Conservative blogger Pamela Geller says she has been threatened with discontinuation of her online payment account by PayPal, the most widely used service of its kind.
On her popular Web site, Atlas Shrugs, Geller posted the text of an e-mail notice she received Saturday morning from PayPal’s Acceptable Use Policy Department.
“[A]fter a recent review of your account, it has been determined that you are currently in violation of PayPal’s Acceptable Use Policy,” the PayPal e-mail said. “Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments for items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance or the financial exploitation of a crime.”
Geller said similar “acceptable use” violation notices were also sent by PayPal to two organizations she helped establish, the Freedom Defense Initiative (FDI) and Stop Islamicization of America (SIOA).
PayPal is a division of the online market eBay, whose former CEO Meg Whitman recently won the Republican gubernatorial nomination in California
Geller helped organize a major protest against the “Ground Zero Mosque” in New York City. The shutdown notices from PayPal, Geller said in a telephone interview Saturday, came after she received widespread media attention and sponsored an advertising campaign that offered support to former Muslims threatened for renouncing the faith. Her activism is funded almost entirely by small online contributions from readers.
An Associated Press article about Geller last month quoted Faiza Ali, of the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who accused Geller of a “long-standing history of anti-Muslim bigotry.” Geller said Saturday she is considering pursuing legal action against PayPal’s attempt to attach a “hate” label to her site.
“What do they expect me to do, stop blogging about jihad?” said Geller, whose blog emphasizes national security issues, Mideast policy and the War on Terror. “These are strange times. And they’re going to get stranger still.”
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paul | 6.12.10 @ 10:10PM
Ask paypal how Code Pink can accept donations through paypal. If thats not a hate organization i don't know what is.
Chris| 6.13.10 @ 2:10AM
Right on! Paypal will NEVER get my business they are verboten in my family!
They are complete and total CRAP!
Rita| 6.20.10 @ 7:14AM
You are 100% correct, Chris. I also tell everyone to beware and avoid the sneaky ways of Paypal, as I do.
BrianS| 6.13.10 @ 9:31PM
Code Pink hates war!
Nate| 6.21.10 @ 4:24PM
Code Pink supports terrorists!
Christine| 6.14.10 @ 10:23PM
I guess you "don't know what is"
Annie Oakley| 6.12.10 @ 10:26PM
Tell Ms. Geller to call Floyd Abrams.
Jeff| 6.12.10 @ 10:33PM
Serves her right, she's full of hate and anger. If she is so enraged by Muslims or Islam, that's her personal business, but to accept money for hateful purposes and utilizing Paypal, that's unacceptable.
Paypal should ban this hate monger
rrpjr| 6.12.10 @ 10:52PM
You're unworthy of freedom.
SteveP| 6.12.10 @ 11:13PM
It's fools like you that make the spread of the hate and rage filled death cult possible. Dhimmitude won't save you.
jgreene| 6.13.10 @ 12:09AM
Jeffie,
I suppose you have a right to your opinion but the mentioned website is just that a website expressing opinions and FACTS about Islam, jihadists and Muslim lies.
I hope she does sue PayPal because she will win.
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 12:34AM
jgreene:
I admire Paypal for their rightful desision to drop this hate monger and racist. You are a loser and you will lose, Insha-Allah. How many Muslim websites are out there talking about Christian lies and Jewish lies? First of all there are no lies in Islam - Islam may not be your faith but its not based on lies. The basic tenet of Islam is to respect all religions. I have respect for all religions, period.
jorgxmckie| 6.13.10 @ 12:42AM
Hossain: and you are an ignoramus. I sincerely hope you don't reside in the US, because you quite obviously don't understand Free Speech, the rule of law, separation of religion and government, nor American culture in general.
I hope that all those jihadi websites not only get their Paypal privileges revoked but that they get investigated by the proper authorities for their incitation to violence.
And any culture that would support "honor killings" is despicable.
Ken Mitchell| 6.13.10 @ 12:58AM
Hoss, You know you're wrong; Islam - or at least, the Wahhabi version that's causing all the ruckus - has ZERO toleration of other faiths. So any claim that Islam - Wahhabi Islam - is a religion of peace and tolerance is a lie.
TheMadKing| 6.13.10 @ 1:38AM
First you talk about Christian and Jewish lies, then you talk about how you respect all religions. Do you have any idea how f*cked that reads? I agree with you one point, with one exception. There is only one lie in Islam: that it's a religion of peace. Wherever Islam rules (with very few exceptions), theocratic terror and death rule also. Iran. Yemen. Syria. Saudi Arabia. Lebanon. Libya. Even Iraq, where Shiite death squads hunt down and kill queers. Where am I lying, Hossein? Call it hate if you like, because I do hate. I hate Islamists and their stooges like you with every fiber of my being. If Islam disappeared overnight, this world would be in a state of bliss and peace tomorrow morning!
Todd J| 6.13.10 @ 1:55AM
Islam is lies, my friend, and Allah is Satan. Only the God of Christianity and Judaism is the true God.
ValleyDad| 6.13.10 @ 2:52AM
Jgreene- tell that to the Christians being expelled from Morocco on two hours notice for doing charitable works. They are guilty of potentially corrupting Islam there by being kind to the citizens of Morocco. Some have lived there peacefully for 10 years providing services to the community with no proselytizing at all. They're not even allowed to take their own possessions when kicked out of the country. Guess who gets that stuff? Right, the local Islamic officials. Yet they are summarily expelled with no due process or recourse in violation of treaties that Morocco has signed. Just the first step towards banning all other religion in Morocco except Islam. Do your homework before you make unsupportable statements. Look at what Islam is doing in Indonesia, the Phillipines, Malaysia and so on. The radicals are tainting the rest of them because the rest of them do nothing to stop them. Too many think that it's not their business or they are afraid to speak out and have themselves or their family wind up dead like the 7 year old boy in Afghanistan. You sound like the Germans dismissing the atrocities of the Nazis as nothing to worry about, only an aberration. Tell it to Nick Berg's family. Remember him, beheaded on live video in Iraq? Daniel Pearl? and on and on. All in the name of the "religion of peace". We need to hear from the silent Muslims who live in fear of retaliation. Until they love their freedom more than they fear the tyrants, this will continue.
David Berne| 6.13.10 @ 11:00AM
and if her site were anti-Israel, you'd all be for her freedoms? Or you'd be crying and screaming anti-semitism?
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 12:57PM
Some of us actually do complain loudly about Judaism and Israel, but outside of idiotic ultra-Orthodox Judaism, there is nothing like the woman-enslavement of Islam - and there aren't 1.5 billion Orthodox Jews running around trying to oppress people in female bodies. So, it's just not the same. In the meantime, your stupid Islamist-appeasing remarks have undoubtedly helped to encourage more woman-enslavement.
ISLAM IS EVIL, PERIOD. It is a cult devised by barbarous MEN for the specific purpose of subjugating women as much as possible. Islam needs to go before it destroys true human civilization and enslaves us all.
Bear1909| 6.13.10 @ 5:44AM
And the dogma that justifies "teqiya" is, what, Catholic? You moron.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 11:47AM
Hossain,
No Islam does not respect all religions, or even any religion. One of the very first acts of Mohammed was to trespass in the shrines of the Idolators to berate them on how their religion was false and to elevate a single one of their dieties, Allah, above the others.
The Quran is one long diatribe against Idolators, Jews, Christians, and non-believers. Even the supposedly tolerant passages when taken in context are obviously intolerant twists on the teachings of other religions.
Islam has a long history of persecution of those of other religions and there are hundreds of Mosques built on, or co-opted from the shrines of other religions. If a religion respects another it doesn't destroy their temples, and build their own upon the ruins. It doesn't teach in it's most holy of books not to befriend Jews and Christians. It doesn't advocate the slaughter of Idolators. It doesn't claim the followers of other religions were converted to apes and pigs. It doesn't claim it's believers are ordained to rule over the believers of other religions.
You are an ignoramus, an idiot, a liar, or any combination of those. You probably have not even read the Qur'an for youself and rely on some lying Imam to do it for you. Be forewarned that it is your responsibility to know exactly what the book contains and you share responsibility with those who act on it's evil contents when you make claims that it contains no lies, when in fact it is based on numerous lies.
GF| 6.13.10 @ 12:43PM
Hossain Have some bacon and I offer you my left hand Ha!!!!
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 1:00PM
Hossain, do you even have a clue about the demented cult of enslavement and death that you follow? Any clue at all? Or are you completely oblivious and ignorant, like so many mainstream Muslims who don't use their brains to consider what they are following?
Please read this site and grow a conscience:
http://thereligionofpeace.com
Martin K| 6.13.10 @ 2:26PM
Islam can show its tolerance toward other religions when it allows Christian Churches, Buddhist Temples etc.etc. to be build in Mecca.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 2:38PM
Martin,
Sorry, Allah says no non-Muslims in Mecca, and according to the majority no non-Muslim temples are allowed on the Saudi Peninsula. Otherwise, the Muslims would be welcoming, because you see it isn't Muslims or Islam, that are intolerant, not they just follow Allah's wishes, but Allah who is the Hitler in the sky. Take that into account and you see just how Islam is and can be.
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 2:56PM
Tell that to the Hindus and Christians in Pakistan, the Christians in Nigeria, the Catholics in the Phillipines, etc. You are clearly delusional. Islam CLEARLY promotes anti-semitism and hatred of Christians and Hindus. In Muhammad's own words, no less.
Atheist Joe from Toronto| 6.13.10 @ 5:35PM
Insha-allah insha-allah blah blah blah
1400 years on and your all-capable allah has only 'willed' or 'pre-ordained' for one-fifth of the world's population to become muslims?
Either allah is dragging his heels and has a late-in-the-game surge planned, or muslims have been pre-ordained to be the 'losers'??
Islamic Doctrine = cheesecloth
Full of holes and can't begin to hold water!
JimE| 6.14.10 @ 12:37AM
Islam is nothing but a cult of lies.
gsw| 6.14.10 @ 4:05AM
The principle of Al-Takeyya:
*War is deception.
*The necessities justify the forbidden.
*If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.
Surah 3: 28 ;
Of course Islam is based on lies & deceit, Mohammed himself told his followers to lie to non-muslims in order to beat them in battle.
You are just following your religion in lying to us all here, just do not be surprised that we do not believe you.
We too have read the book!
Fulla Shit| 6.14.10 @ 7:19AM
you are a liar and full of shit.
M Rob| 6.14.10 @ 10:45AM
You are nothing but a moronic arslifter - get out of the 7th century you idiot.
Steve Golay | 6.14.10 @ 4:40PM
Dear Hossain,
So you respect all religions. That's nice to know. Yet you respect an open conversation about yours? One where the 'facts' of Islam's history and dogmas are laid out, dissected, and debated? Or does respect, for you - for Islam - mean that no discussion is permitted regarding Islam unless it is filtered through Islam's 'yes' and 'no'. For instance, I do not not believe that Allah and the God of Jews and Christians are one and the same. I do not believe that Islam, in fact, is a true monothestic religion. I do not believe that the Quran is without error (in fact, textual analysis shows it is a composite of Jewish, Christian and pagan sources). I do not believe that Muhammad is worthy of emmulation - regarding morals, politics, or as an mediator before God - in short, he did not recieve a divine word.
I could go on. Now what should happen, sir? Should I be penalized for holding such convictions? Should the state intervene and compel me to change those convictions? Should I be prevented from broadcasting my points of view? Should I, somehow, obtain permission from Islam to speak my mind on these issues?
Anyway, please exegete your meaning of 'respect' regarding my beliefs and my right, as a free citizen, to expressed them and - more importantly - to encourage others to hold the same?
Alexodia| 6.14.10 @ 7:01PM
Well I hope she sue's too. As a business they may interpret her site as they wish. If she were being descriminated against because she is a minority is totally different from the law than if paypal decides they dont want to support her "Service" any more. Its called Free Market. I assumed you all would know what that means.
PAYPAL may refuse to do business with anyone it wishes so long as the reason is not part of the various civil rights and disability act rights. Thought you repugs understood free market. Cant have it both ways!
Go PayPal Expressing your Rights.
Boo repugs acting like liberals.
Ohioan| 6.14.10 @ 8:59PM
I cannot imagine what grounds she would have for a suit. She violated the policy under which she entered into an agreement with them. It's not like the woman doesn't appreciate the limits of free speech. She censors posts on her site if she disagrees with them. Which would be her right--just like it is the right of PayPal to choose not to do business with her.
Richard| 6.13.10 @ 12:21AM
Jeff: I'm wondering how you can reach the keyboard with your head in that position. Dipsh*t.
SDN| 6.13.10 @ 6:30AM
He manages because Jeff's a holder of the "Plexiglass Bellybutton Award", with clusters.
Chris Watson | 6.13.10 @ 12:30AM
I agree with Jeff. PayPal have their image to protect and are entitled to block sites that could harm that. 'Stop the Islamicisation of America' certainly has a strong 'hatey' ring to it.
Here's an experiment. Just try swapping Islamic for Jewish when you're defending things like this, and see of you still like how it sounds.
Something like 'Rid America of Jewish influence'... You don't find that unacceptably racist? Why is it different for Islam?
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 12:40AM
Chris:
I admire your honesty, fairness and a just example. You are my hero today. May Allah bless you in this world and in the hereafter for defending the due right of "Islam" as a religion. I wish you a long prosperous life.
May fairness and justice be with you always!!!
jorgxmckie| 6.13.10 @ 12:44AM
@Hossain: I admire your obdurate ignorance. It is immovable. You are my dipstick of the day.
May you receive your just reward in any afterlife that exists. It will probably consist of eternal punishment, though.
jorgxmckie| 6.13.10 @ 12:44AM
@Hossain: I admire your obdurate ignorance. It is immovable. You are my dipstick of the day.
May you receive your just reward in any afterlife that exists. It will probably consist of eternal punishment, though.
Chris Watson | 6.13.10 @ 1:42AM
Thank you Hossain.
Please don't be upset by the opinions of the people on this site. It's true there are many people in America (and Israel, of course) who hate all those different from themselves and have a real lust for war, killing and destruction; but look at the American president! Obviously such hateful people are in a minority, even in America.
And the rest of the West is very different from America! Far fewer people again are motivated by racism and war-lust. There's just a very loud, angry - but tiny - minority, who express themselves on the internet. They have no influence and they mean nothing.
Incidentally, I had a number of Arab (Christian and Islamic) friends when I lived in Australia; they were some of the nicest, kindest people I knew there.
