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As Democrats have delayed releasing their final health care reconciliation bill, they’ve consistently tried to create the impression that they’re essentially finished, but are merely waiting on the Congressional Budget Office. For instance, House whip Jim Clyburn told Fox earlier that, “We are still waiting on the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, to give us its final number on what this thing will cost.” Yet the delay in releasing the bill and CBO score (which was initially supposed to come out as early as last week) has suggested something else – that early estimates from the CBO were bad, and they’re making changes to get the score that they want.

It now appears that this is precisely the case. A story from Congressional Quarterly reports:

House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care overhaul bill at an acceptable official cost estimate, but Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Tuesday they continue to plan a final vote this week. House leaders were to huddle late Tuesday afternoon, following a noon session of the full Democratic Caucus. There were reports they are having trouble drafting a bill that meets their budgetary targets….

Rank-and-file Democrats did not talk about the details, but said that the CBO scores had come up short.  “They were less than expected” in terms of deficit reduction, said Rep. Gene Green, D-Texas, who plans to vote for the bill.

There are several things that Democrats are up against when it comes to the CBO score. The most important is that, based on reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to reduce the deficit. The challenge is, that’s after assuming that the Senate bill is law. In other words, the reconciliation bill can’t claim any of the deficit reduction from the Senate bill, but rather it must reduce the deficit relative to the Senate bill. Yet the changes that are being talked about will cost a lot of money. This includes eliminating the “Cornhusker kickback” and offering enhanced Medicaid subsidies to all states, increasing subsidies for the purchase of insurance, eliminating the so-called “donut hole” on Medicare prescription drug benefits, and whatever else they put in the bill. At the same time, delaying until 2018 the enactment of the “Cadillac tax” would be scored as a reduction in revenue, and thus add further to the deficit. They’d have to make up the gap through tax increases as well as try to siphon “savings” away from the student loan bill. (More on that here.) But evidently it seems like they’re running into trouble on this front.

Another issue to keep in mind is President Obama’s pledge that the health care bill would cost “around $900 billion” The changes he’s proposed to the Senate bill would bring the total cost of health care legislation to $950 billion, according to the White House. Every dollar exceeding that will make it easier for Republicans to argue he broke his pledge, and at some threshold even the media will have to call him out on it. That isn’t a fight that Democrats are going to want to get into.

Also, Democrats need a CBO score that’s positive enough to help give Blue Dogs who claim to be fiscal conservatives an excuse to vote for the bill.

So this is why it’s Tuesday afternoon and we still haven’t seen a final bill or CBO score. They won’t release a bill as final if the score isn’t to their liking. Democrats could still keep making changes and coming up with new gimmicks to get the estimate that they want, but they do not have forever. If they want to pass a bill by Saturday night and post it online 72 hours in advance, then the latest we they could put things off would be until tomorrow.

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Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 4:22PM

C-B-Oh No! Budget Office Holds Up Health Reform? - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…perhaps even a bill-killer. Believe it or not, this debate really does have to end sometime. I wrote about the CBO's role as legislative gatekeeper in Reason's January issue. Update: Philip Klein has more on the specific troubles Democrats may be facing.  Help Reason celebrate its next 40 years. Donate Now! StumbleUpon | Digg | Reddit | Twitter | Facebook Try Reason's award-winning print edition today!…

jeanneb| 3.16.10 @ 4:39PM

At some point, can we stop calling it the "non partisan" CBO?

If they work for US (not the Dems) then the CBO should be releasing its scoring to US...not to the Dem leadership. This "hide the ball" while leaders tweak their numbers is as partisan as it gets.

Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 5:33PM

CBO Score Numbers Juggling Continues | Be John Galt links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…yet made it to the threshold with their CBO numbers.  They’re hoping no one notices everything they’ve dropped on the floor. This afternoon Philip Klein writes that the Dems Still Don’t Have the CBO Score They Want.  They have yet to release their reconciliation bill and its CBO score.  Klein quotes from the Congressional Quarterly: House leaders were to huddle late Tuesday afternoon, following a…

Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 5:47PM

Still no bill « Internet Scofflaw links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

media, and whatever else strikes my fancy. Home Comment policy   Still no bill Democrats have still not released their latest health care bill and its CBO score, because they didn’t like the CBO score they got: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care overhaul bill at an acceptable official cost estimate, but Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Tuesday…

Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 5:48PM

Undead Zombie Health Care Update : The Other McCain links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…UPDATE III : Hey, Steny: “Deem” this! UPDATE IV: Philip Klein (he’s the  Spectator’s ace on health-care coverage) reports that Democrats aren’t getting the score they need from the Congressional Budget Office. PREVIOUSLY: LIVE: People’s Surge vs. ObamaCare 2.0 Rep. Jim Jordan Speaks Out Against ObamaCare 2.0, Defends Tea Party Ryan: ‘Extraordinary and Unprecendented’…

Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 5:59PM

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Report: CBO set to score House reconciliation fix as more ex links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…than thought posted at 5:59 pm on March 16, 2010 by Allahpundit Share on Facebook | printer-friendly If you’re wondering why it’s taking them so long to show this bill to the public, wonder no longer. They’re caught in a tangle of benchmarks here: Per The One’s instructions, they need the total package to cost not much more than $900 billion over the first 10 years — according…

PCC| 3.16.10 @ 6:59PM

Dear Mr. Klein,

You may be right concerning the critical importance of a good CBO score as well as the necessity under reconciliation to reduce the deficit by $1 billion (although both of these figures are basically made out of whole cloth and are subject to accounting gimmickry).

However, to think that the Blue Dogs will take a principled stand or that President Obama will be constrained by a campaign pledge is ridiculous.

Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 9:44PM

Dems don’t have acceptable CBO score yet « Wellsy's World links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…through the original bill itself and the reconciliation fixes being cooked up behind closed doors, out of the sight of the American electorate. Philip Klein at the American Spectator cites a report from Congressional Quarterly that says that Democrats are less than enthusiastic about the CBO reports they’ve seen so far: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care…

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 1:06AM

No Bill + No CBO Numbers = Bad Sign for Obamacare | The Hayride links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…and sent it back to the CBO.  It means that the bill that the Democrats wanted was too expensive, and so they had to put in some more Medicare cuts or something. UPDATE:  Philip Klein has written the same argument over at the Spectator, and got the quotes to prove that this theory was correct.  I had only seen a vague Twitter rumor when I wrote this post. Speaking of which, we still don’t have a bill! …

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 8:55AM

Health care reform: Apparently the CBO isn’t cooperating | QandO links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…Green, D-Texas, who plans to vote for the bill. In reality it isn’t the Congressional Budget Office that is coming up short, but the cost of the bill they’re proposing as a fix. As the American Spectator reports: There are several things that Democrats are up against when it comes to the CBO score. The most important is that, based on reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to…

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 9:26AM

Health Care Reform Updates links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…of the nation’s top political commentators, legislators and intellectuals offer their insight into the biggest news story burning up the blogosphere today.” The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don’t Have the … Mar 16, 2010 … This afternoon Philip Klein writes that the Dems Still Don’t Have the CBO Score They Want. They have yet to release their reconciliation…

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 9:48AM

The end is near? | Worth Reading links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…was for it.  She is hardly alone on that side of the aisle. Another popular theme is Democrats show their true colors, a particularly dark shade of Red if you as us. Also here and here and here. Torturing the numbers. Only the beginning. If the president succeeds this week in convincing the House to approve his health care bill it will be like a legislative gateway drug to further addict the public to Big…

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 4:41PM

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Too good to check: Rep. Joe Barton says CBO score will excee links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…today< we cant vote on it saturday...stay tuned Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard is hearing the same thing. So why am I skeptical? Well, (a) by law, the reconciliation fix has to reduce the deficit above and beyond the reduction already provided for in Reid’s Senate bill — which cost less than a trillion. It’s technically possible for a more expensive bill to produce greater long-term…

psutopgun| 3.17.10 @ 7:12PM

I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of the USSR of America.

