The American Spectator : The Spectacle Blog : Rand Paul and Israel

WendyG| 4.22.10 @ 11:41AM

Smart move. Hope he means it, and he's not just pandering.

So how long before the Ron Paulites show up to spam this thread and defend their leader?

Carlos| 4.22.10 @ 2:20PM

I hope he's pandering and doesn't mean it. It's time Americans face the facts that Israeli Zionists control the US Foreign policy. We need to get these Zionist hooks out of this country. Israel did 911. http://theinfounderground.com/.....amp;t=5367

Vast| 4.22.10 @ 2:50PM

Isreal did not kill 1000s of Americans. You conspiracy guys need to take a deep breadth and step away from the 'insider knowledge' websites.

Government is Incompetent and they cant keep secret renditions or interogation techniques quiet. There is no way they could have got away with gigantic mass murdering conspiracies.

It would have been 100 times easier to plant chemical weapons in Iraq and as you know we did not find any.

You guys pop up every time there is a constitutional anti special interest candidate because you believe they will not be in the Tank for whatever group you think is controlling the government.

Here is some helpful advise. You are NOT HELPING the constitutional candidates win.

If you need it to be in conspiracy terms, try this out. Maybe the sites you visit with this 'special info' are actually created by the 'New World Order' in order to recruit gullible people so that followers of Constitutional candidates can be labeled as NUTS.

Mihail| 4.26.10 @ 3:50AM

And you are very stupid,of course the Synagogue of Satan din 9/11,fake jews,Khazars,impostors,Revelation 2:9,3:9
Ex-Italian President Says 911 an Inside Job

by James Buchanan

An ex-president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga. has told the respected Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that “the disastrous (911) attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

This is truly outstanding news! This statement supports the suspicions of the 911 truth movement, which rejected the “official” 911 explanation from the government long ago. Most people –once they study the facts and details of the World Trade Center collapse– immediately become suspicious about the government account. Why did the World Trade Center 7 building collapse –even though it had NOT been hit by an airplane? How did a film crew of MOSSAD agents know in advance that the WTC buildings would be attacked? Why were there Israeli art students/spies in the same towns as the 911 hijackers? Why did our government set free these Israelis who obviously KNEW something important about 911 while we later filled up Guantanamo with Afghani goat herders, who knew as much about 911 as their goats?
http://www.davidduke.com/gener.....17217.html

MAD JEWESS | 5.27.10 @ 11:03PM

Mihail,
I like that LOL!!! David Duke is your mind master! HA! HE HATES ANYONE THAT IS NOT WHITE you stupid MORON!
Too funny!!
Typical Moslem...

Catmann| 8.20.10 @ 11:27AM

The notion that 9/11 is a product of a collaboration between Mossad and the CIA is so absurd it is a wonder that that it gets any press at all. Bin Laden has owned up to this travesty. Jew haters like you promulgate this nonsense in support of their fetid and bigoted fantasies. Perhaps you should seek the services of a private brain care specialist.

dan| 5.21.10 @ 1:35AM

well Isreal did the USS Liberty in
all this from Official US documentation too hay...

hmmm ...so did isreal attacked the US yet again?

MJ | 10.13.11 @ 1:22PM

well Isreal did the USS Liberty in

Just wth was America doing in the middle of THAT war?
Huh?
If Israel came into OUR waters, and were NOT an ally (we were not allies with Israel until 1976) we would shoot them down.
You are just a Jew hating, Christian hating jacka$$.

Matthew| 5.21.10 @ 1:58AM

What about the Israeli Lavon affair and the USS Liberty incident.... I think a lot of people are suspicious of Israel, and especially the Mossad because of these past events. If they have planned, and admitted to carrying out false flag operations, why would they not do it again?

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:17AM

Wrong. Why not take the time to actually check into this, instead of writing it off as 'conspiracy kook' stuff. All you did was take the word of the talking heads on your television to get your truth on what happened that day. Those ppl all lied. So why not do your duty, since you have so much to say about it, and look into it for yourself.
You might just see that a monkey can figure out what went on there.
Google israel did 9/11. Sit back, read the page, and become informed on the situation.

maz | 5.21.10 @ 3:15PM

@Vast

You say that Israel didn't kill 1000's of Americans on 9/11, but they did sneak-attack the USS Liberty and kill 34 American sailors, so it is entirely possible that they would plot to kill 1000's of Americans to get America into an endless Middle East conflict on their behalf.

MAD JEWESS | 5.27.10 @ 10:59PM

O-M-G! WHAHHHHHHHHHHHH, Rand Paul is a supporter of the PEOPLE of Israel, whahaaaaaaaaaaa, lets all have a nervous breakdown.
At least he has enough sense not to support American leftist Jews that voted Hussein Obama.
MAZ: Israel 'sneak attack' in 1967? HORSE RUBBISH.
We were not allies with Israel in 67, we didnt become allies with Israel until 1973. In 1976, the Peace Treaty with Egypt cost us stupid Americans 2.7 billion a year to Egypt AND Israel- go look it up, nitwit.
We are isolated, and Israel is isolated, isn't that what you moonbats wanted?

Stealth| 7.23.10 @ 1:14PM

The Israelis just shot an unarmed American five times in the back of the head during the flotilla raid, and the American government, instead of declaring an act of war (this took place in international waters), they apologized for this man being on the frigging boat.

Oh yea, Rand Paul does not speak for me when it comes to our "special relationship" with Israel. Israel is a clingy bitch that doesn't go away when the relationship is over.

Atticus Finch| 10.26.10 @ 5:01PM

Stealth, your "american citizen" who got shot on the mavi mara was a Turk whose family, rather than be in America decided to move back to Turkey. The ship that turned out to be an armed camp of terrorists prepared for jihad was not a "peacenik" cruise. They were prepared to start violence. They attacked the Israelis (who came on board armed with [oooo] paint ball guns) with bats, iron rods, knives and guns.

I have a great idea: why don't you move to flipping Iran?

Lysander| 5.21.10 @ 10:50PM

No one who has looked at the evidence can doubt that 9/11 was a controlled demolition. How else do you get nano-sized military grade thermite in the 9/11 dust? And only Israel benefitted from 9/11. It was not the first time we were attacked by "our friend and ally." There was the Lavon Affair in Eqypt, the assassination of JFK, the attempted assassination of George Bush, and their attack on and nearly sinking of our ship, the USS Liberty. For Rand Paul to suggest that Americans have common values with these terrorist criminals is an insult to every American.

joelsk44039| 5.22.10 @ 10:13AM

Do you actually have any idea how much preparation must be done in advance for a "controlled demolition?" Support beams and posts must be weakened throughout the structure being imploded. Don't you think that the people working in the WTC would have noticed large numbers of "workers" systematically removing ceiling tiles and cutting beams and columns for a long time in advance of the actual date of destruction?

You're an absolute idiot!!

kibitzer | 5.23.10 @ 6:02PM

Keep reading on the matter, joelsk44039. There are eyewitness/employee reports that the buildings were 'down' - off limits - on some weekends before 9/11, ostensibly for some security upgrading or other, when the CCTV cameras were down as well. So there is no telling what all went on in the buildings pre-9/11.

And why would Silverstein buy the buildings, when the word has leaked that they were going to have to go through a major renovation for asbestos removal, that could cost more than they were worth? And who was in charge of security in the buildings anyway?? And of the security at the airports involved in this whole caper???

Rand Paul should have a quiet sit-down with his father, and find out a little more about life in our times. He would also do well to read 'By Way of Deception' and/or 'The Other Side of Deception' by ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky. And he would come to know that things are seldom what they seem.

James| 7.24.10 @ 8:01AM

You ninny, if it would take all thses preperations to do a controlled demolition then what are the chances of not 1, not 2 but 3 buildings falling in a controlled demolition manner within minutes or hours of each other. Your own argument works against you dipshit.

Atticus Finch| 10.26.10 @ 5:10PM

This "controlled" explosion is just so much nonsense it has me on the verge of losing my lunch.

Israel benefitted from 9/11 . . . are you insane? Israel has been on the front line of the Muslim war against the West since 1948. The JFK assassination was run out of Castro's villa in Havana as pay back for Bay of Pigs and US actions in the Cuban Missile Crisis - criminy, don't you anti-Semites know anything about American History? And now you want to add the attempted hit on GHWB? That's amusing. If GWB thought the hit on his dad had originated in Jerusalem, he would not have been the friend to Israel that he was during the 8 years of his administration. The other Hussein, Saddam, had bragged about that attempt. That, more than WMDs or any other bullschmidt, was the reason W fought the second gulf war, toppled Saddam and made sure he swung from his neck at the end of a rope! Man, you leftists will stop at nothing to blame Jews for all of the ills in the world. Give me a break.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 11:01PM

"Government is Incompetent and they cant keep secret renditions or interogation techniques quiet. There is no way they could have got away with gigantic mass murdering conspiracies. "

Really? The Manhattan Project, ever hear of it? "Killed a few" in Nagasaki and Hiroshima....you knew about it ahead of time, did ya? Naw, secrets can't be kept...fool.

If you want me to believe bin-laden could plan an attack from a cave in Afghanistan and have it come off with MILITARY PRECISION but also want me to believe our military could not "keep a secret" you are the buffoon. Not me.

Tony| 8.15.10 @ 11:13AM

They didn't get away with it, everyone knows about it and they are currently building a massive domestic police state to stop the coming rebellion. Wake up son.

Cliff| 4.22.10 @ 3:47PM

Thank you Carlos, for giving us such a vivid example of why we should NOT support Rand Paul, because at the end of the day, anti-Semitic, conspiracy theory kooks like you back him.

And that is MORE then a good enough reason to support Grayson.

Simon| 4.22.10 @ 6:25PM

As an Israeli who made aliyah from the USA about 15 years ago, I'd say there is far less in common between the two countries that people think.

I say Israel is socially about 50 years behind the US. It has yet to go through its civil rights movement to acknowledge its Arab citizens as human beings. Even in the more liberal places like Ramat Gan I encounted a lot of anti-Palestinian racism. When I met Palestinians, however, most seemed to be pretty normal people who feel victimized in a land which they would have otherwise owned.

So basically all I'm saying is that the US-Israeli 'special' relationship is contrived. People just band that term around without any meaning.

Nobama| 4.22.10 @ 6:44PM

Self-hatred much, Simon? Do you live in Israel? If you do and we stop supporting your country, life could get "interesting" for you in the future.

I wonder if you'll feel the same way then. You're either stupid or you're a liar; perhaps both.

Simon| 4.22.10 @ 7:40PM

"Self-hatred"? Ha, that's a cute phrase isn't it. Usually a good indicator of where someone is intellectually when it comes to Israel.

It may well get interesting for me were the USA to stop funding Israel. However, there is a growing sentiment among some here that the funding is detrimental in the long run. Thanks to the funding, Israel is now practically a welfare recipient. We're completely dependent on aid in many areas.

If you talk to people on the street in Ramat Haviv in Haifa (where I lived for some time) about the nation's finances, people generally recoil. Many are very uneasy about the support, and don't want to be reminded of it. Its a self-esteem issue really.

Ask a settler in Itamar deep in the West Bank however, and they really appreciate the support as it basically subsidizes them to take Palestinian land.

Nobama| 4.23.10 @ 1:21PM

Then get off your butt and go to work, loser. Quit living on the dole!

Stop whining, it's annoying.

Manu| 5.21.10 @ 2:34AM

Hey nobama, do you care about the truth or you wanna remain in your little fantasy world where israel does it all perfectly? someone from there is telling it to your face so why don´t you shut up and listen.

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:15AM

Thank you Manu! For saying what I hope many are thinking.

Occam's Tool| 7.14.10 @ 12:19PM

Simon:

did you serve your time in the IDF? If you did, you've got the right to be a moonbat. If not, then you lived in Israel defended by the blood, sweat and tears of your countrymen while contributing nothing to the general welfare.

MAD JEWESS | 5.27.10 @ 11:06PM

Sure GLAD that you are in Israel, SIMON. The way you talk, you would be opposed to the AZ law, THANK GOD YOU LIBERAL JEWS MOVE OUT OF AMERICA, please- please BEG your stupid Liberal Jewish soul assassins to MOVE THERE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

james| 7.24.10 @ 8:07AM

Where are you living Simon, or in other words, who did the people before you in that shitty little state kick out or killed to give you your apartment/house or whatever.
If you are for real, leave that place becasue you are living on stolen property paid for by idiotic Americans and Europeans.

Hammer| 11.11.10 @ 4:49PM

If the US becomes a home to countless of Muslims you would give them the same rights as Americans .Knowing that they will use you sense of fair play to destroy America.You would give them Sharia law.

Hammer| 11.11.10 @ 4:49PM

If the US becomes a home to countless of Muslims you would give them the same rights as Americans .Knowing that they will use you sense of fair play to destroy America.You would give them Sharia law.

Carlos| 4.23.10 @ 1:31PM

I don't support Rand Paul at all. I'm leaning towards Conway for this one.

Bill| 5.21.10 @ 9:55AM

Youre Anti Gentile, and Anti Christian, Mr Cliff

You love Israel, move there

Get the Hell out of America.

Theres only room for 1 loyalty here.

Zios need not apply

MAD JEWESS | 5.27.10 @ 11:10PM

BILL:
God does not like the way you hate Israel. Israel, for the most part is right wing, you attack the wrong people thats why NOBODY really takes you Jew hating nutz serious.
You attack Christians and right wing patriotic Jews--you'll pay in the end. People can support PEOPLE in other nations with MORAL support, I notice you JEW HATERS love white EU countries, and I dont give a rats a$$ if you do- so stay OUT of my business, you NAZI.

Psalms 129:5

ה יֵבֹשׁוּ, וְיִסֹּגוּ אָחוֹר-- כֹּל, שֹׂנְאֵי צִיּוֹן. 5

Let them be ashamed and turned backward, all they that hate Zion.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:26PM

Only since Webster's dictionary changed the definition of "anti-semitism" from anti-Jewish to include anti-Zionist (changed in 2001, "weird coincidence", eh?) is it not "polite" to point out the obvious: TOO MANY DAMN ZIONIST ISREALI SUPPORTERS IN MY GOVERNMENT, PERIOD!!!!! JEWS or Christians, both make me ILL.

I will remind you it was George herbert walker Bush who fought to get ZIONISM removed from the UN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION list.

Rand Paul supports TERRORISM AGAINST MY COUNTRY IF HE SUPPORTS LIKUD.

Fuck him.

MAD JEWESS | 5.27.10 @ 11:12PM

Farang, what a jacka$$. This is the MOST Anti-Israel admin EVER.
What a total baffoon you are.