Peace. :-)
Mark M.| 6.13.10 @ 2:14AM
Yes, well, since that "tiny minority" is the problem, I'm sure Chris has a "solution" for that. Read between the lines, (Israel is filled with racist warmongers, really?) and you can pretty much tell that Chris is either a closet Neo-Nazi, or it's modern equivalent, a deluded pro terrorist radical from ANSWER. Because you know, murderous 7th century wife beating, child molesting goat f*ckers are some of the "kindest, nicest, warmest human beings I've ever known"
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:12PM
Where did Chris claim that Israel is filled with racist warmongers? If he believes that he too is a complete ignoramus who doesn't know a lick about the history of the middle east, and Europe.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:09PM
Chris Watson,
You are so full of yourself and a useful idiot to boot. We absolutely don't hate those different from ourselves. I'm an atheist and I have Jewish and Christian friends. I also have friends of all races. Did you ever notice that we - the Christians, the Jews, non-believers, Hindus, Buddhists are all getting along in the US.
The same is not true in the Islamic countries. For example, my Jews barber immigrated from the supposedly tolerant country of Turkey because to quote him "the Muslims have gone crazy". He talked about childhood friends and people he had personally found jobs here in America conspiring to murder him, his family, americans, and other non-Muslims.
The fact that Christians and Jews can get along while Muslims are not supposed to by religious edict was documented and advocated in the 7th century by Muhammed in the Qur'an:
Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Of course, according to Muhammad, the liar, this was not him making some bigoted claim, but something penned directly by Allah at the beginning of history.
I have several Muslim friends myself and they are the nicest and kindest people you'd like to meet too until you scratch the surface and ask some pointed questions. I've been morally shocked by the opinions of every single Muslim I have ever had any in depth philosophical discussions with.
For example the nicest one I know was asked about immigration, "You've moved here and freely get to express your beliefs as you are doing not with me. Should I be able to immigrate to Pakistan and freely express my opinions? You've indicated I would probably be killed, so would my killers be morally in the right to do so?"
The answer was no I had no right to move to Pakistan, and yes they would be perfectly justified in murdering me.
I think I should be free to have my opinions of a man who was an obvious thief, murderer, torturer, trespasser, religious bigot, anti-art bigot, sexual predator, religious pretender, pedophile, mis-user of charity and charitable causes, mass murderer, rapist, slaver, and war monger.
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 12:54PM
Oh please, shut up with the Muslim arse-kissing. You do realize you are encouraging imbeciles who follow a despicable cult of death that enslaves women? And you're cool with that? As a woman, I DETEST ISLAM WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING. I don't want this disgusting, evil cult of woman-enslavement anywhere near me or my children. If you can't understand that fact, you are demented and need to be quarantined a psych ward.
ISLAM NEEDS TO BE UTTERLY AND TOTALLY DESTROYED. Then its victims/slaves can be freed. Stop supporting this filthy misogynistic cult of violence, please.
gsw| 6.14.10 @ 4:20AM
Ata girl, I am 100% in agreement!
DR| 6.13.10 @ 4:28PM
Cris and Hossain:
Yes, replace Islam with Jew or Christian and it is still wrong. However the point is that Paypal probably has no problem with those sites. But I also support FREE SPEECH. Do I have to like it? No, I just don't listen to it or read it. Just because I do not like to hear something does not give me the right to silence it, in any way. Be it silenced through intimidation, banishment or DEATH. Hossain, I know many peaceful Muslims, and I respect them, they also abhor the senseless and brutal murders committed in the name of Islam. But you cannot ignore the passages in that some would and do take as proclaiming war against all who do not believe in Mohammad's teachings. It has come to light that even the Koran has gone through rewrites over the ages, so even the Koran is not the "uncorrupted" word of Allah as "devote" Muslims would have us all to believe.
Also consider Afghanistan... all the HISTORY lost when the Taliban (Islamic radicals) took over. It does not matter to me what, when, where or who, produced the art, tests, whatever... that was something of great import to HUMANITY'S past and to destroy something, anything like that is inexcusable to me. Has it happened at the hands of Jews and Christians? Yeah the Crusades lend credence to that idea, but recall Christians also persecuted the Jews during that time as well. Also do not forget the prior to the Crusades, the Muslims where in Spain (the Moors, anyone?) And from what I recall the Moorish invasion of Spain was not "peaceful" either.
M Rob| 6.14.10 @ 11:06AM
Chris - Islam isn't a race it is a hateful, mysoginistic political ideology masquerading as a religion. Therefore calling opponents of Islam racist is rather disengenuous.
Martin K. | 6.13.10 @ 2:52PM
How can critic about Islam be “racism” since Islam is not a human race but a religion?
A religion if the followers would not face death when leaving it? I'm posting from Vienna/Austria and I am absolutely fed up with the “islamicization” of my city. It is not that Islam culture is “enriching” our culture, it is replacing it. Austria and Germany have a long history of great sausages and most of the ingredients is PORK meat. We had for decadess small Shops on the streets, where one could buy several variants of sausages, but now 9 out of 10 switched to islamic food. Since Pork meat can't be served on the same premise the shop-keepers had to drop it. Or Pork meat in public kindergarden? Forget it. Thanks to “Muslimas” a relative of mine can't go swimming on a certain day during the week, because it is now Muslim-Night . They demanded that no Man can be in the Swimingpool at that time. Never mind the fact that most of them wear the silly burkinni!
Again Islam is NOT enriching our culture but REPLACING large portions of it.
Anybody who supports islam is for the replacement of our culture with a backward religion/culture way of life, which should have got rid of centuries ago. Just my 2 ¢!
Belasarius| 6.13.10 @ 1:07AM
I tried it. It made no sense. The Jewish religion doesn't preach the subjugation of every other people on earth. They aren't blowing up airplanes and setting off suicide bombs on airplanes. They look pretty much like I imagine anybody would who is trying not to be exterminated.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:26AM
No, I wouldn't find it racist. I find it laughable because the Jews aren't going around murdering everyone who chooses not to convert to Judaism. They aren't slitting the throats of people who draw pictures of Moses. They aren't flying airplanes into skyscrapers. They aren't trying to intimidate the world into accepting Mosaic Law.
Sorry, your argument is invalid.
TheMadKing| 6.13.10 @ 1:42AM
Chris, when Revolution Muslim is a PayPal customer in good standing while Atlas Shrugs is declared a hate site, and we can't even mention the word Islamist to describe our jihadist enemies as they themselves do out of lemming-like PC, there you are seeing the Islamicization of America. Wake up!
wolf t.| 6.13.10 @ 2:44AM
Rest assured that were you to swap Jew for Muslim it would not be considered hate speech by Paypal.
phil| 6.13.10 @ 9:49AM
Why is islam different?
Islam is a death cult with no positive characteristics.
Savage is right, leftism is a mental disorder.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 11:49AM
How about you swap Islamic for Nazi and you'd get a much more accurate analogy. I'm all for stopping the Nazification of America.
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 2:59PM
The difference is that Islamic theology CLEARLY promotes bigotry and hatred toward non-Muslims. Go read the the "Life of Muhammad" and you'll see what rasicst bogot he was. By the way, the book was written by a Muslim.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 6:27PM
Just bought the book on Amazon with two click. Look forward to reading it.
gsw| 6.14.10 @ 4:11AM
Here's another experiment:
Just try swapping Islamic for communist, nazi, caliphate or fascist.
Muslims may continue in their religion - even in America - however, the Islamisation mentioned here is the POLITICAL SYSTEM used in islamic countries all over the world.
Legal segregation of rights according to gender and religious affiliation is against the spirit of America.
This is not hate speech - this is just the truth.
Jeff Perren | 6.14.10 @ 12:04PM
"Why is it different for Islam?"
Because it is not Judaism that is the driving force behind the jihad against America and many other parts of the world. Islam is.
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 12:43AM
Jeff:
Cudos to you for speaking the truth. May fariness and justice be with you always. Allah bless!
Mark M.| 6.13.10 @ 2:20AM
Hossain,
Allah is the fictional delusion of a child raping warlord you call a prophet. Your people are the most ignorant, savage, teeth falling out of your head sorry excuses for humanity with the possible exception of sub-Saharan Africa, where they rape babies to cure their AIDs, and kill albinos because they think it's good luck. See that's called FREEDOM Hoss, and it is what makes us better than a voluntary slave like you.
Jeff Sux| 6.13.10 @ 12:45AM
LOL @ fag
XXYYY| 6.13.10 @ 2:41AM
I think she'll sue Paypal and win a couple of million ... Jeffie, I'm afraid you're a real loser.
TC@LeatherPenguin | 6.13.10 @ 5:59AM
I've heard it is told you sex it up when you see
an unattended goat.
Miguel| 6.13.10 @ 2:16PM
The face of worldwide terrorism today is almost exclusively muslim. And the overwhelming majority of murdered muslims are murdered by other muslims, usually just because they are a different denomination of islam. That is an indisputable fact.
Mohammed| 6.13.10 @ 2:21PM
Jeff, you are an idiot. Muslims are dangerous, savages, and need to be banned from all civilized societies.
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 2:23PM
Morons like you never cease to amaze me. She comes from a country literally torn apart by Islamic violence and when she has the back bone to speak out about you call her "full of hate and anger"? Moral cowards like you disgust me.
CHOI| 6.14.10 @ 1:20AM
JEFF IS SCARED ____HITLESSof the TRUTHS PAMELA GELLER POSTS.
It's Jeff who is a HATEMONGER, a LEFT-WING JIHADI ENABLING ANTI-AMERICAN HATEMONGER.
Hal| 6.14.10 @ 5:30AM
@ Jeff:
Your reply is indicitive of someone who is completely ignorant of Islamic history and the fact that since it's inception over 1400 years ago, some 250 million people have be slaughtered world-wide in the name of ISLAM!
Mick J| 6.14.10 @ 1:06PM
Jeff...its prayer time. Ask allah for some brains. You probably believe the Crusades were about killing Muslims. Your right! BECAUSE THE MUSLIMS WERE SLAUGHTERING CHRISTAINS!! AND STILL ARE.
Grimcargo| 6.14.10 @ 7:08AM
Jeff: Truth in Islam...that equals hate? Truth in failure of Obama admn. that equals hate? You can call it whatever you like.You can also stay away from the site. This is America.Free f*****speech. And you nor Paypal gets to determine free speech.You way over the top liberals want free pass with your own devious sneaky dirty behind the scenes attacks. But if Pamela sues.You all will suddenly be known. finally Jeff...go do something useful like clean up the gulf.
jon| 6.14.10 @ 8:12AM
if you don't realize islam is satan, and MOhammed sprang from a rat's anus, then you're an imbecile. Islam is a death cult, it ain't no religion
Irish22| 6.14.10 @ 12:28PM
How is it that eHarmony has to accommodate gays, but PayPal can ban haters?
Mick j| 6.14.10 @ 12:49PM
Listen to you....just an idiot. You should be banned from thinking.
rrpjr| 6.12.10 @ 10:34PM
I've written PayPal telling them that they've violated my personal "acceptable use" policy. No more PayPal for me.
mick J| 6.14.10 @ 12:56PM
CODE PINK OFFENDS...PAYPAL MUST BAN THEM!!
Taxpayer| 6.12.10 @ 10:59PM
First of all, show me one statement on the Atlas Shrugs site that calls for the physical torture or murder of anyone. There are none.
Second, I believe PayPal was goaded into this by complaints from the very thugs Atlas Shrugs warns us about.
I do believe we should do the same thing for Code Pink and other "hate" sites that use PayPal.
Third, I do believe I'll be letting PayPal know it needs to find a new customer to replace me.
Tim Knight | 6.12.10 @ 11:01PM
As a semi-frequent user of PayPal: This offends and disturbs me. I refuse to boycott PayPal, as they're the best in the business - but to label a freedom fighter against Radical Islam - which regardless of what Obama, Brennan or Plugs announce; we're at war with.
Exposing the truth is apparently "hate speech" these days. Goodness! Let us go through these idiotic claims one-by-one.
"Promote Hate" - More like exposes hate. And yes reading about honour killings, ruthless Jihad and the murder of innocent civilians does inspire hatred towards our Islamic enemies.
"Violence" - Say what? The only violence I've ever read on that site was in relation to Jihadists and for supporting our Troops/War on Terror.
"Racial Intolerance" - Nothing on her website has anything to do with anyone being Arab. It's about radical islamists; regardless of race, sex and creed and about exposing and combating them through political and (for our troops) military means.
"financial explotation of crime" - If that's now a crime in America (by that I mean reporting) than Nancy Grace should be in jail tomorrow morning. These charges of bogus, and purely idiotic.
rrpjr| 6.12.10 @ 11:11PM
" I refuse to boycott PayPal, as they're the best in the business..."
Sorry, Tim, but you'll have to do better than that. Inconveniencing ourselves is about the smallest sacrifice we can make in this war. And we're at war. The ignorance and profoundly unAmerican threats of censorship by PayPal are just one more front in this war. The only way they'll pay attention is through the pocketbook.
Al Patterson| 6.12.10 @ 11:59PM
The problem withe Paypal, is they ARE the business. We need a competitor that we can all move to too put them out of business.
Hossain | 6.13.10 @ 12:54AM
Hey Al:
Good going Al Paterson! Try not shopping at Walmart because they don't like you as a racist shopper. If you are a hate monger you will not find an outlet these day and time, period! What you are saying is that since PayPal does not like your hate mongering take your business somewhere else. Go ahead to do that but remember in the end truth, justice and fairness will outlast anything. Islam has survived for 16 hundred years and it will survive until the day this world ends, Insha-Allah, even though you despise it. Your world is getting increasingly smaller and the world of Islam is expanding, we are 2 Billion strong. Just watch out!!!
Ken Mitchell| 6.13.10 @ 1:02AM
Hoss, I DON'T shop at Walmart - because I don't want everything I buy to be covered with Chinese pollution. I lost two cats to poisoned cat food provided by Chinese merchants, and the week doesn't go by that we don't learn of some other Chinese product that turns out to have poisonous levels of cadmium, or lead, or melamine, or whatever the crap of the day is.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:06AM
Hmmm...I see a threat in your speech, boy. It's intolerant thugs like you who will lose.
Baldemar Huerta| 6.13.10 @ 1:25AM
"Islam has survived for 16 hundred years and it will survive until the day this world ends." Know what's lasted longer? Judaism. And it will also last after the world's ended, unlike the koran now in two ply.
Mark M.| 6.13.10 @ 2:33AM
Hey Hoss, we've got a cure for that 2 billion thing. It comes with a flash and (in your case) leaves lots of pretty glass.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 2:50PM
"Your world is getting increasingly smaller and the world of Islam is expanding, we are 2 Billion strong. Just watch out!!! "
Whatever are you talking about? We should watch out for the evil of Islam? I see you weren't ignorant, or stupid, just evil.
Thank you for the warning however. Sometimes the truth slips out.
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 3:04PM
"Your world is getting increasingly smaller and the world of Islam is expanding, we are 2 Billion strong. Just watch out!!! "
So, Hossain, while you are making great pretenses as being civilized and victimized - and receiving assistance in your whining by deranged infidel idiots - your vile trashy self just couldn't be contained, could it? And these idiotic dhimmi slaves who are defending you here should be proud of themselves - THIS is what you are enabling, you stupid traitors. This SOB is sooo happy that his cult of subhuman thugs will enslave us all - and you are only happy to help him. Aren't you proud of yourselves?
