...and I could tear him limb from limb (figuratively speaking) in a Q & A give-and-take. I am watching him act like a haughty, angry, self-righteous, self-reverential (insert appropriate noun) in his meeting with House Republicans right now, and he is lecturing them like they are teenagers. What an arrogant so-and-so. He repeatedly accuses House Republicans of lowering the tone of debate, and denies that his side has done ANY politicizing or any insults, etc. This is just outrageous. His tone was utterly inappropriate, his body language even worse. That was not a polite give-and-take (although Republicans were certainly polite); it was a stern, rhetoric-filled, in-your-face lecture. He acts as if nobody ever has the right to question him seriously -- not only his are they not to question his motives, but his assumpions, his purity, his conclusions, and his own sense of his own exaltedness. This is a man with the soul of an authoritarian. And that is dangerous.
NOTE: As indicated in the comments below, I have removed a mild, implied vulgarity from my original post.
rssg| 1.29.10 @ 1:55PM
Too late now...many common-sensed conservatives from 2007 on, had a strong sense that this man is a narcissist and for all his oratorical flourishes, remarkably unimpressive when one examines his resume.
Add to that, his entire life was one raised in and around anti-American radicals. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, eh?
Alan Brooks| 1.29.10 @ 8:51PM
"This President is an Arrogant, Thin-Skinned, Prevaricator..."
Flattery gets you nowhere.
Sean Mays| 1.31.10 @ 12:27PM
Perhaps the most telling aspect of the speech reactions — Fox News, alone among cable networks, cut away mid-broadcast and went to a news-less interview with Rep. Peter King.
One hundred and forty to one. Pretty even odds, wouldn't you say? Shame on Obama to have engaged in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents...
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 12:48PM
Obama's favorables are in the tank, republicans are kicking democrat butt in blue, blue states, a 23 year old crotch bomber terrorist nearly slaughtered 300 American citizens, unemployment is in double digits and rising--and you say Obama outsmarted republicans?
That marxist Kool-Aid you're drinking is blinding you to reality and shrinking what little gray matter you ever possessed.
Aunti-Christ| 1.31.10 @ 3:57PM
Uh, wrong. Obama's favorables have remained high even as his job approval has gone down, and after the SOTU, his numbers have gone up across the board. Check out Rasmussen today if you don't believe me.
Meanwhile, Republican popularity remains at an all-time low. No serious political analyst - even that dolt Michael Steele - believes that the GOP will take back either the house or the senate this year.
As usual, Obama has gotten the best of the Republicans, the fact that it was 140 of them vs. just him makes them look even more pathetic.
Were you saying the same thing about the shoe bomber under Bush? Probably not, because the kool-aid you're drinking is much stronger than anything the left is serving up.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 6:42PM
Uh, liar. Even Gallup (a left-leaning poll) shows Obama's favorables at 47%. That's a 20+ point drop in only one year.
Obama's numbers are the lowest of any first year president in history.
Republicans beat democrats by 8 points in generic polls--first time in years.
I'm obviously right, considering the ass-kicking we gave you in the last three major elections--two governors and one senator (TEDDY'S seat, no less!!). Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Bozo.
Bust out the Liberal Kool Aid, stooge; you're gonna need it the rest of the year. Hahaha!
Baal| 2.3.10 @ 8:01PM
Come on Brain Dead, EVERYBODY knows you cant trust a Rasmussen Poll. You just cant handle a man with BRAINS and REAL FACTS at his disposal. Crawl back under your rock until 2012. Then you can waste your vote on Scary Sarah...
Rob Peck| 2.4.10 @ 6:05PM
I think the more Obama proves himself the more you rushettes squeal about teleprompters and nazi progressives and all that meaningless stuff. So one republican senator and two govs have been elected and you wet your pants with delight. What a lot of B.S. because Obama can outdebate and shine the light of truth on a roomful of repukes. Ha Ha. And I'd love to watch Quinn try to tear Obama up in a debate, LOVE IT! You talk big but there is nothing there about governance of our great country.
TomDem55| 2.3.10 @ 8:10PM
YIKES the crotch bomber, hmmm what about Richard Reed?
AND YOUR guys read him his rights
DId you actually see AND hear the questions? So you did not hear Mike Pence and his voice dripping with sarcasm???
Hmm get your ears cleaned, as for the unemployment, WE left the nation with high employment and a surplus, 8 years of got to war while borrowing money from the COMMUNIST Chinese THAT kicked the economy... but since you are a fact free zone well
thanks for playing
David| 1.30.10 @ 2:24AM
I completely respect and honor the president. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is my president. Is he your president, because you attack him like he's a foreign combatant? Do you respect the office or the title? The decision that your fellow Americans made?
Word of advice, Attack the message, attack the rhetoric, attack the policy. But don't attack the office. Show some respect at the very least. There is a reason mouthy children are told to show respect to adults. People deserve respect, even when we don't like them.
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 2:45AM
People deserve respect IF they have earned it. People who act in contemptible ways deserve contempt, and should not be shielded from their deserts by the office they temporarily hold, particularly when their holding of that office gives them power to ruin our lives or livelihoods. When the prez treats citizens contemptuously, those citizens have no obligation to "honor" him.
And by the way, who is attacking the office? We are defending the office of president when we point out that the holder of it is abusing the office, the country and the citizens.
Sut| 1.30.10 @ 5:07AM
You're right, David. How do I know this? I paid real close attention to how George W. Bush was treated by the Democrats and their off-shoots, the media, for eight years.
