As the Capitol reacts to the death of Jack Murtha and remembers
his legacy, it's worth pointing out that the news will make it
even harder for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to secure the 218
votes needed to pass health care legislation.
Back in November, the House passed its health care bill by a
narrow 220 to 215 margin, with 39 Democrats voting against it.
Since then, the one Republican who voted for it -- Joseph Cao --
has indicated that he would not support the bill a second time
around given the weaker language on abortion in the Senate
version. In addition, Florida Rep. Robert Wexler
already retired prematurely. Factor in Murtha's death today,
and Pelosi is down to 217 votes. This doesn't even take into
account the pro-life Democrats led by Bart Stupak who are
prepared to vote "no." While there's been talk that Pelosi had
some votes in reserve the first time around, the point is that
those members felt they needed to vote against the bill -- and
the political environment has deteriorated substantially for
Democrats since then.
With Murtha's death, the Cook
Political Report has now moved his Pennsylvania district to
the "toss up" category. If Republicans can field a good candidate
and gain the seat, it would further reinforce the fears among
Democrats in swing districts and make them less likely to jump on
board with Pelosi. Chris Cillizza suggests the most likely date for the
special election would be May 18. The special election to replace
Wexler is scheduled for April 13, and is expected to go Democrat.
UPDATE: Another complicating factor is Rep. Neil Abercrombie. The
Hawaii Democrat announced early last month that he would resign
Feb. 28 run for governor. However, in his
statement announcing his resignation, he said that he had
ensured Pelosi that he’d be around to continue supporting the
health care bill. Back when he made that statement, Scott Brown
hadn’t won yet, and thus the end of this month seemed like plenty
of time to finalize the health care bill. Now that the timeline
has been pushed back, perhaps he’d postpone the effective date of
his resignation if Pelosi still needed his vote.
UPDATE II: An earlier version of this post suggested that
Democrats would be unable to pass the bill with 217 votes, but as
a reader points out there's still the theoretical chance of
passing it 217-216. So I changed the wording.
Goodbye, John Murtha. | Little Miss Attila About Joy Whittemore McCann Archives Categories Home Goodbye, John Murtha. February 8, 2010 Philip Klein is ready to bury the Democrats’ version of healthcare “reform” along with Rep. Murtha. But I don’t think there’s any chance Pelosi could have pulled it off at this point, irrespective: the political climate has changed too…
Flee| 2.8.10 @ 4:19PM
Will there be the same kind of tearful and joyous sendoff for
Murtha that there was for Uncle Teddy? Can someone do a study to
see who brought home more bacon for their state? My bet would be
on Murtha.
Nick| 2.8.10 @ 4:34PM
First, the Swimmer. Now Murtha.
Maybe God is a Republican.
San Fran Nan better not get any more facelifts in the near
future.
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Moishe| 2.8.10 @ 5:12PM
From your mouths to G-d's ear!
MikeN| 2.8.10 @ 5:49PM
Your numbers don't add up. Switch Cao, and take away Wexler and
Murtha, and you still have a 217-216 win.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.8.10 @ 8:08PM
Folks,
Mr. Murtha has been judged...by our Creator.
(uh, no bullfeathers accepted.) heh
Mr. Ted Kennedy has been judged by our Creator.
(No bullfeathers accepted).
Each of us will be judged by our Creator.
Each of us has lived out our lives in the most wonderful society
the world has ever known, even with its warts.
Lock and load to keep it.
Ret. Marine| 2.9.10 @ 6:44AM
I'm with you on this one Ken, keep'm stacked and at the ready,
it's not over till the wrinkle faced nanny is held down for
another botox treatment. I fear her face is going to break one
day, in front of the whole world what an embarrasment she's
turned out to be..
Room TEST About Advertise Without Murtha, Dems now one vote short of passing ObamaCare in House posted at 8:29 pm on February 8, 2010 by Allahpundit Share on Facebook | printer-friendly A nice catch by Philip Klein that completely eluded me earlier. With 218 votes needed to pass Reid’s bill, the number of Democrats who voted for the House’s ObamaCare bill last year now stands at … 217. Back in…
bob| 2.8.10 @ 8:31PM
I really doubt that God looks kindly on people who celebrate the
death of their fellow man.
