There will be much more to say along these lines in a full column
later this week, but for now, this should suffice: Bart Stupak,
Kathy Dahlkemper, Indianans Ellsworth, Donnelly, and Hill, and
all their supposedly pro-life AND pro-fiscal-integrity colleagues
who voted for Obamacare are in for a life of unmitigated hell.
They should, they must, they will never, ever, ever be allowed to
forget what they have just done to America. They should be
hounded and haunted for the rest of their lives. What they have
done to the social compact is monstrous. What they have done to
the economy is unforgiveable. What they have done to our
republican (small ‘r’) system of government is vicious and vile.
And what they have done, yes, to unborn children, is a grave
evil.
There was one man who did uphold his principles. He represents a
district that is 72 percent Democrat (if I remember the numbers
correctly). But all along he said that he would not abandon his
conscience when it comes to abortion. That man is Anh “Joseph”
Cao, R-LA. Here is what he said in a press release:
In a letter to President Obama explaining his vote, Cao
wrote: “To me, a moral ethicist and a former Jesuit
seminarian, and to literally tens of thousands of the
Louisianans I represent, the Senate abortion language is
dangerously insufficient.”
Cao pointed out that under the Senate bill:
• Federal vouchers could be used to purchase
insurance plans that cover abortion on demand;
• Federal courts could force community health
clinics receiving billions of dollars in new federal funding to
perform taxpayer-financed abortions;
• Governmental agencies could be free to
discriminate against physicians and nurses who object to
abortion as a matter of conscience.
Cao noted he voted in favor of the House health care reform
bill only after the House adopted the Stupak-Pitts Amendment,
applying the 1976 Hyde Amendment, which upholds federal law
banning federal funding of abortion except in case of rape,
incest, or danger to the life of the mother. The Senate,
however, declined to adopt similarly strong language in its
version, paving the way for a large-scale expansion of federal
abortion funding.
Cao dismissed the Administration’s announcement this afternoon
that President Obama would issue an Executive Order declaring
the Senate bill will not interfere with the existing ban on
federal abortion funding.
In his letter to the President, Cao wrote: “Despite your
Administration’s best intentions, the Executive Order you plan
to issue stating that abortions would not be funded under the
Senate Bill could be overturned in the federal courts given
their consistent rulings that the federal government must pay
for abortions unless Congress explicitly adds the Hyde
Amendment prohibiting them.”
He is right. And as
Neil Patel of the Daily Caller put it, “Bart Stupak is either
not very smart or not very honest.” Or both dumb and dishonest.
Joseph Cao figured it out. Bart Stupak, on the other hand, lived
up to the first four letters of his last name, in combination
with his id.
As a reminder, to quote Freud on what an “id” is:
It is the dark, inaccessible part of our personality, what
little we know of it we have learnt from our study of the
dream-work and of
the construction of neurotic symptoms, and most of this is of a
negative character and can be described only as a contrast to
the ego. We all approach the id with analogies: we call it a
chaos, a cauldron full of seething excitations… It is filled
with energy reaching it from the instincts, but it has no
organisation, produces no collective will, but only a striving
to bring about the satisfaction of the instinctual needs
subject to the observance of the pleasure principle.
Stup. Id. That about says it. And if he thinks he will be ever
live it down or be allowed to forget it, well, maybe he doesn’t
think very well.
Mike M| 3.22.10 @ 10:46AM
Stupak (or shall we call him "tupac") is now officially a "Baby Killer."
John W| 3.23.10 @ 2:15AM
No...he's not. That's just dumb. Don't be a drama queen.
No Liberals| 3.24.10 @ 2:33AM
Like hell he isn't, so is that bastard, Obama.
DAC| 3.22.10 @ 10:59AM
Folks: spare the surprise over what Stupak and most of the other nominally pro-life Dems did. The only question was when they were going to turn their arses up and accept the Maobama shafting, not whether.
