Rush thinks the president is setting up a "tax trap" for deficit
hawks. The idea is that if you decry the deficits now, you
will have to accept tax increases in the future in order to
reduce them. And President Obama will sternly expect those
who want the deficit managed to support the tax increases.
There is a problem with this logic that one needs to spot
immediately if you have any hope of scoring well on the LSAT.
What is the hidden assumption here? It is that deficits are
only reduced in one way, which is by increasing taxes.
I'm sure there are at least two ways (and really more) of cutting
deficits. One is by raising taxes. The other one is
by reducing spending.
If we are to believe that taxes must be raised in order to cut
the deficit, then we can joyfully apply this logic to the rest of
our lives. For example, if I overspend and buy too much car
or take too many vacations, I can let my boss know that he will
need to increase my salary to accommodate my new level of debt.
And the places where I will be buying goods can be put on
notice that because I've overspent, they will need to reduce
their profits so that I will still be able to afford my preferred
level of consumption.
The spending spree can be rolled back. And healthcare is a
juicy target. As are many, many new and well-paid
government jobs.
Uh, dude, you forgot the best way to cut deficits and that is by
raising revenues by cutting taxes. It's worked every time we did
it.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 3:12PM
I don't think he's trying to refute supply side economics here.
He's point out this trick that liberals and deficit hawks use,
and if people buy into this notion that it's our job to balance
the budget with higher taxes, we will only be giving politicians
the green light to spend even more.
Travis| 7.5.10 @ 1:49PM
The WSJ had an editorial on this last week as well...the problem
as they point out is that too many Republicans in the
Congress--and this definitely includes the leadership--are all
too happy to sign off on tax increases for nebulous promises on
spending. So not only is B.O. setting them up, these bowling pins
are willing to fall over rather than say, "you raised federal
spending to 25% of GDP, so now cut it back to 21% where its been,
and leave taxes alone." Fact is, we're getting the biggest tax
increase in history thanks to GWB's tax cuts expiring. And it
looks like the Republicans in the House leadership, true to their
Tom Delay heritage, won't fight for their extension.
Purple Lips| 7.2.10 @ 3:24PM
There has never been a situation in modern American history where
raising taxes lowered the defecit (and please do not include
Clinton's 93 tax increases. The defecits didn't really begin to
go down until after 1998 due to the 1998 Capital Gains tax cuts
and reduced defense spending). Congress will spend every nickel
of the new revenues. That is, we will see even higher defecits
and GDP consumption by the federal government.
Teflon93| 7.2.10 @ 4:27PM
The trap is that Obama will seek to cut only one type of
spending--on national defense.
TomSwift| 7.3.10 @ 11:38PM
If he does cut defensive spending, it'll be the first move he's
done that I approve of.
I believe the pentagon is forced to fund $60 billion of projects
it doesn't want? Congress thinks that the military exists to
create jobs, and managing all of these worthless projects
probably hurts readiness.
iamse7en| 7.2.10 @ 4:45PM
Why oh why do you "conservatives" ignore what Ron Paul has been
saying for 30 years?
The other very dangerous way (just as dangerous as raising taxes)
of cutting the deficit is the monetization of debt! I'm not sure
why conservatives ignore monetary policy. The key to keynesianism
is inflating the money supply and you "conservatives" only whine
about fiscal policy.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 4:53PM
Maybe if Ron Paul wasn't a kook that justifies the 9-11 attack,
we'd be more willing to listen to him on other issues. He's a
throwback isolationist, and incredibly naive on threats to our
national security.
As Teflon93 pointed out, His Oneness will go after more taxes.
Obama is not psychologically able to cut taxes.
E-Rock | 7.2.10 @ 9:49PM
First off its called non interventionist on Ron Paul free trade
and freedom of travel is hardly isolationiost. And maybe when it
comes to spending and other issues we should listen to him. By
the way when Reagan and Bush where in office yes they did
increase revenue but still left with high national debt. We need
to cut spending massively and ensure that we pass balanced
budgets which is where I think Paul Ryan from WI will be a big
help in that he understands this issue better than most on the
hill and how to get it done. And hopefully a host of more
conservative republicans this fall will also push for a balanced
budget with of course tax cuts to help the middle class and small
business. O one more note on "threats" to our national security
it seems to me that way to many of them are vastly over blown and
the threats we do face we refuse to deal with.
Long Ben| 7.5.10 @ 3:06AM
As Grover Norquist says , all of these bailouts are merely
pretext for the coming tax increases. As Jim Geraghty wrote in
the recent Spectator the Democrat party is essentially a
resource-extraction machine. These rapacious so and sos , to
raise taxes is all they know , this with their appeal to the the
natural covetousness of fallen humanity is their main source of
political power . In holy writ Moses told the people to choose
for their leaders such men as hated covetousness . On this score
, as a party the Democrats are disqualified .