Lenora Meyers| 11.1.10 @ 9:24AM

Carlos knows a thing or two. All of us want to know: How Long Must Hard Working Americans continue to be drained by Israeli wars on the Arabs.

Mark| 4.23.10 @ 10:24AM

I think his position paper contradicts his statement on youtube http://dailypaul.com/node/130166

Jake| 5.21.10 @ 9:07AM

Thanks for the link info Mark. You made a good point. these cointel-pro guys and trolls are out in force on this article of lies. Your point makes it clear these allegations about Rand are false and the American people are starting to see through the lies. these trolls and the establishment are very scared of Rand and rightfully so. I am sure these shill useful idiots are either clueless or know they are literally trying to tear apart the fabric of freedom by supporting establishment and anti-American views and lies. Get a grip you idiots, you will look back on this time when America needs good men and you screwed it up but supporting these clowns that are stealing your future. You may not realize it until your a.ss is in the middle of civil unrest and your family is starving. Its a shame, you idiots are not part of this NWO top tier elite power structure, so what do you think you will gain? you fools will not receive any award for being in denial or supporting the corrupt establishment and you will suffer along with all of us if we continue to destroy the constitution.

Good Goy | 5.22.10 @ 5:36PM

The apple has fallen a long way from the tree. Looks like "Rand" is definitely bought and paid for by Israel. They have him "under control". Maybe money, maybe prostitutes, who knows.

Too bad it's not always "like father - like son".

Mike| 5.21.10 @ 7:50AM

I supported his father, but this is sad. Maybe he thinks he has to lick the boots of these mass murdering, land stealing zionest Jews? Nobody is perfect and Rand just showed it with this disgusting "speech"

Noah| 5.21.10 @ 11:03AM

This position paper is odd and conflicts with the actual answer he gave to questions about Israel:
http://dailypaul.com/node/130166

He would work for America's interests, even if they conflict with Israel.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:29PM

His bootlicking of Zionist Likud terrorists is what keeps him from the msm sharks completely eating him alive with negative PR: he supports Israel, so do they. So he is "allowed" to stick around while they figure out how to neuter him. Looks like they have a good start already....

true| 5.21.10 @ 1:36PM

I agree, Israel did 9 11, and the problem is, you have senators with dual citizenships in government. Israeli's should NOT be in our government. Those bastards committed 9 11 and the US should drop a nuke on them for the attacks they committed on uss cole, uss liberty, and the twin towers. For those that say Israel didnt do it, I BET they are Israeli.
There time is coming

Robert Fallin| 5.22.10 @ 5:48PM

Rand Paul's a traitor to the movement. Ever read Washington's Farewell Address? I've been a strong supporter of Ron Paul, but I will do everything I can to ensure Rand Paul's defeat.

Javier R.| 5.22.10 @ 5:51PM

I think the only spam is your uselsss post. I will say this as a proud Paulite, Klein failed to mention a little know fact about Ron Paul. When Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear faciltiy in Osirak back in 1981 Ron Paul was only a handful of Congressman who voted in DEFENSE of Israel when the entire world and even Reagan hung Israel out to dry. So before you talk about us spamming perhaps you should educate yourself a little. It does wonders for a case of the ingorances.

Catmann| 8.20.10 @ 11:32AM

Also note that Syria's and Iraq's neighbors all were secretly pleased that Israel removed this threat.

Ssteve Helsel| 5.29.10 @ 2:24PM

everything he is saying is true. He doesn't want the gov. to subsidize Iran. Well duh, he doesn't support foriegn aid to anyone. this is not zionist in anyway. He is applying the policies of his father rhetoricaly to Israel but you could apply them to any country and it would sound like he is pro that country. The whole thing is really clever read this over, and judge it line for line.

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:13AM

That's the USA's problem. We shouldn't be giving foreign aid to anyone. I'm pro- Israel but we shouldn't be giving aid to Israel nor her neighbors. That would solve alot of problems.

sharpinchitown| 7.23.10 @ 2:05PM

I too hope he's pandering. Zionism is destroying this nation.

Ed Ward II| 4.22.10 @ 11:50AM

Ok we Paulists are showing up. Israel is one country out of 200. It deserves no special treatment. That would be treasonous. Americans are for America. Israelis are for Israel. Simple.

Gregor | 4.22.10 @ 12:47PM

In reply to Ed Ward II ... So, why are you spamming for Ron Paul? Ron Paul is just one person out of millions. He deserves no special treatment? Ed Ward II should be for himself. Ron Paul is for Ron Paul. Simple.
In Ed Ward's world, and the world of Paulbots, you ignore ALL friends and relatives, and think only of yourself. No need for friends. No need for allies. No need to protect those who stand with you. No need to support countries (or candidates or even family members) who share your principles or views. And if you just close your door and ignore everything else around you, everything will be okay. Suddenly, there will no longer be any evil people in the world who want to take what you have. Everything will be ... perfect.

Now go back to sleep and continue your dream.

ed helmstetter| 4.22.10 @ 2:51PM

where is this money to suppport israel supposed to come from ?

ron blue| 4.22.10 @ 3:42PM

you mean the 1/10 of 1% of the budget.
A much cheaper cost than protecting Western Europe during the Cold War, thats for sure.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 5:53PM

Doesn't matter what % ron. What matters is that it is not a constitutionally authorized expense.

Wally| 4.22.10 @ 6:47PM

So? Why specifically focus on Israel? Makes you look like an anti-Semitic bigot.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:23PM

I commented on Israel because that is what this post is about, and the author of the post seems VERY concerned about Israel. That was the point of my comment about Cameron. You must have missed it. The point being that the average American should care no more what a United States Senate candidate thinks about Israel than they do what he thinks about Cameron or any other foreign country.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 11:00PM

Oops ... should be Cameroon.

axbucxdu| 4.23.10 @ 1:18PM

Nor should we care about Cameron, either. That goes twice for Clegg and Brown.

Wally| 4.23.10 @ 1:23PM

Yeah sure. Admit it, you're a bigot.

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 11:01PM

Admit it, you're a name caller incapable of formulating an actual argument.

Sick & Tired of Pea Brains| 5.21.10 @ 4:50AM

Why is it that not approving of Israel's behaviour amounts to anti-semitism? It's really stupid. Do any of you race baiters really know anything about the history of the the Israeli state, and the violence they've perpetrated against the British, the Arabs and the United States? Hell...they bombed the British right out of the country to start, they slaughtered the Arabs into hating them when before the creation of the the Israeli state they lived in peace together, and of course, they bombed the USS Liberty in a ploy to blame it on Egypt to get us into the 6 Days War.

I don't hate Jews, but the Israeli state I don't support at all, because more often than not they are the perpetrators, then they justify their actions behind the Holocaust. Oh really? They learned to fire off white phosphorus over a civilian population, burning women and children in Lebanon and Gaza, from their lessons of being slaughtered themselves during WWII? So that's their answer...to commit genocide against Arabs?

Disgusting, and anyone who supports their murderous actions and throws around "Anti-Semite" at everyone who does see what they are doing, and what they've been doing since the creation of the Israeli state, should be ashamed of themselves.

And how many of you know that Iran is filled with Persian Jews? Bet you didn't. They aren't persecuted in Iran, and have positions in government...but you never hear that in the press, do you? There are many Persian Jews in West Los Angeles, in fact, and they don't cry and rant about how persecuted they are in Iran...because they aren't.

Bunch of morons. Wake up. Your being controlled and manipulated to believe in lies...open a damn book or something and learn some critical thinking skills.

Catmann| 8.20.10 @ 11:51AM

There is a lot of speculation regarding the Israeli attack on the USS liberty. The reports I read suggests that the Israeli's were concerned about American monitoring of Israeli commuunications. A stupid move on Israel's part to attack an ally.

Jews only live in peace with Arabs if they agree to be second or third class citizens which is a requirement under Islam. Regarding your point that the Jews in Iran live well under the current regime live in constant fear. They are always under suspicion of being Israeli collaborators. Your understanding of the existential threats to Jews in the middle east is clouded. I wouldn't characterize you as an anti-Semite but you are selective in the sources you use to support your points.

Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 4:03PM

The pilot who led the Liberty raid was also the only one who missed Osirak on that raid. Stupidity and incompetence comes to mind rather than reasoned evil acton.

Occam's Tool| 5.20.11 @ 4:02PM

Fewer than 10,o00 Jews in Iran.

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:20AM

Because israel uses that money to continue its illegal occupation, to continue oppressing the palestinians, it goes towards their military.... this money is not being used for anything good. Thats the problem. America is not only supporting this aparthied, theyre financing it.
israel is a parasite nation.

Catmann| 8.20.10 @ 12:02PM

Apartheid you say! It’s what Arabs want you moron. Islam requires that all infidels be killed or converted. In Europe the Muslim hordes are pushing out Jews and Christians at an alarming rate. That's apartheid in its most virulent form. As far as Israel being a parasitic nation that couldn't be farther from the truth. Israel produces and exports more technology and produce per capita than any of its medieval neighbors.

After you finish reading this piece I suggest you throw your computer and cellphone away because that parasitic nation created much of the technology you enjoy. And while your at it investigate the origins of the medications you and your genetically deficient relatives and friends consume to stay alive or have a better life. Yup thats right it was probably developed in Israel.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:32PM

We are "focused on Israel" because his statement is about Israel, you dufus.

Try your sad, "cried wolf once too often" anti-semitic bullshit elsewhere...no other country gets the support, blind support, unLAWFUL support, we give Israel. And it needs to STOP NOW.

sharpinchitown| 7.23.10 @ 2:06PM

Because Israel acts like racist tyrant while calling herself a democracy, that's why. DUH.

MvGuy| 9.24.10 @ 8:35PM

Maybe because
Israel is America's No.1 Welfare Queen..

Ava| 5.19.10 @ 8:38PM

Here are the enumerated powers:
Congress' powers are enumerated in Section Eight:

Section 8: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;—And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED- SUPPORTING MILITARY ALLIES IS PART OF PROVIDING FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE. The gov also has the specific right to enact legislation to get any of those powers above done and to make administrative rules/ ALSO please note the gov has the power to regulate international commerce. So trade pacts or whatever is within the enumerated powers.

At least read the dam* thing if you are going to use it as a shield for jew hating.

dan| 5.21.10 @ 1:49AM

Since Isreal has admitted to having nukies, while not being a signatory to the nuclear arms non poliferation treaty, it is totally ILLEGAL for the US to give isreal any financial aid.
look it up already.
get YOUR facts straight.

dan | 5.21.10 @ 1:57AM

Oh yeah ,and that bit about the congress and coining it's own dough...how come you are borrowing money to GIVE to isreal while AMERICANS live in tent cities like bedoins, and just who owns the central banks that the US is ILLEGALLY borrowing from....to ILLEGALLY lend to...

Manu| 5.21.10 @ 2:39AM

Why people keep repeating this crap about israel having so much in common with america? israel is an ethnic supremacist country, it´s called a jewish state for god´s sake, imagine if america started calling itself a christian nation and asked for proof of ascendency to grant citizenship? Israel has nothing to do with america, they sell that so you fools keep sending aid so they can steal other´s lands. Jews control your media and have brainwashed you to work and die for them, wake the hell up.

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:22AM

If the media is run by the Jews it's run by secular leftist Jews who are anti Israel like George Soros. The media loves Barack bow to saudi kings Obama, hates Israel, are Muslim sympathizers, love socialism, hate christians...these are the jews that are ashamed of their jewishness except when they want to use their jewish identity to silence opposition.

schwartzer| 5.21.10 @ 3:47AM

It's not Jew hating facts are facts. The Federal Reserve Bank owned by the rothchilds is an unconstitutional, treasonous and corrupt entity that is ruining the world. It needs abolished and that's just the way it is. Simon may G-D always bless you and may HE bring HIS wrath harshly and swiftly to those of you that have turned from HIM

Huh?| 5.21.10 @ 3:55PM

@Ava... Where, exactly, did you "check" for this fantasy? There is not one thing in the Constitution to support your claim. You assume too much. Then use the nauseating ploy of calling anyone who would differ from your strange perception of reality a "jew hater".

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:34PM

here come the Zionist apologists by the boatloads: "THE LAST TIME I CHECKED- SUPPORTING MILITARY ALLIES IS PART OF PROVIDING FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE."

Bullshit. Israel is NOT my 'ally" when they commit GENOCIDE, period. Now go fuck yourself.

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:28AM

Microscopic Israel is surrounded by 22 hostile ARAB-Muslim nations who want her wiped out because of her minority of 7.5 million Hebrew-Jews. People like you are ignoring the 800 pound Muslim in the room. Europe is now being overrun by militant Islam.

cfountain72 | 5.25.10 @ 8:44AM

Ava,

I appreciate you bringing the Constitution to the fore. You are absolutely correct that "trade pacts or whatever" are certainly Constitutionally granted powers. Unfortunately for your other argument, the 'common defense' refers to the common defense of the folks living in the United States of America...not that of other nations.

What perhaps you fail to realize is that folks who wish to end foreign aid for Israel apply the same logic to other countries as well. Put simply, all foreign aid, whether it be Egypt or Israel, Pakistan or Columbia, should stop. If Israel is truly our special friend, they will go on being friends long after we stop sending them billions of dollars each year, no?

Peace be with you.

sharpinchitown| 7.23.10 @ 2:08PM

Our founding fathers were very clear on foreign entanglements. I suggest you read Washington's Farewell Address from 1796.

Occam's Tool| 7.14.10 @ 12:21PM

Aid to Israel is constitutional, Red, if it advances our defence. It does, and is.

sharpinchitown| 7.23.10 @ 2:09PM

How does it advance our defense? Specifically.

I do know Israel's agents got us into war with Iraq through the Office of Special Plans set up within the CIA specifically to justify war.

heroay| 7.29.11 @ 8:28PM

Until you pull out of your latrine in tel aviv and get to WORK for a living, you will deserve every dollar you eat, unlike today, at America's expense. First learn English, then re-read the US Constitution. You might be embarrassed, if such word exists in your parasitic vocabulary.

dan| 5.21.10 @ 2:42AM

spamming
lets see....
ava has repeated her post (see below)
that meets the definition of spamming
ed ward's post does not...
So could you use some that free US money to purchase yourself a decent US dictionary?

dan| 5.21.10 @ 2:53AM

"spamming"
see the repetition of Ava's post below.
that fits the definition of spamming.
ed ward's post does not.
maybe if you took some of that free money and bought a dictionary for your next debate?

ron_paulite| 4.22.10 @ 12:04PM

i support ron paul because he is probably the most consistent, principled and straight-talking politician in washington. ron paul is not your typical politician because he says what he thinks and does not change his stand to win more votes.

unfortunately, his son, rand paul, seems more and more like a typical establishment politician.

ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 4:17PM

Rand Paul made these statements because he knows his kooky father will never be elected POTUS, and he wants to avoid the same fate. Works for me.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:36PM

"ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 4:17PM
Rand Paul made these statements because he knows his kooky father will never be elected POTUS, and he wants to avoid the same fate. Works for me. "

In other words...another Obama-type politician that lies and is not to be believed? Works for me, too....not.

dan| 5.21.10 @ 2:04AM

ummm...the establishment guy who rand paul just trounced was also illegally running while overseeing the his own election...
jeepers ! no wonder the afghan and iraqy elections
turned out to be total frauds..
look where they imported their democracy from...

don't you guys use facts in your debates?

SpinnakerRE| 4.22.10 @ 12:25PM

I can finally support Rand Paul now.

I don't need him totally supplicated at the Israel-alter, but I did need him to acknowledge they are our friend and ally, and they have every right to do what they feel they need to do to defend their land.

bob| 4.22.10 @ 12:57PM

The Israelis aren't defending their land. The are illegally occupying the West Bank and Gaza Strip against international law. The American media is the puppet of Israel so the truth is more difficult to find than it should be.
http://video.google.com/videop.....332769307#

Jacob| 4.22.10 @ 1:13PM

True....Israeli settlements are the problem.

bob| 4.22.10 @ 1:21PM

this video is extremely helpful to truly understand the issue:

http://video.google.com/videop.....amp;hl=en#

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.22.10 @ 5:23PM

Well, we Americans are "occupying" north America.

We whipped my other ancestors' neolithic ass.
(I'm 1/4th amerind.)
Heh, those few thousand Israelis whipped umpteen million Arabs'...neolithic asses....but only after being attacked.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO, ISRAELIS! YOU HAVE AN ALLY IN THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS!

Occam's razor| 5.16.10 @ 10:09PM

Ken (Old Texican), once more you must be told...I'm proud to have you as a fellow American. You kick ass all the time, every day.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 5:23PM

From revolting Cocaine's Parting Blade, to Tex-asco:

"...I'm proud to have you as an AmeriKhan Sayanim Tex-Ass. You LICK ass all the time, every day. JEW ass. THAT's why you are a proud ASCO."

Signed (foot stamp): "Orgasmic Shave" (done in a Tel Aviv latrine... he-he...) How STOOPID!

Occam's Tool| 11.3.10 @ 4:13PM

heroay---I spent eight years of my life in Texas. Unlike you, I can write. Occam's Razor has nothing to do with the cocaine you consume. It's not, actually, a physical entity at all.

heroay| 7.29.11 @ 8:36PM

ta-ta, 8 years! Wow! Were you still messing your diapers when you left? Fortunatelly, you left! So genius Little Einstein knows what 'Other Razor' means? Bravo! Your IQ, thanks to living among intelligent Humans for 8 years, went up to... IQ-71... And if were like you, probably'd have to snort Crack from tel aviv, delivered by Mossad. Not.

Sick & Tired of Pea Brains| 5.21.10 @ 5:00AM

Actually, Mr. Ken...your wrong. The Israelis from day one have been the perpetrators. They committed terrorism against the British to get them out back in the late 1940s, they attacked our Navy to blame it on Egypt and get the US into the 6 Days War (USS LIBERTY...Google it), and they committed slaughter after slaughter of Arabs, which is why they were attacked over and over. Before the Exodus and the creation of the Israeli state, Jews and Arabs lived together in peace in the area.

Read a book. Do some research. Get a clue.

Occam's Tool| 7.14.10 @ 12:22PM

Sick and Tired: Read Maimonides. Dhimmitude is not peace and harmony.

heroay| 7.29.11 @ 8:40PM

C'mon's D0-do, Mammon-nides was one of your classic trainers. Thanks to him, you are a parasite in tel aviv. Beware, the feeding pipe will be severed. Start practicing a trade or something, you gotta survive.

James| 7.24.10 @ 8:23AM

Yiu are asking this texan t oget aclue?? Chances are he is living off his girlfriend, like the shittyylittlestate does on America. He has a pickup truck with a shotgun and horns. He plays pool and never did a days honest work in his life.
Tell him thagt a bunch of Afghanis with primitive weapons have kicked the shit out of his super empire.

Occam's Tool| 11.3.10 @ 4:14PM

Old Texican is a multi-millionaire writer of a basic and famous text on baseball instruction, among other things. Learn to spell and think, Jimbo.

heroay| 7.29.11 @ 8:46PM

Orgasm's Tool, Ol' Texi-mixed is a writer?? Baseball?? Stop crackin'! Next you are going to claim he writes for the Washintoon Post, or the Jew Joke Times!

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:23AM

Those were two different time periods. We are currently witnessing this genocide in israel and do nothing to stop it. This isnt hundreds of years ago. Its happening right now. And remember the old saying those who dont recognize their mistakes will repeat the.

come on man. jesus are you ppl really this thick skuled??

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:41PM

Not too smart down in tex ass:

"Heh, those few thousand Israelis whipped umpteen million Arabs'...neolithic asses....but only after being attacked."

Huh huh huh yeah....tex ass caveman speaks.....uh uh uh Arabs bad....uh uh....

There are RUSSIAN and TURKISH converted JEWS flown in the 1970's from Russia to Israel, you freakin' low brow, low IQ nitwit.

And no, Israel never 'whipped millions" of "Arabs" and Israel will be WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH by them soon enough. Guaranteed.

Old Virginian.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 5:09PM

Well, Texaco, you Ame-rinds 'invaded' 'native' horses and mastodon territory, until you finished eating them ALL. Were not for the Euro 'invaders' of est. 18 million Rinds in WHOLE N.A. including Canada=NOTHING, you'd STILL be wearing out the SOLES OF YOUR FEET. Be grateful for ever.

As for your asinine invitation to the terrorist parasites in the ME, the so-called 'israelis', and your reference to 'The Alamo', a reminder: NO army in the world, much less the baby-killer, blood-ritualistic, satanic-coward, retard thugs (IQ-70) in the 'israeli' army, who FAILED miserably before scanty Hamas, and was recently made to run like momma's chickens before Hezbolla (I have the pics), could possibly tackle the growing anger of Americans.

And 222 Million guns in the hands of 100 Million pissed-off Americans plus their Second Amendment, will make sure no imbecile RAToid foreigner, or local Ziotic (idiotic) sewer dweller, gives it a try.

You are welcome to join the enemy, Tex-asco Old Feces. The Constitution is very specific about traitors in time of revolt: "We provide the rope!"

Beast to the Abyss for a thousand years (tenfold): The Propehcy WILL be fulfilled, by We The People of the United States. Choke on it, Tex-asco.

Occam's Tool| 11.3.10 @ 4:16PM

IQ-70? 22% of the world's Nobel Prizes are won by what ethnic group with only 13 million people?

heroay| 7.29.11 @ 9:37PM

Orgasm's Tool, the "NO-Bell Praise" TOOL was concocted by 'that ethnic group', aka, the jews, to bring cheap 'fame' and quick money (sigh!) to the breed. Last fetid example, the dark jew Obongo. Earlier, Saint Einstein, the Relativity Plagiarist (otherwise unknown to the world). Check jew listing of the recipients and wonder why 95% are not known except to their mommies. Fakes! As for jew IQ, read the NO-Bull "Are jews intelligent?" (LOL) or "IQ and jews". Pathetic. Risible. Pitiful. No, not the scientific content of the document; the pariahs' claim that they are "gods on tall-mud", or, "mastas of the jew-niverse".

Geoff| 4.22.10 @ 1:57PM

Israel is not in Gaza, Hamas controls Gaza, and murders Fatah members there, butchering them and throwing them from the top of 6 story buildings. The Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" are barbarians who need Israel's help for their very survival. In return for that help they shoot rockets into civilian neighborhoods of Israel. People who support this idea that Israeli settlements are the problem are ignorant or evil liars. There were no "settlements" in 1967 were there. Israel gave back all the land it seized from Egypt and has had no fights with Egypt since. So, are you two ignorant, or evil liars?

Geoff| 4.22.10 @ 2:09PM

That should have said..."Israel is not in the West Bank and Hamas controls Gaza"

Simon| 4.22.10 @ 6:17PM

What? Of course Israel is in the West Bank... where you getting your facts from? Everyone knows this, even the most hardcore of Zionists.

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:25AM

Wow. Youre a huge idiot. What a retarded statement. Palestinians need israel for survival???? Im pretty sure they were doing just fine for the past 2000+ yrs until the zionist terrorists arrived to steal their land and buther the ppl. Youre clueless.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:48PM

"There were no "settlements" in 1967 were there. "
Is that supposed to be a question, Geoff? Palestinians have certainly been there since 1967: "Palestinians" are the descendents of the Midianites and Arameans of the New Testament. So regardless of the historical veracity of the NT, "Palestinians" are certainly PROVEN by DNA to be CLOSELY RELATED to Sephardic Jews.

Proven, as in REALITY.

Not related to the blue eyed, white skinned ZIONISTS converted to Jews, from BROOKLYN, RUSSIA AND TURKEY INFESTING that land now.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 5:50PM

farang, you cannot argue with pre-programmed robotic (idiotic) IQ-70 re-turds. They were 'chosen', and that's IT! Their bare existence AND IDENTITY depends on that fallacy, and their HoloHoax pigshit.

The 'blue eyes' come from the Caucasus area, nowhere else, a missing chemical in the water, the KHAZAR turk-mongol INBREDS, cousins of the paraiah ASHKENAZIS from Shinar (sin) Babyloonia, and cousins of squatter blood-ritual CANAANITES, all these, the BLACK SEED of one biblical NOAH.

Pestilence on Earth. The Devil though it wanted to fart, but spew feces on this planet (he-he). A task for Angels to clean up, but mere humans might end up doing it, or suffocate on this poisonous gAss!

BTW, according to the VERY Ashkenazi-jew sponsored Old Text bibles, the Palestinians (Philistines), been there since 1100 years BEFORE the Christ set foot to kick JEWASS in the ME. Bonzo evil LIAR Goofoff! Like all of them!

Cliff| 4.22.10 @ 3:49PM

According to who? What body defines this international law and what is the penalty for breaching it?

Every time some Paul idiot says something like this, support for Rand and his lunatic father goes down.

ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 4:21PM

Yup, and the dummies never get it.

roscoe p coaltrain| 4.22.10 @ 11:48PM

The Palestinians living in Israel accepted refuge in the surrounding Arab countries when, in 1947, the leaders of that region, effectively, said, "Hey, y'all, watch this!" thinking that with their combined forces they could easily whip up on the upstart young nation. Foolish claim, that was. The plan was for the Palestinians to move back and take over the assets of the dead/fleeing Zionists. Instead, those Arabs got whipped and the Israelis magnamimously offered the displaced Palestinians a free pass to come home. The Arabs, poor sports, made their guests stay, but even today force them to stay mainly in poverty-stricken lifestyles in separate camps. Judge ye, who has treated these people better.

adj88| 5.21.10 @ 3:36PM

Palestinians were transferred via violent force and threat of genocide by zionist invaders that have no more right to that plot of land than the pygmies of Australia do.

Joe Hamilton| 4.23.10 @ 1:13AM

bob; how nice of you to honor us with your expertise on international law. Haven't you been incommunicado for the past 5 years? Israel totally evacuated Gaza. According to international law the West bank is not occupied (were you asleep during this lecture on international law?) The last governmental entity to have title to the west bank was the Ottoman empire , which no longer exists. So there is no occupation according to international law. Israel has more right to the west bank than the current trespassing Fakestinianss since the League of Nations designed present day Israel , the west bank and Jordan to constitute the National Jewish homeland.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 6:19PM

HAHAHA! Hear this Joe Hamburguer JOKER!! The damned defunct League of Nations, a JEW Rothschild fart-child, had as much 'authority' to 'share' Middle East territory to the jews, as a jew neighbor's dog to piss on my yard, dumb egoflatulent TURD!

The so-called 'jew', Ashkenazi-Khazar-Turk-Mongol inbred parasite dark son of Noah, belongs NOWHERE.

Anywhere they squatted, they destroyed (except Egypt, cos Akhenaton wisely commissioned Egyptian High Priest Moses to lead that shit (squatter Canaanites) OUT of the land. Right now, in the Jewnited States of America.

But having been outcast, for rapine, genocide, child-blood-ritual, usury, intrigue, subversion, homosexuality, poisoning of water wells (Black Plague), pornography, pedophilia, sedition, treason, and perjury (for starters) from 100 countries, there is NO place else to go but...

Ever read 'the Prophecy', dumb moron? You know, in the Christian Bible. You should read it, and ask Moloch for some place else to crawl.

TruthSeeker| 4.23.10 @ 11:38AM

On November 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations voted with a 2/3 majority to partition western Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.(1) . Over 75% of the land allocated to the Jews was desert. Desperate to find a haven for the remnants of European Jewry after the Holocaust, the Jewish population accepted the plan which accorded them a diminished state. The Arabs, intent on preventing any Jewish entity in Palestine, rejected it.

Consequently, the Palestinians were evacuated by the Arab forces in order to attack Israel.

The Israelis fought them off, thereby taking possession of the Palestinian area.

The Israelis consider the Arab attack as rejection of 181.

Know your history.

ccr bill| 5.21.10 @ 8:33AM

Truth Seeker

Get your facts strait. Israel took 55% of Palistine in 1947 and most of the land was the fertel farming land. Now the occupy 80% of the land. Kill all the Zionist Pigs

Bob| 5.21.10 @ 10:27AM

You name yourself truthseeker??? And leave a comment like this, so devoid of any truth whatsoever. Thats rich.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 6:30PM

Fake Boob, and you call yourself (for NO ONE else does) a "God chosen"?? Paraiah, genocidal maniac, egoflatulent turd, IQ-70 retard, squatter destroyer of a 100 countries (search jew-Goorgle, it's all there), liar as the devil ("your father"), rapinous thief. You cannot touch the Truth, it will consume you in flames, for your soul belongs in Hell.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 6:41PM

TruthTWEEKER, get your brain straight. The JEW Rothschilds spawned the League of Nations, to SCREW the other nations. Failed. But then these parasitic EVIL jews made it with the so called 'Jewnited Nations' (for YisroHell).

Any surprise the JewN stole Palestinian territory for the parasitic JEW?? Read, dumbo, 'Adolf Hitler-Founder of israel', and shut your mouth.

And the ONLY reason the paraiahs 'won' against he ill armed Arabs, is because the Jewnited States provided their best weapons to help the kill.

When the American milk bottle dries, and it is on its way, you all will starve to death, since you don't know the meaning of WORK for FEED. Sick, shameless, pathetic PARASITES.

