BreitbartTV has posted a great compilation
video of the arguments that top Democrats, including
President Obama, made against the prospect of Republicans using
the "nuclear option" to break Democratic filibusters in 2005.
Their words stand in stark contrast to Democrats current
statements in favor of ramming health care legislation through
with just 51 votes in the Senate.
No doubt, Democrats would argue that using reconciliation for
health care would not be as drastic a step as Republicans were
contemplating in 2005. But if you listen to the arguments that
Democrats were making back then, they were much more fundamental.
They were arguing that majority rule in the Senate would
undermine the checks and balances created by the founders, and
defeat the whole purpose of having two chambers of Congress.
The whole video is worth watching, but I've transcribed some of
the highlights.
Obama: "What I worry would be that you essentially still have two
chambers, the House and the Senate, but that you simply have
majoritarian absolute power on either side. And that’s just not
what the founders intended.”
Harry Reid: "The right to extend debate is never more important
then when one party controls Congress and the White House. In
these cases the filibuster serves as a check on power and
preserves our limited government."
Chris Dodd talked about bipartisanship: “We need to sit down and
work with each other. The rules of this institution have required
that. That’s why we exist. Why have a bicameral legislative body?
Why have two chambers? What were the framers thinking about 218
years ago? They understood, Mr. President, that there is a
tyranny of the majority.”
Dianne Feinstein: "If the Republican leadership insists on
forcing the nuclear option, the Senate becomes ipso facto the
House of Representatives, where the majority rules supreme, and
the party in power can dominate, and control the agenda with
absolute power."
Hillary Clinton: "You’ve got majority rule, and then you’ve got
this Senate over here where people can slow things down, where
they can debate, where they have something called the filibuster.
You know, it seems like it’s a little less than efficient. Well,
that’s right. It is. And deliberately designed to be so."
And Joe Biden: "I say to my friends on the Republican side, you
may own the field now, but you won’t own it forever. And I pray
God when the Democrats take back control we don't make the kind
of naked power grab you are doing."
…to cut off a potential filibuster and proceed to a final vote. The White House has been in recent days setting the table for use of reconciliation rules for health care reform. UPDATE #2: American Spectator’s blog reprints the 2005 comments by the various Democratic Senators in full. Share and Enjoy: Tags: Absolute Power, Barack Obama, Bush Administration, Collegues, Democratic Senate, Filibuster,…
ncatty| 2.24.10 @ 3:46PM
So what if we were lying then? Or are we lying now? Anyway,
passing healthcare is soooo important that ordinary rules of
honesty, consistency and shamefulness don't apply. You don't need
to understand, you only need to obey.
jaysanonconformist| 2.25.10 @ 2:53PM
get ready for revolution. americans are fed up.
note to politicians - we refuse
Oldefarte| 2.24.10 @ 4:43PM
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I .......DO!!!!!
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 2.24.10 @ 7:46PM
Aren't these some of the same Democrats, that today, want to
change the rules of the Senate, and get rid of the Filibuster?
The Democrats, they're very funny, in a sad, pathetic way, aren't
they? They really need to edit this video, showing these same
Democrats defending the Filibuster in 2005, and then crying about
it in 2010. That would be Great Comedy!!
The Democrats, they're very funny, in a sad, pathetic way, aren't
they? They really need to edit this video, showing these same
Democrats defending the Filibuster in 2005, and then crying about
it in 2010. That would be Great Comedy!!
Roy| 2.25.10 @ 2:07AM
The truth is you could find people on the other side, as well. I
remember Mark Levin - a guy I agree with about virtually
everything else - claiming that filibusters of judicial nominees
were "unconstitutional".
I make no apologies for seeing it purely through a partisan lens
and not putting some alleged principle above, eg, confirming
decent judges.
…had a different opinion. Check out the Breitbart video of Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and others supporting checks and balances. Ain’t hypocrisy wonderful!? ( H/t to Philip Klein.) Post a Comment Name (required) E-mail (will not be published) (required) Website Doug Bandow is Vice President of Policy for Citizen Outreach, a Washington-based grassroots political organization.…
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Big Java| 2.24.10 @ 2:22PM
I like Biden's "naked power grab" statement. It certainly resonates, dosen't it?
Tim| 2.24.10 @ 2:23PM
Naked power grab? Oh, Joe you are the perfect punchline.
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Obama '05-Reconciliation as"Not What the Founders Intended." | CentristNet links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
ncatty| 2.24.10 @ 3:46PM
So what if we were lying then? Or are we lying now? Anyway, passing healthcare is soooo important that ordinary rules of honesty, consistency and shamefulness don't apply. You don't need to understand, you only need to obey.
jaysanonconformist| 2.25.10 @ 2:53PM
get ready for revolution. americans are fed up.
note to politicians - we refuse
Oldefarte| 2.24.10 @ 4:43PM
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I .......DO!!!!!
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 2.24.10 @ 7:46PM
Aren't these some of the same Democrats, that today, want to change the rules of the Senate, and get rid of the Filibuster?
The Democrats, they're very funny, in a sad, pathetic way, aren't they? They really need to edit this video, showing these same Democrats defending the Filibuster in 2005, and then crying about it in 2010. That would be Great Comedy!!
onitsuka tiger mexico 66| 2.25.10 @ 12:47AM
The Democrats, they're very funny, in a sad, pathetic way, aren't they? They really need to edit this video, showing these same Democrats defending the Filibuster in 2005, and then crying about it in 2010. That would be Great Comedy!!
Roy| 2.25.10 @ 2:07AM
The truth is you could find people on the other side, as well. I remember Mark Levin - a guy I agree with about virtually everything else - claiming that filibusters of judicial nominees were "unconstitutional".
I make no apologies for seeing it purely through a partisan lens and not putting some alleged principle above, eg, confirming decent judges.
Gosoled| 2.25.10 @ 9:43AM
That would be Great Comedy!!
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Doug Bandow » Blog Archive » Democrats Support Minority Blocking Power in Senate–Then links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
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