As Democrats have delayed releasing their final health care
reconciliation bill, they’ve consistently tried to create the
impression that they’re essentially finished, but are merely
waiting on the Congressional Budget Office. For instance, House
whip Jim Clyburn told Fox earlier that, “We are still waiting on
the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, to give us its final
number on what this thing will cost.” Yet the delay in releasing
the bill and CBO score (which was initially supposed to come out
as early as last week) has suggested something else – that early
estimates from the CBO were bad, and they’re making changes to
get the score that they want.
It now appears that this is precisely the case. A story from
Congressional Quarterly
reports:
House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a
final health care overhaul bill at an acceptable official cost
estimate, but Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Tuesday they
continue to plan a final vote this week. House leaders were to
huddle late Tuesday afternoon, following a noon session of the
full Democratic Caucus. There were reports they are having
trouble drafting a bill that meets their budgetary targets….
Rank-and-file Democrats did not talk about the details, but
said that the CBO scores had come up short. “They were
less than expected” in terms of deficit reduction, said Rep.
Gene Green, D-Texas, who plans to vote for the bill.
There are several things that Democrats are up against when it
comes to the CBO score. The most important is that, based on
reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to
reduce the deficit. The challenge is, that’s after assuming that
the Senate bill is law. In other words, the reconciliation bill
can’t claim any of the deficit reduction from the Senate bill,
but rather it must reduce the deficit relative to the Senate
bill. Yet the changes that are being talked about will cost a lot
of money. This includes eliminating the “Cornhusker kickback” and
offering enhanced Medicaid subsidies to all states, increasing
subsidies for the purchase of insurance, eliminating the
so-called "donut hole" on Medicare prescription drug benefits,
and whatever else they put in the bill. At the same time,
delaying until 2018 the enactment of the “Cadillac tax” would be
scored as a reduction in revenue, and thus add further to the
deficit. They’d have to make up the gap through tax increases as
well as try to siphon “savings” away from the student loan bill.
(More on that
here.) But evidently it seems like they’re running into
trouble on this front.
Another issue to keep in mind is President Obama’s pledge that
the health care bill would cost “around $900 billion" The changes
he’s proposed to the Senate bill would bring the total cost of
health care legislation to $950 billion, according to the White
House. Every dollar exceeding that will make it easier for
Republicans to argue he broke his pledge, and at some threshold
even the media will have to call him out on it. That isn’t a
fight that Democrats are going to want to get into.
Also, Democrats need a CBO score that’s positive enough to help
give Blue Dogs who claim to be fiscal conservatives an excuse to
vote for the bill.
So this is why it’s Tuesday afternoon and we still haven’t seen a
final bill or CBO score. They won’t release a bill as final if
the score isn’t to their liking. Democrats could still keep
making changes and coming up with new gimmicks to get the
estimate that they want, but they do not have forever. If they
want to pass a bill by Saturday night and post it online 72 hours
in advance, then the latest we they could put things off would be
until tomorrow.
…perhaps even a bill-killer. Believe it or not, this debate really does have to end sometime. I wrote about the CBO's role as legislative gatekeeper in Reason's January issue. Update: Philip Klein has more on the specific troubles Democrats may be facing. Help Reason celebrate its next 40 years. Donate Now! StumbleUpon | Digg | Reddit | Twitter | Facebook Try Reason's award-winning print edition today!…
jeanneb| 3.16.10 @ 4:39PM
At some point, can we stop calling it the "non partisan" CBO?
If they work for US (not the Dems) then the CBO should be
releasing its scoring to US...not to the Dem leadership. This
"hide the ball" while leaders tweak their numbers is as partisan
as it gets.
…yet made it to the threshold with their CBO numbers. They’re hoping no one notices everything they’ve dropped on the floor. This afternoon Philip Klein writes that the Dems Still Don’t Have the CBO Score They Want. They have yet to release their reconciliation bill and its CBO score. Klein quotes from the Congressional Quarterly: House leaders were to huddle late Tuesday afternoon, following a…
media, and whatever else strikes my fancy. Home Comment policy Still no bill Democrats have still not released their latest health care bill and its CBO score, because they didn’t like the CBO score they got: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care overhaul bill at an acceptable official cost estimate, but Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Tuesday…
…UPDATE III : Hey, Steny: “Deem” this! UPDATE IV: Philip Klein (he’s the Spectator’s ace on health-care coverage) reports that Democrats aren’t getting the score they need from the Congressional Budget Office. PREVIOUSLY: LIVE: People’s Surge vs. ObamaCare 2.0 Rep. Jim Jordan Speaks Out Against ObamaCare 2.0, Defends Tea Party Ryan: ‘Extraordinary and Unprecendented’…
…than thought posted at 5:59 pm on March 16, 2010 by Allahpundit Share on Facebook | printer-friendly If you’re wondering why it’s taking them so long to show this bill to the public, wonder no longer. They’re caught in a tangle of benchmarks here: Per The One’s instructions, they need the total package to cost not much more than $900 billion over the first 10 years — according…
PCC| 3.16.10 @ 6:59PM
Dear Mr. Klein,
You may be right concerning the critical importance of a good CBO
score as well as the necessity under reconciliation to reduce the
deficit by $1 billion (although both of these figures are
basically made out of whole cloth and are subject to accounting
gimmickry).