Here,..respect THIS! Barack Hussein Obama is an arrogant punk of the highest order.
bullwhacker| 1.30.10 @ 11:15AM
He is a punk! Ask the people of China, Vietnan, Cambodia, Russia, Venezuella, etc. about the importance of civility. Whats it get you if a megolomaniac is in charge?
Montgomery| 1.30.10 @ 8:41AM
"People", do not "deserve respect". That is a liberal construct, which they ignore, by the way.
If the President is going to treat taxpaying citizens of this country as the "enemy", he should expect to be verbally attacked. And so should any moron who treats the Presidency as if it were a hereditary title.
Serious Observer| 2.3.10 @ 7:45PM
I guess Montgomery is first referring to Obama, as an "enemy" of the taxpayer -- assuming the previous president was a friend of the taxpayer because he did not expect the American taxpayer to pay the bills he ran up during his tenure? And Montgomery must be saying the previous president deserved no respect, as "any moron who treats the presidency as a hereditary title." Only George Bush II can lay any claim to having successfully succeeded a relative.
Melinda| 1.30.10 @ 10:43AM
The Republicans invited him to lecture them. They unquestioningly accept the leftists'/statists' "Party of No" assignation and obligingly seek to correct it.
Instead of identifying the principles behind their No votes, they instead sought the president's advice on how they can keep him from refering to them as obstructionists.
He scolded them when he told them, "You have to vote Yes."
Mike | 2.3.10 @ 6:34PM
You repubs got your ass handed to you. Pretty easy to do when you speak the truth. You ain't never been right about anything.
Naomi| 1.29.10 @ 2:02PM
Having the soul of an authoritarian is not out of character for a Marxist.
RRRoss| 1.29.10 @ 2:03PM
More of this "un-presidential" behavior can only be a good thing. He never, ever, stops talking down to people who he thinks or knows don't agree with him. The American people won't accept being spoken to like that day in and day out but he's been doing it now for well over a week, non-stop.
wapiti307| 1.29.10 @ 2:07PM
Perhaps President Obama should look back at his rather short voting record in the U.S. Senate. What wasn't politicized about what he said and did? He voted for the very same economically damaging policies he says are not his fault. They may not be his fault up to a point, but he had a share in "the mess".
Dixie Pixie| 1.29.10 @ 2:09PM
Well it is final.
Bipartisanship was taken out and machine gunned to death by Obama's intemperate rhetoric.
Long live bipartisanship as the ultimate surrender to liberal dogma and taunts.
wapiti307| 1.29.10 @ 2:14PM
Obama says he's "not a Bolshevik". He's right. He's a Marxist. Hello Frank Marshall Davis and Saul Alinsky.
Tim| 1.29.10 @ 2:16PM
Maybe he's trying to provoke an over reaction?
Siegfried X| 1.29.10 @ 2:20PM
Obama's fellow Democratic politicians are now saying the same thing about him too. They are a little more gentle, but the point gets across. After all, the Democratic majority in Congress invited him to give a speech, and Obama spent the time lecturing them like children.
That is one of the great weaknesses of the Democratic party, which loses them votes over and over, the smug self-righteousness.
wapiti307| 1.29.10 @ 2:21PM
I don't see how BHO thinks he can get anywhere by lecturing the Republicans like they are a bunch of kindergarteners.
KevinG| 1.29.10 @ 3:18PM
Yes, but he is much like Adlai Stevenson in that he believe if he just can explain it just right, i.e., get it down to :their level" people will being to understand and come around.
wapiti307| 1.29.10 @ 4:33PM
Obama is a skilled orator, but there is no substance behind what he has to say. He basically told the Republicans "it's not about me", "it's Bush's fault", and other regurgitations.
Pat44| 1.30.10 @ 8:49AM
I don't even think he's a skilled orator. That's a line that's been pushed on us from Day 1.
I find his speech pattern boring, stilted, and his attitude condescending. Oh, and phony, too.
HenHouseFox, MI| 1.30.10 @ 3:21PM
I too find his speeches as sing-song. He bobs his head
back and forth between screens as if he's playing tennis with his eyes. LOL You can tell he has no idea
what is written until he reads it to you. And I find no afeck in his voice to what he is saying.
Dollface| 1.30.10 @ 10:50AM
Actually, only the "MSM" thinks he's a skilled orator. Like them, he's just a stooge reading from a teleprompter. Anybody can sound eloquent if they can read the right words and stage directions.
Serious Observer| 2.3.10 @ 7:51PM
Obama can't get anywhere with anyone who won't even listen and have a meaningful conversation. Congress is so dysfunctional, I give him credit as a president trying to break through with both bullheaded caucuses in Congress. But to maintain that Obama lectures opponents like kindergartners, what was it that Cheney was doing? Cheney was the sternest lecturer in recent memory!
meatbrain| 1.29.10 @ 2:46PM
Shorter Quin Hillyer:
WAAAAAAH! He stood up to the Republicans! WAAAAAAH! Why'd he have to go and do that? WAAAAAAH! MOMMEEEEEE!!!
Grzmlyk| 1.29.10 @ 3:18PM
Hey meatbrain (very apt moniker, by the way. Let me guess: Rump roast?):
As one of the last people on this planet to remain fooled by Obamanada, be a dear and turn off the lights when you leave, ok?
Thanks ever so.
Margie| 1.29.10 @ 8:35PM
Probably more like chopped liv-ah.
Paul| 1.29.10 @ 2:54PM
SOB, eh? Ironic that you're talking about civility and tone while calling Obama's mother a bitch. Classy.