The modern Democrat party is fundamentally about two things: baby killing and rationing. And the two are related: rationing applies to every conceivable economic activity, including the provision of health care, energy consumption, food and water, and, outside of cold economics, the most important rationing, that of human beings themselves. This is Progressivism 101, Dear Leader (like many fascists, socialists and communists before him) said exactly what he was going to do, and now he's on his way to doing it, with the help of 219 useful idiots. Whether Stupak and his cronies are true believers or not, they've taken the next big step towards a stultifying totalitarian state--Maobama knows it, and that's why he's celebrating.
Regulate, tax, control, ration, marginalize/eliminate/terminate those who resist. It's a pattern that anyone remotely familiar with modern history ought to recognize. There is neither an end to it (for the Dems), nor any ability to compromise with it (for those who resist).
So, Americans really now break down into three kinds of people: those who will resist this; those who will try to kill (the last step of the rationing process) those who resist; and those who think they will be the ones doing the killing, but are wrong, and will be eaten by their own (actually, FYI to the latter, that's the first step, so if you're with the rationers/killers, you're making a pretty critical bet; see, e.g., Trotsky).
Scott Verder| 3.23.10 @ 2:12AM
Wow...what a nutjob
No Commies| 3.24.10 @ 2:34AM
Truth hurts--huh, Commie?
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Dems Ignore American Majority: ObamaCare Rammed Through in the House, 219-212… No Re links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Siegfried X| 3.22.10 @ 11:04AM
That's why I don't support any Democrats. Or RINOs. They are all the same.
D. Morris| 3.22.10 @ 11:45AM
Told you ObamaCare was going to pass--don't doubt me.
JBR| 3.22.10 @ 11:07AM
Stupak got his payoff 2 days before the vote - $750,000 "grant" from the FAA to upgrade the 3 small airports in his district. Surely, from out of the clear blue and surely a coincidence of timing (/s). The abortion stuff was just a ruse. He got his bag of silver. He will rot in Hell.
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 11:10AM
"Stupak's Betrayal Merits Fierce Revenge"
Quin's in super villain dialogue mode.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 11:44AM
Tim and Tim,
One of you must change screen names. I like the funny Tim, and detest the other Tim/Troll.
Quin,
Once again I find myself sounding like a groupie, but thanks for cutting the bad guys down...again.
You just keep on exposing their knickers.
Please keep feeding us the facts, the best you understand them.
Tim| 3.22.10 @ 1:42PM
Texas
I'm not attacking Quin, just tweaking. Don't we need some cheering up? I expect his next post will be titled; "Fools! I'll destroy them all!"
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ralph mendoza| 3.22.10 @ 11:16AM
To all those attacking Congressman Stupak, who were not on the battlefield:
Imagine what it is like to be a general under intense attack from all sides, who has the news media against him, who already lost many soldiers and who has already had supposed-allies turn against him. The general very bravely keeps fighting deep into enemy territory and many believers hope and pray he may still achieve total victory. But many of his small remnant of remaining soldiers tell him, “Accept the concession being offered by the enemy, or we will also desert you.” The general realiizes there is serious danger of losing the battle with NOTHING to show for it, so he decides to surrender for that concession offered by the enemy. Now you want to condemn that general and withdraw your support from him? I say “God bless Congressman Stupak,” and the ones we really need to work on all all the other soldiers and allies who deserted him!
gran torino| 3.22.10 @ 11:29AM
No: Stupak was definitely between a rock and a hard place, but he was doomed no matter which way he went. No and he incurred the wrath of his fellow Dems--although he could have switched parties and thumbed his nose at all of them. Yes and he incurred the wrath of everybody else.
But at least a no would have spared his country untold agony. The yes just makes Obama more arrogant and obnoxious.
He has no sympathy from me.
Nick| 3.22.10 @ 11:47AM
Mr. Mendoza,
May I sell you a bridge in Brooklyn?