Scratch a "moderate" Muslim whom you may be tempted to defend against the bad, bad bigots, and THIS infidel-hating supremacist slime is what you will find. Get it yet?
Hossain, Islam has made you evil, obviously, as you take great glee in the genocide and subjugation of billions of non-Muslims. You need to get yourself right, son.
Here is what has happened to you, victim of brutal and vile brainwashing -
The Development of a Jihadist's mind
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=29606
You have been made demented and depraved by Islam, Hossain. You can free yourself.
Islam--Religon of HATE| 6.13.10 @ 5:26PM
If Hoss is 2 billion strong, then we're 4 billion strong--better WATCH OUT, Hoss. Dumbass.
Martin K. | 6.13.10 @ 3:04PM
Hossain | 6.13.10 @ 12:54AM wrote:
Just watch out!!!
Grimcargo| 6.14.10 @ 7:14AM
'Islam has survived for 16 hundred years'
And you are still living back in year one. Please don't confuse those who accept your murderous agendas with the dna of those who fought for America.The true patriots. The thousands upon thousands who died to keep this country free. We exist and you will be sad when you get to us.
William Frew| 6.13.10 @ 12:08AM
Paypal best in the business? You've got to be kidding me. Being the biggest doesn't make them the best. They are just about useless for anything except taking their cut.
sam| 6.13.10 @ 12:46PM
a person who reports is supposed to say the truth about issues, not brain wash people to hate millions of people because of what religion they follow... unfortunately anything that is propaganda against any other religion is considered hate speech and racism except for with islam, it becomes freedom of speech... have u ever noticed that?? try making something up about israel (which u don't need to because israel has done so many illegal things to palestine) you will be considered an anti-semite even if what you say is a fact, like israel used white phosphorous missiles against a predominantly civilian population (illegal by international law)...israel still unpunished... and america gives it the green light to do what it pleases... why don't you who think u are in a war against "terror" criticize your country first, look at all the messed up things you have done to the world... and eliminate that too!?!? or you think you're angels????!?!
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 6:37PM
Why would anyone call you an antisemite for pointing out the truth that Israel uses smoke screen(white phosphorous) missiles, which are perfectly legal? Well maybe we'd think you an antisemite if you were trying to imply something worse. Seems you are.
Laila| 6.12.10 @ 11:51PM
The fact that Pamela Geller is lying doesn't seem to bother a lot of people. According to "The Truth About the Ground Zero Mosque" by Jeffrey Imm, the "ground zero" mosque is in fact a prayer room TWO BLOCKS AWAY from ground zero, that is in an old building that is falling apart, that Muslims have been using as a place to pray for almost a year! And now that the crumbling place needs renovation, they are re-building it as an Islamic Cultural and Interfaith Center, including a prayer area...NOWHERE NEAR GROUND ZERO! And then the twisted Ms. Geller grabs the opportunityto mislead Americans into thinking that the "insensitive terrorist Muslims" are building a "trophy" to 9/11 on hallowed ground!!!!!!!
Only one question: Are the protesters really that dumb that they didn't even bother to educate themselves about what they were actually going out to protest, or do they just WANT to play dumb and vent their hate and bigotry?
Charles Manson was a cult; Islam is a religion of peace, and you can check that out by reading the Quran rather than listening to Fox news!
The MadKing| 6.13.10 @ 12:04AM
Laila, you either forgot to put the /sarc off in your post, or you're just plain delusional. The fifteen-story mosque proposed for Ground Zero is named after the Cordoba Caliphate, the seat of Islamic power during the Ottoman Empire. The builder even publicly stated that he believes not in religious tolerance, but in the establishment of Sharia law in the US. Not a problem for you?
And last I checked, the fundamentalist wing of Islam is perhaps the least peaceful on earth. Or do you know of any extremist Buddhist or Christian groups that have committed 15,000-plus terror attacks since 9/11? Lastly, you obviously don't see the danger of financial institutions like PayPal cutting off services based on "hate speech" for which no evidence is provided. PayPal is playing judge, jury and executioner here. Who's next on the Hate Speech hit list? Too late for me. I already closed my PayPal account. They can't fire me. I quit!
Wake up, will you?
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 1:05AM
Madking!
You have the right name. You are only a short distance from the mental hospital, that's where you belong. You could be a good spokesperson for Fox news. You are a loser in this world and in the hereafter. You can't win by hating others, period. If you don't like what I am saying go and find and hate monger historian and see if there are hate monger/racist winers from the past. Do not claim yorself to be superior just because you are a non-Muslim. Good deeds make you a better human being, not your hate-filled messages of other that you despise. Word of advise
"find the truth in what you despise and find the error in what you espouse".
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:19AM
"You can't win by hating others."
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Islam is all about hating everyone who isn't a Muslim. YOU are the hater. Buzz off, boy.
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 1:40AM
Listen Taxpayer!
Why are you so ashamed to put your own name out in public? What's your religious affiliation? You are not worth arguing with!
Do you remember how Dr. Martin Luthier King won? He never hated anyone, not even his enemies who have enslaved blacks, killed them and mimed them, and he was persistent in his message of peace and love.
You are among the worst of creations. May Allah burn you at the hottest part of hell for hating others!
TheMadKing| 6.13.10 @ 1:49AM
Martin Luther King didn't leave a trail of 15,000-plus terror attacks in the wake of the worst terror attacks in American history. Gandhi didn't kill. Neither did Mandela. Radical Muslims can't kill enough, even other Muslims! Catch that mosque massacre in Pakistan recently? Over a hundred killed, hundreds more wounded and 2000 held hostage? The Ahmadi Muslims have to request protection in Pakistan because all the other "good" Muslims want to kill them!
Nice touch with the "burn in hell" part too. Not sure if MLK would approve, though. As for moniker TheMadKing, I am proud of it. And if I were King of America, I would kick every radical Muslim like you out! That would be an act of mass sanity, not madness. We could all sure sleep a hell of a lot better at night!
sane| 6.13.10 @ 2:02AM
Don't listen to the followers of the mass murdering pedophile. They are not good judges of character.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:29AM
My religious affiliation is none of your damn business.
MLK was great because he knew God alone judges. You have NO standing nor right to say who is "worst" and who is not. Neither does Mohammad because he is merely a prophet. He is not God. I hope God is merciful to both of you for your sins.
Martin K. | 6.13.10 @ 3:21PM
Slaves, another good topic. Just how many African-Americans who embrace Islam these days are aware of the fact that the religion they hold dear now, sold their ancestors from Africa? While the slaves sold to the white people (US) could reproduce and have kids, the slave-men in muslim countries got castrated, and the woman were not allowed to keep their own kids. They became the property of the slave-owner. Nice religion this is. NOT! You know that "officially" the last country to drop slavery was a muslim one?
Islam--Religion of HATE| 6.13.10 @ 5:28PM
Islam is evil.
Noway| 6.13.10 @ 11:07PM
Slavery is permitted in Islam. Slavery in Saudi Arabia ended in 1962. That is right 1962. because of our American President John F Kennedy. That little know fact doesn't seem to reach Black Americans, who otherwise would have been castrated in Saudi Arabia and used as eunuchs:
"In 1962 the American President John F. Kennedy personally appealed to Prince Faisal, who was then Prime Minister, to abolish slavery in Saudi Arabia. The government then purchased freedom for every slave in the country for a price of nearly 5,000 Saudi riyals per head, but many chose to stay in the households they were familiar with. " http://www.ruqaiyyah.karoo.net/articles/eunuch.htm
Hal C| 6.14.10 @ 12:16PM
"Too ashamred to put your name out in public?" That's rich. I don't see your last name out there, HUSSAIN, some brave man you are, putting out a name that's shared a few million others in the Muslim world....
Maybe you trolls who are on the CAIR payroll should find another site to harass.
MickR| 6.14.10 @ 3:19AM
Hossain... I believe in freedom... I also believe that ALL Muslims should be wiped off the face of the Earth ! Your religion was founded by a half DOG /pig...
Mike Giles| 6.13.10 @ 8:18AM
Actually Cordoba was the seat of power of the Umayyad Emirate in Spain, established about 750 AD when they were driven out of power in the rest of the Middle East. The Ottomans came about five centuries later. Other then that, your correct on the other particulars though.
Theo Goodwin| 6.13.10 @ 12:49PM
There is no need to once again convict Islam of many and varied crimes. The fact of the matter is that Sharia is radically incompatible with the Constitution of the United States. The point being that cool and calm heads can agree that there is no place for Islam in the constitutional republic that is the United States today. Take a simple and uncontroversial example: apostasy. According to the First Amendent to the Constitution of the USA, there can be no compulsion in religion. Each and every citizen has total freedom to join or leave a religion as they please. Any coercion used against that citizen is a federal crime that is investigated by the FBI. Yet Islam demands punishment of apostates. The gravity of the punishment is not what matters. The simple fact of any punishment for apostasy is illegal in the USA. Is there some brave Muslim on this forum who would like to claim, truthfully, that Islam does not punish apostasy? Of course not. Clearly, then, the matter is settled. Islam is incompatible with the constitutional republic that is the USA.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:12PM
You gotta be kidding me! Do I know of any Extremist Christian groups? How about Hitler and the Nazis, the Crusaders, Christians in the middle ages burning people at the stake for witchcraft, Christians in the middle ages blaming the bubonic plague on Jews and burning them alive en mass, serial killers like Charles Manson and his Church, the KKK, the Arian Nation, the Christian Militia who were caught last month plotting to bomb police all over America.... I could go on. Yet we don't call all Christians terrorists! I don't know WHERE people like you get their info about Islam, but there are only TWO sources, the Quran and Sunnah, NOT Fox News or Pat Robertson or Pamela Geller or even the Taliban or Ahmedinajad! And I bet you've never read either source!
You need to wake up!
blakbird| 6.14.10 @ 12:15AM
2010.06.12 Pakistan Khyber 2 0 Two tribesmen are kidnapped and murdered by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.06.12 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 0 Five local cops are dismembered by a Taliban roadside blast.
2010.06.12 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Sunni and Shia exchange targeted assassinations.
2010.06.12 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Holy Warriors shoot a woman to death in her home.
2010.06.12 Dagestan Derbent 2 1 Islamic snipers take down two local police.
2010.06.12 Thailand Yala 4 0 Four civilians are gunned down in separate attacks by Muslim radicals.
2010.06.12 Thailand Yala 1 24 A 34-year-old Buddhist man dies from injuries suffered when Islamic separatists throw a bomb into a tea shop.
2010.06.11 Philippines Maluso 3 0 Three lumberjacks are kidnapped and beheaded by Abu Sayyaf militants.
2010.06.11 Afghanistan Zabul 4 0 Four human beings at a market are blown to Allah by a suicide bomber.
2010.06.11 Afghanistan Mata Khan 4 0 Four construction workers are brutally shot to death by Sunni fundamentalists.
2010.06.11 Iraq Jalawla 8 27 Jihadis take out eight souls with a roadside blast.
2010.06.11 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Terrorists plant a bomb in a garbage pile, killing three bystanders.
2010.06.11 Algeria Lakhdaria 4 20 Four people are killed when fundamentalists blow up an explosives laden truck along a city street.
2010.06.11 Afghanistan Kandahar 9 8 Four women and three children riding a minibus are among nine civilians torn apart by an Islamist shrapnel bomb.
2010.06.11 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 29-year-old man is gunned down by Islamic militia outside a motorcycle repair shop.
2010.06.10 Iraq Tikrit 5 15 Five people are taken out in a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2010.06.10 Pakistan Karachi 1 3 Islamists are suspected of bombing a Navy office, leaving one dead.
2010.06.10 Iraq Baghdad 4 8 A Shahid suicide bomber murders four civilians.
2010.06.10 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A woman is shot to death inside her home by Mujahid.
2010.06.09 Pakistan Mohmand 2 0 Two local soldiers are killed by a Taliban ambush.
2010.06.09 Thailand Yala 1 23 A 5-year-old girl is murdered in a grenade attack by Islamic separatists.
2010.06.09 Iraq Shurqat 2 2 Two Iraqis are gunned down by suspected al-Qaeda.
2010.06.09 Somalia Mogadishu 5 0 Five government workers are blown to bits by an Islamist roadside bomb.
2010.06.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shia is shot to death by sectarian rivals.
2010.06.09 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 Religious fanatics drag a local city official from his home and murder him.
2010.06.09 Afghanistan Nadahan 40 73 Forty people at a wedding are incinerated by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2010.06.09 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 A husband and his wife are brutally executed in their own home by Mujahideen.
2010.06.09 Iraq Muqdadiya 2 4 A suicide bomber on a motorcycle murders two civilians.
2010.06.08 Iraq al-Halla 3 1 Jihadis spray the inside of a vehicle with automatic weapons, taking out three civilians.
2010.06.08 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A Christian father is murdered outside his home by Islamist gunmen.
2010.06.08 Pakistan Orakzai 6 8 Religious fanatics storm a police checkpoint, killing six officers.
2010.06.08 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Islamic militants gun down an unmarried couple.
2010.06.08 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A Hindu trader is shot to death by Muslim kidnappers.
2010.06.08 Pakistan Punjab 4 3 Four drivers are burned to death when Mujahideen set fire to a supply convoy.
2010.06.08 Afghanistan Sangin 1 0 A 7-year-old boy is kidnapped and hanged by Sunni fundamen
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:14PM
You gotta be kidding me! Do I know of any Extremist Christian groups? How about Hitler and the Nazis, the Crusaders, Christians in the middle ages burning people at the stake for witchcraft, Christians in the middle ages blaming the bubonic plague on Jews and burning them alive en mass, serial killers like Charles Manson and his Church, the KKK, the Arian Nation, the Christian Militia who were caught last month plotting to bomb police all over America.... I could go on. Yet we don't call all Christians terrorists! I don't know WHERE people like you get their info about Islam, but there are only TWO sources, the Quran and Sunnah, NOT Fox News or Pat Robertson or Pamela Geller or even the Taliban or Ahmedinajad! And I bet you've never read either source!
You need to wake up!
Timekeeper| 6.13.10 @ 5:12PM
Hmmm. The crusades were in the 12th century. Are you really willing to say that Islam is 800 years less advanced than Christianity? Hitler was nominally Christian, but he didn't use religion to justify his mass murders, unlike the jihadis who detonate themselves inside pizzerias and malls. Manson wasn't Christian at all; his beliefs were based mostly on Scientology. The KKK, Aryan Nation, and Christian Militia are all Christian terrorist groups, but are reviled among other Christians, rather than honored and celebrated as are the Islamic bombers. No, not all Muslims venerate the "martyrs", but many do, and few indeed openly condemn the violence and destruction caused by their warped interpretation of your religion.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:31PM
Laila: Stuck on Stupid and still living in the 12th century--typical braindead Muslim ass sucker.