Stan Redmond| 7.5.10 @ 11:20AM
I already hear it crystal clear. Obama's big ears bouncing left
and right to the teleprompters like an oscillating fan ...
"Now that I've saved the world from the brink of the worst
economic crisis I inherited, we all (taxpayers still lucky enough
to have jobs) have to do whatever it takes to reduce these
unprecidented deficits (pay more taxes). Today I'm introducing
the largest tax cut in the history of the nation. This new
American Yes We Can Value Refund Readjustment program will give
all taxpayers a discount voucher to minimize the refund
readjustments"
Just like Healthcare. Biggest tax cut EVAH.' Enforce a mandate
and fines that add up to thousands of extra dollars per person
per year and then give them a 5% off coupon. What a deal. People
are truly stupid when they believe this man. Try that at a
grocery store. Double your prices but give everyone a 5% coupon
and claim, "The biggest sale ever" Just like Pelosi claiming
eliminating a tax break is not a tax increase. Sure you'll be
paying more taxes but it's only because an unfair tax cut is
expiring. How well is that going to fly when your boss says
"Don't worry about it, it's not like I'm cutting your salary. I'm
just eliminating the raise you earned last year."
Obama, Liberals, and their supporters are so economically
illeterate it is frightening. And we responsible private
TAXPAYING citizens are funding the massive stupidity running this
country and voting for these idiots. When we shrug, there will be
a catastrophic reckoning.
Oldefarte| 7.5.10 @ 3:26PM
Hunter's great article nails the economic/financial solution to
our deficit/debt [ie slash/reduce governmental spending]; and as
Tom Swift indicated, even military spending should be reduced.
Foreign aid is nothing but global WELFARE and should be
eliminated entirely. The whole basis for same is that foreign
countries/governments receiving our financial help will be more
politically friendly/supportive of our global efforts; but when
was the last time anyone remembers [or can cite] an assisted
country actually coming the the political assistance/support of
our country [did any foreign countries even voice sympathy of our
war efforts in the middle east?]. Pakistan was recently given a
boatload of our money and simply funnels same to terrorist
organizations within its borders that are fighting our military
in Afganistan. Back to the subject, the government's budget needs
to be slashed by 10, maybe 15 percent, with wasteful/useless
social welfare programs eliminated/defunded. Democrats will fight
to the death over government expense reduction since the
maintenance of same is where their political power is obtained
[they give away governmental benefits through various programs in
return for the indigents receiving same political votes/support].
California etc is a prime example of Democrats for decades giving
governmental benefits to indigents and now have a $20 million
deficit to contend with. Greece/Europe are on the brink of
financial disaster due to their governments giving away
socialistic government benefits without the taxiation means to
pay for same. The solution for our government's fiscal disaster
is to cut spending substantially [and leave tax levels alone for
the time being], which will lessen government's huge need to
borrow money from banks to pay for deficits/debt and therefore
make available more bank funds for the private business sector to
access and grow our economy!!!!
Ronald Kennedy Bush| 7.2.10 @ 3:08PM
Uh, dude, you forgot the best way to cut deficits and that is by raising revenues by cutting taxes. It's worked every time we did it.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 3:12PM
I don't think he's trying to refute supply side economics here. He's point out this trick that liberals and deficit hawks use, and if people buy into this notion that it's our job to balance the budget with higher taxes, we will only be giving politicians the green light to spend even more.
Travis| 7.5.10 @ 1:49PM
The WSJ had an editorial on this last week as well...the problem as they point out is that too many Republicans in the Congress--and this definitely includes the leadership--are all too happy to sign off on tax increases for nebulous promises on spending. So not only is B.O. setting them up, these bowling pins are willing to fall over rather than say, "you raised federal spending to 25% of GDP, so now cut it back to 21% where its been, and leave taxes alone." Fact is, we're getting the biggest tax increase in history thanks to GWB's tax cuts expiring. And it looks like the Republicans in the House leadership, true to their Tom Delay heritage, won't fight for their extension.
Purple Lips| 7.2.10 @ 3:24PM
There has never been a situation in modern American history where raising taxes lowered the defecit (and please do not include Clinton's 93 tax increases. The defecits didn't really begin to go down until after 1998 due to the 1998 Capital Gains tax cuts and reduced defense spending). Congress will spend every nickel of the new revenues. That is, we will see even higher defecits and GDP consumption by the federal government.
Teflon93| 7.2.10 @ 4:27PM
The trap is that Obama will seek to cut only one type of spending--on national defense.
TomSwift| 7.3.10 @ 11:38PM
If he does cut defensive spending, it'll be the first move he's done that I approve of.
