The Washington Post had a
bombshell story this morning reporting that President Obama's
top aides were poised to recommend that Khalid Sheik Mohammed be
tried in a military tribunal rather than a civilian court. That
would represent a huge reversal for the administration, and also
a tacit acknowledgment that the Bush-Cheney era anti-terror
measures that Obama agressively campaigned against during the
campaign were (at least in some cases) pragmatic answers to
complex problems.
To be sure, we don't yet know what Obama will ultimately decide,
but if he were to go by the recommendations, it would
confirm what some commentators were arguing during the campaign
-- that Obama is primarily focused on his domestic issues and
thus much more willing to fold on national security and foreign
policy matters.
When health care was on life support in Congress in the wake of
Scott Brown's victory, Obama decided not to back down. Instead,
he dug in his heels on getting a comprehensive bill, has shown a
willingness to use an aggressive reconciliation strategy to ram
through legislation that is overwhelmingly oppsed by the American
public, and is in the process of twisting arms in Congress to get
what he wants. Yet in the face of mounting opposition in Congress
to trying KSM in a civilian court, Obama isn't taking the same
approach. To Obama, the liberal dream of national health care is
worth the political risks, but he seems much more willing to cave
when it comes to national security matters that aren't as dear to
his heart.
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Maybe we could hold the tribunals in Gitmo.
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Rocketman
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Oldefarte| 3.5.10 @ 12:45PM
The INTENT of Obama's/Holder's initial proclamations concerning
closing Guantonamo and trying KSM,etc in NYC was probabily just
an attempted SHOT ACROSS THE BOW to politically embarrass the
Bush/Cheney administration for aggressively carrying out the war
against terrorists, and an appeasement of their Muslim-European
friends/associates regarding same!!!!!
Jack Kinch(1uncle)| 3.5.10 @ 3:21PM
Again, No Lie Nobama is not qualified to be president and would
not be a good or passable one even if he were legal and not a
socialist. Why can't that be realized and accepted? He's a loser.
Missy| 3.5.10 @ 4:53PM
Obama is using the KSM trial as a bargaining chip to close Gitmo.
RMS| 3.6.10 @ 1:30AM
I am sorry, but this is real simple.
As per Judge Napolitano's recent column in the LA Times, no
declaration of war, no military courts. It really is that
simple.
If there's a problem trying KSM in NY, wasn't it OJ or R King or
both that were tried in another venue because of the publicity,
etc? It is not an insurmountable problem to obey the
law/constitution.
Oldefarte| 3.6.10 @ 11:36AM
You must be 'real SIMPLE' Civilian courts deal with the
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, its laws and CITIZENS OF THE
UNITED STATES. Since when are Muslim terrorists CITIZENS OF THE
US, dummie? These terrorists are ENEMY COMBATANTS involved in
military-like actions against the US, and therefore should be
rightfully tried in MILITARY TRIBUNALS, not civilian courts [that
pertain to US citizens]. In some peoples' minds, these terrorists
should not even be tried in ANY court, but should instead be
shot, burned, and hung from a bridge [similar to the terrorists'
treatment of not only our military soldiers that they capture but
also their own fellow Muslim citizens]. Additionally, King, OJ or
any other LEGAL CITIZEN OF THE US that is tried in another
location other than the one representing the crime's occurrance
is used as an excuse to possibly allow for a MORE FAIR TRIAL [and
is legally called 'CHANGE OF VENUE'];and if applicable [which it
is not] would only apply if say these terrorists could not obtain
a fair trial from a CUBAN court system. It has to do with
possible prejudice, NOT the difference between a civilian and a
military court system. Gee wiz, you must be a real EINSTEIN!!!!
John Bibb| 3.5.10 @ 12:37PM
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Maybe we could hold the tribunals in Gitmo.
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Rocketman
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Oldefarte| 3.5.10 @ 12:45PM
The INTENT of Obama's/Holder's initial proclamations concerning closing Guantonamo and trying KSM,etc in NYC was probabily just an attempted SHOT ACROSS THE BOW to politically embarrass the Bush/Cheney administration for aggressively carrying out the war against terrorists, and an appeasement of their Muslim-European friends/associates regarding same!!!!!
Jack Kinch(1uncle)| 3.5.10 @ 3:21PM
Again, No Lie Nobama is not qualified to be president and would not be a good or passable one even if he were legal and not a socialist. Why can't that be realized and accepted? He's a loser.
Missy| 3.5.10 @ 4:53PM
Obama is using the KSM trial as a bargaining chip to close Gitmo.
RMS| 3.6.10 @ 1:30AM
I am sorry, but this is real simple.
As per Judge Napolitano's recent column in the LA Times, no declaration of war, no military courts. It really is that simple.
If there's a problem trying KSM in NY, wasn't it OJ or R King or both that were tried in another venue because of the publicity, etc? It is not an insurmountable problem to obey the law/constitution.
Oldefarte| 3.6.10 @ 11:36AM
You must be 'real SIMPLE' Civilian courts deal with the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, its laws and CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. Since when are Muslim terrorists CITIZENS OF THE US, dummie? These terrorists are ENEMY COMBATANTS involved in military-like actions against the US, and therefore should be rightfully tried in MILITARY TRIBUNALS, not civilian courts [that pertain to US citizens]. In some peoples' minds, these terrorists should not even be tried in ANY court, but should instead be shot, burned, and hung from a bridge [similar to the terrorists' treatment of not only our military soldiers that they capture but also their own fellow Muslim citizens]. Additionally, King, OJ or any other LEGAL CITIZEN OF THE US that is tried in another location other than the one representing the crime's occurrance is used as an excuse to possibly allow for a MORE FAIR TRIAL [and is legally called 'CHANGE OF VENUE'];and if applicable [which it is not] would only apply if say these terrorists could not obtain a fair trial from a CUBAN court system. It has to do with possible prejudice, NOT the difference between a civilian and a military court system. Gee wiz, you must be a real EINSTEIN!!!!
Margie| 3.6.10 @ 1:44PM
Gotta love ya, Oldefarte!