Nick| 2.8.10 @ 11:48PM
bob,
Try reading His book sometime.
Lots of killing of the wicked in there.
Gordon| 2.9.10 @ 10:48AM
That said, and coming from a staunch conservative, He is not in
favor of men, all of whom are wicked, acting as judge. Nor do we
do the conservative movement any favors when we stoop to the
level of the viciousness displayed on lib sites upon the passing
of any conservative.
Nick| 2.9.10 @ 12:46PM
Gordon,
Maybe you should re-read His book of Judges.
And if you are comparing my comments to the vile things posted on
lefty sites, you also need to re-read those.
wws| 2.8.10 @ 8:44PM
"I've never killed a man, but I've read many an obituary with a
great deal of satisfaction."
— Clarence Darrow
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…the Stupak amendment and making a vulnerable Democrat flip-flop on his previous vote. In a year when it’s a bad idea to be a Democratic incumbent anyway. The other problem is Abercrombie. As Philip Klein and Ed Morrissey both noted, he’s supposed to be out the door at the end of the month in order to run for Governor of Hawaii. He had also promised to stick around to get health care rationing…
…the Stupak amendment and making a vulnerable Democrat flip-flop on his previous vote. In a year when it’s a bad idea to be a Democratic incumbent anyway. The other problem is Abercrombie. As Philip Klein and Ed Morrissey both noted, he’s supposed to be out the door at the end of the month in order to run for Governor of Hawaii. He had also promised to stick around to get health care rationing…
…One begins to suspect that the Grim Reaper is against Obamacare. First, he got Ted Kennedy and now he’s made off with Jack Murtha. And Murtha’s absence matters for Obamacare. As Philip Klein puts it : As the Capitol reacts to the death of Jack Murtha and remembers his legacy, it’s worth pointing out that the news will make it even harder for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to secure the 218 votes…
…a reason to avoid tort reform, much as they tried to use Ted Kennedy’s death to push their hideous health reform bills through Congress. So Pelosi has lost not merely her best bully, but also another vote for health reform in the House. I have nothing good to say about Murtha. I’m old enough to remember the Abscam scandal, which Murtha spent two decades lying about, but what truly reduced…
…the Stupak amendment and making a vulnerable Democrat flip-flop on his previous vote. In a year when it’s a bad idea to be a Democratic incumbent anyway. The other problem is Abercrombie. As Philip Klein and Ed Morrissey both noted, he’s supposed to be out the door at the end of the month in order to run for Governor of Hawaii. He had also promised to stick around to get health care rationing…
shadow goverment No Bull. news service. No celebrity news here. Jack Murtha, RIP I won’t speak ill of the departed, and therefore have nothing at all to say about Jack Murtha. Philip Klein, however, notes a potentially important point: if the Republican wins the special election to succeed Murtha in May, the Democrats’ government medicine bill could have trouble passing the House.…
heWorldPolitics TheWorldPolitics Home Privacy Policy Jack Murtha, RIP February 9th, 2010 No Comments I won’t speak ill of the departed, and therefore have nothing at all to say about Jack Murtha. Philip Klein, however, notes a potentially important point: if the Republican wins the special election to succeed Murtha in May, the Democrats’ government medicine bill could have trouble passing the House.…
Many of us thought divine intervention would help save the
country ... He does work in mysterious ways.
May God rest his soul.
Ret. Marine| 2.9.10 @ 6:50AM
I guess our maker really does have a sense of humor, he took Ted
K. and now Jack M. and I keep wondering who's next. Good things
do come in three's.
Mr. Murtha was once a Marine, I lost respect and any concerns for
him the minute he acussed his fellow devil dog's with murder for
political gains. I hope he does rest in peace but, my gut is
telling me a different story.