Tammy| 1.29.10 @ 2:57PM
Obama's a bastard--and that's a fact.
bullwhacker| 1.30.10 @ 11:18AM
Short and sweet!
Quin| 1.29.10 @ 3:02PM
Good point, Paul. In shorthand, in all caps, "SOB" often becomes just an all-purpose indication that the subject has a character trait of which the writer or speaker strongly disapproves. That is the sense in which I was using it, but I should not have done so because the expression itself represents words that amount to a vulgarity. I am sincere about this. I am going back in to edit the reference (so readers of these comments will no longer see what you are referring to, but they will see, from this comment, that I did indeed use that term). I thank you for holding me to my own stated standards, sir.
ds80| 1.29.10 @ 4:09PM
"SOB" often becomes just an all-purpose indication that the subject has a character trait of which the writer or speaker strongly disapproves.
I'll stick with "SOB".
meatbrain| 1.29.10 @ 7:11PM
Of course, Hillyer doesn't mind letting someone else smear Obama with a vulgarity, does he? Classy.
http://bit.ly/dy5wdq
ds80| 1.29.10 @ 10:19PM
"Let someone else" ?? That sentiment is a perfect example of the left's "speech control" mentality. Surely you intended your moniker to be "peabrain".
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 12:51PM
Meathead works for me!
wapiti307| 1.29.10 @ 2:58PM
The Republicans are throwing the ball back in Obama's court: http://freedomproject.org/Blog.....a09450bdc6
However, Obama and the Democrats have dismissed ideas from the Republicans as the same old tired rhetoric and worn-out ideas of the past. Who has been doing the politicizing?
Maggie| 1.29.10 @ 3:00PM
Spot on...the only word I'd change is prevaricator--make it liar. I'm tired of being pc!
Tim| 1.29.10 @ 3:03PM
I read the following at NRO's Corner: did you guys watch the same speech?
Re: Obama and the GOP [Daniel Foster]
The president just concluded — after running over time — his exchange with the House GOP. There was, of course, a lot in what he said that we can and should take issue with, but the mere fact that this meeting happened — and that (unlike the president's meetings with his own party) it was televised — is remarkable in its own right.
More remarkable still is that it would be hard to argue the exchange is anything but a plus-plus for Obama and the GOP. Both sides emerged from it looking as if, contra the public's greatest fears, they are serious about the deficit and health-care reform. The president avoided the temptation to speak in platitudes and sound bytes, and the Republicans went a long way toward showing that they are hardly a party of obstructionists with no solutions to offer Americans.
Obama's lengthy back-and-forth with Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wisc.) was particularly compelling, as it was clear that the president realized he was in the presence of a razor-sharp wonk and one of the most effective critics of his administration.
Maybe it's just that the novelty of the Q&A has yet to wear off, but the frank exchange was refreshing, and an encouraging development.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
Patriot| 1.29.10 @ 3:14PM
Obama didn't engage the republicans because he wanted to--he had to!! Keep his feet to the fire!
Gary| 1.29.10 @ 3:50PM
Tim makes an excellent point. Quin, seriously, were you watching the same speech with Q & A that I was? Doesn't seem like it.
Quin| 1.29.10 @ 4:55PM
I must admit that I tuned in just AFTER the exchange with Paul Ryan. Apparently those who saw that exchange came away with a much better impression of Obama's approachability and attitude than I did. If you watch the last, I dunno, maybe half hour of the exchanges, though, you'll probably come away with much the same impression of Obama that I had.
meatbrain| 1.29.10 @ 7:18PM
Well, of course you are going to whinge about the "impression" that Obama made on you, Hillyer.
That's because you cannot, will not, dare not discuss the facts.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 12:54PM
Something else when a whiny liberal calls you a whiner.
BUSHITLER! Take that, moron.
Jeff| 1.29.10 @ 3:06PM
so Paul ...
are you suggesting that someone who does not act civil or treat others with respect should be treated with respect ?
Is that what you would prefer ?
nice strawman though ... its US who are the hypocrites because we don't treat Obama with respect ...
it is ironic isn't it ... that Obama has ignored the polls and the recent elections and claimed that we don't like his health care bill because WE don't understand it ... he is an ignorant fool wrapped in the trappings of intelligence with his degrees who is clearly so far out of his depth that it's possible he doesn't know it ...
You obviously know it, so instead of trying to make excuses or defend him you attack the messenger ...
typical debating style of an Alinsky follower ...
Richard Baker| 1.29.10 @ 3:23PM
Remember all. These are his good points.
Xenos| 1.29.10 @ 3:30PM
With my apologies to Winston Churchill: Barack Obama is an ideologue wrapped in a liar inside a fraud.
Jack Carter| 1.29.10 @ 3:40PM
Who lied about "death panels?" Who lied about a public option outlawing private insurance? Who lied about people getting microchipped? Who spread the rhetoric of fear and violence?
Oh, yeah - the REPUBLICANS.
Deborah D| 1.29.10 @ 4:57PM
No lying about "death panels" -- just a descriptive way of defining a real problem in the health care bill.
Private insurance will not survive with a public option, so it won't have to be outlawed. Businesses have to make money to survive. Governments just have to tax and print money. There's no such thing as competition with a gov't program.
Never heard the microchip thing.
Fear and violence? Huh?
We are, however, afraid of Obama and his socialistic and dictator-like focus (and what seems like his dislike for the country and its people).
meatbrain| 1.29.10 @ 7:15PM
"No lying about "death panels" -- just a descriptive way of defining a real problem in the health care bill."