ADHD| 6.13.10 @ 6:20PM
Laila:
1) Hitler was NOT a Christian (and nor were Ljéñin, Stáljin, Mao, Pol-Pot or Béla Kún, for that matter)!!! Nominally a Roman-Catholic in youth, he utterly hated the Church in adulthood and intended to kidnap the Pope!! It was his intention - and his underling Himmler's - to create a new religion featuring HIMSELF as a world-saviour and eliminate everything else off the face of the earth (God was not to be particularly featured)!!!
2) Muslims brought the Crusades down upon their own heads by their murderings, rapings, kidnappings and robbings - and trying to stop Christian access to the Holy City of Jerusalem!!! When the Byzantines lost the battle of Manzikert in 1071, they appealed for help to the West: that's how the Crusades started!!! [While we're at it, it's a HUGE pity that Duke Reginald of Châtillon didn't prepare or equip himself and his army right in his quest to destroy Medina and Mecca - then this scourge of Islâm would have been eliminated more than 800 years ago!!!!]
3) Charles Manson, KKK, Aryan-Nation and Jim Jones in addition to their fellow-cultists are most certainly NOT Christian (if ever they were!!). On the other hand, the Talibs and Ahmedinejad are most certainly Muslim (and even in Islâm, people kill each other on the slightest of religious issues - see Shi'a vs. Sunni; in Shi'a, the 12 vs. the 7 imâms) - and they want to annihilate EVERYTHING invented, made, created, etc. since 600 AD!!!!
4) Both the Qu'rân and Hadiths (Sunna) openly encourage - nay, COMMAND - Muslim lying (taqiyya) to any and all non-Muslims!!!! And you are doing just as much - you're LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH!!! [And your throat-slitting is almost every bit as sadistic and painful as anybody being burned alive at the stake...]
ADHD| 6.13.10 @ 6:21PM
Postscript: finally, yes I HAVE read the Qu'rân many years ago!! It's fuller of lies, distortions and half-truths than a sieve...
Jim T| 6.13.10 @ 12:11AM
I am so sick of this "religion of peace" crap. Islam's founder was a warrior, and that's what his religion supports - war.
Since you suggested it, let's look at the Koran:
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad, chop off their heads. " (Koran, 47:4)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
Sounds real "peaceful" to me.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:09AM
Exactly.
To our Islamic troll: Let's see you point out exactly where Jesus Christ calls for the annihilation of anyone who doesn't follow him.
Hossain| 6.13.10 @ 1:21AM
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
You read Quran with open mind. Do not quote Quran out of context. Yes, Allah destroyed the tribes and naitons of the past after all effort by the messenger of Allah had failed. Did you like it when Allah destroyed Pheroa and his mighty Army in the Niles - was it right to destroy Pheroa, you bet it was. These verses in the Quran is advise to the wise and there's nothing there for morons who thinks Allah is unjust and destroys nations. If Allah destroys a nation it was well deserved, even though you despise it. Did Allah destroy Roman Empire rightfully, you bet He was right. Did Allah destroy Persian Empire rightfully, you bet He was right. Did you read the part of Quran where Allah says "If you do not like Allah's way of doing things, get out of Allah's universe and find another world and go and live there". This is the truth and it always hearts. Doesn't it?
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:38AM
Does that include the Crusades? I seem to recall Allah's boys being on the short end of that stick.
mishu| 6.13.10 @ 1:47AM
That Allah sounds like a hateful guy.
Rahmbo| 6.13.10 @ 11:33PM
A pervert, too.
Mark M.| 6.13.10 @ 2:29AM
Allah destroyed Rome eh? And here I thought it was the rise of Germanic nomadic warrior tribes, several raw materials shortages, the widespread adoption of Christianity, an unsustainable welfare state, and systemic political instability due to an unworkable chain of succession.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:30AM
Mark, You're letting facts get in the way of the Ayatutu's rants.
Mike Giles| 6.13.10 @ 8:22AM
Mark,
Hoss is talking about the Byzantine empire (Constantinople). In case you haven't noticed, he isn't strong on history, and sounds like he's speaking through a translation matrix.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:41AM
Still waiting for you to point out where Jesus Christ calls for the annihilation of anyone who doesn't follow him.
Taxpayer| 6.14.10 @ 3:28AM
Yoo hoo, Hossain--still waiting...
**crickets**
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 3:28PM
No Allah is an imaginary entity so he couldn't have done anything.
Did reality destroy the Ottoman empire? Did reality destroy a long succession of Islamic empires? Did reality destroy the evil Muslim empire in Cordoba and Andalusia. Yes.
Since you believe in Allah you must believe that he destroyed all these Muslim empires too, or at least let them be destroyed.
That goes for Muhammed too who was poisoned by one of his victims.
Noway| 6.13.10 @ 11:00PM
"If Allah destroys a nation it was well deserved, even though you despise it. Did Allah destroy Roman Empire rightfully, you bet He was right. Did Allah destroy Persian Empire rightfully, you bet He was right. Did you read the part of Quran where Allah says "If you do not like Allah's way of doing things, get out of Allah's universe and find another world and go and live there". "
You are so ugly. Your soul is black. You are repulsive and should be shunned from civilization.
Rahmbo| 6.13.10 @ 11:32PM
Last week, the Afghanistan Taliban hanged a 7 year old boy for being a spy. He was 7 years old for God's sake!! Are you people insane?
And....we are ugly and repulsive with black souls?
You cave-dwellers are civilization destroyers, you don't deserve our wonderful country.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:25PM
Jim T, it would be nice if you explain these verses in CONTEXT with their commentary from the sunnah, to show if they are talking about ALL non-believers or just those who have killed the Muslims and attacked them!!!!!!!!!! This is what happens when you don't know exactly what it is you are quoting! How about you show the rest of it:
“And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, BUT TRANSGRESS NOT THE LIMITS. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors (190). And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And persecution is worse than killing. And fight not with them at the Holy Mosque at Mecca unless they (first) fight you there. BUT IF THEY ATTACK YOU, THEN KILL THEM Such is the recompense of the non-believers (191).BUT IF THEY CEASE, then Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (192). And fight them until there is no more persecution and worship is for Allâh (alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression EXCEPT against the evildoers (193)” (the Holy Quran, 2:190-193).
“If you (O Muhammad) fear treachery from any people throw back (their covenant) to them (so as to be) on equal terms (that there will be no more covenant between you and them). Certainly Allâh likes not the treacherous (58). And let not those who disbelieve think that they can outstrip (escape) from the punishment. Verily, they will never be able to save themselves (from Allâh’s Punishment) (59). And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war to threaten the enemy of Allâh and your enemy, and others besides whom you may not know, but whom Allâh does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allâh shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly (60). But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allâh. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower (61). And if they intend to deceive you, then verily, Allâh is All-Sufficient for you. He it is Who has supported you with His Help and with the believers (62)” (the Holy Quran, 8:58-62).
It is narrated by Ibn ‘Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children” (The Sunnah, Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4320).
Abu Bakr, the first Caliph who ruled the Islamic empire after the Prophet’s (peace be upon him) death, addressed his army before sending it to Syria: “Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Do not kill a child, or a woman, or an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, or burn them with fire, especially those that are fruitful. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly. Slay not any of the enemy’s flock, except enough for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services (monks/nuns/rabbis): leave them alone” (The Sunnah, Malik’s Muwatta, Book 21, #21.3.10).
Why don't you compare the above teachings with the following PEACEFUL teachings from the BIBLE, and try to explain the following to us?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: 2:35 Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took (Deuteronomy, 2:33-35).
3:5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many. 3:6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. 3:7 But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves (Deuteronomy, 3:5-7).
15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass…. 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt. 15:8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword (1 Samuel, 15:2,3,7,8).
13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up (Hosea, 13:16).
32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor (Exodus, 32:27).
9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 9:7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city (Ezekiel 9:4-7).
31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves (Numbers, 31:17 and 18).
Martin K.| 6.13.10 @ 5:03PM
Ah I see each time Muslims blow up other Muslims, it was because they started the fight. Or when 4 Muslims kill one Buddhist, it was he who started the fight. Right, NEVER have Muslim started a fight first.
Now as to your quotes from the OT, you said one should read the verses of the Koran in context, but you don't do the same with the OT. I'll leave you alone to figure out why, don't wanna deprive you of a Aha-experience when finally the shoe drops! LOL! It always the same with the pro-islamic stooges.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:32PM
Laila's burka is too tight.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 10:05PM
No actually my burkas are all made of a lovely voile material that is very breathable and comfortable to wear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The problem happens when your skull is too tight for your brain! It causes gradual neuronal degeneration culminating in brain atrophy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 10:47PM
You are a useless woman and an even more useless human being. Better watch yourself, your bomb belt might go off.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 11:43PM
So how useful are you? Do you have a high school diploma? Because you sure sound like a high school kid! I graduated High School with London University's prestigious GCE. I am an M.D., M.Sc.,Ph,D. in pediatric and neonatal medicine (Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery, Masters Degree in Pediatrics, Doctoral Degree in Neonatalogy) and was Consultant of Neonatal and Perinatal Medicine in my home country last time I checked! I speak, read, and write 3 languages. I am also a very successful mom and wife to a wonderful husband and kids who wouldn't trade me for the world. I am also a dutiful daughter loved and honored by my parents and family. Can you please explain how I am a useless woman and an even more useless human being? And kindly explain how MORE useful you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:39AM
What a waste of education.
gsw| 6.14.10 @ 4:28AM
You have a "London University's prestigious GCE"? Since when does any London Uni give out General Certificates of Education?
Are there no other English people reading this who find this somewhat weird - and unlikely?
Which college?
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 12:13PM
That was back in the late 70s when I was in high school and you weren't born yet! There was a GCE O Level and a GCE A Level, both administered by London University through its British Councils and Embassies worldwide. They've changed it now and it has a completely different name, and may not be administered by the same authority any more! You can contact the nearest British Embassy and ASK about this history if you are sceptical (or ignorant)!
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 8:50PM
The quotes from the bible are merely historical statements of atrocities in the name of god done in the past by Jews. They don't tell Christians to kill non-Christians.
On the other hand it is not at all clear what the limits if any are to "do not exceed the limits" when you prophet gets to assassinate pregnant women with a knife to the belly, tortures his victims buy setting fires on their chests, chops the heads off all males of one tribe, etc. What is the nature of this mercy when he does stuff like that? I see a text that allows Muhammad the luxury of violating treaties on mere suspicion. Not very admirable.
The problem with your Qur'an is that when it tells Muslims to kill is is quite explicit and clear about what to do, who to kill (just about any non-Muslim) and there is no proportion in the response to the supposed trespasses. However the supposed limits are vague and unstated.
The Qur'an is useless as a guide to morality because it contradicts itself. A guide that says to murder others in the most vicious way and to spread terror in the land which also claims how merciful it is has no moral authority and can only result in exactly what it has caused, endless suffering.
What good is a instruction manual for a hair dryer that tells you to use it while taking a shower, and to please use it responsibly?
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 10:14PM
Oh, so Jews are the criminals now? And the Old Testament is history! Same lame answer of "we follow Jesus and the New Testament only".
Anyone care to quote what Jesus says about the Old Testament and the laws of its prophets?
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
Ans what about Matthew 5:17
New International Version (©1984)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose."
English Standard Version (©2001)
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill"
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Don't ever think that I came to set aside Moses' Teachings or the Prophets. I didn't come to set them aside but to make them come true."
King James Bible
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 10:54PM
Tell you what, Laila--you folks stop driving loaded airliners into our crowded office buildings and we'll start believing your "Religion of peace" crap.
Until then, buzz off!
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 11:46PM
Tell that to the CHRISTIAN who drove his plane last month into the Texas IRS building packed with people, killing 2 !
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:40AM
He was an atheist, moron. Do your homework.
He was a lone lunatic--why are there so many Muslim lunatics ?
Hal C| 6.14.10 @ 12:37PM
Only 2? That's a slow day to a Muslim Jihadist.
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 12:22PM
Message to "Islam--Religion of Hate":
I’d like to thank you for all the hate comments you left on this page, and for making my experiment work! You see, when you come across someone with the screen name “Islam-Religion of Hate”, you know immediately that there is no greater hate than in the heart of the person using that screen name! So I decided to keep you engaged in conversation to allow you to spew out all the hate inside you. Your comments, as those of others on this page, are read by millions worldwide. They are even analyzed by reporters who want to measure and estimate hate in America, and some of them even quote your comments in their articles, like this reporter:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story.....ction.html
When millions of people around the world read these comments, it becomes very apparent to them that it is NOT Islam that is a religion of hate, but the people who are writing these comments are the real hate-mongers! One person on this page even called me “You Muslim slut”! Funny, considering that devout, God-fearing Muslims, men and women, remain virgin until their marriage and never touch anyone but their spouse!!!!! So “Muslim’ and “Slut” don’t really go together, but what these comments do is actually IMPROVE the image of Islam by exposing your CHRISTIAN HATE! And I’m NOT saying that ALL Christians are like that – I have many Christian friends who are some of the best people I have met. But people like you must have missed the memo when Jesus peace be upon him said “love thy neighbor as thyself”! Or do you really think he said “love thy neighbor as thyself if they are Christian, but hate their guts if they are Muslim”?!!! Because when Mohammed peace be upon him said, “Gabriel continued to recommend me to treat my neighbors kindly and politely so much so that I thought he would order me to make them my heirs!” (The Sunnah, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 43), he SPECIFIED in another hadith that “neighbors” include EVERYONE of all religions and races!!! Muslims don’t walk around carrying hate like you do because we are taught:
“O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former; nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former, nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it, to insult one’s brother after having Faith. And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed wrongdoers (11). O you who believe! Avoid much suspicions, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, nor backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so therefore hate backbiting). And fear Allah. Verily, Allah is the One Who accepts repentance, and is Most Merciful (12). O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female (Adam and Eve), and made you into nations and tribes, that you may get to know one another 9not that you may despise one another). Verily, the most honorable of you in the sight of Allah is that (believer) who is pious. Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware (13)” (The Holy Quran, 49:11-13).
So thanks, anyway. Now go enjoy the rest of your miserable hate-filled life while you can, before you stand trial before your Lord who will hold you accountable for this hate for all eternity.
Cheers!
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 12:50PM
Oh, and you might also want to watch this video of these "oppressed" Muslim women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfx4glTU5JQ
Liberal Reader| 6.14.10 @ 1:41PM
Sure, Laila. Your "Experiment" proving Christian hate is comprised of angry words only; Muslims have proven YOUR HATE by slaughtering thousands of innocent folks all over the world in the name of Allah.
Our words can't kill you, but your actions can and do kill others.
Better take a look in the mirror to see the REAL MONSTER here.
Jeremiah| 6.14.10 @ 1:49PM
Hmmm. Methinks Laila is also the blogger, "Islam--Religion of Hate."
Sounds like the "Doctor" has engaged in hateful trickery to fool Muslims around the world. Nice "experiment" Dr. Laila. Shame on you; what would Allah think of your deceit?