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:42AM

You do remember Israel was attacked in 1948 right? Israel took the land because she beat back the attack by back several Arab nations i.e. Egypt
Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia &
Yemen. To the victor goes the spoils i.e. land. The "palestinians" ended up with less land because of their attack on Israel. Again in 1967 Israel was attacked and the result was she kicked ass and once again, to the victor went the spoils i.e. land: Sinai, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip and West Bank.

S.L. Toddard| 4.22.10 @ 3:08PM

I agree with SpinnakerRE to an extent. I just don't believe Israel has any right to our money.

ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 4:18PM

No one cares what you think, moron.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 5:03PM

And people who support foreign aid for Israel (or any other country) apparently don't care what the Constitution thinks.

ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 6:50PM

And some people are just anti-Semitic bigots hiding behind the Constitution.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:27PM

Can't make an argument so you call names instead. Great way to lead by example.

ZerObama| 4.23.10 @ 1:26PM

And you're a coward who uses the Constitution as cover to vent your hatred Israel.

ZerObama| 4.23.10 @ 1:27PM

-----hatred toward Israel.

Shlomo Rabinowitz| 5.19.10 @ 2:25PM

Let's see...you have a group of people (Ashkenazi Jews) who are Asiatic - not Semitic - rounding up a genuinely Semitic people, imprisoning them in a concentration camp (Gaza), and cutting off their supply lines. Tell me who the true anti-Semites are?

schwartzer| 5.21.10 @ 3:57AM

Point well taken and may G-D bless you and yours as well.

ccr bill| 5.21.10 @ 8:35AM

Amen Shlomo. I am not and anti Semite. I am an anti Zionist.

Archeology Speaks| 5.21.10 @ 3:33PM

Whose religious myths were pilfered from neighboring Babylon and whose language was lifted from ancient Canaan. Fiction from A-Z.

jsb| 5.26.10 @ 4:43PM

Another lie from another hater.

The majority of Jews in Israel are Jewish ARABS.

Jewish Populations in Arab Countries: 1948-2002

Aden 8,000................................... 0

Algeria 140,000........................... 0

Bahrain 550-600.......................... around 30 people.

Egypt 75,000-80,000................... 100 Less than a hundred remain.

Iraq 135,000-140,000............200 7-8 in Baghdad and fewer than 100 remain.

Lebanon 5,000-20,000...........< 100 around 40 in Beirut.

Libya 35,000-38,000.............. .....0

Morocco 250,000-265,000..... 5,230

Qatar ? ? ? a few Jews are reported.

Syria 15,000-30,000 ................100 fewer than 30 remain.

Tunisia 50,000-105,000...........1,000

Yemen 45,000-55,000 .............200 a few hundred remain.

850,000 Jews were cleansed off the Arab countries. Most fled to Israel and now make up the largest section of Israel's Jewish population.

But the Palestinians and their supporters don't want us to know this.

So they lie and claim Israel is just a white European colony.

Joe| 4.22.10 @ 12:29PM

Well, its good to see that the son Rand is not as crazy as the father. Certainly most people in Kentucky would consider themselves strong supporters of Israel. Same in Texas, where Ron Paul would never be elected statewide if he tried.

ed helmstetter| 4.22.10 @ 2:54PM

how do you explain ron paul winning so overwhelmingly for 11 terms in his own district?

ZerObama| 4.22.10 @ 4:20PM

Maybe Rand doesn't want to play smallball politics like his father for the rest of his life. Smart boy.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 6:48PM

ZigotBUMa, you all ashkenazi parasites are crapping already, eh? the fetid jew 'empire' (from the sewers of tel aviv) is falling all over your heads, and mouths. So Be It! Yidiots.

Sick & Tired Of Pea Brains| 5.21.10 @ 5:18AM

What's so crazy about Ron Paul? The biggest threat to America is the banks, and Paul is the most outspoken and almost only one going after them...and the guy is crazy? Americans are so stupid I'm almost ashamed to be one sometimes.

Oh...it must be his stand on bringing the troops home that makes him crazy, I guess? Well, our troops are busy fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan...by protecting the opium trade and helping them grow the poppies to levels 10 times what they were when the Taliban ran the country.

Stupid...ignorant...Americans. Just like all you tea partiers...supporting Palin and voting back in Repubs that have sold you out over and over, protected corporations and banks, and NEVER protected out borders when they had the chance.

Pitiful and disgusting...brainwashed sheep.

Dan| 5.21.10 @ 11:00AM

"THROUGH DECEPTION THOW SHALT CREATE WAR"-Motto of the Mossad
jeez what more needs to be said?

Paul| 4.22.10 @ 12:44PM

Well done, Rand. The Israelis might not be saints, but they are the only sane ones in a very unstable region. They are also the only true democracy in the Middle East, other than the fragile one we just build in Iraq.

The money quote is "Peace is a laudable goal. But it is just that – a goal. It is not an end at any cost. "

Could not have said it any better myself. But let me add this -- we will never see peace in the Middle East with a weak Israel, as her enemies will smell blood and push on relentlessly for her destruction. Someday, the Palistinians and all of the factions supporting them may finally accept peace terms -- but the terms of the peace may have to be backed up by the barrel of a gun.

Jacob | 4.22.10 @ 1:15PM

Settlement expansions sane? Evil? Me thinks the latter. Israel should be condemned for what they are doing to the Palestinians.

Geoff| 4.22.10 @ 2:00PM

Palestinians should be condemned for what they are doing to Palestinians. They could have peace, prosperity, and their own nation right now if they wanted it. But they do not want peace, not even with each other. They want Israel wiped off the face of the earth and jews under submission to Arab muslims. Isn't that correct?

Joe Hamilton| 4.23.10 @ 1:17AM

Jacob; There are no "Palestinian" people. The trespassing fakestinians should return to their lands of origin: Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria

Beniamino| 4.23.10 @ 3:41PM

Joe - you are correct, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" people. That would explain why there were no human beings in Palestine before Chaim Weizmann showed up.

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 6:59PM

Goofoff, Joe Hamburguer, BenzeneAmino, you three dumb turds, read your OWN jew Jehova Witness 'bible', jerkoffs:

The ancient PHILISTINES, who gives a damn who named them so, lived in the ME 1100 years BEFORE the Christ showed up to kick your fetid ASS in front of everybody! IGNORANT turds! But quite criminally minded buch of wandering parasites.

And very poisonous indeed. The Black Plague victims could testify today against you, if they were alive to tell the horror story only a son of the devil could conceive in its inbred, degenerate, evil brain.

You asses, on the other hand, belong NOWHERE. Ashkenazi-Khazar-Turk-Mongol inbred parasites from Shinar (sin) Babyloonia, until one fateful day your breed decided to contaminate the world with your fecal presence. DAMN!

heroay| 5.22.10 @ 7:27PM

Jacob, the post is by a jew con-man. What can he say? The tel aviv latrine 'ambASSadors' to the net are paid with American robbed tax dollars to infest all threads, especially, this jew one. What garbage they won't spew, so long as they are fed for NO work?

'Israel' is a figment of Moses imagination, a place in heaven, according to some religious 'jews', for the ISRAELITES (NOT 'jews'!) who obey God.

But NOT 'israhell', a place on earth. Such is a place for the jew 'MESSY-YAYA', satanic troll to come to earth to glorify the vile crimes of the so called 'jews'. So, to hell with them, their MESSY-YAYA, and 'their' 'Yisrohell'. Satanic, demented thieves.

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Charles| 4.22.10 @ 12:51PM

"So how long before the Ron Paulites show up to spam this thread and defend their leader?"

About nine minutes longer than it takes for someone to spam the thread and attack Congressman Paul and his supporters, evidently.

Regards,

Charles

Gregor | 4.22.10 @ 1:05PM

A single comment, saying "hope he means it" is "spamming" in your world?

Good grief you people are nuts.

Jacob| 4.22.10 @ 1:16PM

The spectator folks are a little nuts. I am just glad to see that US-citizen support for the apartheid state of Israel is waning.

Jules| 4.22.10 @ 1:43PM

Hey Jacob, I hate to break your heart dude, but your NAME IS HEBREW you ignorant jerk. Gender: Male
Origin: Hebrew
Meaning: Held By The Heel

Mr. Dictionary| 4.22.10 @ 2:09PM

Hey Jules ,I hate to break it to ya dude,but your name is FRENCH ,you abruti .

Gender : Male
Origin : Latin
Meaning :Down Bearded Youth

Oceans Fourteen| 4.22.10 @ 3:24PM

Mr. Dic...tionary, now now, that's not nice. A little TENSE perhaps? Happens when you anti-Semites are surrounded by supporters of Israel does it?

Mr.Dictionary| 4.22.10 @ 3:53PM

Only 14 Plays The Anti-Semitism Card !
Is that what So-Called Supporters Of Israel think will impress Americans , Punk ?

Jeremiah| 4.22.10 @ 6:52PM

Paultards are nuts. How many times an hour do you morons have to clean your spittle-soaked computer screens?

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:29PM

You just wrote that, but OUR computer screens are spittle-soaked. It's called self-awareness. You should try it.

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:29PM

What's "self-aware" about being a fat-mouthed bigot?

You people are unhinged.

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 5:45PM

I'm making arguments and you're calling names, but I'm the one who is unhinged? Again Jeremiah its called self-awareness. Get some.

Oceans Fourteen| 4.22.10 @ 11:06PM

Punk? Au contraire... je suis coquette! Vous?
Va te faire foutre.

Beniamino| 4.23.10 @ 3:46PM

Make up your mind, genius. Is it tu or vous?

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:48AM

Jacob the usurper.

Charles| 4.22.10 @ 2:46PM

Gregor,

1) "WendyG" did more than make a "single comment" here, despite your assertion.

2) How many people do you think I am?

I am being much more serious now Gregor, and though I doubt that you think you can trust me, I've a few honest questions for you.

Do you believe that the Israeli government has been acting in the best interests of the Israeli citizens (of all backgrounds, religions, et cetera)?

Do you believe that the Israeli government has been acting in a manner that promotes stability and peace in and immediately around Israel?

Do you believe that the Israeli government has been acting in a manner that promotes stability and peace in the nearby region?

Regards,

Charles

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 3:52AM

Let's compare how women are treated in Israel as compared to how they are treated in the Arab muslim states. Can women drive, own property, and vote? Are synagogues and churches allowed in the Arab states?

rjr| 4.22.10 @ 12:53PM

I withdraw my support for Rand Paul. Obviously he is a brainwashed Zionist - just like all the rest of the politicians in this country. If Rand Paul is our greatest hope, then we are truly doomed.

Tom Walls| 4.22.10 @ 1:29PM

Anyone who uses the term Zionist as some kind of epithet is not really helping the debate at all. Since this this is pretty obvious, it leads me to conclude people who use this term are either trolls who seek to make Ron or Rand Paul look bad, or are borderline anti-Semites. In either case, begone.

Full disclaimer: I am a mainstream libertarian supporter of both Ron and Rand, have Jewish blood in my family, like Israel, but oppose US govt. aid to Israel or any other nation on moral and fiscal grounds.

MOP | 5.21.10 @ 3:28PM

Not interested in your use of the implied "anti-semite" slur to censor dissenting views. Walls on the internet not allowed. This aint Occupied Palestine.

Big W.| 4.22.10 @ 12:54PM

It's amazing how different Rand and Ron are on war and foreign affairs. Running a campaign must be a profitable business.

Robert| 4.22.10 @ 1:11PM

"In one 'clear departure' from his father: I would never vote to condemn Israel for defending herself." -- Not so sure if this is "clear." Ron Paul might condemn actions in a speech but he doesn't have a habit (at all) of voting to condemn actions of countries in toothless bills. Remember, he's "Dr. No."

Vast| 4.22.10 @ 1:13PM

Rand is serious with everything he says here...but the funny thing is 90% of this is Ron's position as well.

No foreign aid to ANY country (especially foreign dictatorships), no VOTE to condemn Isreal (Ron was one of the few that said Isreal had a right to hit Iraq's nuclear plant at the time it occured), no public subsidizing ANY companies, free trade with all nations (including Isreal), Isreal is a powerful Adult country and should not be treated as a dependent child of the U.S.. He thinks an unrestrained INDEPENDENT Isreal would have forced a resolution to the conflicts many years ago without cost or blowback to the U.S.

Ron is old and upset at the corruption and constant selling out of the Constitution by Congress. He knows the U.S. is broke and living on borrowed time. He comes at every issue with a bat which is easy to demonize and soundbite.

Rand knows the reasoned, intellectual, and Constitutional basis of Ron's positions. He truthfully states the beneficial results of those positions. Rand does differ with his father on a few issues. He also realizes that the U.S. is broke and living on borrowed time.

Michael Campbell| 5.21.10 @ 5:58AM

Vast is correct, if people could learn to read ideas and statements correctly, they would see that Rand and Ron are exactly saying the same message...just as Arizona is flexing it's muscles with the rights as a sovereign state shaking off the oppression of John Mccain and Janet Napalitano's failed policies , so should America shake off the ticks and parasites of irresponsible arms dealing, foreign aid, and other obtrusive parasites that threaten our well-being and very existence!

MC easy up in the Morning | 5.21.10 @ 6:28AM

The Iran Contra Affair is a prime example of what Dr. Paul and Rand are referring to when blasting our foreign spending and entaglements. Dr. Paul has said all along, if America needs to protect itself, have Congress declare an authorization for it, unlike what has been done so unconstitutionally for over nine years now with the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, if America is such a great friend to Israel, why is it that the Federal Reserve gave Iraq the funding to build the nuclear reactor that Israel had to bomb at the onset of the 1980s??!! You idiotic morons, including Ben Stein and all the Jew-haters better wake up soon before your in-fighting gets us all killed by the same common enemy: the military industrial complex/New World Order/Council on Foreign Relations/North Korea bombed the Deepwater Horizon (South Korean Hyundai owned but leased to BP Oil) rig in the Gulf of Mexico!!

Mossad Watch| 5.21.10 @ 3:26PM

The companies and entities you refer to, like those that supported Hitler, were largely compised of jews ready to make a quick buck. The Warburgs, Schiffs, Rothschilds etc have long funded both sides and continue to do so today.
Reseach the Fed Reserve dude. That was and is the biggest jewish money scam going. It is THE central vehicle to install the One World Gov- headed up by the jews- right out of the Kabbalah itself. Get educated you ignoramus.

kymomma| 4.22.10 @ 1:18PM

I believe that Rand is just like his father, he supports who ever he might be speaking to at the time. This is just another in a long line of political pandering BS on his part. Rand speaks out of both sides of his face. I have been in rallies with his supporters handing out anti-smite materials from Stormfront . Does that sound like he is pro-Israel ? I should think not !

Reality| 4.22.10 @ 1:57PM

You live a sorry life, Lisa Graas! Abortion nut, would be a compliment in your world!