Missy| 3.22.10 @ 11:51AM
Pity Stupak? Surely you jest, sir. I vilify Stupak, I mourn the untold millions of innocent lives he's condemned to death.
"A hero dies once, a coward dies a thousand times."
Stupak is a coward.
Cal Mark| 3.22.10 @ 12:04PM
You obviously don't understand what elected office is about.
Sometimes, it's about taking a stand--particularly when that stand is the majority view--even though it will ruin your career.
Kind of like the single Senator who cast the deciding vote not to convict President Andrew Johnson at his impeachment trial in the Senate.
It's called courage. And Stupak is a coward and a sellout.
Becky| 3.22.10 @ 12:08PM
I didn't know for sure we were at war here, but thank you for clarifying that. So we are the enemy and Stupak, as my representative did good by me? He wrote me a reply saying he stood for life. I took him at his word.
He made his bed. He can lie in it.
Roy| 3.22.10 @ 1:16PM
I know what you mean - but I don't quite buy it. If they told him "We already have the votes, so take what you can get", he should be saying that right now. And he would very likely have done more by publicly falling on his sword than by accepting a legally meaningless EO.
But I do agree about one thing - I doubt he got enough support. Seeing him stand up for so long was the best I've liked a Democrat for..since..ever? And yeah, he sold out so I'd now prefer a Republican - but the real enemy is Pelosi and her hordes of "pro-choice" infant-vivisectors.
Bob Miller| 3.22.10 @ 1:25PM
What about the general who accepts as the price of his surrender a concession that he knows is 100% phony? To call Stupak any kind of leader is to stretch the whole idea of leadership. His followers melted away because neither he nor they were fully committed. Also, why should abortion have been the only make-or-break problem for them at any point? Didn't they see or care that the whole bill was an assault on the Constitution and financial prudence?
Duke| 3.22.10 @ 2:35PM
Many other Dems in Congress did not stake out a moral anti-abortion ground. Stupak did, going so far as to assemble a dozen like-minded Dems. Continuing your military analogy, he alone put himself 'behind those enemy lines'. To give up the principles which put him behind those enemy lines once he found himself there is to change his mission to one of suicide, as he is finding out.
Cliff| 3.22.10 @ 11:25AM
Siegfried X - "That's why I don't support any Democrats. Or RINOs. They are all the same. "
It's ironic that you chose THIS blog to post this on, because it EXPLICITLY proves you wrong BEFORE you even posted it.
Cao is the definition of a RINO in the sense that he is not a conservative, or at least hasn't voted like one in Congress. He's voted to the right of his district, but WELL to the left of most of the Republican caucus. As this article points out, he voted "yes" the first time on the HC bill.
Yet, he voted no this time without the abortion language.
So the difference between a Democrat and a RINO is quite clear. With a Democrat, you get a vote for public funding of abortion. With a RINO, you don't.
Siegfried X| 3.22.10 @ 11:29AM
I hope American Spectator uses this kind of language when REPUBLICANS like McCain, Scott Brown, Snowe, Collins, and Hatch vote with the Democrats.
It's kind of bizarre for a Republican magazine to call it a "betrayal" for a Democrat to vote with his own party.
The lesson is that we should NEVER vote for or trust ANY Democrat. They are all bad.
Siegfried X| 3.22.10 @ 11:33AM
"With a Democrat, you get a vote for public funding of abortion. With a RINO, you don't. "
If they always vote with the Republicans, then they aren't RINOs.
They are called RINOs specifically because they sometimes help Democrats pass legislation, like some RINOs voted for Obama's stimulus package. In those cases the RINO is just another Democrat.
It seems that some conservatives just woke up, so they missed the 20 years where McCain and the RINOs helped Democrats again and again and again. Each of those times the Republicans who were paying attention felt just as bad as the Tea Partiers do this morning.
Welcome to the (Tea) Party. Lots of us have been here for years.