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 3:12PM
I must confess before Allah. You are right, Jeremiah, I have lied.
Please forgive me.
ADHD| 6.14.10 @ 4:46PM
You've only confessed that you've lied over something! You've NOT confessed to your specific lies, where you have been uttering repeated distortions, half-truths and blatant 100% lies - all at least permitted if not downright COMMANDED by your Qu'rân and Hadiths!!!
You must confess EVERYTHING - and I mean every last single thing in fullest detail - before anybody can consider that you're sincere and thus meriting any forgiveness!!!!
LAILA| 6.19.10 @ 6:34PM
"I must confess before Allah. You are right, Jeremiah, I have lied. "
THIS IS NOT ME!!!!!!!! THIS IS SOME MORON USING MY NAME, AND I FULLY PLAN ON REPORTING THIS RIGHT NOW.
LAILA| 7.7.10 @ 9:54PM
OMG! My evil twin is back and impersonating me once again! I must run swiftly to the Masjid and beg Allah for his forgiveness.
Please!! Do not stone me because I am a whore.
Laila| 6.21.10 @ 2:51PM
"Methinks" you are too stupid for words, Jeremiah!
LAILA| 7.7.10 @ 9:56PM
Shut up evil twin! Allah will punish you and make you wear a too tight burkha! Filthy whore!!
jgreene| 6.13.10 @ 12:14AM
Laila,
I've read and read the Koran. Islam is NOT a religion of peace and never has been. It is an intolerant cult like quasi-religion political system that allows Muslims to murder, torture, rape and enslave any non-Muslim. The Koran states that Allah hates kafirs (non believers) and commands Muslims to despise kafirs and kill them.
I suggest you stop your "lying"; it just doesn't work any longer.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:26PM
See my reply above to Jim T!
nomoregore| 6.13.10 @ 1:34AM
No, don't listen to Fox News. Allah forbid listening to an unbiased news outlet.
Holly| 6.13.10 @ 3:09AM
If Islam is a religion of peace then I am Princess Di.
Read the Quran yourself, idiot. Killing infidels is a big part of the "religion"; a part, I might add, which is not found in any other religion.
David Hoffman| 6.13.10 @ 4:36AM
I have read the Quran several times in different English translations. One thing it is not is a book of peace and tolerance. The author, Mohammed, seems to have been a psychopath with his fantasies of violence.
Bear1909| 6.13.10 @ 5:51AM
Religion of peace. The Quran and Shura say what about Jews? What do the practitioners of the Religion of Peace in Iran, in Gaza, and Lebanon under the flags of the country, Hamas, and Hezbollah--- what do they preach in the name of Islam and in the name of the child rapist Mohammed--- and worse, in the name of Allah?
Make your point in a different way because making a simple declaration does not an argument make.
Islam is a political cult masquerading as a religion of conquest.
I will not submit.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:32PM
" The Quran and Shura say what about Jews?"
“And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in a good manner), except with those of them who do wrong; and say (to them): ‘We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)” (the Holy Quran, 29:46).
Anas bin Malik reported Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) as saying: “When the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) offer you salutations, you should say: The same to you” (The Sunnah, Sahih Muslim, Book 026, #5380).
Narrated by Abdur Rahman bin Abi Laila: “Sahl bin Hunaif and Qais bin Sad were sitting in the city of Al-Qadisiya. A funeral procession passed in front of them and they stood up. They were told that the funeral procession was for one of the inhabitants of the land i.e. of a non-believer under the protection of Muslims. They replied, ‘A funeral procession passed in front of the Prophet and he stood up. When he was told that it was the coffin of a Jew, he said, ‘Is he not a living being (soul)?” (The Sunnah, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 2, Book 23, #399).
“And if anyone of the nonbelievers seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allâh (the Qurân), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not” (the Holy Quran, 9:6).
“The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said, ‘Anyone who kills a non-Muslim person under protection (Arabic: thimmi) will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise” (Narrated in “Al-Awsat by Al-Tabarani”).
“The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: ‘Whoever hurts a non-Muslim person under protection, I am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Resurrection” (Narrated by Al-Khatib).
“Allâh does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those (of other religions) who fought not against you on account of your religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allâh loves those who are just (8). It is only regarding those who fought against you on account of your religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allâh forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the wrongdoers (9)” (the Holy Quran, 60:8-9).
Narrated by ‘Amr bin Maimun: “Omar (the third Caliph), after he was stabbed, instructed (his would-be-successor) saying, ‘I urge him (i.e. the new Caliph) to take care of those non-Muslims who are under the protection of Allah and His Apostle in that he should observe the convention agreed upon with them, and fight on their behalf (to secure their safety) and he should not over-tax them beyond their capability” (The Sunnah, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Book 52, #287).
Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-‘As: “The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: ‘The Compassionate One (God) has mercy on those who are merciful. If you show mercy to those who are on the earth, He Who is in the heaven will show mercy to you” (The Sunnah, Sunnan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4923).
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:34PM
Give it up, Laila--why would we believe anything from a woman who allows men to tell her what to think? You're useless and a disgrace to women everywhere.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 6:47PM
No man has ever told ME what to do or think!That's only in the Bible that says that a woman can't learn anything except what her husband teaches her!!!!!!!! Only God Almighty tells me what to do, and ONLY to Him I submit. My husband, and before him my father, have no say in HOW I CHOOSE to worship my Lord. And since my God Almighty, Allah, is the same God that Jesus peace be upon him worshipped, whom you call "God the Father" and whom Jesus in Armaic called "Ellah", I WILL in fact give it up like you suggest since it's not my job to judge you, or even make you understand against your will. You and I will both die one day and stand trial before the Almighty, and the one who is wrong will suffer a horrible punishment, the other will go to Paradise. So yes, I quit, and let the Almighty take over from here. Hasbiya Allah wa ne'ima alwakeel.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 10:59PM
Yeah right. Try showing your ankles in public without getting acid thrown in your face. It happened all of the time in Taliban controlled Afghanistan. You Muslim women look like whipped dogs. No thanks.
Move back to Afghanistan where you belong instead of infecting us with your ugly disease.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 11:52PM
I used to wear a SWIMSUIT in my Arab home country you moron! In public. Nobody gave a damn! I only started becoming devout after studying Islam properly to answer idiots like you after 9/11. I only started wearing a veil 4 years ago, TEN years AFTER moving to the US. Are you really that dumb that you can't understand? And what about the 20 plus American converts that I personally know who wear a face veil, who grew up lying semi-nude on the beach? Who forced them? (And they're not even married to Arabs!)
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:43AM
You're lucky you don't live in the Middle East--you would have been fish food long ago.
Why are you up so late, don't PHYSICIANS like you need your sleep?
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 12:16PM
I DID live in the Middle East, moron! I grew up in Bahrain, Kuwait, and Egypt, and one of these three is my home country, and I NEVER wore a veil living in ANY of them! (and yes, I wore the swimsuit in all 3, and there's no "fatwa" hanging over my head in any of them)!!!!!!!!!
Jeremiah| 6.14.10 @ 4:43PM
If the Middle East is so wonderful, Laila, why did you move to a Western country? Hmmm?
Bet you there'd be a big old fatwa on your head right now.
blakbird| 6.14.10 @ 12:51AM
such an ego lol
and it was said before, what a waste of an education...like pearls before swine me thinks
Jimbo| 6.14.10 @ 12:56AM
Swine? Racist!
ADHD| 6.14.10 @ 4:48PM
Forget the "political correctness", please - it's all part of the totalitarianism we're all having to fight!!!
It doesn't matter whether it's Communism, Nazism, Fascism or Islâm (or anything else, for that matter): it's simply EVIL!!!!
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 6:08PM
I think Jimbo was being sarcastic, ADHD.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:21PM
I don't believe in state support for religion anywhere in the world. So I object to the funding of Mosques from any government worldwide. Which would include Saudi support in the US. Since there is complete government control of wealth in Saudi Arabia that would also include any contributions made by private individuals in the Saudi family, and those who are supported by them. Funding via these other sources are merely government funding in disguise.
Nor should funding be allowed by any foreign religious organization that receives state support. If that impact the Catholics then too bad for them.
Mohammed| 6.13.10 @ 2:24PM
Laila? OBVIOUSLY an Islamic name.
Religion of peace?
Ask the 343 dead firefighters, 23 dead police, and 3,000 dead innocent people.
MUSLIMS ARE GRIEF!
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 4:37PM
Bush and Cheney were the masterminds behind that day! They framed the Muslim world in order to extend their oil pipes into Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and whatever comes next!!!!!!!!! (Hint: Bin Laden was Bush's PARTNER in his oil business before 9/11). Not our fault that you are too naive for words to see the EVIDENCE all over the place!
P.S. Laila is a VERY common non-Muslim American name, written Lila, Laila, Layla, and Leila!!!!!!!!!! But Yes, I am Muslim.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:36PM
Stupid as a stump--and twice as dangerous. Go back under the rock you call home, moron.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 6:51PM
This IS home! If you don't like the Constitution of this great country and don't respect the concepts of freedom of religious practice and respect for all that this nation was founded on, you should go back home to where your ancestors came from (unless you are Native Indian). Or maybe you can move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, since you obviously share their narrow minded and un-Islamic disrespect and bigotry for other religions!!!
Jeremiah| 6.13.10 @ 11:02PM
Muslim slut. You lie!
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 3:07PM
"The fact that Pamela Geller is lying "
No, she isn't. Just shut up, you stupid Muslima slave. Islam is evil and needs to be shut down wherever it is found. I hate Islam because Islam hates me. That's all there is too it. Nobody needs to lie about Islam because Islam itself is simply vile when the baldfaced FACTS are known.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:37PM
Right On!! I'm with you, sister.
Choi| 6.14.10 @ 1:32AM
Laila,an Arab Muslima(Muslim woman) posted above a primer in Taqyia, the Islamic "art" of LYING DECEPTION to further the JIHAD against Everything Good and Decent in this world.
Laila is "upset" because PAMELA GELLER REPORTS THE TRUTH.
Laila was LIKELY ASSIGNED to be a CYBER-JIHADIST TROLL by CAIR or another Muslim Brotherhood "Shell Game" organization.
Grid| 6.12.10 @ 11:54PM
Geller does promote hate. That's her schtick. I abhor what she does, and think she's a small minded, scared person.
I support her right to be as she is, and I think Paypal should reconsider. As a private company, I think they have the right to not do business with her, but I think it is wrong to use their position of power to influence speech.
Take the payments, and your cut, and let the market of ideas pick winners
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:13AM
Anyone who follows a religion that insists on the murder of all who dare disagree is himself a murderer.
I hate murderers.
So sue me.
Brian Mophtali| 6.13.10 @ 3:13AM
Have you red your Bible? The first testament?! Do so if you have not, I'll garantee you, you will be surprised by the hate that exist in it, and I'll garantee you, you will never talk about Islam ever again!
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:35AM
Have you read the New Testament? Where Christ tells everyone the home truths of what God wants us to do? That God is done tempering His people in the fire of war, and that it's time to build a New Kingdom on earth, devoted to peace? You know, all that "Love thy neighbor" and "keeping the law" stuff?
jpeditor| 6.13.10 @ 3:42AM
"Have you red your Bible?"
Yeah, we read it and Judaism and Christianity gave up the violence centuries ago, while Islam IS STILL THE MOST VIOLENT, MURDERING, DEATH CULT on earth.
"I'll garantee you, you will never talk about Islam ever again!'
And we will talk about islam AS MUCH AS WE WANT, exposing it as the death cult that worked with the nazis, that STILL loves the nazis and that oppresses women, rapes children, steals land, and murders Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus AND MUSLIMS all over the world.
We are not your dhimmies, we WILL NOT SUBMIT and we will destroy the jihadis wherever we find them.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:34PM
I'm an atheist who rejected the faith of my ancestors, Christianity. I did so for ethical reasons but one of them was not because Christians believe that commandments by God to some ancient Israeli King to slaughter some long dead tribe had any bearing on how anyone else should act. Unfortunately the Qur'an is not written in the same fashion. Those violent aspects are not written as historical renderings of past events. Instead they are written as infallible rules for murdering the non-Muslim, an existing group, for all time.
The errors and problems in Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are quite different in nature and the differing results of those errors are quite apparent.
An extremist Christian is more likely to be like the Amish and Menonites, peaceful since Jesus was a pacifist figure, while an extremist in the Islamic faith to be an intolerant murderer because that is what Mohammad was. Sure Mohammed quoted the peaceful notions of other religions to get himself out of sticky situations but then the turned around later and attacked, murdered, tortured, or had assassinated those that he had deceived with his false pacifism.
Martin K. | 6.13.10 @ 3:32PM
First it is called the Old Testament. Second, I don't think it was a open ended to continue until the end of the world. Whereas Mohamnmed in the Hadith says that even Stones and Trees will cry out if a Jew is hiding behind them to the Muslim: "Kill the Jew, who is hiding behind me" Except for a jewish tree all will do so. Never mind the fact that stones nor tree can't talk, it still open-ended until the "last hour". Religion of peace? If I wanted one Islam would be my last choice!
No Muslim Slave| 6.13.10 @ 3:12PM
"Geller does promote hate. That's her schtick. I abhor what she does, and think she's a small minded, scared person. "
Oh, just SHUT UP. The only "hate" she promotes is what is in the frigging disgusting KORAN itself. You "abhor what she does?" She's trying to protect the American Constitution and prevent us all from being enslaved - you "abhor" that? Then get the hell away from me, you traitor to all that is sacred.
No, she's not "small-minded" - only the idiots who claim Islam is a "religion of peace" have tiny little ignorant minds.
She's "scared?" Well, she's got the brains to look around and see what Islam does to human beings all over the world - damned right, she's scared! So am I - and if you bring this demented cult anywhere near me, you will find me reacting like a grizzly bear whose cubs are threatened.
Every intelligent, educated and awake person on this planet is scared of Islam. Only the Muslim slaves and their stupid dhimmi mouthpieces are not - if they still had their consciences, they would be. But they've been so abused by Islam and other Muslims they can't even think straight.
Choi| 6.14.10 @ 1:38AM
NO,Grid, Pamela DOES NOT promote Hate.
IF you ABHOR what she does,than it's because YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH.
You're obviously a LEFTIST 5th Columnist Quisling only TOO Happy to be the Jihad's little helper .
TRUTH and LEFTIES are Complete STRANGERS!
Omar| 6.13.10 @ 12:00AM
Well, she certainly "hates" shariah as well as anyone who promulgates/abets/tolerates it, especiallty here in the U.S. - but that really makes her more of a human rights activist than a hater.
Chaz| 6.13.10 @ 12:14AM
I find it very ironic that revolutionmuslim.com uses Paypal without incident while Pamela Geller is fending off such conflicts.
PayPal is no more than a Dhimmi party now. You are either with the enemy or for them, and PayPal now finds itself in the latter camp. Good riddance.