Everyone knows you are a nut!

Vast| 4.22.10 @ 2:08PM

This is a Delusional statement. Right or wrong, Ron is the most consistent advocate for smaller government in the last 30 years. He votes against bigger government regardless of which party is in charge. Having the most 434-1 votes of anyone ever in Congress pretty much defines you as the least pandering person. Ron gives the same anti nation building (Global Socialism) speech to a crowd at a liberal college as he does to a crowd in CPAC.

There are always fringe nuts showing up to unscreened public rallies. To state that Ron Paul is an anti semite though is just plain ignorant. The man cannot shut up about Austrian economics and Mises. It is the basis of his life's work in politics.

Mises was a Jew, Peter Schiff (his 2008 economics adviser) is a Jew. Ron's favorite comic book super hero is Baruch Wane (the Berlin Batman)....a Jewish Batman who goes against the Nazis to recover the confiscated works of Ludwig Von Mises.

William R| 4.22.10 @ 4:44PM

If people were handing out Stormfront material then they were your firends Lisa Grass. You are a reprehensible pathetic liar.

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 4:04AM

Can Ron Paul help who gives him money? Can he help who turns up at his rallies? Ron's platform has a little something for everyone because it's universal.

cowboy bill| 4.22.10 @ 1:28PM

Peace, Propoganda, and the Promised Land: Media and the Israel-Palestine Conflict

http://video.google.com/videop.....amp;hl=en#

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.22.10 @ 1:31PM

We shall always have isolationists it seems.

Uh...how did WWII work out for ya'll?

Hmmmmm... if one "Kentucky rifleman" had just up and decided to be a "knuckle dragger" and shot Adolph, just maybe...No WWII.

Don't get me wrong. I want Mr. Obama to "live long and prosper" IN DISGRACE for his attempt to wreck America. I want to laugh at him, for years and years and years, for thinking he could beat us.

Some 1 per-%er people will vote for Ron Paul , regardless. They have my prayers. The Jewish folk will be here when all the communists, (pardon the shorthand), and the Pharisees like Paul "turn and walk on the other side of the road"...

It will be we "good Samaritans"...good neighbors ...to good neighbors... who will kneel down and help.

I hope that Rand is thoroughly pithed at his father's dismissal of our good neighbors.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 2:23PM

"Uh...how did WWII work out for ya'll?"

Who knows Ken. It was never tried.

Jeremiah| 4.22.10 @ 6:54PM

You're nuts, too. Paultard freak.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:18PM

Wow. Such thoughtful and articulate arguments you make. You represent the anti-Paul fanatics so well.

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:30PM

Better than an anti-Semitic bigot like you.

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 5:49PM

Again Jeremiah I am soooo... impressed by the logical and coherent arguments you make and the reason you employ. You represent your position so well.

Sean| 4.23.10 @ 9:49AM

Seems like WWII led to half of Europe under Stalin's heel and communists coming to power in Korea, Vietnam, and China.

Dave| 5.21.10 @ 1:30AM

The Germans are so vilified, yet they're not the ones who caused the great depression.

That Kentucky Rifle man should have shot himself a bankster.

Sick & Tired of Pea Brains| 5.21.10 @ 5:29AM

"The Jewish folk will be here when all the communists, (pardon the shorthand), and the Pharisees like Paul "turn and walk on the other side of the road"... "

I hate to break it to you...but it was Jews who created Communism in Russia, you moron. Another misinformed brainwashed TV watcher....read some books, do some research, check some facts, and grow up.

farang| 5.21.10 @ 10:55PM

"I hate to break it to you...but it was Jews who created Communism in Russia, you moron."

Exactly, and it was their contempoary allies in Turkey, the Jewish-led revolt of the "Young Turks" that committed GENOCIDE ON THE ARMENIANS. Seems they have a history of it....

Of course, Tex Ass idiots can't read, only parrot what they hear Palin blabber: "How'd that work out fer ya"...pray for the future of our country with mental midgets like this fool.

Bob Miller| 4.22.10 @ 1:33PM

As with the USSR, trust but verify. Any position a politician takes has to be compared with his previous behavior and statements.

kymomma | 4.22.10 @ 1:33PM

You are known by the company you keep!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai0DT-TK1iM

William R| 4.22.10 @ 1:38PM

Rand should read Ronald Reagan's memoirs. Reagan thought the United States should be neutral in the Middle East which is what Ron Paul advocates too. In fact in 2006 Ron Paul quoted from Reagan's book on the House Floor in a speech before voting on one of those pointless resolutions AIPAC demands congress vote on to see who is loyal to the state of Israel.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul335.html

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 1:43PM

I’m really interested in what Rand thinks our policy should be toward Cameron. Hope he takes the time to write a position statement on that also. :-)

This is all carefully worded in a way that could be taken to mean Rand is a non-interventionist who happens to be sympathetic to Israel. Not telling Israel what to do is the non-interventionist position. Not voting to condemn them (which his father would never do) is also the non-interventionist position. (His father has been condemned for not voting to condemn the Palestinians, but his father would never vote to condemn either side.) The call to “increase the pressure on Iran” is troubling and difficult to spin in a non-interventionist way, but non-interventionists don’t reject normal diplomacy so it still could be within the pale. Calling for an end to aid to Israel’s enemies is also non-interventionist. However, if he supported continued aid for Israel or failed to call for its end also if directly asked, that would be a breach with non-interventionism that could not be spun away. A central tenant of non-interventionism is that ALL foreign aid is unconstitutional and should be done away with.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 11:01PM

Oops ... should be Cameroon.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 1:46PM

A direct question to the author of this post, Mr. Klein. Do you support foreign aid to Israel? If so, what part of the Constitution, Article and section please, authorizes the direct payment of "aid" to ANY foreign countries. Thanks.

KyMouse| 4.22.10 @ 2:28PM

I'm glad that Rand Paul is pro-Israel, as am I. However, I'm leery of him right now because of a controversy about his stand on pro-life issues. He has been claiming that he scored 100% on the Kentucky Right to Life Association PAC's questionnaire (for the upcoming primary), but the organization's Web site, www.krla.org, says that it isn't so. On the home page, look under "Newsflash."

William R| 4.22.10 @ 4:46PM

Shows how corrupt Kentucky right to life is. Rand Paul posted his reply to KRLA and his answers were 100 percent pro-life. Concerned Women for American wouldn't have endorsed him if he wasn't.

Lisa| 4.22.10 @ 6:56PM

Why would Kentucky Right to Life be corrupt?

KyMouse| 4.23.10 @ 9:48AM

Mr. R, did you go to www.krla.org and see what Kentucky Right to Life is talking about? I did. KRLA posted Dr. Paul's questionnaire, on which he did not answer a specific question. That omission means that his answers couldn't have been 100%.

KyMouse| 4.23.10 @ 10:32AM

By the way, Mr. R., I notice that you characterize Kentucky Right to Life as "corrupt." Is that based solely on the fact that they disagree with Dr. Paul, and with you, about his pro-life credentials? You may believe that KRLA is mistaken, or unfair, in its statement about Dr. Paul's questionnaire, but "corrupt"? Would Dr. Paul approve of your over-the-top slur?

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:32PM

"Over-the top" doesn't begin to describe Paultard lunatics!

WendyG| 4.22.10 @ 3:31PM

LOL. Do I know how the Ron Paulites operate? Oh yeah!

Lou| 4.23.10 @ 12:32PM

Congratulations, I guess.

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:35PM

Not really; it's not much fun dodging the spittle bursting forth from the Paultards' hysterical comments.

Paultard| 5.21.10 @ 5:37AM

Jeremiahtard...you have an IQ of like 5 or 6. I suppose you love Sarah Palin...total bought and paid for shill recruited to hijack our Paultard tea party movement.

You wouldn't even have an activist tea party movement if it weren't for "Paultards"...and its about the only thing that has a slim chance of saving this country...if we don't let slimy Repub hacks completely steal it from us. Slimy like you, Jeremiahtard.

Elise| 4.22.10 @ 3:42PM

As for foreign aid to Israel, many of you may not realize that 100% of the aid is for military use only AND Israel is bound to spend at least 75% of it here in the US. Additionally, the information exchanged between the US and Israel as part of this agreement is worth many, many times more than the $3B. The two countries collaborate on R&D related to this military spending. Further, this "investment" in Israel's military enables the country to fight its own wars rather than US soldiers and equipment going to help, like in Iraq and Afghnaistan. It is a win for both countries.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 5:07PM

Elise, even if everything you just said is correct, that still wouldn't make aid to Israel constitutional. I asked for the Article and section of the US Constitution that authorizes the giving of "aid" to a foreign country. Get back with me when you have found it. Good luck.

Jeremiah| 4.22.10 @ 6:59PM

Get off your soapbox, pathetic little clown; no one cares about your stupid questions.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:16PM

Yeah, because "nobody" here except the non-interventionists seem to care about the Constitution and limited government.

ZerObama| 4.23.10 @ 1:36PM

You're an anti-Semite who hides behind the Constitution. Coward.

andres| 7.24.10 @ 2:30PM

Sounds like you hit a cord! they cannot answer your question, they call you an anti semite, not being able to respond to the constitutional question. Answer the question zero and jeremia, we are all waiting.

Tim*| 4.22.10 @ 4:06PM

"Israel can spend 26.3 percent of the military aid in Israel, clearly a subsidy to the Israeli defense industry at the expense of American defense contractors. Other countries receiving U.S. military aid generally have to spend 100 percent of it in the U.S. Also in contrast with other countries receiving military aid, who must purchase through the DOD, Israel deals directly with U.S. companies. "

Dan| 4.22.10 @ 4:24PM

"it's interesting to see how the positions he's taking as a Republican Senate candidate in Kentucky differ from those adopted by his father, Rep. Ron Paul,"

Actually these positions are at least 95% equivalent with his father´s positions on the issue, contrary to the either intellectually lazy or outright malicious spin some people seem to prefer to apply to anything Paul (incidentally from diametrically opposed corners of the ideological spectrum and for conflicting reasons).

Ken (Old Texican)| 4.22.10 @ 6:03PM

Red,
The "constitution" was for limiting the fed. VIS A VIS AMERICANS/STATES PERIOD.

It was NOT a suicide pact. We allowed and financed the Flying Tigers before WWII.

.....do I have to compile a list of all the times foreign needs and allies we have supported ..."unconstitutionally" in your third grade mind?
Please grow up and quit asking why the sky is blue.
Thank you.

Jeremiah| 4.22.10 @ 7:00PM

I agree, Ken--the snot-nosed punk's annoying.

Red Phillips | 4.22.10 @ 10:14PM

"The "constitution" was for limiting the fed."

Absolutely it was to limit the feds. And one mechanism of limiting the feds is "enumerated powers." Enumerated powers doctrine is an article of faith among conservatives. So where is giving aid to foreign countries in those enumerated powers? Let me know when you find it. Thanks.

S.L. Toddard| 4.23.10 @ 8:17AM

Only a domestic enemy of the Constitution would denigrate that most conservative of all documents as "a suicide pact".

Sean| 4.23.10 @ 9:56AM

Wow I never knew that funding the Flying Tigers prevented our suicide. The Constitution does give us the ability to declare war and amend it, but people like Ken would prefer to make @#$% up as we go along like the liberals.

Lou| 4.23.10 @ 12:42PM

Red has a point.

Just because the U.S. has provided foreign aid over and over doesn't mean it's constitutional.

Just as the U.S. providing aid to illegal immigrants over and over doesn't make it legal.

Just as Obama and past Presidents using executive orders over and over doesn't make it OK.

Just as the welfare programs we've used over and over help a few at the expense of everyone else doesn't make it right.

So, where is it stated in the Constitution that the U.S. government can give our tax money to foreign countries?

ZerObama| 4.23.10 @ 1:41PM

If the anti-Semitic bigots, Red and Toddard ranted and raved about other countries besides Israel receiving foreign aid, I'd be less suspicious of their motives.

Until then, I am not persuaded that they are arguing in good faith.

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 4:47PM

From my very first post on this thread yesterday.

"A central tenant of non-interventionism is that ALL foreign aid is unconstitutional and should be done away with." caps in the original

I await my apology.

andres| 7.24.10 @ 2:44PM

The discussion has to do with isreal, come on!! if it make you feel better, no aid to no one, right now we americans need all the money for our schools and states.

andres| 7.24.10 @ 2:41PM

I ll list it. Iran contra, the overthrow of a democratically elected president in Iran, the coup of chile, Haiti, dictators here and there etc.. worked out real great huh? while we are broke, cant find money for schools etc. Blow back is a bitch. the sky is blue, now answer the question. you old mexican.

Tim*| 4.22.10 @ 6:38PM

" Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing that given to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct economic and military assistance since 1976, and is the largest recipient in total since World War Two, to the tune of well over $140 billion . Israel receives about $3 billion in direct assistance each year, roughly one-fifth of the foreign aid budget, and worth about $500 a year for every Israeli. This largesse is especially striking since Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to that of South Korea or Spain. "

Jeremiah| 4.22.10 @ 7:01PM

Ditto this idiot*!

Tim*| 4.22.10 @ 7:17PM

What are ya gonna do about it ?

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:42PM

Tough* Guy*!

andres| 7.24.10 @ 2:56PM

all you ever do is insult, when you dont like what you hear. try to respond in a way that at least strengthens your position. these insults just make you look like a tired worn out extremist. just try, I know you can do it.

steve| 4.22.10 @ 7:00PM

And here we go again..all the bashing starts. I think people should be allowed to have their opinions about Israel or 9-11 because unless you have first hand knowledge of the events, motives, actions etc.. related to Israel or 9-11 or a related issue that it very well may be true that our government was in some way involved. I am personally agnostic on the issue. I simply don't know what happened exactly BUT I will say that the CIA has meddling in the affairs of the Middle East for some time now.

Either way, I say GO RAND PAUL! We should take him at his word.

Ralph| 4.22.10 @ 7:53PM

Rand Paul's rhetoric is different but there are no substantive differences between his position and Ron Paul's. Read closely, he's in campaign mode and so while he technically is telling the truth he is using vague language.

He would never vote to condemn Israel, to force Israel into peace, to cut trade with Israel. Just like Ron Paul. As a noninterventionist he won't vote to condemn any country, he believes in free trade with all, and he doesn't think we should force anyone into anything.

He doesn't want to aid Israel's enemies - just like Ron Paul who does not want U.S. foreign aid to any country whether for defense or not.

He doesn't want U.S. companies to get subsidies if they do business in Iran. Well, he also doesn't want subsidies to go to any U.S. companies at all. He would cut all subsidies across the board to 0 but he's just stressing Iran to pander.

As you can tell above, he wants to cut all U.S. aid to Israel as well, foreign and military aid. He also probably also wants a free trade agreement with Iran.