I believe the pentagon is forced to fund $60 billion of projects it doesn't want? Congress thinks that the military exists to create jobs, and managing all of these worthless projects probably hurts readiness.
iamse7en| 7.2.10 @ 4:45PM
Why oh why do you "conservatives" ignore what Ron Paul has been saying for 30 years?
The other very dangerous way (just as dangerous as raising taxes) of cutting the deficit is the monetization of debt! I'm not sure why conservatives ignore monetary policy. The key to keynesianism is inflating the money supply and you "conservatives" only whine about fiscal policy.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 4:53PM
Maybe if Ron Paul wasn't a kook that justifies the 9-11 attack, we'd be more willing to listen to him on other issues. He's a throwback isolationist, and incredibly naive on threats to our national security.
Tish| 7.2.10 @ 7:08PM
As Teflon93 pointed out, His Oneness will go after more taxes. Obama is not psychologically able to cut taxes.
E-Rock | 7.2.10 @ 9:49PM
First off its called non interventionist on Ron Paul free trade and freedom of travel is hardly isolationiost. And maybe when it comes to spending and other issues we should listen to him. By the way when Reagan and Bush where in office yes they did increase revenue but still left with high national debt. We need to cut spending massively and ensure that we pass balanced budgets which is where I think Paul Ryan from WI will be a big help in that he understands this issue better than most on the hill and how to get it done. And hopefully a host of more conservative republicans this fall will also push for a balanced budget with of course tax cuts to help the middle class and small business. O one more note on "threats" to our national security it seems to me that way to many of them are vastly over blown and the threats we do face we refuse to deal with.
Long Ben| 7.5.10 @ 3:06AM
As Grover Norquist says , all of these bailouts are merely pretext for the coming tax increases. As Jim Geraghty wrote in the recent Spectator the Democrat party is essentially a resource-extraction machine. These rapacious so and sos , to raise taxes is all they know , this with their appeal to the the natural covetousness of fallen humanity is their main source of political power . In holy writ Moses told the people to choose for their leaders such men as hated covetousness . On this score , as a party the Democrats are disqualified .
Stan Redmond| 7.5.10 @ 11:20AM
I already hear it crystal clear. Obama's big ears bouncing left and right to the teleprompters like an oscillating fan ...
"Now that I've saved the world from the brink of the worst economic crisis I inherited, we all (taxpayers still lucky enough to have jobs) have to do whatever it takes to reduce these unprecidented deficits (pay more taxes). Today I'm introducing the largest tax cut in the history of the nation. This new American Yes We Can Value Refund Readjustment program will give all taxpayers a discount voucher to minimize the refund readjustments"
Just like Healthcare. Biggest tax cut EVAH.' Enforce a mandate and fines that add up to thousands of extra dollars per person per year and then give them a 5% off coupon. What a deal. People are truly stupid when they believe this man. Try that at a grocery store. Double your prices but give everyone a 5% coupon and claim, "The biggest sale ever" Just like Pelosi claiming eliminating a tax break is not a tax increase. Sure you'll be paying more taxes but it's only because an unfair tax cut is expiring. How well is that going to fly when your boss says "Don't worry about it, it's not like I'm cutting your salary. I'm just eliminating the raise you earned last year."
Obama, Liberals, and their supporters are so economically illeterate it is frightening. And we responsible private TAXPAYING citizens are funding the massive stupidity running this country and voting for these idiots. When we shrug, there will be a catastrophic reckoning.
Oldefarte| 7.5.10 @ 3:26PM
Hunter's great article nails the economic/financial solution to our deficit/debt [ie slash/reduce governmental spending]; and as Tom Swift indicated, even military spending should be reduced. Foreign aid is nothing but global WELFARE and should be eliminated entirely. The whole basis for same is that foreign countries/governments receiving our financial help will be more politically friendly/supportive of our global efforts; but when was the last time anyone remembers [or can cite] an assisted country actually coming the the political assistance/support of our country [did any foreign countries even voice sympathy of our war efforts in the middle east?]. Pakistan was recently given a boatload of our money and simply funnels same to terrorist organizations within its borders that are fighting our military in Afganistan. Back to the subject, the government's budget needs to be slashed by 10, maybe 15 percent, with wasteful/useless social welfare programs eliminated/defunded. Democrats will fight to the death over government expense reduction since the maintenance of same is where their political power is obtained [they give away governmental benefits through various programs in return for the indigents receiving same political votes/support]. California etc is a prime example of Democrats for decades giving governmental benefits to indigents and now have a $20 million deficit to contend with. Greece/Europe are on the brink of financial disaster due to their governments giving away socialistic government benefits without the taxiation means to pay for same. The solution for our government's fiscal disaster is to cut spending substantially [and leave tax levels alone for the time being], which will lessen government's huge need to borrow money from banks to pay for deficits/debt and therefore make available more bank funds for the private business sector to access and grow our economy!!!!