If you want alternatives, google for them.
reliapundit | 6.13.10 @ 12:29AM
i think paypal should reinstate geller or not allow use by any/all muslim sites since the koran/hadith/sura/islam is hate speech:
http://www.thereligionofpeace......n-Hate.htm
The Qur’an Says that People of Other Religions
are to be Violently Punished in This World
Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Qur'an is devoted to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)
Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73)
Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:
…He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33:34)
All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:
And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)
Those who resist Islam will be humiliated:
Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be among those most humiliated. (58:20 - The context for this verse is the eviction of the Jewish tribes of Medina and the confiscation of their wealth, land, and children by Muhammad).
Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah:
And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah… (8:39 – “Persecution” in this context means resistance to Islam – defined in the prior verse as an unwillingness to believe (see verse 38). This passage was “revealed” following a battle that Muhammad deliberately provoked. Verse 2:193 essentially says the same thing and was also “revealed” at a time when the Muslims were not under physical attack).
Non-Muslims are to be encroached on and pressured by the Muslims:
See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? (13:41 - See also 21:44)
And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things. (33:27, See also Bukhari 53:392)
Allah will grant Muslims authority and power over all other people:
Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion... (24:55)
(Muhammad's companions continued to self-fulfill this prophecy with an aggressive and senseless military expansion that left a trail of bodies from Spain to India).
Allah provides instructions to Muslims for dealing with unbelievers who are unwilling to accept Islamic rule:
Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (8:12-13)
Other verses of violence may be found here.
Remember that the Qur'an says that not all men are equal in Islam. This also applies to Muslims themselves with regard to their aggressiveness toward unbelievers. Those who kill or are killed on behalf of Islam are more pleasing to Allah:
Not equal are those of the believers who sit at home... and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives" (4:95)
http://carpediembc.blogspot.co.....peech.html
Should the Koran be defined as “hate speech” under Canada’s hate crime legislation? Does the Koran incite hatred and violence against identifiable groups? Muslim apologists and religious “moderates” would have us believe that Islam is a “religion of peace” and dismiss criticism as mere “Islamophobia”. Such arguments are ridiculous and display stunning ignorance of the hatred and incitement to violence that litters the Koran. The word ‘Islam’ is properly translated as ‘submission’ not ‘peace’. The only ‘peace’ Islam offers unbelievers, pagans and apostates is the peace that Hitler offered the French in 1940 – the ‘peace’ of abject slavery.
But is the Koran hate speech? Section 318 and 319 of the criminal code of Canada bans the incitement of hatred against an “identifiable group,” defined in s. 318 as “any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.”
“319. (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of” an offence.
Bearing this legal definition in mind lets see what the Koran actually says. Even a casual perusal reveals that the Koran is dripping with incitement of hatred and violence against Jews, Christians, pagans, women, atheists, apostates (former Muslims who have renounced the faith) and pretty well anyone else who is a non-Muslim. But don’t take my word, read from the Koran for yourself….
“This Book is not to be doubted. (2:1)
“Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. Surely Allah is mighty and wise. (4:56)
“Believers, do not choose the infidels rather than the faithful for your friends. (4:145)
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
“You will find that the most implacable of men in their enmity to the faithful are the Jews and pagans. (5:82)
“The Jews say: ‘Allah’s hand is chained.’ May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say! (5:64)
“Had the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] accepted the Faith, it would surely have been better for them. Some are true believers, but most of them are evil-doers. (3:111)
“Men have a status above women. (2:228)
“Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please. (2:224)
“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them, forsake them in beds apart, and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. surely Allah is high, supreme. (4:34)
“Do not befriend [apostates] until they have fled their homes in the cause of Allah. If they desert you, seize them and put them to death wherever you find them. (4:90)
“The true believers fight for the cause of Allah, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan. (4:76)
“Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers. (2:98)
“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. (9:123)
“Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you may dislike it. (2:216)
“The unbelievers are your inveterate foe. (4:101)
“Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed. (2:192)
“Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
Casually open a copy of the Koran and randomly flip pages – I dare you. The only thing saving Muslim Mullahs from prison under Canadian hate laws is section 319(3) of the criminal code, a clause that specifically exempts religion as a hate crime. However this exemption does nothing to mitigate the obvious conclusion that if not for 319(3) the Koran would constitute hate speech.
inspectorudy| 6.13.10 @ 12:29AM
I feel sorry for my country when its citizens can be hoodwinked into believing that Islam is a religion at all. It is a domintaing total life control. Those that believe that there are "Moderate" Muslims are hiding their heads in the sand. Sure they are moderate for now because their evil religion is in the minority here in the US, but as they gain more and more power they will emerge from their sleep and begin using their new found political power to get their way. They have stated in intercepted e-mails from their top leaders that the preferred method is to take over non violently but that violence is there if needed. Folks they have ONE goal and that is to take control of our country and its people through sharia law. If we submit, fine, if not we will be delt with.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:15AM
It's no better than Chinese, Soviet, Vietnamese, and N. Korean styles of communism.
Joanie| 6.13.10 @ 12:33PM
Islam = Fascism; no wonder Leftists love it.
PetalPusher| 6.13.10 @ 12:44AM
It's interesting that Paypal is on Jihadi sites who are actively soliciting donations to help wage war on the US and have anti-US bigoted rhetoric as well. I guess Jeff above and PayPal are in favor jihad hate against America. Good to know.
http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 3:21PM
So long as the hatred is directed towards non-Muslims everything is apparently just ducky with Paypal. That's what happens when you are afraid of and capitulate to violent MUSLIM terrorists. I'm sure this Paypal thing is a popular tactic of that f*cking terrorist organization CAIR. Do you know why the CAIR psychos are still around? Because we in the civilized world do NOT behead everyone who insults us.
http://sioe.files.wordpress.co.....london.jpg
But CAIR certainly should be investigated for criminal activity and disbanded. Its advocates like that stupid ass Ibrahim Hooper should be locked up for treason. What a traitor to Western civilization that despicable creep is. How does that vile character live with himself?
Omar| 6.13.10 @ 12:45AM
Laila:
Yes, everyone please do "check out" the Quran - just don't forget the non-apologetic stuff by Ibn Warraq, Andrew Bostom, Spencer, Bat Yeor, Wafa Sultan, Hirsi Ali, Nonie Darwish, etc. Once you've done that, a great deal about islam becomes blindingly, depressingly clear. In fact, here's an absolutely stellar exposition on the subject by Andrew McCarthy. He even discusses the "Ground Zero" mosque at one point (Btw, he agrees with Geller, and I think he may even have convinced his interviewer - no small feat considering it's Cspan) :
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/202806.php
mbabbitt| 6.13.10 @ 1:16AM
Here is where you find proof that the Orwellian 1984 warning was not heeded. I bet the idiots at Paypal would punish the citizens who fought the Nazis and their allies. These are the times that try mens souls.
SteveJ| 6.13.10 @ 1:27AM
Switch to gpal.net. It was originally set up for sportsmen and patriots who refused to abide by paypal's draconian rules their support of the America-haters.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 1:36AM
"1000 Errors and Mistakes in the Quran":
http://www.1000mistakes.com/10.....03_001_001
Laila| 6.14.10 @ 12:09AM
Written by ignorants who can't understand what they are reading! ALL of them explained away at:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:45AM
Get some sleep Dr. Laila. If you're really a doctor, that is. Doctor of lying.
Taxpayer| 6.14.10 @ 1:34PM
Where in Genesis does it say God created Jinn? I must have missed that chapter, along with the one where God created Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
mr logical| 6.13.10 @ 1:43AM
can the few muslim apologists answer me a couple of questions here? first, can you tell me how Christians are treated in muslim countries? Secondly, can you tell me how a war-mongering pedophile managed to get a 'religion' named after him? Please answer the questions point by point if you would, thanks much
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:36AM
**crickets**
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:40PM
He got a religion name after him, Mohammadism, by killing and terrorizing those who dared to speak the truth. By setting up a religion that justified conquest, pillage, and subjegation of other peaceful groups as a commandment from god. Of writing down a strategy for spreading a religion by the sword in which the ethical males of the conquired are murdered and the women turned into baby factories for generating more blind fanatic followers.
TacoBill| 6.13.10 @ 1:56AM
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-Martin Niemöller
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 12:47PM
They defended against the Nazis. ... and the left didn't speak up, and in fact praised the Nazis.
They defended against the Shinto Japanese Imperalists. Where were the leftists?
They defended against the non-voluntary Communists (not the voluntarist ones like Mennonites and the Amish), and the leftists took the wrong side.
They defended against the Muslims, and the leftists carried water for the wrong side.
....
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:40PM
Leftists are Nazis. Nazi = National SOCIALIST Party. Islam is Fascist.
ADHD| 6.13.10 @ 6:27PM
In fact, I'll dare say that Islâm is Communist - but then, Communism and Fascism/Nazism are 2 sides of the same coin!!
Liberal Reader| 6.13.10 @ 11:24PM
Exactly! Tyranny is the same regardless of the direction it comes.
TheMadKing| 6.13.10 @ 2:07AM
"Islamists behead three in the Philippines"
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/E......531257631
So, am I guilty of hate speech now? Sorry, PayPal. Already closed my account.
clairesolt| 6.13.10 @ 2:15AM
It is completely nuts and suicidal to keep giving Islamists a pass in the name of tolerance. It is much healthier to have hate and anger against people who declare war on and attack you.
Study the history and teachings of Islam, and quit spouting inanities based on ignorance.
Brian Mophtali| 6.13.10 @ 2:47AM
Indeed Islam is peace, tolerance and harmony, and if you have not red the Koran read it before you criticize. You'll be surprised to see how ignorant you are of many facts.
Geller should be not only losing her PayPal service privilege, but should be arrested and tried for inciting hate. That's the least what needs to be done to a racist hate monger!
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 3:38AM
I'll just repeat The MadKing's post:
"Islamists behead three in the Philippines"
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/E......531257631
Yet another shining example of Islam's "peace, tolerance, and harmony"--goes quite well with the two big pits that used to be the Twin Towers.
Anonymous| 6.13.10 @ 6:43AM
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-Martin Niemöller
Bohemond| 6.13.10 @ 9:07AM
"Geller should be not only losing her PayPal service privilege, but should be arrested and tried for inciting hate."
YOU need to spend the whole 30 seconds required to read the First Amendment to the Constitution.
You know, the same one which protects the Death Cult from prosecution.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 3:00PM
I read the Qur'an and it's arguably the most evil book every written. It's clear that you haven't read it for yourself, nor understood the evil therein. Perhaps you are evil and unaware of it.
No Muslima Slave| 6.13.10 @ 3:28PM
To Brian Mophtali:
I'll say it again: Shut up, you despicable lying sack of crap and traitor to human civilization. You are so demented and depraved YOU should be locked up in a psych ward. Islam is NOT a "religion of peace" and anyone who objects to this vile, women-enslaving CULT OF DEATH should be applauded.
Meanwhile, if you are an American YOU should be investigated for treason against the Constitution.
ISLAM IS NOT A RACE, you idiot. Anyone who supports Islam should be charged with bigotry against women and infidels.
And I HAVE read the Koran, you stupid ass - it's full of hatred and incitement of violence towards non-Muslims and women. So, stick it where the sun don't shine, moron.
Islam--Religon of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:42PM
Take care of yourself, No Slave--we need smart, truthful warriors like you. Gird your loins.
JimE| 6.14.10 @ 12:50AM
Brain M, Tours in Iraq and Afganistan showed me exactly the type of islamic tolerance you speak of. Napalm is the answer to islam.
Corporatist Capitalist | 6.13.10 @ 4:19AM
> On her popular Web site, Atlas Shrugs,
According to the Ayn Randians (and Rand Paulians), the PayPal corporation can discriminate against Ms. Geller however it wants.
So quit your whining.
PayPal's actions are simply conservatism and libertarianism in action.
By failing to start her own on-line payment service, and expecting "fairness" from PayPal, Ms. Geller is a disgrace to the principles of "Atlas Shrugs."
Bohemond| 6.13.10 @ 9:10AM
Sorry- a fundamental principle of Randian libetarianism is that free parties negotiate the terms of their economicf relationships through *contracts*, which become the operative law governing the parties. PayPal spells out its terms and conditions, and therefore cannot terminate an account without the contracting party violatiog them- Which Pamela Geller has NOT DONE.
T.Paine| 6.13.10 @ 5:24AM
Jeffie & Hossain-you're both dumbasses...go back down into Mommy & Daddys cellar where you both belong.
T.Paine| 6.13.10 @ 5:30AM
Brian...before you spout off about the Bible, you really should know what you're talking about-which you don't. Ignorance is bliss in your case. I have read the Koran and I know enough about islam to know that your prophet was a murdering thug...not to mention a pedophile.
Anonymous| 6.13.10 @ 6:33AM
But freedom, religion other than Islam and limited government are racist ideas, you know! F*ck PayPal, if they don't want to make money, it's their right to be dumb.
Richard L. Kent, Esq. | 6.13.10 @ 6:51AM
Well, Paypal sures' heck didn't care about my political views when it vaccumed money out of my account a fews months back without so much as a by-your-leave. Oh, they put the money back, sure, but still.
They need to quit targeting blog sites that they don't like and start paying attention to minor problems like, oh, banking fraud and theft carried out by their means.
1000yardsquint| 6.13.10 @ 7:09AM
One of two things is happening here: 1. The person at PayPal who sent Ms. Geller the warning is a dumb-ass bureaucrat who is "only following orders and company policy" or, 2. the complaint filed by the islamist has found a genuinely sympathetic ear at PayPal. Either way at least for the moment islamm's stealthy encroachment is advanced another inch or two. Sooner than later I believe, hope and pray that U.S. Citizens with common sense will get fed-up-to-here with this nitpickin' bureaucratic foolishness and put a stop to it all. I believe the islamists and the bureaucrats who support them are playing with a kind of fire of which they are unaware.
Anthony E. Parent | 6.13.10 @ 7:38AM
The 1099-K will probably end up killing paypal. Starting in 2011, the IRS will require paypal to issue a 1099-K to every paypal account holder who receives money --- so taxes must be paid on the gain or income, if any.. The compliance costs will, I think, for many smaller, hobbyist merchants and bloggers, create the need for a different type of exchange mechanism.
MQ| 6.13.10 @ 8:23AM
The author attempts to make a point without taking a stand, that is the problem.
Joanie| 6.13.10 @ 12:36PM
NO. The PROBLEM is Islam--the religion of HATE.
martin j smith| 6.13.10 @ 8:24AM
Number one: It is paypal that promotes hate becaause they are insinuating their own political agenda and arrogantly determining who may speak--that is violence against the first amendmen.Number two: The anti-semites and real hate monsers come out whenever there is a question critical of Radical Islam or related matters. And if Israel is involved the really really really hate mongsers come out.
Number three: If you can live without paypal--forget about them. But if you want to sue them and you get good legal support --by all means go for it. Take them to the cleaners.