I personally am a non-interventionist, so I am pleased that Rand Paul is saying things this way to market himself, but I am not afraid because I know when he gets to the Senate he will vote no on foreign and military aid to all countries (including Israel) and trade barriers to all countries (including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Lebanon), and that he will also not vote to condemn any other country as well (he would not vote to condemn Israel's enemies such as Lebanon or Syria for attacking Israel also, he doesn't believe in getting involved at all).

As Orwell wrote in Politics and the English Language it is easy for politicians to use words in meaningless ways.

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Hot Air » Blog Archive » Prominent senator rips Obama for his handling of Israel links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…saying they disapprove, down from 55 percent approval last month. Good work, champ. Exit question: Is it in fact a sign of the End Times that a libertarian with the surname Paul is now issuing strong pro-Israel statements? And if not, how long can he keep that up before the Paulnut faithful start to defect? Blowback Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered…

specs| 4.22.10 @ 10:48PM

"In one clear departure from his father, Rand states that: As a United States Senator, I would never vote to condemn Israel for defending herself. "

This is not a departure from his father. His father just thinks it is none of our business. In fact, back in '81 he defended Israel's attack on Iraqs nuclear reactor saying they had a right to defend themselves, when both the Reagan administration and the UN were opposed to the action.

C. Wendt| 4.22.10 @ 11:49PM

I see nothing in there in terms of actual POLICY advocacy that differs from his father; only the tone of his rhetoric, which is pitched in such fashion as to be less offensive to mainstream Republicans. Even the "I would never vote to condemn Israel" bit is consistent with Ron Paul's policies, as he consistently votes against all resolutions passing judgment on or generally sticking our noses into the affairs of foreign nations. Note that Rand did not say he advocates continued American government financial/military aid to Israel, and that free trade with Israel, staying out of their negotiations with Palestine and not funding their enemies are all fully consistent with Ron Paul's positions as well.

Unless Rand is a supporter of US government financial aid to Israel (a matter which he skillfully skirts around in this article) their actual stances here don't appear to be different on any matter of substance; the gap is only in the way they package things, as though one is saying, "The glass is half empty," while the other announces "The glass is half full." And for the record, assuming that I am correct in my perception of Rand's position here, I support both.

garyf| 4.23.10 @ 3:50AM

In article VI the constitution stipulates that the US will honor all debts and "engagements" accepted prior to the establishment of the United States. Some of these would fit the definition of foreign aid. The founders understood, as Red Phillips patently does not, that any credible claim to national sovereignty subsumes acknowlegement of previous favors and benefits received and the obligations attendent to them. Having received them and then acknowledged that it was bound to such obligations, the nascent US entered the domain of sovereign nations that had always paid tribute or made loans to, bought favors from or entered into treaties (article 2, section 4) with other states since the beginnings of human history. All of these arrangements, including treaties, may be likened to foreign aid. Certainly they all cost money, incur obligations and involve entanglements with foreign states. I wonder what Mr Phillips would say about a treaty that actually stipulated foreign aid in its language. Unconstitutional? It is true the constitution doesn't actually use the word "foreign aid." It also says nothing about horses. Yet the founders probably rode them, or were drawn in carriages, to the convention every day. However, there were treaties with the Indian tribes that did address horses, e.g., the Hell Gate Treaty of 1855, which did include, inter alia, a 120K aid package and a blacksmith shop. Apart from this observation, I will make no other horse references in responding to Mr. Phillips.

Sean| 4.23.10 @ 10:05AM

So what current treaty demands that we pay tribute (foreign aid)? You make no sense at all. You argue about something that could be Constitutional, a treaty, but there is no treaty.

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 4:41PM

I do not agree with the interpretation of the Constitution that puts treaties on an equal footing with the Constitution itself. This is a mistaken interpretation and not what the Founders originally intended. So a treaty can not rightly subvert the Constitution. For example we couldn’t sign a treaty with China that authorizes China to confiscate the weapons of Americans in direct violation of the second amendment. Likewise a treaty could not authorize or mandate the Fed Gov to do something outside its constitutionally enumerated powers.

One could justify military aid to an ally engaged against a common enemy, for example, on the basis of the national defense justification in the Constitution. There might also be expenses associated with the normal course of diplomatic affairs that would be within the purview of the conducting of foreign affairs which is a proper constitutional function. But foreign welfare for foreign welfare’s sake is not an authorized expenditure. If conservatives believe that corporate welfare is unconstitutional (unauthorized) and welfare to individuals is unconstitutional then how is there an exception for welfare to foreign governments? In fact our aid to Israel is both foreign and corporate welfare as we give them money to purchase weapons from US weapon’s manufacturers. So do you really want to make the case “Get GM off the dole. Get welfare queens off the dole. But keep healthy and solvent countries like Egypt and Israel and fat cat weapons manufacturers on the dole?” Whatever that may be, it ain’t conservatism.

Tim*| 4.23.10 @ 7:08AM

The United States has No written Treaty with Israel.

Unrelated to Foreign Aid , there was a Free Trade Agreement in 1985 ,which can be terminated at any time by written notification.

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The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Rand Paul and Israel American Me links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Rand Paul and Israel capital university links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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Mark| 4.23.10 @ 11:03AM

This article is wrong Rand is like his Father Dr.Ron Paul http://dailypaul.com/node/130166

Jay| 4.23.10 @ 11:57AM

I urge you all to research the committee called CAMERA. After you've found out what it is you will no longer be surprised that there are zionist trolls everywhere. They're favorite attack is "you're an anti-semite!"

Ron Paul is way more consistent than his son. I agree with some people who say Rand seems more like a typical politician.

Jeremiah| 4.23.10 @ 1:44PM

Crawl back under the slimy rock you call home, bigot.

andres| 7.24.10 @ 8:14PM

there you go again. everyone is a bigot and anti-semite who doesn't agree with your views. in the usa, we can still have different opinions, you dont have to agree, but all you do is insult and call people names. If anything you remind me of a bigot.

bigben| 4.23.10 @ 2:49PM

I am a Zionist Jewish American. I agree with all the Paulians who want to cut aid to Israel... Provided we also cut all economic and military aid to the Palestinians,Egyptians,Iraquis, Jordanians, Saudis and other Arab and Muslim states, including all aid flowing through UN agencies and other non-governmental bodies.
Any of you anti-Semitic (oops, I mean anti-Zionists) agree with that?

Red Phillips | 4.23.10 @ 4:40PM

bigben, you act as if you have caught them in some kind of conundrum. Actually I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who considers himself a conservative non-interventionist who would support cutting aid to Israel but leaving it for other countries. In fact, if he believed this it would disqualify him as such. As I pointed out above, the ending of ALL foreign aid to every country is a basic tenant of non-interventionism. No one that I know of is singling out ending foreign aid to Israel but not others, although Israel gets the single biggest check.

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Senator Schumer Has Something To Say « Around The Sphere links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…saying they disapprove, down from 55 percent approval last month. Good work, champ. Exit question: Is it in fact a sign of the End Times that a libertarian with the surname Paul is now issuing strong pro-Israel statements? And if not, how long can he keep that up before the Paulnut faithful start to defect? Steve Clemons: This is the 2nd time I know of that Schumer has publicly crossed the line when it came to…

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Rand Paul and Israel | Conservative Heritage Times links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

Heritage Times Conservative Heritage Times Home About Conservative Resources Discussion Forum April 23rd 2010 Rand Paul and Israel RedPhillips Posted under Interventionism & Israel Recently Rand Paul released a statement outlining his position re. Israel. The statement is generating some controversy on the non-interventionist right. If nothing else, the statement is clever. Read superficially it could easily be…

Derik Johnson | 4.23.10 @ 6:01PM

Lets Finish This

http://www.letsfinishthis.com/

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Rand Paul and Israel links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

About Wake Up America! Your Government is Hijacked by Zionism « Sanctions on Iran Is an Act of War Rand Paul and Israel April 23rd, 2010 | Author: Patriot Rand Paul and Israel http://spectator.org/blog/2010/04/22/rand-paul-and-israel Posted in Zionist Threat « Sanctions on Iran Is an Act of War Leave a Reply Click here to cancel reply. Name (required) Mail (will not be published) (required) Website Submit…

garyf| 4.24.10 @ 2:23AM

Hey Phillips: No one said a treaty was on a par with the constitution or could trump its prohibitions. Your challenge was where in the constitution does it allow for foreign aid. There have been innumerable treaties where payments have been stipulated. You acknowledge this when you split hairs by distinguishing "military aid," which you accept, from the other kind that you don't. Khruschev talked about getting as US aid SPAM during WWII. Does this kind of salty, greasy meat fit your definition of military aid or welfare? Incidentally, the constitution does not limit treaties to only those situations where a mutual enemy has been identified. There are plenty of treaties that deal simply with matters of commerce. Are all of these unconstitutional also? Moreover, if you can pay something pursuant to treaties under the constitution, you can also do it with appropriations.

Your Chinese example is particularly risable. Would it be a violation of any conceivable treaty or the constitution if the Chinese confiscated weapons of Americans in China? Where in the constitution does it say that it governs the actions of other nations within their own borders? If the Chinese are confiscating guns in the US, we have a bigger problem than a violation of the constitution. The comment about that the constitution "might" allow the US to pay for the operation of its embassies abroad is just odd. Would you expect other countries to pay us for that privilege?

The Constitution provides a basis for payments for all sorts of things that governments pay for that are not specifically enumerated within its few pages. This can take in foreign aid, purchasing canapes for White House guests or SPAM for allies.

Red Phillips | 4.24.10 @ 8:15AM

garyf, there are a lot of people who argue that treaties rise to the level of the Constitution due to some unfortunate phrasing in the Constitution itself.

Of course China would have the right to confiscate the weapons of Americans within their own borders. I did not mean to suggest otherwise. What I meant was we couldn't sign a treaty with China authorizing them to confiscate American weapons here as an end around against the second amendment. I was just trying to use an outrageous example to illustrate my point that treaties do not trump the Constitution. I thought you were reflecting the mindset I mention in paragraph one.

I do not think the Constitution authorizes military welfare for welfare's sake to allies just because they are allies. I think you could argue under national defense criteria that we could give military aid to co-combatants in lieu of sending our own troops for example.

Do you think corporate welfare is unconstitutional? Do you think welfare to individuals is unconstitutional? Do you accept that doctrine of enumerated powers?

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Tea Party, Charles Coughlin, and “Social Justice” « Spin, strangeness, and charm links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…by any definition of the word. While antisemitism is today a marginal phenomenon in the Conservative movement (to the point that even L. Ron Luap’s son, Rand Paul, feels compelled to repudiate his father’s crackpot ideas on Israel ), it has sadly become — fashionably disguised as “anti-Zionism” and Third-Worldism — at the very least respectable on the liberal left. [I hasten to point out…

Jay| 4.24.10 @ 5:18AM

Red Phillips, you're wasting your time arguing with these people. CAMERA pays people to go around the net arguing in favor of Israel. That's why I was urging you guys to look CAMERA up.

Jim| 4.24.10 @ 10:00AM

Paul has sold out America. He would have supported Hitler too. Give him enough money.

John Rodbeck| 4.24.10 @ 2:23PM

From reading the posts, not to mention the article, I can see that the readership is a bunch of neocon boobs, who have been roundly fooled by the con job put on by the state within the state. It is sickening and pathetic to see this adoration for the counterfeit antichrist Israel, all the while you rubes are being used by them to further THEIR interests, not America's. Israel is not a friend to anybody but Israel. They are a parasite and they have burrowed into your brains until you cannot think straight.

Steve Klein| 4.24.10 @ 6:03PM

Rodbeck, have you forgotten, Jesus was an Israelite? A Jew? A Zionist Jew and a chauvinist Jew. How can Israel be the anti-Christ, since Christ was a Jew who was "only sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel?"

Eat This Klein| 4.26.10 @ 6:07PM

Jesus was NOT a Jew --Benjamin Freedman
http://www.henrymakow.com/jesu.....jamin.html

Dan | 5.21.10 @ 11:13AM

How come jesus spoke aramaic which is a semitic language?
The jews don't acknowledge Jesus...
Isn't that the supreme case of antisemitizm?
Intelligent factual answers only please.

Camera indeed...

yeah sick and tired ditto

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ENGLISH Former FBI station chief Ted Gunderson warns against government faction killi links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…is www.tedgunderson.net ===========RAND PAUL Rand Paul, son of Congressman Ron Paul, is running for US Senate in Kentucky. Forget about this guy — a total sellout to ISRAHELL! http://spectator.org/blog/2010/04/22/rand-paul-and-israel ==========MY COMMENT ON GLENN MILLER Former Green Beret and white nationalist Glenn Miller is running fiery pro-white, anti-minority radio ads in his write-in capaign for US SENATE.…

Steve Klein| 4.24.10 @ 5:57PM

Mr. Klein, as you can see, we share that same last name. Unlike you however I am not a naif. In German, Klein means "small," as in small-minded. Need you be reminded Mr. Klein, "the apple does not fall far from the tree?"

axbucxdu| 4.24.10 @ 10:11PM

John Rodbeck| 4.24.10 @ 2:23PMwrote:"...Israel is not a friend to anybody but Israel."

And for evidence how about the Bush White House on one Ben-Ami Kadish: "These kinds of activities whether they occurred long in the past or present time are not the kind of actions we would expect from a friend and ally and we would expect that Israel would not be engaged in such activities," said (Bush) State Department spokesman Tom Casey.

I agree with you Rodebeck: There's nothing like Ron Paul that sets the cat amongst the Zionist (american?) pigeons...the fevered response is very instructive.

Heather Robinson | 4.26.10 @ 2:14AM

Thanks for your fair-minded treatment of Ron Paul's son. Interestingly, one could interpret his statement and position as reflecting the best that can be gleaned from his father's rigid and anachronistic ideas. The idea of complete non-intervention and zero foreign aid is probably as unrealistic as, say, Prohibition (is there any actual chance of adopting a policy of total isolationism in a global economy and a world increasingly by connected by media?) No more than there is of resurrecting Prohibition; it's just not realistic. and while some good might come of it, hypothetically, it cold also create terrible problems.

But perhaps at its essence, this idea of non-intervention which, when taken to an extreme, becomes silly, has some truth and merit: that is, rather than showering a plethora of countries with aid, and using the aid to attempt to bribe the enemies into good behavior, Americans should be more scrupulous about our tax dollars. In that context, Paul's scrutiny over foreign aid spending makes sense. What never does make sense, however, is for fiscally conservative politicians to focus in inordinately on the aid we give Israel. At least Israel is our steadfast ally and shares many values with us.

