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Morocco epitomizes the problem of regimes which present themselves as pro-Western but which disparage Western values. There’s reason for cooperation on issues of common interest, but there should be no illusions about the character of the regimes.
For instance, Morocco recently tossed out Christians who organized an orphanage. Reports BBC:
Morocco says it will take a tough line on proselytism - seeking converts from another religion - two days after it expelled 20 Christian workers.
Communications Minister Khalid Naciri warned that the government would be “severe with all those who play with religious values”.
Religious freedom is guaranteed under Moroccan law but proselytism is banned.
Some Christian groups claim the authorities are deliberately trying to restrict their work in the country.
The expelled Christians had run a children’s home called Village of Hope near the town of Ain Leuh in the Middle Atlas mountains.
It’s odd, but I’m not aware of any “Christian” government which bans proseltyzing. Yet such prohibitions are common throughout the Muslim world. Only regimes afraid of their people hearing the truth would enact such a restriction. Minister Naciri should come clean about what is really motivating the government to close down an orphanage.
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AG| 3.13.10 @ 8:00AM
You're one angry man.
Morocco has always been a friend of the US and it's not such a minor event that's going to change it today. Now go back to your Obama-bashing and keep away from international affairs...
jpl| 3.13.10 @ 5:29PM
America's freedom of speech extends to everyone (except to people who want to wish someone Merry Christmas, of course). Muslims can proselitize to their hearts content anywhere they want to in America. So proselytism isn't OUR issue. This "one little incident" doesn't show the ugly side of the brutal arrests, interrogations and beatings of ordinary folks who decide that they don't want religion legislated to them by law. This happens daily in Morocco. Don't you wish we had the same policies in America? You'd get to believe what the government approved you belive in and if you decided to belive otherwise for whatever reason, they'd beat the stuffings out of you. Nice friends.
Cal Mark| 3.15.10 @ 11:22AM
Anger? What anger?
Bravo to someone for finally saying this!
Moslems can proseletyze all they want, including at the point of a sword, because "that's just what they do."
But let Christians try to "do their thing" quietly," and have someone defend them, then lefties kooks like AG scream "hate!"
k_aan19| 3.17.10 @ 7:35AM
speak only when you have somerthing knowledgeable to say im sure you have been told before that you no nothing so please zip it
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:32AM
hear hear
Jeremiah| 3.17.10 @ 11:04PM
You're applauding your own post? Moron.
Javier| 3.13.10 @ 9:06AM
I wonder what would happen if someone started handing Qurans in NY streets, ooh that's right ...one ticket straight to Guantanamo !
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:17AM
What would happen to those people who took the Qurans and then decided to flush them down the toilet?
Guantanamo would be paradise compared to the savage violence the followers of "The Religion of Peace" would inflict upon them.
Moron.
Nabil| 3.13.10 @ 11:13AM
Proselytism is the target,not of Christianity but of ALL religions. The proof: Morocco has already targeted Shiaa Muslims proselytism not long ago.So Christians don't think you're a target but your proselytism is. I live in Marrakech and few meters away from my office there's a Church with ringing bells every Sunday just in front of a Mosque, so don't let people believe Morocco is the enemy of Christians.
Thank you.
MarocCitizen| 3.15.10 @ 10:16AM
I would like to set the record straight. The people from the orphanage of Village of Hope that were expelled were not proselytizing to the children but were providing a home for abandoned and orphan children. While your response if a worthy one and true about hearing the church bells ringing, that has absolutely nothing to do with the law at hand. Minister Naciri quotes that there is no room for proselytizing in Morocco. What I am concerned about is that alcolhol is also forbidden when it comes to Islam. Here is the quote from Minister Naciri regarding the sale and consumption of alcolhol, “It’s complicated. Officially, the consumption of alcohol is forbidden for Muslims,” said Khalid Naciri, Morocco’s communication minister. “But the authorities aren’t going to go into every store to see whether Moroccans are buying it or not. This is not our concern.” Why is he concerned about people taking in abandoned children and not about the sale of alcolhol to Muslims. Should that not be more important since there are thousands upon thousands of Muslims breaking the law. Go into any grocery store or liquor store about 6 PM in Morocco and you will see what I mean. Even if VOH was proselytizing, would it not have been only to 33 Moroccans. Just want you to think: what battle should be fought here?? But I will say again, the staff at VOH were not converting anyone to Christianity.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:41AM
But I will say again, the staff at VOH were not converting anyone to Christianity.
and we should believe you WHY???? what prove do u have
when on yr website a page written by chris broadbent saying the children will be killed
the page has disappeared now wonder why
defamatory remarks regarding the administration
come on guys you have shot yr self in the foot and by doing this u have made the children yr scapegoat
Shame on u all
MarocCitizen| 3.26.10 @ 3:13PM
Reply to Kaan...
and no you cannot state that on "my" website. i have nothing to do with the website. born in morocco and live there now. very educated and think for myself. i don't care what was written on the website or who said what. they deserve a trial. period.