Number 4: Those people who do not underst6and the views of 9/11 families and others who suffered from the attacks of Islamic Radicals are themselves in support of violence. Yes we have politicians like Mike Bloomberg who is nothing more than a panderer and will give anything to anybody to "keep the peace"--Give me Guiliani anytime.
Number five: If Islam were the religion of "peace" the for example Israel and and Palestinains would already have made a settlement long ago. And besides that when Moslims come to our Nation what are seeking // It is my impression that they are blending to our Society. Rather it is my impression that they tend to insulate themselves and make demands on our government for accommodation to them such as the Mosque at the 9/11 site. Lets say for example another Mayor say Giuliani were in chanrge and basically said : No this is not an apprpriate site for a Mosque. But, it is appropriate for an interfaith Center for Prayer,Contemplation,and mediation where all people can come a feel at home. How would the Muslim community respond. I would be there would rage and hostility you have never seen on our streets.
Also in our society everything is up for ridicule, sometimes in bad taste. Of course the bad aste is always in the eye of the beholder. Political and religious leaders are always mocked and criticized such as in political cartoons. But when Radical muslim leaders or beliefs are satirized this a excuse for threat of violence and threats on people's lives. Again the issue is to whom are Muslim's accommodating. themselves or the world they have chosen to live in ?
Religion of "peace"--no sir --It is the one religion where its followers in other nations invariable--around the world cause violence. Period.
Joanie| 6.13.10 @ 12:37PM
Great post!
Jeff Mayer| 6.13.10 @ 9:04AM
Everyone should write Meg Whitman's campaign site and ask her to take a stand on this. If enough people do this, Paypal will magically fix this problem.
Joanie| 6.13.10 @ 12:39PM
Great idea!
Palin endorsed Whitman for Governor--maybe she can help out here.
Jeff| 6.13.10 @ 9:10AM
This webpage has a variety of ways to make your displeasure known:
http://www.megwhitman.com/contact.php
Omar| 6.13.10 @ 10:21AM
Brian Mophtali said:
" . . . Indeed Islam is peace, tolerance and harmony . . ."
. . . And sex slaves and war booty and never ending war and theft and lying to non-muslims and violent supremacist imprecations and murder based martyrdom and wife beating and polygamy and Pedophelia (Q 65:4). . . .
All of which are now sacralised and practiced (legally) in many islamic countries.
Omar| 6.13.10 @ 10:32AM
Let me be more specific:
"All of which are now sacralised and practiced (legally) AGAINST NON-MUSLIMS in many islamic countries."
Oldefarte| 6.13.10 @ 10:41AM
As a huge fan of Pamela Geller's writings/work, let me remind/inform others that she has been leading a huge effort for the defense/support of Rifka Barry [the young Arabian teenager who fled to Florida to escape her parents' efforts to force the Muslim religion upon her after she converted to Christianity]. I hope that Pamela sues Pay Pal [and the US Justice Dept who are no doubt behind/supporting Pay Pal's threats against her]. Pamela is a big supporter of Sarah Palin also, so maybe one or both of them could/should contact Meg Whitman to get her to cease Pay Pal's POLITICAL CORRECT efforts against Pamela!!!!
Rickster| 6.13.10 @ 10:59AM
This is nothing new, I tried to get PayPal.com to stop accepting payments for US soldiers who were deserters like "Jeremy Hinzman" who were using the service to receive funds to help him remain in Canada and avoid prosecution.
Rickster| 6.13.10 @ 11:00AM
Of course they did nothing, they never replied to my requests or told me how he was not in violation.
martin j smith| 6.13.10 @ 11:11AM
Recall the bru ha ha around Rand Paul's comments ( distored as they were ) about the Civil Rights Ammendment. Now applying the idea to non-descrimination on Political grounds, this woud be an interesting case ( I admit I am not a lawyer. ). Never the less if one is going to go crazy around one form of hypothetical discrimination and yet, its OK for another--why I say look into what way would be best to bring this case to court.
The Fop| 6.13.10 @ 12:00PM
Name another religion that features something along the lines of "teqiya", where it is considered not only a right, but a duty for the religion's followers to lie and deceive non-followers. Name another religion that divides the world into two categories, the house of Islam and the house of war.
Islam is a cancer, death to Islam. I hope I live long enough to see the Al-Aksa mosque, sitting on the holiest site in the world, burn to the ground. G-d says those who curse the Jews will be cursed. Europe cursed the Jews, and now they've been cursed with a hateful, useless, growing Muslim population, which will destroy a once great culture. The Palestinians, because of their hatred towards the Jews, are the most wretched, cursed people on earth.
dude| 6.13.10 @ 12:31PM
Obviously a conservative/libertarian alternative is needed.
Fat Steve | 6.13.10 @ 5:15PM
Are you people kidding me?
You call yourselves 'conservatives'? 'libertarians'?
How dare you people tell a private company like PayPal who they can and can't do business with. This is truly nauseating socialist behavior and it just shows that Republicans can be Political Correctness Nazis just like Democrats.
Paypal has a right not to do business with people who make their business look bad! What don't you morons understand about that???? That is the conservative/libertarian pronicple, not the moronic drivel coming out of most on this page.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:46PM
Shut up, Fat Boy! Progressive Fascist Democrats like you kiss Muslim ass! You'll be among the first idiots they behead, moron.
James R.| 6.14.10 @ 12:56AM
Does RevolutionMuslim, (a notorious hate site, but a PalPay client in good standing) make PalPal look good?
It their HYPOCRISY that we are denouncing, in case you aren't perceptive enough to see that.
PayPal is free to do as they see fit, but why should they be immune from criticism of their policies?
dude| 6.13.10 @ 12:31PM
Obviously a conservative/libertarian alternative is needed.
gnut | 6.13.10 @ 1:26PM
http://www.google.com/search?&.....ctator.org
Your search - "michael clauer" site:spectator.org - did not match any documents.
Michael Clauer is an Army Captain who lost his home while he was serving in Iraq. He owed his HOA $800, and they foreclosed on his house, and sold it for $3,500 to collect the HOA dues, plus fines and fees (including the HOA's attorney fees). Since the home was worth $300,000 -- and fully paid for -- the Clauers lost $296,500.
Why is the American Spectator providing more support for Pam Geller's "plight" than it did for Captain Clauer's?
Both PayPal and the HOA are corporations who are enforcing the terms of their contracts -- regardless of how unfair it may seem.
Hal C| 6.14.10 @ 12:31PM
That's a little off topic, but it's certainly strange. As a former HOA officer in Georgia, that action would not have been legal in our state (although there have been some neighbors who really deserved it!). We could only file liens on the property which would have had to be resolved when the house was sold - or if it didn't sell and they continued to not pay - you took them to court.
Capt. Clauser's story, if true, is a very sad one, and I hope it gets resolved in a positive way.
Georgie| 6.14.10 @ 1:56PM
Geller DIDN'T engage in hate speech--so how is that PayPal fulfilling its terms of contract?
Moron.
Bill| 6.13.10 @ 2:10PM
I very rarely agree with Gellar's approach but this is total crap and I'm totally behind her on this one.
If I were to start a paypal donation sight for a blog calling for the end of advancing christianity and related trappings, quoting all sorts of Godly crap from Leviticus, Catholic child molesters, advancing "intelligent" design, and of course Fred Phelps, to back it up, I guarantee you that PayPal would tell the plaintiff to grow a thicker skin. Unless of course there was an implicit threat of violence or the plaintiff enjoyed a free-rider benefit from homicidal thugs -- as is the case here.
This just doesn't pass the Cinderella Test, if the shoe won't fit on the other foot, the complaint oughtn't fly. Hussain & Company, need to grow up like all the other religions of the world, look at what their "evangelical wing" are advocating and really start looking at what Paypal is being asked to underwrite on their behalf before chasing after Gellar.
The only reason they're targeting Gellar is because the religion she represents doesn't murder its critics for the crime of speaking their mind, and the one she criticizes does.
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 2:30PM
It's time to blow the horn on Meh Whitman. The specter of censorship will not help her run for Governor in California! Slam her on every web site you see until she turns it around. Censorship sucks!
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 2:31PM
Sorry, that's MEG. The h and g are next to one another.
Hal C| 6.14.10 @ 12:35PM
I don't think she's directly affiliated with Ebay anymore. She left her position as President and CEO in 2008 to run for public office.
butlerj| 6.13.10 @ 3:17PM
hossain,
"we are 2 Billion strong. Just watch out!!! "
You can only push people so far before they start to push back, and push back hard. Four words, Charles "The Hammer" Martel.
NoJizyaTax| 6.13.10 @ 3:55PM
Listen up! www.Revolution Muslim.com has a PayPal logo AND the following video - "O Nation of Muhammad!? (s.a.w.) part 1/4 and 2/4 where the speaker is CLEARLY calling for Muslims to engage in violence against the Danish people for insulting Islam. To save you from the pain of having to listen to it all, go to 7:00 thru 8:35 of the second video. This is clearly a call to violence. Flood PayPal with e-mails about it and don't forget to switch to gPay and, most importantly, let Meg Whitman (who is now running for CA Governor) know about the censorship.
Lan Astaslem| 6.13.10 @ 4:40PM
islam is it's own worst enemy.
LUKE| 6.13.10 @ 5:11PM
I see they have given up calling us who criticize islam racists, and now prefer the term "bigot". Whatever, it still wont stop people from seeing the evil and ugly truth about this twisted ideology of mysogeny and death, islam.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:48PM
Call us whatever they want--it beats being dead!!
Goerge| 6.13.10 @ 5:47PM
Having served in the military over 20 years and been to all the corners of the globe the most intolerant people on the planet are followers of Islam.
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 5:49PM
I can't imagine what it must be like to be a woman in that cesspool religion--I'll fight to the death before I wear a POS burka.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 7:03PM
Oh, I had to fight my family to the death to be allowed to wear my burka when I became devout! My father always let me wear a swimsuit to the beach back "home". And I swear there was no "fatwa" hanging over my head for wearing one!!!!!!!!!Nobody gave a damn what I wore! LOL.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 9:48PM
You killed your family so you could wear a burka?
And I would guess "back home" is Hollywood.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 10:18PM
There's no cure for your kind mental retardation!
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 11:06PM
I'm sure your family was quite relieved when you finally wore your burka--probably most of the male population, too.
"Back Home" is most likely an insane asylum.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 11:22PM
See you at the next Mensa meeting, honey.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 11:51PM
My, my, my....such hateful speech from someone so tolerant. Hypocrite.
Anonymous| 6.13.10 @ 6:59PM
Were you there serving in their countries to kill them? Because then I can understand their intolerance. When more than half a million Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children, die in the hunt for one man, I really wouldn't blame their intolerance of you, especially when videos are being leaked of multiple incidents like Abu Graib and US Pilots shooting intentionally at unarmed civilians!
Islam--Religion of Hate| 6.13.10 @ 11:09PM
Stop whining, loser. You slaughtered thousands of innocent Americans BEFORE the Iraq War.
Now what's your excuse?
Historyscoper | 6.13.10 @ 6:21PM
Keep up on the Islam v. West news:
http://historyscoper-islamwatch.blogspot.com/
Anonymous| 6.13.10 @ 6:55PM
Looking at the COMMENTS on this page, it's very easy to see WHO is full of hate and racism and xenophobia - and it's NOT the Muslims! I wonder what religion this amount of hate comes from?
Jeremiah| 6.13.10 @ 11:10PM
I think your bomb-belt is too tight, freak--it's cutting off blood flow to your tiny brain. Crawl back under the slimy rock you call home.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 1:08AM
Um - El Cid!
gsw| 6.14.10 @ 4:35AM
and again for those who failed to understand the first 10 million times:
ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.
Disliking a cult which kills you for having sex is not racism!
Despising misogynists is not xenophobia!
But hate? Yes, I can hate an ideology which allows little girls to be sold off to old men for sex.
Nate| 6.13.10 @ 8:09PM
I've known quite a few Muslims and found them to be warm, caring, respectful, cheerful, friendly people. I cannot sympathize with the anti-Muslim bigotry expressed on this thread. It's sad and stupid.
And the issue above is NOT a free speech issue. Freedom of speech refers to the limit set upon government, not Paypal.
If Paypal doesn't want to do business with this blogger, that's their right.
Of course, if any of you don't want to do business with Paypal, that's your right too. It's a free country.
I'm confident the vast majority of Americans -- conservative and liberal -- do not share the ghoulish hatred of Muslims expressed by some of the people on this thread.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 8:34PM
What is wrong with this picture: Someone loudly and openly and publicly declares he PLANS to rape my daughter and kill my husband because he doesn't like what they believe. Yet if I call the police or do anything else to protect my loved ones, I'M the bigot.
You FAIL, thugs and apologists. If you think I'm going to let you harm my loved ones or any of my fellow Americans in the name of YOUR intolerance, you have another thing coming. You might call it hate. I call it defending my rights, my country, and my loved ones.
Brian Macker| 6.13.10 @ 9:02PM
If Nate met and had coffee with some of those oh so civilized Nazis, listened to some Wagner with them then he'd be all for calling opponents to that evil philosophy bigots also.
So Nate, do you think someone who claims that an infallible deity says that Jews are only concerned with money is a bigot or not?
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 10:24PM
Thank you, Nate! I've lived here for over 14 years, and I have countless American friends that I am TRULY proud to call my friends. And I do agree with you that the ugliness expressed on this page does not represent the majority of Americans. These people can dwell in their hate until it consumes them. It is enough for me that every American non-Muslim who has made friends with me and got to know me and my family, devout as we are with my veil and hubby's beard, has always continued to keep in touch with us wherever we move, in a friendship that is too strong to be broken.
Drew| 6.13.10 @ 11:14PM
Nate is a Fascist Liberal--Laila's a Muslim Fascist; both are Nazis and pose a dire threat to our existence.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 11:47PM
If your religion is so tolerant and peaceful, then PROVE IT. Publicly denounce, condemn, and call for a stop to ALL Muslim attacks on non-Muslims.
Do it right here and now.
Laila| 6.13.10 @ 11:58PM
Done that a million times! By ordinary Muslims and religious leaders and organizations alike. Doesn't EVER get shown on your biased media!
“And if anyone of the nonbelievers seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allâh (the Qurân), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not” (the Holy Quran, 9:6).
“The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said, ‘Anyone who kills a non-Muslim person under protection (Arabic: thimmi) will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise” (Narrated in “Al-Awsat by Al-Tabarani”).
“The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: ‘Whoever hurts a non-Muslim person under protection, I am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Resurrection” (Narrated by Al-Khatib).
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:48AM
Laila is just another Nazi troll. Borrring.
Islam--the Religion of perversion
Taxpayer| 6.14.10 @ 3:23AM
Yeah, the operative words are "under protection"--under dhimmitude, slavery, ownership of the Muslim. All non-Muslims who are "under protection" of Islam are slaves. It's no different than being "under protection" of the Mafia.