That said, what I liked most in Rand Paul's letter is his emphasis on Israel's right to defend itself against its own enemies, in its own way. It strikes me that this is an indisputably reasonable argument that even the most hard-core non-interventionist--in fact, above all a true non-interventionist--would second. For Ron Paul to have taken to the airwaves to condemn Israel for self-defense belies his anti-Israel feeling and the lack of consistency in his supposedly non-interventionist position. Israelis have never asked Americans--or anyone else--to fight and die for them. To call oneself a non-interventionist, and then mouth off in meddlesome manner about another country's decision to undertake a military operation in self-defense--gives the lie to this claim of non-intervention. Only a hypocrite would champion non-intervention, then butt in when someone is trying to defend himself. Seems to me Rand Paul--in recognizing Israel's right to defend its own people, against their own enemies--is articulating a true creed of non-interventionism that I can respect.

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music review blogs, on music review blogs, links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

I can image some of the reactions to seeing (or trying to find) a Canon HDDSLR buried under all of this gear. ” Why in the world would one go through this?” - someone might ask. Why not get“ x” camera. Well the long and short of it: the LOOK of these cameras is incredibly unique- the video coming out of these camera looks incredibly close to 35mm motion picture film (see image 13 in the slideshow for a good example of what separates this breed of cameras from the others.) Pulling…

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Rand Paul’s new campaign ad featuring Sen. Jim Bunning’s Endorsement « Cubachi links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…Another plus in the Paul campaign, is Paul’s newest press release stating his 100% support for Israel as an important ally of the United States, and a country the US should defend, a sharp contrast to his father Rep. Ron Paul. “Israel and the United States have a special relationship,” Rand’s position paper begins. “With our shared history and common values, the American and Israeli people…

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Rand Paul kisses Israel's butt - Stormfront links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

Rand Paul kisses Israel's butt - Stormfront Blogs Recent Entries Best Entries Best Blogs Blog List Search Blogs Stormfront > News > Newslinks & Articles Rand Paul kisses Israel's butt User Name Remember Me? Password Forgot Password?…

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Rand Paul "I will never vote to condemn Israel" - Stormfront links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

Rand Paul "I will never vote to condemn Israel" - Stormfront Blogs Recent Entries Best Entries Best Blogs Blog List Search Blogs Stormfront > News > Newslinks & Articles Rand Paul "I will never vote to condemn Israel"…

Savannah| 5.4.10 @ 11:32PM

Screw you, Rand. I refuse to support ANY candidate who displays a willingness to sacrifice what's best for OUR country for Israel. That leaves almost no one left to support. So many Zionist ass-kissers, it's enough to make you puke. You'd think these guys all had dual citizenship or something. Pathetic.

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Anyone else realize - White News Now Forums links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

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5/8/10 Links | HBD Books links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

… What does it take? An IQ of 100? Kids in South Dakota make “White Pride” shirts. What is it about a low population density that makes youths so much mentally healthier? Rand Paul will never condemn Israel and calls for divestment from Iran. He’s got his eyes on the presidency. When he wins, then he’ll tell people the truth I hope. Jonah Goldberg asks if liberals are so horrified by the…

Ares| 5.19.10 @ 11:36AM

As many have already pointed out, there is no strategic reason for us to support Israel. Besides the fact that it is an apartheid state with strict immigration laws that only allow Jews to be citizens (and yet out government supports this state with money and weapons, all the while condemning its own state of Arizona for taking far less extreme measures just to keep out illegal immigrants), supporting Israel has made the US the second most hated country in the world only to Israel itself. America needs to start focusing on what is good for the 290 million + citizens of America instead of what's good for the mere 7 million foreigners in Israel.

Ava| 5.19.10 @ 8:32PM

All right you crazy anti-semites, I'm tire of this crap.

Here are the enumerated powers:
Congress' powers are enumerated in Section Eight:

Section 8: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;—And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED- SUPPORTING MILITARY ALLIES IS PART OF PROVIDING FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE. The gov also has the specific right to enact legislation to get any of those powers above done and to make administrative rules/ ALSO please note the gov has the power to regulate international commerce. So trade pacts or whatever is within the enumerated powers.

At least read the dam* thing if you are going to use it as a shield for jew hating.

dan| 5.21.10 @ 2:13AM

Rand Paul said he supported isreal's write to DEFEND it's self.
EVERY legitimate life form or sovereign being or country has that right.
That business in Lebanon where isreal got sent home ...where has anyone ever said truthfully that that was self defence?
The "kidnapped" soldiers were captured IN lebanon.
Rand Paul is doing what a half decent politician does... he is chosing his words.. it isn't his fault if people can't read...maybe he'll fix that too, if elected beyond the primary

dan| 5.21.10 @ 2:23AM

ooh my dear Ava
can you not lose a debate with out the
pottie mouth?

I guess if real, truly patriotic politicians did get elected and they followed the law that would be the end of the welfare check wouldn't it?
hey then you could go on TV and maybe you could win some of Ben Stein's money...
It isn't the same as earning a living. but it would be a good start...
but I warn you they beep out the pottie words and you must give CORRECT answers to win any money.
Are you even female?

Peter| 5.21.10 @ 12:45AM

Israel must survive by Her own merits, not a military holding force.

She must make sustained economic friends with the starving Palestinians, share Jerusalem [as an exemplar World capital] and address the human injustice that continues to be apartheid applied arrogantly against displaced native Arab people [a core source Muslim of anger, Gaza et al].

Israel will not [Karmically] survive unless these right actions are addressed, quickly. King Hussein is correct, the winds and weapons caches of war are gathering . . .

She is not the only nuclear state in the middle east [Saudi Arabia] and Iran is going nuclear to shift the 'balance' of diplomatic power.

With Mr. [Dimona] Vanunu back in jail, has anyone located or more importantly accounted for the all of the missing South African / Israeli co-developed nuclear devices? Gulf WMD?!?

May Peace finally be facilitated through right humane action, an opening heart and love.

The horrific Gaza civilian bombing footage has permanently changed the global perception of Israel. We know what isn't working. Time to change the equation.

What would Moses say?
What would Abraham say?
What would God say?

Listen to your hearts and do that . . .

Peace is possible.

God bless

Rudy Guiliani| 5.21.10 @ 12:56AM

All politicians are bad. Trust me.

Ozzy | 5.21.10 @ 1:23AM

Rand Paul is definately not his father, and that is a shame. However, I have alot more confidence in Rand Paul working to pass S 604 then anyone else whose running for Senate in Kentucky.

Lets keep our eye on the ball. Auditing the FED taking away their free money, is the first step in dismanteling the monster.

Manu| 5.21.10 @ 2:45AM

Before israel was created there was no muslim terrorism, there was no strife of arabs against americans. Basically israel is just a little country that survives off the aid and weapons america grants them. You americans send your kids to die fighting wars against the enemies of another nation in the sake of a bond that is very unclear. How does israel benefit america? i only see america benefiting israel. The zionist jews wield a lot of power in finances and media and you people have become their pawns. Read some history and you will see how the jews have attempted the same schemes over and over again on their host nations. Don´t be scared when people call you an anti semite, it is a meaningless term, many jews are against zionism, jews lived peacefully with arabs in palestine for millennia. Dont buy their B.S, anyone who supports zionism is morally lacking and a hypocrite, stand against them!

Jen| 5.21.10 @ 3:08AM

Disappointing that Rand Paul is his father's polar opposite in his views on Israel. Maybe they'll change if he goes to Israel and Mossad steals his passport details in order to arm one of its spies with a false identity to carry out a murder and the false identity becomes known to the world.

Wainwright| 5.21.10 @ 5:02AM

Americans are waking up to the dead weight Israel is for us. Can we have just one Senator that isn't a religious superstitious Zionist bought by AIPAC? Wouldn't a real free debate about the Middle East be healthy for us? Facts; Iran and Iraq were our closest allies at one time. Neither has attacked the US or was a threat to us; Israeli agents and terrorists have attacked the US many times; A few Examples; Lavon Affair; Beirut Marine barracks( MOSAAD knew in advance) ; 9/11; The JDL terrorists who planted bombs in California; The USS Liberty: The MOSAAD terrorists who murdered Alex Odeh in the O.C.; The illegal Stalinist-like spy ring in San Francisco by the ADL/MOSAAD (1994) ..... So is this how Israel thanks us for saving their butts in WWII-they extort another $30 billion from us and corrupt the Pentagon and Congress?

RichardWagner | 5.21.10 @ 7:25AM

Rand Paul should have just been honest and said that Israel is an awful little sewer. The jewish media is already attacking, and race baiting him anyway. What good has trying to play their games if they attack you anyway?

Jedi| 5.21.10 @ 7:25AM

Israel is run by Zionist fanatics - psychopaths who will do anything to foster their agenda and placate their own fears and paranoia about enemies around them. That includes conspiring to have the USA attacked and Arabs blamed for the attack - Mossad motto says by way of deception war will be carried out. Illuminist and fascist interests in the USA aided the 911 attacks for their own agendas. Israeli spies were caught cheering the 911 attacks and deported while innocent arabs were detained indefinitely - that's a special relationship between USA and Israel which has nothing to do with citizens' desire for peace and prosperity. Rand Paul is acting as a politician catering to the public's ignorance - whether he knows the truth is a matter of speculation.

Robert| 5.21.10 @ 8:33AM

Not one penny will I send to support this Ayn Rand Paul phony. Ayn Rand was a blind faith Zionist. Just like his name sake Rand Paul will drop his pants and bend over for the Neocons. -----DUMP RAND PAUL BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

Francis Dec| 5.21.10 @ 9:15AM

In June, 1967, the United States Navy's surveillance ship USS Liberty was sent to the Middle East to monitor the 6 Day War between Israel and its Arab Neighbors.
On June 8th, 1967, the Liberty was attacked without warning for over two hours by Israeli surface and air forces using rockets, torpedoes, napalm, and machine guns, leaving 70% of the crew dead or wounded; the highest US casualty rate since World War II.
Since then, the truth about that day has been obscured at the highest levels of the American government. The survivors of the USS Liberty and their supporters have been threatened, silenced, and denied both their medical benefits and their place among America's heroes for 40 years.What a friend we have in Israel, Oy Gevalt.

jake | 5.21.10 @ 9:18AM

Thanks for the link info Mark. You made a good point. these cointel-pro guys and trolls are out in force on this article of lies. Your point makes it clear these allegations about Rand are false and the American people are starting to see through the lies. these trolls and the establishment are very scared of Rand and rightfully so. I am sure these shill useful idiots are either clueless or know they are literally trying to tear apart the fabric of freedom by supporting establishment and anti-American views and lies. Get a grip you idiots, you will look back on this time when America needs good men and you screwed it up but supporting these clowns that are stealing your future. You may not realize it until your a.ss is in the middle of civil unrest and your family is starving. Its a shame, you idiots are not part of this NWO top tier elite power structure, so what do you think you will gain? you fools will not receive any award for being in denial or supporting the corrupt establishment and you will suffer along with all of us if we continue to destroy the constitution.

Bill| 5.21.10 @ 10:07AM

Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion

By David R. Francis, Christian Science Monitor
12/9/2002

This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, consulting economist in Washington For decades, his analyses of the Middle East scene have made him a thorn in the side of the Israel lobby.
Stauffer has tallied the total cost to the US of its backing of Israel in its drawn-out, violent dispute with the Palestinians. So far the bill adds up to more than 2x the cost of the Vietnam War'

Derek Darkly| 5.21.10 @ 10:09AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A....._Committee

Where there's smoke, there's fire...
'nuff said

Jake | 5.21.10 @ 10:19AM

You fools will see soon enough what you are doing to destroy our country and the constitution by thinking you are part of elite or the "collective" or think you are part of some "winning side" let me tell you something... YOU'RE NOT! your destroying your own future and will be part of the losing side just like the rest of us Americans! You are called out to pick a side! Liberty or tyranny! which is it?

nexus1| 5.21.10 @ 10:54AM

I noticed a couple of comment's stating Israel doesn't control the W. Bank And Gaza. That they are controled by Hamas. Here's a little FYI for you:
Hamas was created by Israel. So yes, Israel DOES control Gaza and the W. Bank.

As far as labelling people as "anti-semetic". I would say that each country in the world has corrupt people within their Gov. And Israel is no exception. Just because one speaks out against the corruption and hypocracy of their (and others) "leadership", does Not equate to the hating of all the Jewish people.
Maybe those who so easily/lazily use the "anti-semetic" label should attempt to open their minds up a little, to the POSSIBILITY that the world is not so black and white. That the world is not what you thought it was. That maybe, just maybe you have been duped. Swallow your pride, get off the ego trip and join the club. We've all been duped.

Kelly| 5.21.10 @ 10:58AM

Rand Paul knows you don't make it to DC without bowing down to the jewish masters that own the entire media.

Jake | 5.21.10 @ 11:33AM

Its comments like these and others that point out that some Americans and others are stuck wondering what to do or believe they cant do anything with out bowing down. I nor do most patriots with a spine and guts will not bow to any MAN, got it? grow a damn spine, suck in your gut and stand tall with the rest of the majority that wants freedom, liberty and climb out of that patriot closet you have shut your self in. chose a side because tyranny is here. your grandchildren will ask you one day... "what did you do during the time when America needed you the most"? Liberty or tyranny?

Ron| 5.21.10 @ 11:01AM

It is interesting to me to see that acutally some Americans are finally getting the idea about the Zionists and what they are doing. Rev 2:9, 3:9
Jewish imposters ect. Yes I have seen how they operate. I was aboard the USS Liberty when they tried to kill us all. Wake Up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dan| 5.21.10 @ 11:42AM

Ron
the way the liberty event has been handled is one of the saddest commentaries on the state of things today.
And to listen to the insults here from those that strafe the life boats of their allies....and those that pay their bills...can it get anymore dispicable?

to liberty and justice sir.

Daniel Miller| 5.21.10 @ 11:53AM

Oh, I'm not anti-semitic, which would include Arabs. I'm anti-Jewish, pro-liberty. No pun intended about the zionist holocaust-mongerers who attacked the USS Liberty.

Dr. Alan Sabrosky Ph.D was a ten-year USMC intelligence officer and a former director of studies at the US Army War College. And hes says Israel did 9-11. Your hero Gen. Petraeus and Adm. Mullen says Israel's intransigence (that means stubborness for the southern baptists that now worship lincoln's lie banner [American flag]). How many pv$$ies on here have even been anywhere near a recruiting station.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/.....tionalism/

What is with these idiot christers that worship the jew race rather than the actual God and messiah? Hell, modern Israel is the temple jew about which Jesus railed. Being anti-israhell isn't exactly the same as worshipping al quaeda.

The.world.is.going.my.way. :-)

Michael Rivero | 5.21.10 @ 12:10PM

If this document is genuine, I am very disappointed in Rand.