I think the thing to point out is that evidence in a "trial" would be the thing to prove my point. How can Village of Hope defend themselves when they were not given a chance to do so in a court of law. Even if they were prosyletizing, which I can assure you they were not, Moroccan Law states that people would still be given a trial and that deportation would only be granted should what they are doing be considered a threat to national security..i.e. terrorism. I have read the law. And by the way, I am Moroccan in case you could not tell. And no, I have not made the children my scapegoat at all - I am only stating the facts. If the Kingdom wants people to take us seriously, we need to focus more on human rights. How can we implement the Moroccan Autonomy Plan if we will not treat people fairly and allow them to present their side of the story. Plain and simple. Period.
Nabil| 3.13.10 @ 11:18AM
Response to the autor : you say " I'm not aware of any "Christian" government which bans proseltyzing " and what is happening right now in Europe is more than forbidding proselytism of Islam, as it is forbiding the practice of Islam which is more serious. This european government are "Christian " influenced as there are even Christian parties like Christian Democrat party of Holland.
Cal Mark| 3.15.10 @ 11:24AM
Islam is the enemy of Western values, and therefore western society. Period.
If you don't like it, leave. Go live in some Muslim country. You'll no doubt be more comfortable there.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:45AM
do u feel powerful writing this rubbish i bet u do hahahah
please do you self a favour and stick to issues u are familiar with ie been unintelligent beligerant jerk
i think u could write a book on this topic
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Lebanese Christian| 3.13.10 @ 2:39PM
Is it the same asshole under three different aliases?
OK Rasheed, listen carefully and repeat after me: Islam sucks, muslims are christian murdering, gay bashing, western hating, blood sucking nuts and they are unwelcome in the US. Any arab becomes an instant jerk, a total idiot and a potential murderer, once he converts to Uslam.
Case Closed.
Now, you morons just jerk off.
mido| 3.14.10 @ 4:40AM
Lebanese christian? How more dirty can it be? Pure human crap... Just a bunch of perverts, pedophiles, children murderers, genocide perpetrators, horrendous fifth column, face shifters, sodomites, idolators, pagans, ... JAJAJA so easy and funny!
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:21AM
Pot call kettle, hypocrite.
MarocCitizen| 3.15.10 @ 10:25AM
Let's not lose focus of what is going on. We are all God's children and should love one another regardless of religion or creed. There are many wonderful Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddists, and countless other people from various religions that are wonderful people. We should never target people because of who or what they believe in but we should look at our actions. We need to learn to all get along. This world is large enough and old enough that we should be able to come to some consensus in all parts of the world that no matter what, we will respect the values of others and not impose our values on them. If someone chooses to convert to another religion, that should be their perogative. Belief in God or in no god is a fundamental human right, which should be respected by all countries and creeds. If Morocco wants to advance and become a part of the EU, the government of Morocco must respect and allow more human rights.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:31AM
om goodness very christian remarks i must say such a potty mouth
grow up
kkan| 3.17.10 @ 7:48AM
what a disgusting little human u r
potty mouth
and saying that u are a Christian hahaha and u wonder y people dont want this sort of cartry on in their country
Lebanese Christian| 3.13.10 @ 2:40PM
... or is it Eslam? Whatever...
Nabil| 3.13.10 @ 5:57PM
Come change your mind in Morocco.
Get outside a little . Travel the world. Don't be close-minded to what's happening in your street, your country. Do not generalize. There are extremist everywhere. So if I think like you, according to the News , Christians are pedophiles.It's so easy to think like this.
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:21AM
We all know Muslim men like little boys--what you do to them is even worse than what you do to your sheep and goats. Pervert.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:53AM
please talk when u have something intelligent or knowable to say comments like these are pathetic and show your ignorance what a stupid person u are
Jeremiah| 3.17.10 @ 11:05PM
If you spoke decent English we would be able to understand you. Go away, troll.
kaan| 3.19.10 @ 7:29AM
i know that is what it looks like to you but if u read can u then u will see what im saying hear hear to omg and people want proselytize Christianity o goodie then we will end up like you a ignorant stupid and very sad human being
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Lebanese Christian| 3.13.10 @ 7:32PM
You don't get it, goat molester, the News as you say only talk about pedophiles when they're Christian, whereas all terrorists are muslim although (and I don't really believe it) all muslims are probably not terrorists. Now read the article, you want ME to travel to Morocco? Are you out of your mind? They would never let me in because I have a visa from Israel on my passport. Talk about open minds, you guys are the latest locust invasion.
mido| 3.14.10 @ 4:57AM
What a complete ignorant you are... JAJAJA!