Let's hear YOU, PERSONALLY, with YOUR OWN WORDS, condemn the violence against non-Muslims. For example, the recent beheading of 3 people in the Philippines by Islamists. Let's see you condemn that action here, now, you personally, in your own words. No quotes from the Quran. You in your position as tolerant, peaceful Muslim. Let's hear it.
We're waiting.
Libs R Losers| 6.14.10 @ 3:41AM
Just don't hold your breath while you wait, Taxpayer--Laila lies.
Taxpayer| 6.15.10 @ 12:27AM
**crickets**
Yeah, I thought so. Too cowardly to condemn the murderousness of your fellow Muslims.
Nate| 6.20.10 @ 3:46PM
Could never match the sheer savagery of Muslim hatred and violence toward others.
Islam is the Religion of hate.
The Infidel Alliance| 6.14.10 @ 12:37AM
Dear 'Nate',
You are confusing hate of Muslims with revulsion of Islam.
We don't hate Muslims, because we know they are denied the basic human rights of freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, and most importantly the freedom to love their fellow non-Muslim. They are trapped by Muhammeds cruel catch-22: death for the apostate Muslim.
In spite of the centuries of Islamic savagery inflicted upon the 'infidel' world, the Jews, the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Catholics, the Zoroastrians, the Baha'i, the Protestants, the Copts, the Chaldeans, the Armenians, the animists, the pagans, women, and homosexuals, most of us understand that the biggest victim of Islam are Muslims themselves.
We don't hate Muslims - they are just people trapped in a brutal system of submission. We do, however, detest Islam and Muhammed, the greatest and most vile frauds ever perpetrated upon humanity.
~ The Infidel Alliance
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 1:09AM
Um - El Cid!
Philosophe101| 6.13.10 @ 8:47PM
Good Evening.
I have read the comments of this page and was quite entertained. Obviously, PayPal is afraid of pissed-off Muslims, yet is not afraid of pissed-off non-Muslims.
I have a problem with Islam because I believe in a separation of church and state.
There should be freedom of speech, but when the speech limits freedom, for example, threatening someone, it does not belong in a free country.
In the same way, if a religion threatens freedom, such as Islam which has its own system of law and violates the separation of church & state, it does not belong in a free country.
When a Muslim wants to immigrate to a free country, they should be asked if they believe in Islamic Law. Any Muslim who wants Islamic Law should not be allowed into a free country.
The problem is, a devout Muslim must believe in Islamic Law. Those who would enter would either be lying, or not true Muslims.
As for the Islamic world, they can have their Islamic Law all they want. In 100 years, history will remember how they treated non-Muslims and women, and it will look just as barbaric as anything Christianity did hundreds of years ago. It will be a stain worse than Christianity's because not only did Christianity mature as Islam stayed primitive, but the world will quote Mohamed vs Jesus and see that Islam was a religion that threatened freedom and progress. Notice I said "was."
Mike Gill| 6.13.10 @ 9:39PM
Drop paypal they don't want our business. Go to gpay.net and sign up.
Mike Gill
Philip Cohen| 6.13.10 @ 10:15PM
Draft Media Release—Confidential
It is with very great sadness that John Donahoe (aka ‘Peter Principle’—among many other things), eBay’s Chief Headless Turkey, announced the probable demise of eBay’s most ugly daughter, PayPal. PayPal is about to be stricken by particularly virulent strains of Visa+CyberSource and the Mastercard open platform, along with insurmountable financial institutions complications and much PayPal user/merchant dissatisfaction. PayPal’s health may therefore be expected to deteriorate and, if ultimately not completely incapacitated, will most likely be eventually confined to what little there is by then left of the Donahoe-devastated eBay Marketplaces. There is no cure for this condition, and the “eBafia Don” is particularly saddened by the inevitable presumption that it is unlikely that PayPal will be able to continue to underpin eBay’s bottom line in the future.
A detailed examination of and prognosis for PayPal (including the “PayPal Nightmare Tour”) at
http://www.auctionbytes.com/fo.....?p=6504554
Wally| 6.13.10 @ 11:21PM
Idiot homos like you will be the first to be beheaded, moron.
Ahmad| 6.13.10 @ 11:14PM
Islam is at the END, DYING
Wally| 6.13.10 @ 11:20PM
Works for me--how can we help it get there sooner?
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 11:41PM
Stand up to the killers and their apologists.
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:49AM
Already doing that--Anything else?
Yosemeti Sam| 6.13.10 @ 11:33PM
Um, Ebay owns Paypal.
Ms. Whitman, Mexfornia gubernatorial GOP candidate - what say you to Paypals' quashing
of 1st Amendment rights of a non-jihadist website?
Step up lady - and be on record!
And no mealy-mouth response fit for politics - IOW something trenchant!
BTW, folks - I have no relatives named Sam as
first name or surname.
And that Mao Zoo Dung White House Christmas tree ornament - a repeated call to its' whereabouts.
Taxpayer| 6.13.10 @ 11:40PM
Do you apologists REALLY believe that you'll get a pass just because you professed "tolerance"?
Just listen to what they say about the "infidels." They make no discrimination between apologists and the rest of us who refuse to submit. We are all to die, according to their very public plans.
The Nazis used the "undesirable" non-Aryans. Once in power, Nazis betrayed and/or killed them. If you have any doubt, just ask a Russian. The Islamofascists learned much from their Nazi pals. Or should I say the Nazis learned from Mohammad. These kinds of vicious betrayals are highly recommended in the Koran.
There will be no exception made for you, apologists. You can feed the alligator, but he WILL eventually eat YOU.
Juggler| 6.13.10 @ 11:42PM
Call Pal-Pal & let them know how you feel (402) 935 2050. Ask them why they claim "Atlas Shrugs" is a hate site but Revolution Muslim isn't? Revolution Muslim threatened the south park writer's lives, while Atlas Shrugs tries to save young women who are about to face honor killings in the US.
Juggler| 6.14.10 @ 12:04AM
Follow Up!
Just found a toll free # for Pay-Pal 1-888-221 1161
Let's make sure their phones are ringing off the hook on Monday! Do not let the intimidation of Freedom Of Speech go unchallenged.
The Infidel Alliance| 6.14.10 @ 12:16AM
We have to wonder if PayPal actually reads 'Atlas Shrugs', or are they simply responding to anonymous complaints. For those of us who actually read it, we know it is FACT mongering, not hate mongering.
"Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments for items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance or the financial exploitation of a crime."
OK...then by these standards PayPal must immediately ban all things Islamic as they are rooted in the Koran, the Ahadith, the teachings and examples of the sociopathic 'prophet' Muhammed, and the intolerant sexist barbaric Sharia law.
I'm cancelling my PayPal account immediately.
~The Infidel Alliance
Wally| 6.14.10 @ 12:51AM
Hit 'em in the nuts!! Cut off the money supply to PayPal--it always works.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 1:11AM
Um - El Cid.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:25AM
Visited the Atlas Shrugs website.
Eye-opener!
Viewed the photos of Nazis and a Muslim bigshit in a get-together.
Hmmmm.
What pray tell was on their Satanic minds?
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:30AM
Um - El Cid.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:33AM
November can not come soon enough!
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:37AM
Listen up AS - I made a typo on my email address and still my post was accepted.
What's up with that?
You got ANY controls?
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:42AM
Hmmmmm.
I wonder if AS is - perhaps flypaper to conservatives?
Cause the webmaster seems out to lunch on the basics of secure methods of posters' IDs validation!
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:45AM
Muslims - El Cid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:48AM
El Rushbo - hope you had a jolly time.
Now back to work further exposing Baraloney Huinsane Obamski.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:51AM
Did I mention that Mao Zoo Dung White House Christmas tree ornament?
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:54AM
Um - I live in Australia.
Come and get me - copper!
LOL.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 2:58AM
And now a word from our sponsors.
LOL.
Taxpayer| 6.14.10 @ 3:25AM
Geez, Yosemeti, I hope you're having fun entertaining yourself.
And BTW, it's spelled Yosemite. (wink)
GOD BLESS AMERICA!| 6.14.10 @ 3:44AM
YS lives in Wyoming--go figure.
Must be boring there tonight. :)
Yosemeti Sam| 6.14.10 @ 10:32PM
Yosemeti.
Or - Yo semite contracted to Yosemite.
My avatar-like 'handle' was carefully considered.
Thanks though for the attention to the spelling :)
Otherwise, yes I did somewhat regale myself with
a pertinent string of posts.
Cheers
REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!| 6.15.10 @ 1:16AM
String of posts? Surely.
Pertinent? Not so much, YS.
Yosemeti Sam| 6.15.10 @ 1:30AM
Throw a bone of - specificity.
I shall return.
PALIN 2012| 6.15.10 @ 1:35PM
Is that a promise or a threat, Mr. YS?
Yosemeti Sam| 6.15.10 @ 11:09PM
Um, should I have averred - I'll be back?
PALIN 2012| 6.18.10 @ 8:07PM
Sounds like a threat to me! But, that's okay--I like you.
infidel| 6.14.10 @ 4:26AM
Geller is not to be trusted, below is a link where she accuses moslems of beheading people, but the truth is, six of the photos are of Madurese (muslims) who have been beheaded by Dayaks.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.....ad_i.html.
Taxpayer| 6.14.10 @ 1:28PM
Yeah, and Daniel Pearl was beheaded by Martians.
infidel| 6.14.10 @ 5:06AM
Another lie from Geller
EDL MEMBER STABBED, ANOTHER ATTACKED BY MUSLIM WITH BROKEN BOTTLE
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.....ested.html
The person who got stabbed was an EDL steward, and the culprit was not a moslem, but another EDL member
Not only that she is telling a whopping porkie about the stabbing. There is a very good reason why the EDL are trying to hush this up, as you will see from this report,
casualsunited @ 2:18 pm
Muslims have tried to attack the demo and are wrecking the town centre Christian aid shop had been smashed
casualsunited @ 2:31 pm
EDL Steward stabbed in neck by UAF
Police twitter EDL Dudley @ 3:40 pm
Police at the EDL venue quickly restored calm after a brief outbreak of disorder among protesters at around 3.20pm. Officers dealt with sporadic incidents within the protest group after barriers were knocked over. Meanwhile a seventh person has been arrested, for possession of an offensive weapon. Correction – the Steward was not stabbed but bottled in the neck by a Wolves lad who;s name is known – he will be expelled
http://casualsunited.wordpress.....e-twitter/
martin j smith| 6.14.10 @ 8:11AM
I have a suggestion: Do not use Paypal--certainly not if you oppose their position on limiting free speech. If as some say they, as a private company have a right to pick and choose their customers, the it is logical that customers have an equal right to stop doing business with Pay
pal. In actual fact this is a reverse boycott so I suggest giving them a real one. I would also say to spread the word around the NET about their policies and conduct. And, in advertisements as well. Make sure everything yom say is factual but people do have power. I would also say that if someone has the rescources to sue Paypal do so.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.14.10 @ 10:40AM
T.E.A.M. America has closed it's account with Pay Pal. (www.myteamamerica.org )
Donors, please give us a few days to establish another secure donation account.
Thank you
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.14.10 @ 10:42AM
Please Excuse me! heh
Our actual website is www.myteamusa.org
tuffy| 6.14.10 @ 12:19PM
The "hate speech" sword is double edged, and the likes of Charles Johnson (who is hailing Paypal's actions as heroic) may be next. And that goes for EVERY other blogger who depends on Paypal's monopoly to generate funds. Ms. Gellar is the canary in the coal mine.
gast| 6.14.10 @ 12:37PM
I PHUCK I`SLAM !!!
WRosencratz| 6.14.10 @ 9:36PM
PayPal is a company. They have a right to decide who uses their product. If they don't wish to do business with sites that promote hate or intolerance, that's their choice.
As a Jew, I support the Islamification of America. We don't want them in Israel so you can have them here.
Nobubba| 6.15.10 @ 1:14AM
Snort! You're no Jew--you would have been beheaded long ago.
nannasc| 6.14.10 @ 10:46PM
Looks like a business opportunity waiting to happen - someone needs to start up competition to Pay Pal & advertise to all conservative sites. Bet it would take off.
James| 6.15.10 @ 3:20AM
There's really no such thing as free speech or that of assembly in this country, because once an individual begins to have any effect against the politically correct powers that be, those powers mobilize against them just as they are here.
REMEMBER NOVEMBER!| 6.15.10 @ 1:37PM
I guess we should all give up and kill ourselves then.
Grow a pair--please!
Bryan| 6.15.10 @ 12:18PM
I would guess Pam Gellar is part of the controlled opposition. I believe this because if she were genuine, she would point out the role Jews have played in directing immigration in favor of non-Europeans (e.g. Muslims).
Here is the proof: Google "Jewish Involvement In Shaping American Immigration Policy" by Professor Kevin MacDonald
Nobama| 6.15.10 @ 1:38PM
Buzz off, troll.
Bryan| 6.15.10 @ 2:20PM
Do the words FO mean anything to you?
Nobama| 6.18.10 @ 8:08PM
Right back at you, Ahole!
David Still| 6.18.10 @ 2:49PM
Friends, lovers of peace, I have a simple
way of viewing all these matters:
BEWARE OF ALL PEOPLE WHO WEAR FUNNY HATS...they are fools, fanatics, loonies, potential harm doers.
exception: baseball caps and cowboy hats, used to block sun from eyes are exempt.
Nobama| 6.18.10 @ 8:09PM
LOL!
Nate| 6.20.10 @ 3:49PM
Could never begin to match the sheer savagery of Muslim hatred and violence toward others, especially women.
Sorry--we'll never bend.
Jamie W.| 6.21.10 @ 10:05AM
I WISH I could get rid of Paypal after this one - but I'm a freelance writer and most of my clients require it to pay me. At least I don't ever leave money in the account for them to make more money from.
OMG. I really don't believe they did this.
Bigmo| 6.22.10 @ 5:25AM
Its true. Jewish groups were fighting for almost 40 years for mass immigration to the US and its the main reason why White Nationalist like David Duke left Blacks and started worring about Jews. . The 1965 immigration act which ended White favored immigration and opened the flood gates of non Whites to America was PURELY a JEWISH lobbying effort.
Many Jews felt that its safer for Jews to live in a pluralistic society. Fair enough.
But want Israel homogenious. Not fair enough. You should follow what you preach.
Bryan was right. Read Dr Kevin Macdonald and see why the ADL and $PLC hate him. Because he researched and found out that mass immigration of non Whites was purely a Jewish affair.
Not that I care. I just hate the hypocrisy of it.
ritikaa | 9.24.10 @ 5:09AM
Yes, you are very much right, you cannot open a PayPal account for Charity, if your charity is registered in India, same thing happened with me also, I applied a Charity account for my client and after completing all the formalities they just denied for the account.
I have a suggestion for you, apply for a normal account with some other website and then use it for your Charity website, I have list of websites who are doing the same thing.
You can also try some other Payment Gateways like CCavenue, but in case you are using Vbulletin script, I don’t think so that it may help you. The first suggestion may work for you.
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