Since we've been talking about the McCain/Hayworth race in the
past few days, I decided to do a little research. I've been
surprised all along, frankly, that McCain has taken the glvoes
off so heavily and almost viciously against Hayworth even though
McCain has been leading in all the polls. This is the same McCain
who repeatedly nixed advice that he get tough on Obama on
multiple fronts, instead insisting on running an "honorable"
(i.e., "pitifully losing") campaign. (Not that one need give up
honor in order to get tough; one can do both at the same time.)
Anyway, now, finally, Hayworth is
returning fire against McCain, and it is TOUGH STUFF. It
involves a Florida bigwig recently convicted of a Ponzi scheme.
Now, it is utterly unfair to nail a candidate with guilt by
association with somebody who later was convicted of something
that had nothing to do, directly with the candidate. That, by the
way, is what McCain has done, quite dishonorably, against
Hayworth. But in Hayworth's return of fire, the key distinction
is this: McCain's folks claim McCain couldn't even pick the
now-felon out of a lineup. The video within the link above shows
that to be absurd. You might as a candidate forget somebody who
introduced you once. You don't forget somebody who introduced you
at two events, at great length, including one event at the guy's
mansion, while standing there with Gov. Charlie Crist and joking
about White House jobs.
Hayworth suggests that McCain make it right by giving back money
donated to his campaign by the felon. No response from the man of
honor, McCain. Maybe McCain is trying to figure out another way
to blame conservative good guy Chris Cox for this new bit of
trouble Johnny Mac finds himself in.....
Meanwhile, to defend my earlier characterization of Hayworth as a
true conservative, here is The American Thinker's
"Tale of the Tape," by Randall Hoven. Hayworth's lifetime
American Conservative Rating is 97.56. Case closed. But as Haven
points out, Hayworth DESTROYS McCain on every other scale of
conservatism as well. And even (this isn't from Hoven, but
available with other research) on porky stuff, for which McCain
has criticized Hayworth, Hayworth has a higher rating from
Citizens Against Government Waste than McCain does.
The more I think about NRO's endorsement, the more frustrated and
baffled I become.....
"I've been surprised that McCain has taken the gloves off so
heavily and almost viciously against Hayworth"
and yet, as you note, he left his gloves in the dressing room in
his match against Obama. I really don't see how anyone can be
surprised, it's the same-old, same-old John McCain. It's "The
Maverick" riding in on "The Straight Talk Express" attacking
everything that he thinks might represent Conservatism. Hayworth
may, or may not, be a Conservative but McCain clearly thinks that
Hayworth is ideologically opposed to everything that John McCain
believes, so he'll fight to prevent a Hayworth election. Such was
not the case with his "good friend Barack"...
Whatever you may think about Hayworth, McCain is telling you
who/what he thinks Hayworth is - a Conservative. Of course, one
must also factor in that McCain actually has something to lose in
this election. The fate of the country rested on the last
election but this time it's important that McCain win because if
he doesn't he goes off into the sunset.
SoCon| 7.2.10 @ 10:38AM
Unfortunately for us, there are a lot of "mavericks" in our
party. It explains a lot.
J.C.Eaton| 7.2.10 @ 11:14AM
Curly: You have your rifle at battle-sight ZERO. Well done, sir.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 11:51AM
McCain does seem to be more critical of his Republican opponents
in primaries than he was of Obama.
I saw McCain speak at Clemson University during 2000, and all he
talked about was his POW experience and campaign finance reform,
and his jihad on campaign finance reform is a transparent attempt
to to "restore" his image as a member of the Keating 5.
Tim*| 7.2.10 @ 11:58AM
McCain is a Serial Traitor to Conservatism.
McCain-Feingold , McCain-Kennedy , McCain-Lieberman , Gang of 14
, Opposing The 2001 & 2003 Tax Cuts , TARP .
Teflon93| 7.2.10 @ 11:59AM
Many conservatives have put up with McCain because of his
incredible heroism as a Vietnam POW.
We similarly put up with Bob Dole because of his WWII heroism.
Conservatives like heroes.
Unfortunately, there is nothing sadder or more dangerous than
someone who has turned their youthful heroics to the acquisition
of power and aggrandizement, as McCain has done.
His sense of entitlement is unbounded and his judgment is
terrible.