Put some facts where your mouth is, Deborah. Cite the exact provisions in the health care bill that would implement anything that could be called a "death panel" by the non-delusional.
I'll wait.
mickeymat| 1.30.10 @ 7:14AM
The rationing of care in the Two Part Obama Health Care Plan is implemented through a Council, equivalent to the National Health Care Board in the British Health Care System. The name given to this panel is The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research (“Federal Council”). (Section 9201 H.R. 1 Version of the Stimulus Bill.)
President Obama has already appointed the fifteen-member Federal Council. According to the Stimulus Bill, p. 152, all members of the Council must be “senior federal officers or employees.” Thus, medical treatment will be dispensed by a group of bureaucrats from their ivory towers, not by the hands-on practitioners in the presence of the patients. The council was funded with $1.1 BILLION from the stimulus bill.
Was it worth the wait? Denying or rationing care results in death-thus death panels. Duh.
bullwhacker| 1.30.10 @ 11:23AM
Lets us also recall the recent breast cancer screening trial run balloon that burst. Perfect example of rationing to come.
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 7:32AM
"The rationing of care in the Two Part Obama Health Care Plan is implemented through a Council, equivalent to the National Health Care Board in the British Health Care System. The name given to this panel is The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research (“Federal Council”). (Section 9201 H.R. 1 Version of the Stimulus Bill.)"
'mickeymat' is lying. The bill does not empower the Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research to dictate or ration care in any way, and in fact states that "[n]othing in this section shall be construed to permit the Council to mandate coverage, reimbursement, or other policies for any public or private payer."
Wingnuts lie. That's what they do. 'micketmat' should be proud that it is such an excellent example of the one talent that wingnuts possess.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 12:56PM
"Death Panel" is a metaphor, moron. Look it up.
Sarah Palin was right.
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 2:06PM
"Death panel" was and is a flat-out lie. 'mickeymat', like every other good little wingnut, repeats the lies it has been told to repeat.
If you disagree, then quote to me the exact passage in the health care bill that gives the Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research the power to dictate to any doctor the course of treatment for a patient.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 6:46PM
It's a metaphor and it's symbolism is spot on.
Comprehension must be above your paygrade.
ObamaCare is dead anyway, loser.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 6:54PM
....its symbolism.....
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 6:56PM
"It's a metaphor and it's symbolism is spot on."
False. It is a claim about a provision that is allegedly in the bill. Like all wingnuts, 'Patriot' is incapable of formulating an argument based on facts.
Still waiting: Quote to me the exact passage in the health care bill that gives the Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research the power to dictate to any doctor the course of treatment for a patient.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 11:29PM
The "Death Panel" is in ObamaCare, but it doesn't matter because you democrat idiots who have super-majorities in both houses of congress and the presidency can't pass it!!
It's just rationing--any idiot knows there will be rationing like that which exists in England and
Canada. You fools don't care about people, you only crave power and control like all communists. Screw you!
You liberals must feel like such losers! You should because you are.
See you in November, dumbass! Hahaha!!!
meatbrain| 2.1.10 @ 8:18AM
"The "Death Panel" is in ObamaCare..."
So the wingnuts keep insisting -- and yet they cannot answer a simple challenge: Quote the exact passage in the health care bill that gives the Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research the power to dictate to any doctor the course of treatment for a patient.
Patriot| 2.1.10 @ 3:09PM
I did answer you, bonehead--you just refused to listen. Yawn.
Doesn't matter anyway--ObamaCare is dead!!! Trust me, we'll make sure it's dead.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 2.1.10 @ 3:22PM
GO SARAH!!
meatbrain| 2.1.10 @ 5:07PM
"I did answer you..."
False. 'Patriot' may have replied, but provided no actual answer. It merely repeated the claim, and supplied absolutely no factual evidence to back up that claim.
I'll repeat the challenge again, and we will all watch as 'Patriot' demonstrates once again that it is incapable of basing its claims on fact:
Quote the exact passage in the health care bill that gives the Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research the power to dictate to any doctor the course of treatment for a patient.
Jay Dee| 1.29.10 @ 6:48PM
Check the Stimulous bill for the death panels but they were too polite to be called by their correct name.
As Obamao said to the SEIU in '07 while campaigning, it will take a few years but eventually it will be a single payor system.
Sorry I have all my dogs microchipped - did your mommy have you done?
I believe it was Pelosi who called the Tea Party members Nazis, right before she got teary eyed and remembered about violence perpetrated by a lib on another lib.
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 2:56AM
There's audiotape of various Democrats who had a hand in the 2000-page bills, including Obama, admitting or bragging that their goal is getting everybody in a government-controlled system, and that what they're trying to cram down now is a step that WILL get us there sooner or later. One person who helped craft the legislation said it isn't a Trojan horse for "single payer"--it's right out in the open.
So who's lying?
Kyle Smith| 1.29.10 @ 3:54PM
Did Clinton and the Bushes ever attend Democrat House retreats? Why does it seem to me that inviting Obama to attend the retreat is stupid? This really could confuse voters, to see Obama speaking to Republicans, like they are attending a lecture from a college professor, while they take notes and nod. I think both parties simply exist to resurrect one another, and pick each other up. The Republicans are the great Democrat enablers. I will say this until I'm blue in the face, or when the Republicans stop giving Democrats life lines. Both these parties seem to want to keep a stranglehold on our freedoms and make the government grow grow grow grow. It's a charade.