However, to think that the Blue Dogs will take a principled stand
or that President Obama will be constrained by a campaign pledge
is ridiculous.
…through the original bill itself and the reconciliation fixes being cooked up behind closed doors, out of the sight of the American electorate. Philip Klein at the American Spectator cites a report from Congressional Quarterly that says that Democrats are less than enthusiastic about the CBO reports they’ve seen so far: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care…
…and sent it back to the CBO. It means that the bill that the Democrats wanted was too expensive, and so they had to put in some more Medicare cuts or something. UPDATE: Philip Klein has written the same argument over at the Spectator, and got the quotes to prove that this theory was correct. I had only seen a vague Twitter rumor when I wrote this post. Speaking of which, we still don’t have a bill! …
…Green, D-Texas, who plans to vote for the bill. In reality it isn’t the Congressional Budget Office that is coming up short, but the cost of the bill they’re proposing as a fix. As the American Spectator reports: There are several things that Democrats are up against when it comes to the CBO score. The most important is that, based on reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to…
…of the nation’s top political commentators, legislators and intellectuals offer their insight into the biggest news story burning up the blogosphere today.” The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Dems Still Don’t Have the … Mar 16, 2010 … This afternoon Philip Klein writes that the Dems Still Don’t Have the CBO Score They Want. They have yet to release their reconciliation…
…was for it. She is hardly alone on that side of the aisle. Another popular theme is Democrats show their true colors, a particularly dark shade of Red if you as us. Also here and here and here. Torturing the numbers. Only the beginning. If the president succeeds this week in convincing the House to approve his health care bill it will be like a legislative gateway drug to further addict the public to Big…
…today< we cant vote on it saturday...stay tuned Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard is hearing the same thing. So why am I skeptical? Well, (a) by law, the reconciliation fix has to reduce the deficit above and beyond the reduction already provided for in Reid’s Senate bill — which cost less than a trillion. It’s technically possible for a more expensive bill to produce greater long-term…
psutopgun| 3.17.10 @ 7:12PM
I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't
like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the
numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with
their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of
the USSR of America.
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…possibly after the vote takes place. There’s a very good chance that the House will be voting on the bill without knowing its exact cost. The exact cost matters, as it turns out. The reconciliation instructions require that the reconciliation bill cut the deficit by at least $1 billion; otherwise it can’t be considered. Now, $1 billion isn’t much, but with the reconciliation bill adding $170…
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…for, however, are the endless delays in releasing the bill Democrats are expected to actually vote on while they deem the other into law. Problems with the CBO score might just explain that delay. Philip Klein cites a report on CQ.com which is unfortunately behind a pay firewall that is way out of my price league: House Democratic leaders are still struggling to produce a final health care overhaul bill at…
…increasing spending. It can also be used to sell otherwise unpopular bills. However, it does have some drawbacks. The CBO process can be gamed, but not infinitely. And as Philip Klein reports, the deficit reduction instructions seem to be causing House Democrats some trouble: Yet the delay in releasing the bill and CBO score (which was initially supposed to come out as early as last week) has…
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ella| 4.26.10 @ 12:54PM
Their districts should do us all a favor and vote them out of
office just to get Pelosi out of the speaker's chair - she's a
monster, and I ain't just talking appearances. internet
fax
Lisa| 12.20.10 @ 9:14AM
I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't
like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the
numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with
their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of the
USSR of America. Mode Girl
Jessica| 5.13.11 @ 1:05PM
I was recently on Fähren reisen and met some democrats. They
told me that this issue has been solved now and that the CBO has
been found. On the fähren reisen they told a
lot about their party which was very interesting for us
europeans.
Pingback| 3.16.10 @ 4:22PM
C-B-Oh No! Budget Office Holds Up Health Reform? - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
jeanneb| 3.16.10 @ 4:39PM
At some point, can we stop calling it the "non partisan" CBO?
If they work for US (not the Dems) then the CBO should be releasing its scoring to US...not to the Dem leadership. This "hide the ball" while leaders tweak their numbers is as partisan as it gets.
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CBO Score Numbers Juggling Continues | Be John Galt links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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PCC| 3.16.10 @ 6:59PM
Dear Mr. Klein,
You may be right concerning the critical importance of a good CBO score as well as the necessity under reconciliation to reduce the deficit by $1 billion (although both of these figures are basically made out of whole cloth and are subject to accounting gimmickry).
However, to think that the Blue Dogs will take a principled stand or that President Obama will be constrained by a campaign pledge is ridiculous.
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Dems don’t have acceptable CBO score yet « Wellsy's World links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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psutopgun| 3.17.10 @ 7:12PM
I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of the USSR of America.
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ella| 4.26.10 @ 12:54PM
Their districts should do us all a favor and vote them out of office just to get Pelosi out of the speaker's chair - she's a monster, and I ain't just talking appearances. internet fax
Lisa| 12.20.10 @ 9:14AM
I believe the demo leaders got the numbers yesterday but didn't like what they saw so they're changing the wording to get the numbers they want to see. Much like they'll kill us all off with their health care until the numbers look good to the leaders of the USSR of America. Mode Girl
Jessica| 5.13.11 @ 1:05PM
I was recently on Fähren reisen and met some democrats. They told me that this issue has been solved now and that the CBO has been found. On the fähren reisen they told a lot about their party which was very interesting for us europeans.