A little known fact of military life is that few POWs went on to
lengthy command careers, despite the obvious goodwill from
soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines toward men who endured so
much for God and country. Such horrific experiences leave scars
and many times these scars limit leadership potential. How could
they not? Rare is the man who can endure such abuse and not be
profoundly marked by it.
McCain has been so marked and not for the good.
I respect the John McCain who was so stalwart in his solidarity
with his fellow prisoners that he wouldn't take parole though
terribly wounded and endured years of torture as a result. I
cannot conceive---though having been through SERE school
myself---of the will it took to survive such brutality.
John McCain the senator, however, is nothing more than the usual
back-stabbing RINO who will do anything to hang onto political
power.
It's time for him to go before he does any more dishonor to the
memory of John McCain the courageous POW.
While I will not question his service during Vietnam. Please look
at Sydney Schanberg's article and read a possibility that his
actions after service to his country may not have been so
honorable.
I think a closer look at McCain's record as a POW is in order.
From what is available (in the public record) it appears to me
that McCain's "courage" was no more "incredible" than any other
POW's. In fact, McCain admitted in his book that he received
lenient treatment compared to other POW's. The Sydney Schanberg
article and Hendon's book, "An enormous crime", give a much
different picture of this , so-called Hero.
Monty3/5| 7.5.10 @ 12:43AM
I think the whole issue of McCain's "incredible courage" as a POW
is one of carefully constructed fiction. And, while I will not
question his service as an active aviator, his time as a POW is
open to question. Much of what I've read of McCain's time as a
POW is obviously untrue. I am inclined to believe that much of
McCain's outrageous behaviour/temper is a result of a deep seated
guilt. He really isn't the hero he's been made out to be. He
knows it....and so do I.
VietnamVeteranShouldSpeak| 7.2.10 @ 12:55PM
Hopefully, when there is any reference re: Vietnam and US
Military as prisoners: non dare repeat the media. ONLY former
prisoners knowing and having direct information should address
the issue.
Our nation has become one of PROPRAGANDA or simply venting rather
than having direct information as experienced withe the focus or
subject at hand...then it is no wonder the public begins to
believe their own fantasies...
Monty 3/5| 7.5.10 @ 12:51AM
Can you really think that ONLY those with direct experience as a
Vietnam POW have the right to address the issue of POW's? I
served two tours with the 5th Marines(1967-69). I was NOT a POW
but, I certainly have the right to comment on the subject. Again,
Schanberg and Hendon..do a little reading and reconsider your
position. There is nothing ficticious about abandoned US POW's.
Oldefarte| 7.2.10 @ 1:08PM
Even though I voted for McCain, he lost to Obama because he
attempted the ROPE-A-DOPE routine in fighting by the Queensbury
Rules [as stated above] and this cost him [and us] the election.
If he had gone after Obama [as Palin wanted to do but was
overruled], McCain would now be president instead of THE CHOSEN
ONE. In this senatorial contest, I think that it is simply time
for McCain to hang up his political spurs. He's the classical
example of a congressman who has gotten too comfortable in
Washington DC and compromised his principles too many times. It's
time for him to retire. He is an honorable man, a distinguished
war hero,etc but he has simply lost his will to fight the good
fight!!!!!
Curly Smith| 7.2.10 @ 10:34AM
"I've been surprised that McCain has taken the gloves off so heavily and almost viciously against Hayworth"
and yet, as you note, he left his gloves in the dressing room in his match against Obama. I really don't see how anyone can be surprised, it's the same-old, same-old John McCain. It's "The Maverick" riding in on "The Straight Talk Express" attacking everything that he thinks might represent Conservatism. Hayworth may, or may not, be a Conservative but McCain clearly thinks that Hayworth is ideologically opposed to everything that John McCain believes, so he'll fight to prevent a Hayworth election. Such was not the case with his "good friend Barack"...
Whatever you may think about Hayworth, McCain is telling you who/what he thinks Hayworth is - a Conservative. Of course, one must also factor in that McCain actually has something to lose in this election. The fate of the country rested on the last election but this time it's important that McCain win because if he doesn't he goes off into the sunset.
SoCon| 7.2.10 @ 10:38AM
Unfortunately for us, there are a lot of "mavericks" in our party. It explains a lot.
J.C.Eaton| 7.2.10 @ 11:14AM
Curly: You have your rifle at battle-sight ZERO. Well done, sir.
Matt X| 7.2.10 @ 11:51AM
McCain does seem to be more critical of his Republican opponents in primaries than he was of Obama.