Deborah D| 1.29.10 @ 3:57PM
You know Kyle, you're exactly right. Didn't they get enough of being "taken to the woodshed" on Wednesday night by Daddy Obama? Geez, are they gluttons for punishment or what? Did they really think they would get a good hearing on their ideas?
betsy| 1.30.10 @ 6:55AM
yes, George Bush attended the Demo. retreat his first year and was treated shabbily
Out there| 1.29.10 @ 4:17PM
What a collection of complete fool you are. To bad so sad sucks to be you who can not stand the truth. You are the ones who have lied and cheated for far to long.
Xenos| 1.29.10 @ 4:55PM
Before you post on this thread, it might be a good idea to put down your meth pipe, slow down your brain a little bit, and write with proper grammar and spelling.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 12:58PM
LOL! Publik Skool Edycation on full display.
Mike| 1.29.10 @ 5:19PM
Judging from the fury of the name calling and the ad hominen attacks over the past two days, I guess conservatives think the President was persuasive on Wednesday evening. Otherwise, how to account for this behavior from those who think they are winning the debate?
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 3:05AM
Many commentators have made quite specific observations about the many lies and contradictions in the SOTU. They've also counted instances of the first-person singular as one (but not the only) objective measure of an unusual degree of narcissism and self-regard in the occupier of the White House. That isn't name-calling; it's a description/diagnosis.
And if using ad hominems means the other side is winning the argument, then George W. Bush must have won the political arguments in a huge way, obviously.
Mike| 1.30.10 @ 10:25AM
Bush did win political arguments in a big way. Tax cuts and the war in Iraq are the most prominent. And he was subjected to name calling and ad hominen attacks.
With respect to the first part of your post, I will reserve judgment until I read more about the "many lies and contradictions" and about the "commentators."
Out there| 1.29.10 @ 5:22PM
What is wrong with my spelling? To bad you guys clam to be so much intellectuals. As to the meth part this is tipycal of right wing er to prohibit substances that help the poor suffering.
PrivateEyes| 1.30.10 @ 11:12AM
Spelling errors:
Too (not to)
claim (not clam)
typical (not tipycal)
Jeremiah| 1.29.10 @ 5:31PM
Hey Mike, you mean that you dumb libturds, when you spent eight years insulting President Bush, did so because you thought he was right?
Reminds me of Da Messiah blaming the MA debacle on anger towards Bush legacy!
F.ucking liberals!
dbtexas| 1.29.10 @ 10:48PM
Ah, so many sweethearts here. Your use of the English language is admirable - for a dolt! And, I don't like it when the left is so crass too. Incidentally, Bush was rarely right.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:01PM
Saved your sorry, ungrateful butt from terrorism for 8 years. Bush was right about national security.
Bush's 5% unemployment was excellent, too: Unlike the 10+% unemployment caused by President Odoofus and his Marxist policies.
Mr. Patriot| 2.3.10 @ 7:37PM
"Saved your sorry, ungrateful butt from terrorism for 8 years" Are you serious? Ask around and you might hear about something that happened on Sept 11, 2001. And while you are at it, ask about anthrax too. Or maybe you could see if anyone ever heard of John Allen Muhammad or Lee Boyd Malvo. Not to worry though, you are in good company. Rudy" Giuliani is out there making the same claims! He's forgotten the very things that made him a wealthy man!
WRJonas | 1.29.10 @ 5:58PM
Watching Obama these days is is like watching a Greek tragedy with comic overtones. He flounders so pathetically and angrily it becomes funny. "I am not a bolshevik" he says , while everyone in the room thinks " this guy is a damned commie. "
He is absolutely certain that none of the failure is
the fault of his administration as everyone remembers the Democrats seized the Congress in 2006.
He trashes George Bush who graciously agreed to help raise funds for the Haitian relief. No class or acceptance of his culpability , just defiant denial.
I don't think he's winning many converts.
dbtexas| 1.29.10 @ 10:51PM
You guys are too funny. Have trouble with someone that speaks proper English with great syntax? "...is a damned commie!"? Do you know what communism is? Socialism? Try to get your elderly members to surrender their Medicare and Social Security. The clueless people are the ones taken in by Republican rhetoric and actually believe that right wingers give a flip about the common man.
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 3:12AM
How many common men & women has your hero Obie put out of work by attacking their employers, and the productive sector generally? I know I'll have to break this gently, but the fact is he doesn't care if you're suffering. He cares about pulling more power into his hands, that's all.
You've never noticed that the wealthiest Zip codes vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They can hire lawyers who shield their assets from the taxes they want the middle class to pay.
Mike| 1.30.10 @ 10:29AM
If you object to the left referring to President Bush as "chimpy" why do you call President Obama "Obie?"
Jolly| 1.31.10 @ 1:04PM
Count your lucky stars that we don't call "Obie" President "Chimpy."
OneForTheGipper| 1.30.10 @ 9:23AM
Give up Medicare and Social Security, you say? Easier said than done, my friend, and I'm sure MANY if not MOST Americans would PREFER to CHOOSE their health insurance THEMSELVES and plan their retirement THEMSELVES than climb aboard the twin Titanics of Medicare and Social Security - both headed for that big iceberg called bankruptcy in the not too distant future. In order to completely prevent - or at least greatly discourage - "the common man" from taking charge of his/her own health care and retirement, our warm-hearted friends in the government PENALIZE ANYONE who DOESN"T sign on to these programs. So much for compassion for the sick and elderly.....hah!
Mike| 1.30.10 @ 10:35AM
"I'm sure MANY if not MOST Americans would PREFER to CHOOSE their health insurance THEMSELVES and plan their retirement THEMSELVES than climb aboard the twin Titanics of Medicare and Social Security - both headed for that big iceberg called bankruptcy in the not too distant future."