…OME Obama Store Privacy Policy Feb 9 2010 Jack Murtha, RIP Posted by Jacquita in All Post 0 Comments I won’t speak ill of the departed, and therefore have nothing at all to say about Jack Murtha. Philip Klein, however, notes a potentially important point: if the Republican wins the special election to succeed Murtha in May, the Democrats’ government medicine bill could have trouble passing the House.…
…election that there’s no appetite among Democrats for forging ahead with the current bills. (Not to dance on his grave, but the death yesterday of Rep. John Murtha only makes the House Democrats’ numbers game harder.) The only reasons for trying to get Republicans involved in fixing the current bills are: a) the false premise that, with a tweak here and a new wrinkle there — tweaks and…
…in reserve the first time around, the point is that those members felt they needed to vote against the bill — and the political environment has deteriorated substantially for Democrats since then. Read More Tags: Health care, Jack Murtha, nancy pelosi This entry was posted on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010 at 10:56 am and is filed under Uncategorized. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS…
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…congressional delegation only eclipsed by Mary Landrieu’s Louisiana Purchase antics). That left Pelosi with 218 votes, the barest of margins. Murtha’s death, as the American Spectator’s Philip Klein notes, drops her total down to 217. There were 215 votes against the House bill when it passed in November, so if Cao flips it would still win the day 217-216 if nothing else changed. But of…
…way to defy the voters and impose this monstrosity, and Murtha did cast an “aye” vote when the House approved its version of ObamaCare in November, 220-215 . The American Spectator’s Philip Klein does the math: The one Republican who voted for it–Joseph Cao–has indicated that he would not support the bill a second time around given the weaker language on abortion in the Senate…
…ortsTalkPA NewsFlashPA GrassrootsPA Pennsylvania Politics: News, Culture, And Corruption How Murtha’s Death Could Make It Harder to Pass a Health Care Bill… How Murtha’s Death Could Make It Harder to Pass a Health Care Bill… Comment Commandments: 1) No Personal Attacks. (Debating is encouraged, but be respectful). 2) No Sexual Discussion (unless it specifically pertains to a cited story).…
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Will there be the same kind of tearful and joyous sendoff for Murtha that there was for Uncle Teddy? Can someone do a study to see who brought home more bacon for their state? My bet would be on Murtha.
Nick| 2.8.10 @ 4:34PM
First, the Swimmer. Now Murtha.
Maybe God is a Republican.
San Fran Nan better not get any more facelifts in the near future.
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Moishe| 2.8.10 @ 5:12PM
From your mouths to G-d's ear!
MikeN| 2.8.10 @ 5:49PM
Your numbers don't add up. Switch Cao, and take away Wexler and Murtha, and you still have a 217-216 win.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.8.10 @ 8:08PM
Folks,
Mr. Murtha has been judged...by our Creator.
(uh, no bullfeathers accepted.) heh
Mr. Ted Kennedy has been judged by our Creator.
(No bullfeathers accepted).
Each of us will be judged by our Creator.
Each of us has lived out our lives in the most wonderful society the world has ever known, even with its warts.
Lock and load to keep it.
Ret. Marine| 2.9.10 @ 6:44AM
I'm with you on this one Ken, keep'm stacked and at the ready, it's not over till the wrinkle faced nanny is held down for another botox treatment. I fear her face is going to break one day, in front of the whole world what an embarrasment she's turned out to be..
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I really doubt that God looks kindly on people who celebrate the death of their fellow man.
Nick| 2.8.10 @ 11:48PM
bob,
Try reading His book sometime.
Lots of killing of the wicked in there.
Gordon| 2.9.10 @ 10:48AM
That said, and coming from a staunch conservative, He is not in favor of men, all of whom are wicked, acting as judge. Nor do we do the conservative movement any favors when we stoop to the level of the viciousness displayed on lib sites upon the passing of any conservative.
Nick| 2.9.10 @ 12:46PM
Gordon,
Maybe you should re-read His book of Judges.
And if you are comparing my comments to the vile things posted on lefty sites, you also need to re-read those.
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"I've never killed a man, but I've read many an obituary with a great deal of satisfaction."
— Clarence Darrow
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I guess our maker really does have a sense of humor, he took Ted K. and now Jack M. and I keep wondering who's next. Good things do come in three's.
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