I saw McCain speak at Clemson University during 2000, and all he talked about was his POW experience and campaign finance reform, and his jihad on campaign finance reform is a transparent attempt to to "restore" his image as a member of the Keating 5.
Tim*| 7.2.10 @ 11:58AM
McCain is a Serial Traitor to Conservatism.
McCain-Feingold , McCain-Kennedy , McCain-Lieberman , Gang of 14 , Opposing The 2001 & 2003 Tax Cuts , TARP .
Teflon93| 7.2.10 @ 11:59AM
Many conservatives have put up with McCain because of his incredible heroism as a Vietnam POW.
We similarly put up with Bob Dole because of his WWII heroism.
Conservatives like heroes.
Unfortunately, there is nothing sadder or more dangerous than someone who has turned their youthful heroics to the acquisition of power and aggrandizement, as McCain has done.
His sense of entitlement is unbounded and his judgment is terrible.
A little known fact of military life is that few POWs went on to lengthy command careers, despite the obvious goodwill from soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines toward men who endured so much for God and country. Such horrific experiences leave scars and many times these scars limit leadership potential. How could they not? Rare is the man who can endure such abuse and not be profoundly marked by it.
McCain has been so marked and not for the good.
I respect the John McCain who was so stalwart in his solidarity with his fellow prisoners that he wouldn't take parole though terribly wounded and endured years of torture as a result. I cannot conceive---though having been through SERE school myself---of the will it took to survive such brutality.
John McCain the senator, however, is nothing more than the usual back-stabbing RINO who will do anything to hang onto political power.
It's time for him to go before he does any more dishonor to the memory of John McCain the courageous POW.
Warrior| 7.2.10 @ 1:42PM
While I will not question his service during Vietnam. Please look at Sydney Schanberg's article and read a possibility that his actions after service to his country may not have been so honorable.
http://amconmag.com/article/2010/jul/01/00010/
monty3/5| 7.5.10 @ 12:33AM
I think a closer look at McCain's record as a POW is in order. From what is available (in the public record) it appears to me that McCain's "courage" was no more "incredible" than any other POW's. In fact, McCain admitted in his book that he received lenient treatment compared to other POW's. The Sydney Schanberg article and Hendon's book, "An enormous crime", give a much different picture of this , so-called Hero.
Monty3/5| 7.5.10 @ 12:43AM
I think the whole issue of McCain's "incredible courage" as a POW is one of carefully constructed fiction. And, while I will not question his service as an active aviator, his time as a POW is open to question. Much of what I've read of McCain's time as a POW is obviously untrue. I am inclined to believe that much of McCain's outrageous behaviour/temper is a result of a deep seated guilt. He really isn't the hero he's been made out to be. He knows it....and so do I.
VietnamVeteranShouldSpeak| 7.2.10 @ 12:55PM
Hopefully, when there is any reference re: Vietnam and US Military as prisoners: non dare repeat the media. ONLY former prisoners knowing and having direct information should address the issue.
Our nation has become one of PROPRAGANDA or simply venting rather than having direct information as experienced withe the focus or subject at hand...then it is no wonder the public begins to believe their own fantasies...
Monty 3/5| 7.5.10 @ 12:51AM
Can you really think that ONLY those with direct experience as a Vietnam POW have the right to address the issue of POW's? I served two tours with the 5th Marines(1967-69). I was NOT a POW but, I certainly have the right to comment on the subject. Again, Schanberg and Hendon..do a little reading and reconsider your position. There is nothing ficticious about abandoned US POW's.
Oldefarte| 7.2.10 @ 1:08PM
Even though I voted for McCain, he lost to Obama because he attempted the ROPE-A-DOPE routine in fighting by the Queensbury Rules [as stated above] and this cost him [and us] the election. If he had gone after Obama [as Palin wanted to do but was overruled], McCain would now be president instead of THE CHOSEN ONE. In this senatorial contest, I think that it is simply time for McCain to hang up his political spurs. He's the classical example of a congressman who has gotten too comfortable in Washington DC and compromised his principles too many times. It's time for him to retire. He is an honorable man, a distinguished war hero,etc but he has simply lost his will to fight the good fight!!!!!
Margie| 7.2.10 @ 1:46PM
I'm really not liking Johnny Mac these days.
dvd to ipad mac| 7.6.10 @ 3:40AM
ah ha
ugg| 8.18.10 @ 3:32AM
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