Tzipi Livni were in morocco 2 months ago for an international conferance but if she decide to go to London, she'll end up in jail.
A large part of Israel is from Morocco and returns to morocco for pilgrimage including very very high politiciens.
But I must recognise that I'm quite relieved not to count a peace of shit like you in the 10 million/year tourists in Morocco.
mido| 3.14.10 @ 5:01AM
Piece and also Peace lol
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:23AM
Trust me--I've no interest in visiting your crap-hole country, piece of shit.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:26PM
hi i never read any where that anyone invited to morocco u are the last kind of person we want here
o please i think u r a tad confused between libya and morocco please if u are going to comment get it right instead of writing so much bs u r very funny really it amazing me how u can even turn a computer on without some form of assistance u r a complete dummy and for what ever reason u do not have the ability to read or comprehend the simplest of news reports grow up and get yr facts right
Jeremiah| 3.17.10 @ 11:06PM
Freak.
kaan| 3.19.10 @ 7:30AM
hahaha u r so shallow and so easy to rark up
dougx| 3.13.10 @ 9:02PM
I hate to see all my fellow world citizens arguing over imaginary supreme beings. Just think, you are all arguing over something that doesn't even exist. Now, let's set all of that stuff aside and be friends.
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:25AM
Yeah, but watch out for the Muslims holding knives behind their backs. Trust them about as far as you can throw them.
kaan| 3.17.10 @ 7:30PM
smitty it is smitty is it please grow up and hush yr mouth and if u cant then smitty duck
Jeremiah| 3.17.10 @ 11:07PM
Tell that to the 3000 slaughtered Americans who died on 9/11. Sneaky fools.
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Lebanese Christian| 3.14.10 @ 5:56AM
mido, like in midosote? I get it, quite an easy riddle. Like all turd sucking muslims you have this strange obseesion with anal sex, is it because you don't get laid before you buy a wife and the only alternative is fucking little boys? What a repugnant cult. We'll turn Europe into 1,000 Sabra's & Chatila's... Piece or Peace of Shiite lol goatfucker... JAJAJA
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Nabil| 3.14.10 @ 7:58AM
Mido , Don't waist your time talking to this Lebanese Christian , I 'm sure now he's a child not an adult. Anyway , anyone is welcome to Morocco ; Anyone is free to practice its religion in Morocco; There are Mosques, Temples, Synagogues, Buddhist temples .....It has been branded among the top 10 destinations for 2010 in "Lonely Planet" chart. Moreover , in Marrakech , one of my associate is a Jew, with dual citizenships from Morocco and Israel. Lebanese Christians ,Thanks for making her laugh by writting all these stupidities coming from someone I imagine must get out his house 1 time a week.
Peace
aliflam| 3.14.10 @ 11:27AM
you are not aware of any "christian government" forbiding prozelytising? What about Switzerland forbiding the construction of minarets because they "would push people to become Muslims", what about France forbiding head scarfe in schools and government buildings because it is an "instrument of prozelytism". What about France blocking the construction of mosques although it is the second religion in the country (less than 30 mosques for 5 million Muslims).
What about the Netherlands that forbids any visual sign of Muslims...
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:26AM
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Abdallah| 3.14.10 @ 3:45PM
Who ever decided to deport those people under those conditions was out of his mind.This is something Khaddafi will do ,definitely not a monarchy as noble as the Alaouites.Those people should have had their day in court.I am deeply ashamed the people in my country of birth will act this way. No deportation without a court order
MarocCitizen| 3.15.10 @ 10:37AM
I definitely agree with you. I have countless friends that I have told about Morocco and how they are a beacon of light to the Arab world. El Marghred - the land of the setting sun! The Holy Qu'ran states, “serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers. The companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious." (4:036 Holy Qu’ran) That is all these people were doing - taking care of orphans. Period. And they should have been given a trial to prove their case.
Lebanese Christian| 3.14.10 @ 5:53PM
The fucking muslim "young" as they say in France, because they don't dare calling them "algerian thugs" , burn about 40,000 cars a year in France alone, they killed dutch film directors, tried to kill danish cartoonists, preach terrorism in London, drop bombs in spanish stations, they made a shithole of Italy and now they complain about a few very shy attempts to make them a little less arrogant! It would be funny if it was not tragic! The goatfuckers are gonna make a new Lebanon out of Europe, but it won't be that easy with me and my buddies, fucking muslim trash poopers.
Everytime I see you pray, I wish The Great Sodomizer From Up Above would ram your dirty asses! Goatfuckers...
Smitty| 3.15.10 @ 12:30AM
Yeah, not to mention the 3000 Americans you jihadists slaughtered that warm September morning in 2001.
The Religion of Peace--my ass!
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