Pingback| 3.17.10 @ 8:50PM

Center for Disability Resources Library: AT Expo – Adapted Race … | Car Classificatio links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…the AT Expo March 18 from 9 am to 4 pm. Read the original: Center for Disability Resources Library: AT Expo – Adapted Race … Related Blogs on From The Score The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … Giants and the Jets settle the score with a coin flip. : Skinny Post The Score » Blog Archive » Sneak Peek: Seattle Celebrates … Related Posts The American…

Pingback| 3.18.10 @ 12:27AM

How can you repair your credit and fast? links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…with salad Virginia's Attorney General Tells Colleges: Ignore Gay Rights … No CBO Score For ObamaCare, But Here's A Cunning Plan : The Other … The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … WHERE IS THE CBO SCORE ???? What is the latest? « Gretawire » Health Care Reform Meets the Chicago Way – Big Government Technorati Tags: Credit, Fast, Repair…

Pingback| 3.18.10 @ 5:57AM

Brandon Jordan Okaloosa County Featured Agent on ActiveRain since 2007 | Washington C links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…United Realtors) Score: 266902 Crestview … See the original post: Brandon Jordan Okaloosa County Featured Agent on ActiveRain since 2007 Related Blogs on Score The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … What credit score do you need to get a credit card? | modd Hot Air » Blog Archive » Report: CBO set to score House … Related posts: Brandon Jordan Okaloosa County…

Pingback| 3.18.10 @ 12:55PM

The CBO score « Internet Scofflaw links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…possibly after the vote takes place. There’s a very good chance that the House will be voting on the bill without knowing its exact cost. The exact cost matters, as it turns out. The reconciliation instructions require that the reconciliation bill cut the deficit by at least $1 billion; otherwise it can’t be considered. Now, $1 billion isn’t much, but with the reconciliation bill adding $170…

Pingback| 3.21.10 @ 5:43PM

ERA Tucker Associates Real Estate: Open Houses, Sunday, March 14, 2010 | Rockland Cou links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…including qualifying courses for both salespersons and … Link: ERA Tucker Associates Real Estate: Open Houses, Sunday, March 14, 2010 Related Blogs on Has Written The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … Related Posts ERA Tucker Associates Real Estate: OPEN HOUSE WEEKEND 3/6/10 & 3/7/10 ERA Tucker Associates Real Estate: The bad news economy | Real … ERA Tucker…

Pingback| 3.22.10 @ 1:21PM

Bad News From the CBO? | Lawyer Don Hecker Communication links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…for, however, are the endless delays in releasing the bill Democrats are expected to actually vote on while they deem the other into law. Problems with the CBO score might just explain that delay. Philip Klein cites a report on CQ.com which is unfortunately behind a pay firewall that is way out of my price league: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care overhaul bill at…

Pingback| 3.25.10 @ 8:54AM

Budget Matters « Finance Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…increasing spending.  It can also be used to sell otherwise unpopular bills. However, it does have some drawbacks.  The CBO process can be gamed, but not infinitely.  And as Philip Klein reports, the deficit reduction instructions seem to be causing House Democrats some trouble: Yet the delay in releasing the bill and CBO score (which was initially supposed to come out as early as last week) has…

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Pingback| 3.27.10 @ 7:26PM

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … | Okaloosa County F links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…2007 Related Blogs on Score The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don’t Have the … What credit score do you need to get a credit card? .. Read more: The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don't Have the … Related Blogs on Credit Score How to build or repair credit score? | Liberty Credit Repair Smart tricks to improve your credit score | Best Breaking News raise credit…

ella| 4.26.10 @ 12:54PM

Their districts should do us all a favor and vote them out of office just to get Pelosi out of the speaker's chair - she's a monster, and I ain't just talking appearances. internet fax

Lisa| 12.20.10 @ 9:14AM

I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of the USSR of America. Mode Girl

Jessica| 5.13.11 @ 1:05PM

I was recently on Fähren reisen and met some democrats. They told me that this issue has been solved now and that the CBO has been found. On the fähren reisen they told a lot about their party which was very interesting for us europeans.

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