I agree with you completely about the impending bankruptcy of social security and medicare. However, going bankrupt or abolishing both programs are not the only two options.
You are more confident about what most Americans want than I am. How about asking how many Americans want health care, social security and medicare fixed?
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:07PM
60+% of Americans REJECT ObamaCare: That's why we're confident we know what Americana want.
You clowns lost the debate--take your lumps and crawl back under your rocks please.
meatbrain| 1.29.10 @ 6:23PM
What's most amusing about Quin Hillyer's hissyfit is that at no point does Hillyer make the slightest attempt to deal with the substance of the President's remarks. Instead, he treats us to an extended rant that boils down to one simple sentiment: "Uppity n****r!"
How pathetically typical of the increasingly deranged right in this country...
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 3:25AM
Ah, the trusty old race card comes out on cue. I'm sure you were outraged whenever Clarence Thomas was badmouthed, weren't you?
No matter how appalling your hero Obie's behavior is, not matter how destructive his actions, we may not, must not criticize him because ... because we shouldn't expect a high standard from someone of his coloration.
So you are the racist meathead.
We, on the other hand, have granted Obama the dignity of regarding him as a full human being who is to be judged by the same measure as we would judge an individual of paler hue. We don't let racial condescension hold us back from calling him on his bad behavior.
bullwhacker| 1.30.10 @ 11:26AM
Bravo!
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 7:40AM
"No matter how appalling your hero Obie's behavior is, not matter how destructive his actions, we may not, must not criticize him because ... because we shouldn't expect a high standard from someone of his coloration."
Of course, I made no such statement. Like every dimwitted wingnut, 'Radegunda' is incapable of discussing what I actually said. Therefore, it props up and knocks over a straw man -- in this case, that I claimed "we may not, must not criticize [Obama]".
Of course we can criticize Obama. But if that criticism is to have any real value, it should be of the substance of what Obama says and does. Hillyer criticizes not one statement that Obama made during his Q&A with the Republicans. Instead, we are treated to Hillyer's fact-free pouting about Obama's "tone" and "body language". Hillyer is clearly telling us that our black President doesn't know his place.
bullwhacker| 1.31.10 @ 10:45AM
If its not about "tone" and "body language," then whats up with the teleprompter, even with 6th graders? He's a punk!
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:11PM
Liberals are the biggest bigots around. Witness the recently revealed racist remarks about Obama from Dingy Harry and horndog Willy Clinton.
Chris Matthews is a racist moron, too. "I forgot Obama was black for an hour." What an idiot!! LOL.
We don't take you liberal clowns seriously--you're good joke material, though.
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 2:13PM
Notice how 'bullwhacker', like all good wingnuts, refuses to engage the substance of what Obama said in the Q&A.This is entirely expected.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 6:48PM
Obama's a LIAR, dumbo--there was no substance to his stupid little speech.
meatbrain| 1.31.10 @ 7:09PM
"...there was no substance to his stupid little speech."
False. Anyone who reads the transcript of the speech for comprehension can easily see that Obama made a number of substantive statements of fact, and offered a substantive discussion of his policies.
'Patriot' has made it quite clear that it either cannot or will not read that transcript for comprehension.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 11:33PM
Sure, meathead--keep drinking that communist Kool Aid in between bong hits. You're going to get your liberal butt kicked in November anyway.
Tool.
meatbrain| 2.1.10 @ 8:25AM
"...keep drinking that communist Kool Aid..."
Unable to construct a fact-based counter-argument, 'Patriot' is reduced to that hoary old wingnut stand-by: call the other guy a "communist". The word does not, of course, retain its historical meaning. In Old High Wingnutese, 'communist' means 'anybody whose opinion the speaker does not agree with, but to which the speaker cannot articulate a rational rebuttal'.
Patriot| 2.1.10 @ 3:17PM
Fact-base this: We've bagged two Governorships and one Senatorial seat (From blue, blue Massachusetts no less!!) in the last three major elections--all at you liberals' expense.
We've set our sights on November and there's a Democrat electoral bloodbath comin' at ya, moron.
So piss, moan and whine all you want about absolutely nothing--results are the only things that matter and they're ALL going OUR WAY!!
Suck on that grim reality, commie.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 2.1.10 @ 3:23PM
GO SARAH!!
meatbrain| 2.2.10 @ 8:30AM
"...results are the only things that matter and they're ALL going OUR WAY!!"
False. The facts do not support this claim. There were five special Congressional elections in 2009. All were won by Democrats:
3/31/09: Scott Murphy (D) defeated Jim Tedisco (R) in New York's 20th district.
4/7/09: Michael Quigley (D) defeated Rosanna Pulido (R) in Illinois' 5th district.
7/14/09: Judy Chu (D) defeated Betty Chu (R) in California's 32nd district.
11/3/09: John Garamendi (D) defeated David Harmer (R) in California's 10th district.
11/3/09: Bill Owens (D) defeated Doug Hoffman (Conservative) in New York's 23rd district.
It would appear that in the particular dialect of Old High Wingnutese spoken here, 'patriot' means "clumsy, transparent liar". Certainly, little that 'Patriot' has posted in this thread bears any resemblance to reality, grim or otherwise.
Wisco| 1.29.10 @ 7:13PM
Oh golly! A bunch of obstructionist morons forced to sit through an accusation of being obstructionist morons.
Oh the humanity!