Liberal Reader| 3.22.10 @ 11:43AM
Is he related to Stupac Shakur? He might become our next president.
wtfci| 3.22.10 @ 11:50AM
Dan Lipinksi also voted against HR3590 for passage.
He was in the Stupak bloc. The leader obviously folded like a cheap suit.
Stupak was advised poorly. He chose poorly. Enjoy those lands and titles Bart. They're only temporary.
Nik| 3.22.10 @ 2:14PM
However Lipinski did go on to vote for the Reconciliation Act immediately afterwards.
bill h| 3.23.10 @ 1:52PM
It may be a temp gig for Stupak, but he gets a smokin' retirement deal from Congress and a different health care package than he foisted on me Sunday night.
Sheila| 3.22.10 @ 12:19PM
Cliff, Cao was on the verge of caving many times, and the only reason he had the cover to vote "no" was because Stupak and his gang ensured the bill would pass without Cao's going on record as the only republican to vote for it. All those who trusted in Stupak were fooling themselves - including all the oh, so prescient pundits here and elsewhere - a democrat is a democrat is a democrat. All those here can continue their sound and fury signifying nothing - just like the republicans and their opposition consisting of maneuverings and chess moves and gentlemanly protests. All those who insist there is a difference between the parties, that there are honorable republicans, can continue to wait for November. After most incumbents are re-elected, with ample SEIU and illegal votes assisted by Holder's Justice Department, they can then claim it's on to 2012. I have never been in the habit of lying to myself or living in a dream world. You can all continue to insist that this will be repealed - just like Reagan eliminated the Department of Education, right? Go ahead and call me a defeatist; I prefer realist and as such I will continue to mourn my country. Declined and finally fell, 2010.
Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 1:15PM
Sheila,
Please quit being a weepy crybaby broad!
My grandmother shot Commanches off my grandad's back! Grow some guts, woman. You sound like the geldings here.
See my posts, above and below, and get off the PMS.
Roy| 3.22.10 @ 1:23PM
Ken - sure hope you're right.
My problem is this isn't a war, where the side that fights hardest wins. It's a popularity contest - and I've never been good at winning those.
DAC| 3.22.10 @ 12:26PM
All--back to my categories, Stupak is a Trotskyite; he thinks he's voting with the winners and preserving his ideological purity, when all he is doing is deluding himself and marking himself for elimination by the Leninists (Dear Leader, Pelosi). So he's among the third category I mentioned--in a way, the most dishonest of the bunch.
November 2010 will determine whether this country will become Rhodesia 1975 or Chile 1975 (post-Allende). The resistors hope the latter; Dear Leader and his Demon henchmen prefer the former. If the former, prepare to defend yourselves and your families, and/or move to a seceding state.
Roy| 3.22.10 @ 1:18PM
Wtf? Rhodesia? Wow.
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Ken (Old Texican)| 3.22.10 @ 1:08PM
Siegfried,
At last...at last...free at last! Finally the lines have been drawn so very clearly that only stupids can miss the point.
Our country is now in civil war.
I repeat.
Our country is now in the midst of civil war.
It started last night.
If you get a chance, go over to Fox internet and watch Rep Bhoener's speech last night.
We won't have uniforms. It is a sniper war....to the end. Snipers wear gilly suits......not uniforms.
Heh,
My gilly suit includes a jacket and tie.
You know, after thirty five years as an employER, I can only mention to you that buying group insurance for my people has always been ONLY a gesture to my people...that we care about them.
Our company gets a free write-off for health insurance...BUT DARN IT...we get the SAME write-off for a raise in salary to our people.
the COMPANIES I HAVE CEOed also pay out of the company's pocket ...every single dime of their peoples' deductibles.
I would be delighted to "guide" each employee to get their own insurance...and get them the same tax write-off....and give them a raise to pay for the net.
Once again, the communists, (pardon the shorthand), are liars.
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Charlotte Corday| 3.22.10 @ 1:20PM
Guillotine!