HOWEVER, as I pointed out yesterday on my radio show, the political establishment is terrified of the Tea Party and desperate to derail the anti-incumbent momentum. So before everyone starts screaming about Rand Paul's "betrayal", I want to remind everybody of Watergate, where Muskie's candidacy was destroyed by fake letters written on stolen Muskie stationary by Donald Segretti and in the case of the "Canuck Letter" by Ken Clawsen.

The people opposed to Rand Paul got where they are today by playing dirty. Never forget that!

Or have you already forgotten the forged Niger documents that tricked us into Iraq?

Before we start bandying these damaging claims about Rand Paul around, I want to see his statements about Israel on video tape.

Jim| 5.21.10 @ 12:21PM

Bravo to all of those people who are exposing ISreal for what they really are..a fascist, racist country..and to the morons who promote this "special relationship" theory....get the hell out of the US!!! You are traitors! The US military doesnt support this "special relationship" just the shills in congress..this special relationship is endangering the lives of the US troops..that from the generals themsleves..I think its time for a wholesale EXPULSION...of pro-zionist fanatics from the country

dan| 5.21.10 @ 12:47PM

If an American legitimatly critisizes an isreali he is an anti semite.
When an Isreali slaughters a bunch of his allies ala
the USS Liberty what would you call that?

Tom Jones| 5.21.10 @ 12:53PM

We have to ask why the largest PAC in Washington is a lobby group for a foreign nation, Israel. Clearly they have a disproportionate influence of US foreign and domestic policy. The tail wags the dog...

iH8zionists| 5.21.10 @ 1:18PM

JEWS DID 9/11. JEWS CONTROL OUR SENATORS AND GOV'T AGENTS. JEWS CONTROL MEDIA. JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING. WAKE UP AND FIGHT THEM!!

Cuinn| 10.22.10 @ 5:05AM

I'm a christian zionist and you're correct, Jews do control the media...leftist, secular anti-Israel, self loathing Jews like George Soros control the media.

Manu| 5.21.10 @ 1:23PM

Religious people are the pest, in fact the jews showed their long term vision when they created and exported to europeans such religious manipulative nonsense. Yes it was because the jews wanted that the OT was translated, if they hadn´t seen a purpose in that it wouldn´t have been. They made us adopt their supremacist religious myths at face value, it was clear to them which the outcome would be. And besides that now we have the freaks who go insane over the book of revelations and base their existence off that, regardless of who wrote it or what really means. An obtuse piece of writing that has infinite ways of being interpreted. One way of interpreting of course is that we must support israel to gain a place in paradise or something. Thats pretty similar to the idiotic beliefs of muslim fanatics actually. People think they will gain God´s favor if they support a murderous and deceiving nation as ashkenazim israel. Humanity shapes gods to their own convenience, they create gods that suit their agendas, and you really expect for you a heaven or paradise? Do good and sacrifice for the wellbeing of earth and your fellow humans and maybe you will have a shot to it, but as long as you remain murderers and hypocrites no faux book or belief will help you with that.

American| 5.21.10 @ 3:07PM

It was the Israeli Mossad that carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It was a false-flag operation meant to inflame American public opinion against the Muslim world. You can read specifically how the Mossad carried out 9/11 here:

http://www.bollyn.com/index.php#article_11310

crimea| 5.21.10 @ 3:15PM

That all AMERICAN officials have to be pre-approved by a "small, shitty little country" (as one EU diplo characterized it) IS OUTRAGEOUS.
Because of the stealth coup by these dual citizens who use corruption, rampant tribal nepotism and smear blackmail against their legit opponents, our Congressmen run like trained dogs to do the bidding of a foreign power. A power that we ourselves created! Look around you America, and see where this takeover has gotten you. Do the demographics. Who disproportionately controls the major nodes of power in the gov, press, finances, education etc ?? All given total immunity under threat of "anti-semitic" censorship card.
For decades this clique has been angling to get us to incur the damages for all their mid east wars- and have largely succeeded- with a "massive flotilla now on its way to the shores of Iran". As Netanyahu once told Pollard- when the Americans have been sucked dry, we'll move onto the next.
WE OWE ISRAEL NOTHING.
America FIRST and those who espouse otherwise should be kicked out of office NOW!

stephen| 5.21.10 @ 5:35PM

The US of Israel is a zionist machine for the MOSSAD terrorists who have bases throughout the entire world. Any lacky who supports Israel in any way other than to hand back the land they STOLE from the Palestinians needs to be horsewhipped. AIPAC and the ADL are the KGB (also run by jews) in the western world. I tell as many people as I can about the wicked ways of the jews, strangley most people are starting to listen!!!

Pierre| 5.21.10 @ 9:27PM

Oh boy!... Another misguided nutcase and a war monger to boot!

Joe S.| 5.22.10 @ 10:26AM

Notice, he's not saying that he'll support Israel financially or that he'll go to war with Iran.

I'd like a commitment to neutrality and peace to be more explicit, but what he's said here isn't a deal-breaker. Yet.

Joshua Fielden| 5.22.10 @ 2:40PM

I think most people (other than Rand Paul ) have got it.
Swastica =Blue Star of David.
Without Israel there would be no need for security checks at airports.
Without Israel there would be no war in Iraq.
Without Israel there would be need for the US print and TV media to give out dishonest info to keep the people in ignorance.
Without Israel the list goes on and on.
Rand Paul is a prostitute without morality.
These are Jews (or are they really Jews ?) that move into an area touting a bible and a rifle and tell the people living there to fuck off out of their houses and olive groves. They use military force to make life unbrearable for those inhabitants.
Israel is a disgusting NAZI State.

MAD JEWESS | 5.29.10 @ 3:13PM

Joshua-MORON.
Self-hating, America hating, Israel threatening pos.
THAT is what you are.
When a holocaust happens in Israel, because they ARE, in fact, OUTNUMBERED 500/1- I WILL remember YOUR treachery against your own brethren. You think people dont whisper about you? A person that sells his OWN people out is a TRAITOR that can NEVER** be trusted-EVER.

You think these friggin Jew haters don't see your back stabbing BS?
They say you are a TRAITOR to America, AND Israel.
GO DIE.
Yimach Shemo Vizchero!!
http://www.masada2000.org/list-A.html
GO JOIN the growing list of you HUSSEIN VOTERS YOU SCHMUCK!
Neutari Karta SWINE.

Hammer| 11.11.10 @ 5:08PM

The Muslim world was murdering people before Israel.When Israel was formed the Muslims kicked out all Jews from Muslim lands killed and robbed them,They went to Israel.The only Democracy in the middle east.Gays are not killed and woman are not treated like beats.Muslims have so many countries but will not let Israel live on a small piece of land.Oh by the way in world war 2 the Muslims were on the side of the Nazi's this is before Israel get your facts you pro Muslim Terror you

Easterling| 5.22.10 @ 3:48PM

Is Rand Paul named after Ayn Rand*? (*born Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum)

Just wondering?

Dr. Ed Kendrick | 5.22.10 @ 6:47PM

Very pleased to see all those who are awake to Israel--not Muslims--did 911 along with gentile and Jew traitors within the U.S.

ReDiscover911 com

Israeli Zionists and Neocon zionists had motive, means and opportunity to blame Muslims for 9/11.

Read Gaza and the Psychophaths

Ian| 5.24.10 @ 2:57AM

I am amazed that the notion that Israel is America's "friend and ally" can continue to persist so stubbornly amongst some sadly deluded Americans. The assertion that Israel is, or ever has been, America's friend is easily disproved by the USS Liberty and Jonathan Pollard affairs. And the assertion that Israel is America's ally is such an obvious joke. How many troops did Israel send to help America in its many wars of the last 50 years (not counting, of course, the "advisors" on interrogation, torture, and general dirty-dealing after the battles have been fought), and how much precious Jewish blood (not to mention also, of course, the treasure that she has mostly acquired from America n the first place) does anyone believe Israel would be willing to shed (and spend) to defend the gentiles of America should such a situation ever arise? "The Chosen" sacrificing their blood or even a shekel of their loot to help the goyim? Now, that would be a real turn up for the (Talmudic) book.

Richard Schennberg | 5.24.10 @ 6:21PM

Israel gave the US Soviet captured aircraft and tanks built in the USSR. The US used these to develop the aircraft and weapons we used to win the cold war. Israel warned the US about anti-US terrorism, but the CIA downplayed the treat, even allowing dozens of their own agents to be murdered by Hezbollah with no US response.

bob| 5.26.10 @ 11:56AM

Let's summarize: The jews are God's chosen and without them America will shrivel and die!

MAD JEWESS | 5.29.10 @ 2:47PM

Bob,
Thats an awfully nice thing to say, but left wing Jews are SATANS choice.
You have to be careful. You cannot blindly support Jews that are communists, they are 100% in DISOBEDIENCE to HaShem. Supporting them, is supporting abortion, gay marriage, etc..
Be discerning.
There are some fabulous Jews, unfortunately, MOST of them live in ISRAEL- America is stuck with the DREK ones.
You are welcome to come to my site, it is inflammatory :)

SickofIsrael| 6.6.10 @ 7:08AM

Of course Israel carried out 9/11. Who gained the most from that tragedy??? Pissrael. Now, stupid Americans are dying by the thousands fighting Israel's enemies in the middle east. It's amazing how many Americans are waking up to this fact. Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former head of the American war colleges, has gone public concerning Israel's involvement in 9/11. Most people know Israel is the major cause of world strife. And people are becoming less concerned with being called anti-semitic. Israeli's are not semitic! The Jews that run Israel are not the Jews of the Bible! They are Eastern European Khazaris who adopted Judaism in the 8th and 9th centuries. They have no link to the original Israelites! They are known as Ashkenazi Jews. The true Israelites, the Sephardic Jews despise these white imposters for ruining Judaism's reputation. The Palestinians have more claim to being the true Israelites than these homosexual, frail, cowardly Zionists.

Rico Suave| 7.23.10 @ 1:23PM

These discussions are annoying. They invariably degenerate into ad-hom attacks since people put more passion into the subject than they do thought.

I am against labels, as labels only serve to classify. I will never judge someone as being a "lefty", a "jew", a "self-hater", etc... I will, however, judge people by their actions.

I believe if more people took the time to step back from the labels, that we'd all find that we have more in common than we have differences. We all, generally, want to live our lives free from fear and prosecution, and to be able to raise our families in such an environment. People are too busy squabbling over the things that don't matter to realize it.

spirittoo| 7.23.10 @ 1:50PM

Any politician that support the war criminal state of israel is not a friend of America. We need to get the zionists out of congress. Rand Paul is obviously one. Evidence strongly indicates israel played a role in the false flag 911 operation, and they are no friend of the American people. Down with the zionists and the war criminal state of israel.

X| 7.23.10 @ 2:11PM

HOW DISAPPOINTING.

Johnny Brutal| 7.23.10 @ 2:42PM

""EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;

WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001"

and Ron Paul

jb| 7.23.10 @ 2:53PM

my bad Rand not Ron :(

Sorry Ron

flek| 7.25.10 @ 9:20AM

Rand Paul a whore for Israel...say it isn't so.
No vote from me!
How in the hell do we shake these parasites out of the US pocketbook?

JC| 9.5.10 @ 3:48AM

Are you guys serious? Did you guys even read the whole article?

Rand says he supports "trading" with Israel and other foreign countries. He then talks about avoiding "military and financial aid" to countries hostile to Israel. This doesn't apply to countries that are hostile to Israel, but includes Israel itself.

He hints that Israel's political decisions should not be influenced by America and the UN. Instead, they should be independent. For without American intervention and influence on Israel, there would be a greater incentive for Israel to negotiate and have peace talks with neighboring countries.

What he is really trying to say is:

If Israel wants to go to war, then that is their decision to do so. We will defend the right for Israel to defend itself, but we will not support them with financial and military support. Israel has nuclear weapons, so they can adequately defend themselves. They don't need American intervention, and we will not intervene it's neighboring countries by providing them with money and weapons.

In the end, he's playing it at their game. The establishment likes to smear people with the term "anti-semite". The point is to let the countries in conflict settle it on their own. When they are tired of fighting, there will be peace. But by giving both sides of the war money and weapons, the battle continues.

jOjo| 10.21.10 @ 9:01AM

Although I do believe we should not meddle with Isrealif they wish 2 take action against Iranm this is a very touchy subject in my personal view. The U.s in my view should not interrupt or meddle in the affairs of the Iranian energy policies. If the man wishes to have nuclear energy, a cheap and renewable type of energy, then who are we to tell him he is not allowed?? Would we be happy if we wanted Nuclear energy and Iran came in and said no! You cannot enrich your economy, grow your country, or have cheaper energy? I also think we give to much credit to Isreal, as they also have a corrupt puppet government. I agree more with Ron Paul's views. Much much more!

George| 11.6.10 @ 12:30PM

In addition to the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty, AIPAC & Pollard spying on us--so few people know about the JDL, a Jewish terrorist organization that carried out at least 15 attacks on US soil.

Look it up.

Buy Plasma HDTV Black Friday | 11.11.10 @ 8:57AM

How in the hell do we shake these parasites out of the US pocketbook

Hammer| 11.11.10 @ 4:57PM

Israel the only democracy in the middle east.Where gays are not killed .Girls are not stoned.Girls can go to school and not be treated like beats.Look up Youtube Palestinians danced in the streets on 9-11.They thanked god for 9-11 while my family was burning.Muslims hate those that are not Muslims.In the Curran you cant treat non Muslims bad.You can have non Muslim slaves like they have in Somalia and Darfur.The Muslim slave Capitol of the world.What is wrong with you

Hammer| 11.11.10 @ 5:12PM

Wow what a crazy pro Muslim terror propaganda .So we Americans are not fighting Muslims terror in Iraq and all over the world.What about the crusades was that the fault of the Jews?

Hammer | 11.11.10 @ 5:15PM

Over 50 Christians murdered in baghdad in a church last week by Muslim terror.Where is the out rage??????????

Mark Feld| 1.30.11 @ 7:19AM

Israel is considered equally, or even more important, than our own national secuirity. Jews, through their control of vast areas of wealth in America, have hijacked out national interests for their purposes.. Estimates range all the way up to 70%.
Whatever the figure, it is huge and immensely out of proportion to their 2% of the population in American society.

Today, in 2011, the U.S.A. is totally dominated by Jews. Virtually every newspaper or magazine is owned by Jews. Their self-serving propaganda constantly fills the TV screen. The Federal government and Federal Reserve is totally under Jewish control. US military forces are the pawn of Israel. The banks, the markets are theirs. They systematically denigrate our Founding Fathers and our heritage and our Constitution.

The American Spectator

The Spectacle Blog

Rand Paul and Israel

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