Radegunda| 1.30.10 @ 3:35AM
Oh golly, how dare they obstruct the party of tyrannical Marxo-fascists from grabbing more and more and more power over our lives. The nerve! They only want to control all the banks, the car companies, all the student loans, the entire medical industry/profession, how much carbon dioxide we expel, what kind of light bulb we may use, what kind of car we drive, what we may build on our property (oh, sorry, they think it's not really our property), what kind of oil we cook with .... I'll have to leave out a few, but their lust for power is really so very modest. How DARE anybody attempt to restrain them!
shitbrain| 1.29.10 @ 7:27PM
It ain't no meat!
"It's shit and it stinks"
Pathetic bozo as I am, I feel so lonely on my sorry excuse for a liberal blog that I have to belch and fart on conservative sites... Please God give me the guts to shoot my meat, shit, whatever, brains off...
bullwhacker| 1.30.10 @ 11:28AM
Have you been potty trained?
Wisco| 1.29.10 @ 7:37PM
Hey meatball! you should take a look at my garbage room too! it's a mixture of the worst junk the libturds can come up with! ever wondered where jeremiah, s.l. turddard, bob and the intergroper found their stuff? don't look any further! the only thing missing is child porn (unless you have a paypal account, of course.) pull that trigger.
ds80| 1.29.10 @ 10:25PM
Interesting how the libs who post here get so worked up over one man's opinion.
Yet it remains: This President is an Arrogant, Thin-Skinned, Prevaricator.
dbtexas| 1.29.10 @ 10:54PM
Nah. All of the arrogance lies within the domain of a party whose sole desire is to obfuscate any proposals put forward by President Obama and the Democrats. Good for the country or the common man? Nah! We just want to be in power. And, we get worked up?! Hah! Someone has to present at least a smidgen of common sense amongst you all.
OneForThe Gipper| 1.30.10 @ 9:32AM
So, I guess all those Dems in Blue Jersey and Massachusetts (not to mention "Purple" Virginia) are now Republicans, too. WOW! And the roughly 60% of the country that despises Obamacare, the auto takeovers, the bank bailouts, the Porkulus - boy, we're just a country full of obstructionists these days, aren't we? Poor Obama. By the way, if you are so disinterested in what conservatives have to say, why are you here? Obviously, you are as honest as your Boss.......
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:17PM
Hey, dbtexas--last time I checked you liberal morons have a supermajority in both houses and the Presidency. You don't need republicans to pass ANYTHING!!
Even then, you idiots are ineffective! Incompetent fools; liberals can't govern. The democrat party is dead.
Mike| 1.29.10 @ 10:57PM
ds80
I simply refer you to Jeremiah's post.
Siegfried X| 1.29.10 @ 10:59PM
We should treat Obama with the same respect that the Democrats gave to President Bush.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:18PM
Excellent!
Yosemeti Sam| 1.30.10 @ 12:58AM
Again I ask - do BHO have a shrink?
Clearly, listening - osmotically - to a wacko minstrel for 20 years; has to have had shaped this king-lets' retributionist redistributionist agenda.
From an Oxford dictionary:
" Arrogance n. self-assertion, impertinence, insolence, presumption, nerve, effrontery, gall, presumptuousness, self-importance, conceit, egotism, hauteur, haughtiness, loftiness, pride, hubris, pompousness, pomposity, pretension,
pretentiousness, bluster, snobbery, snobbishness
....
Remind anyone of historical figures who've shared those 'qualities' - sliding them to diabolical extreme on behalf of the common man:
for their own paternalistic good?
Hence emblematic of BHO's comfort zone - a 2009 Christmas tree ball ornament featuring biped Mao.
dee cee| 1.30.10 @ 6:16AM
Just let O keep yak-varnishing the truth into a corner and let him pout there until the varnish dries.. and we know the truth of the matter.
Winston Roosevelt| 1.30.10 @ 8:01AM
Obama impressed me with his thoughtful comments and deft handling of language.
Maybe some of you would like to try that.
JanevonMises| 1.30.10 @ 8:07AM
I am glad that the Republicans showed some decorum yesterday. If I had been there, I would have been removed for heckling, or I would have walked out in disgust.
Growing up in the Deep South during the Civil Rights days and thereafter, I got used to politics with a certain amount of "skullduggery by stiletto". But at no point, did the political opponents (often in the same party) resort to this whining, lecturing, "you're so mean", posturing.
What a baby!
And how predictable that he would go for the victim card. "If my policies fail, it's because YOU Republicans wouldn't play with me!"
Stand strong, GOP, our little temper-tantrum in chief needs a big time-out.
Thanks for having the dignity I wouldn't to be able to muster.
Margie| 1.30.10 @ 2:20PM
Dittos, Jane, and likewise. And they try and say there's no diff. between the 2 parties.
Stand strong.
martin j smith| 1.30.10 @ 8:15AM
What is now needed are Conservative/Republican leaders who can politely and intelligently stand up to Obama and call him out on his BS.
RichTX| 1.30.10 @ 9:35AM
That was REALLY funny.
From what I saw yesterday, the search for "Conservative/Republican leaders who can politely and intelligently stand up to Obama and call him out on his BS" began yesterday and the House Republican caucus failed the interview.
I know, get Sarah Palin in there! I am sure she would dazzle us all with her intellectual firepower...
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:20PM
Like you just have...
corn biscuit| 1.30.10 @ 8:21AM
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H. L. Mencken
OneForThe Gipper| 1.30.10 @ 9:34AM
Yep, sounds like Obama and the Dems.......
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.30.10 @ 9:48AM
I do believe we have some of those "covert operatives" we have been hearing about.
Has everyone noticed the same words from different monikers?