Dennis Imwalle | 3.22.10 @ 1:55PM
Stupak initially looked like a true believer on Fox television.
But then I got a real sinking feeling.....The wicked whitch of the House on early Sunday was ozzing confidence that she had the votes.That's when I knew the Srup Fix was on
RB| 3.22.10 @ 2:17PM
Dante's vision of the Inferno reserved to deepest pit in Hell for betrayers like Judas Iscariot. Stupak just reserved his place there, right next to Judas. BTW, Mr Mendoza--Stupak took 6 colleagues with him when he sold millions of babies for an airport expansion. The HC mostrosity passed by 2.
thedoctor2001| 3.22.10 @ 2:45PM
Did these so-called "brave" democrats vote before or after the vote got to 216?
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Liberal Fascism: Violating the Covenant | Chicago Daily Observer links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Lori| 3.22.10 @ 3:26PM
How about "2-step Stupak"
billsv| 3.22.10 @ 3:37PM
Don't think he even got his 30 pieces of silver
melody | 3.22.10 @ 3:51PM
I watched in absolute horror the debate and the final vote on Sunday.
What is happening to our country?
Oldefarte| 3.22.10 @ 4:12PM
I do not fault Stupak for doing what Democrats always do, and that is to provide WELFARE [which is what this legislation is]. Cao is a sub-human for being a Republican vote in favor of this garbage originally. Governmental funding of abortion is the only decent, useful provision of this excrement, since there should be an abortion clinic on every other street corner [to eliminate any future welfare recipients from the indigent poor that selfishly bring unwanted children into this world without the financial/economic means to take care of same]. If the government and politicians performed their jobs properly, schools would graduate students capable of financially caring fro themselves in life; and abortion clinics would be provided to enable the indigent poor a chance in life to grow as educated humans. If and until the poor can become successful users of various birth control methods, unwanted pregnancies will be a fact of life; and government [and taxpayers] will be eventual financial providers of their offspring. As to politicians in general, I'd suggest to Stupak, Cao, Democrats, Pilosi, Reid, and eventually Obama to begin planning an alternative employment status beginning pre-November!!!!!
Kevin Hernandez| 3.22.10 @ 5:15PM
I thought Bart Stupak was a man of honor. A man of integrety and his word. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. I can't beleive he once wore a Policeman's uniform. Can't imagine he ever had the courage to face down an armed subject in a dark alley. He couldn't even stand up to Nancy Pelosi. Instead of being a MAN and standing with the American people, he bent over and became Obama and Pelosi's bitch. How Pelosi and Stupak could have the gall to call themselves Catholic is a disgrace. Promises, promises. If even one abortion is done using American taxpayer money, these people should be ashamed.
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Pro-Life Judas: Bart Stupak’s Betrayal for a Few Pieces of Silver to Vote “Yes” on A links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Bob Belvedere | 3.22.10 @ 8:29PM
Quin: You left out the fact that Representative Bart Stupak Is A Cheap Crack Whore
Big Dog | 3.22.10 @ 11:03PM
Stupak and the others will rot in hell. Their constituents can send them packing in November.
There are no pro life Democrats
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The American Spectator : Amspecblog : Stupak’s Betrayal Merits … links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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Bob Miller| 3.23.10 @ 8:30AM
Their constituents were fooled before and, for all we know, will somehow be fooled again.
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Miller| 3.23.10 @ 10:37PM
Their constituents were fooled before and, for all we know, will somehow be fooled again.
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If You Can’t Beat ‘Em… Retire! Democrat Abortion Turncoat Stupak Says Won’t Run for links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
baronsternberg| 5.29.10 @ 9:33AM
Bollocks. Republitards believe what they want to believe, and live in their BizzaroWorld universe. What else is new?
Cody | 7.16.10 @ 2:35PM
How Pelosi and Stupak could have the gall to call themselves Catholic is a disgrace. Promises, promises. If even one abortion is done using American taxpayer money, these people should be ashamed...