Richard Baker| 1.30.10 @ 9:53AM
RichTX:
Yeah, intellectual firepower. Let's see, the "Harvards" as LBJ called them, convinced JFK and LBJ to take their advice and eventual course of action in Vietnam, Carter was a brilliant fool as President, and Gore, the failed Divinity student and global warming fraud/huckster, wanted to be President. Oh yeah, let's hear it for intellectual firepower. How about plain old common sense? As William F. Buckley, Jr. said, "I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." And by the way, how'd you do in college?
Teflon93| 1.30.10 @ 10:35AM
Obama is a tiny man in a big office.
And as bad as he is, in a republic, the people must bear the burden for electing such incompetent fools to high office where they can do much damage, just as Obama has done.
Elections have consequences. Some more so than others.
Ray| 1.30.10 @ 10:50AM
In the end, we are all so very laughable. The Ancient Greeks knew this and nothing has changed. So, embrace your absurdity! You go to your little side and I will go to mine and we can all play pretend.
Michael| 1.30.10 @ 12:31PM
Quin you really suck and the haters on this board and in this country need to grow up. The hate and fear you feel is childish. You have been propagandized and you are being manipulated . You have been programmed to think that you are the only "true" Americans. You truly believe that you need to take this country back from the socialists who are hell bent to destroy it.
Special awards for this programming should go to Rush, Sean, Glen, Hewitt, Gallagher, Medved and Prager for spewing their irrational fears on the radio on a daily basis. These "great americans" will go down in history as complete zeros because selling hate, fear and Ruperts gold is not an honorable way to to make a living or leave a legacy.
Obama is not a Bolshevik or a Socialist. He is the President of the United States.
Margie| 1.30.10 @ 2:12PM
Do you prefer the grape or the cherry kool-aid the most?
Pete| 1.30.10 @ 2:05PM
He sure isn't acting like it. He acts like he thinks he is the king, not a representative as is intended in our form of government. He needs to grow up and stop looking at himself in the mirror. In less than a year, he has become a bad joke the world over. Step out of your progressive echo chamber and read a little.
Oldefarte| 1.30.10 @ 3:25PM
Not to say that I TOLD YOU SO about him, but I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
Olivia | 1.30.10 @ 9:46PM
"...denies that his side has done ANY politicizing or any insults, etc."
YOU LIE! O repeatedly said it was both parties taking part in negative politics. Also, there were many instances in which he humbly took blame for this. He said that he could have done more to facilitate cooperation, and he hopes to do this in the future. This isn't a report, or even intellectual commentary on an historical event; it is slander and representative of the very same "slash and burn media" the president chided in the Q and A. Furthermore, it hurts the American People, and contributes to the divide and incisiveness which we, those of us who hope to get things done, so desperately are attempting to distance ourselves from. Shame on you.
Jbow| 1.31.10 @ 4:02PM
Wow.
It sounds like Mr. Hilyer is a little frustrated that Obama batted down the GOP's best talking points.
Theres nothing like an angry, rage filled, ad-hominem rant from a right-winger to let me know when the president is doing good.
Patriot| 1.31.10 @ 6:51PM
An 'angry, rage filled, ad hominen rant' like you leftist clowns perfected?
BusHitler to you, moron.
Whiny-assed liberals.
Robrepp| 2.4.10 @ 6:12PM
"An 'angry, rage filled, ad hominen rant' like you leftist clowns perfected?
BusHitler to you, moron.
Whiny-assed liberals."
To which you promptly resorted to an ad hominem attack. You people are so disingenous that you can't even accept that you were outvoted, outdebated, and outclassed.
Jeremiah| 1.31.10 @ 6:09PM
The stench from those leftist turds is unbearable! Those fucking Obama butt-kissing liberals are stinking up the joint! Who let those losers in?
Bob Belvedere| 2.1.10 @ 7:18PM
Awarded the THE SPOT-ON QUOTE OF THE DAY at:
The Camp Of The Saints
JT| 2.3.10 @ 10:27PM
Big O handed your assclowns their asses and you know it, troglodytes!
Claimsman| 2.3.10 @ 11:34PM
You brought tears of laughter to my eyes with your hilarious take on what occured. Dude, you are seriously neurotic... seek help ASAP!
Monkey Lover| 2.6.10 @ 1:15PM
Yeah, you're right. Obama is totally not like the last unelected shaved monkey, coke head, dry drunk, 'Nam deserter. I liked it much better when we had a whore court appointed moron who couldn't string together a three word sentence using five letter words without misspronouncing two of the three words. I really did want to have a beer with a guy who couldn't read at a forth grade level. And what happens if something bad happens like the terrorist attack Dumbya ignored and let happen? Obama looks like he can actually read at a fourth grade level! I don't want that kind of uppity "darkie" representing me! I want a dumber than a rock, silver spoon fed white guy who's daddy bought him passing grades in school and puts a male prostitute in the press corp to lob soft ball questions at a guy who might as well be retarded and already knows the answers (but is to stupid to remember them). And I've never once seen Obama french kissing a terrorist Saudi slimball or taking his stank-ass-penis up his rear end like Dumbya used to love doing either. Maybe Obama should totally attack a country that posed zero threat to the USA like the coke-monkey did? Would it make you feel better if Obama stole trillions of dollars and gave it all to his billionair buddies? I know I would. More fun than watching Narlins drown while the "I love man in my mouth" moron looked like a chimp with a guitar in his hand... I miss the good ol' days too... Maybe I'll go and eat yellow cake to celebrate my happy thoughts of George Dumbya Bush, the biggest failure in the history of our crumbling country?