So the Washington Post
reports that bin Laden is still furious about the U.S.
causing global warming.
Al Jazeera, which originally
broke the communiqué story, did so with a headline drawn from
the Tiger Beat school of style: “Obama deplores climate
change”. AJ writes, “In an audio tape obtained by
Al Jazeera, bin Laden criticised George Bush, the former US
president, for rejecting the Kyoto pact and condemned global
corporations.”
Oh, dear. We’re still on that kick again, one I think even the
Post has dropped.
In 2002 Obama similarly parroted
the Western media rant fashionable at the time that we “refuse[d]
to sign the Kyoto agreement”, four years after Clinton signed it.
Even the New York Times issued a correction, in 2006.
Indeed the Post notes that “Bin Laden has mentioned
climate change and global warning in past messages, but the
latest tape was his first dedicated to the topic.” OK. So he’s
losing it. At least he didn’t
invoke Haiti.
But then the Post loses me, with “The speech, which
included almost no religious rhetoric, could be an attempt by the
terror leader to give his message an appeal beyond Islamic
militants.” I can think of at least two things wrong with this
analysis, and will just address the second one, that bin Laden
apparently hasn’t seen the
latest polls indicating there may be better wagon to which
one ought hitch his star.
So, in sum, bin Laden has found common ground with Obama’s State
of the Union speech, in part, accepting what Obama claimed is
“the overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change” —
a material slip-up betraying ignorance, incidentally; the
artful advocate sticks with “consensus, which is about
prophesying, not “evidence”
which is about observations and which is easily checked.
Bin Laden is just not so sold on the “green jobs” rhetoric. As
the Post writes, bin Laden warned of the dangers of
climate change and says that the way to stop it is to bring the
wheels of the American economy’ to a halt.”
Hey, even busted clocks get the odd point right. The big problem
I return to is that bin Laden and the fundamentalists among the
green movement share more than just global warming fervor and
rhetoric. They seem to share an objective.
Pete| 1.29.10 @ 11:22AM
Further justification for why I refer to Obama as Osama. It remains too close to call as to which wishes more harm upon the US.
Mike| 1.29.10 @ 11:30AM
Dear AmSpec Editor,
Is it my imagination or did a blog post on this very subject just disappear? See something you didn't want too widely circulated?
jim| 1.29.10 @ 11:53AM
Mike,
In answer to your post on the other thread that AM apparently removed:
I would say that most AGW skeptics have no problem with true science. The hostility is reserved for politicians, paid advocates and leftist who use falsified data and propaganda packaged as "science" to promote their own political and social policies.
Mike| 1.29.10 @ 12:31PM
Jim,
The people you describe exist. But the distinction between real science and "propaganda packaged as 'science'" is not always clearly delineated and for the same reasons. Those who oppose often have political and social policies they are promoting.
As you know, a good scientist is always skeptical, even when they think they are looking at a preponderance of evidence in support of a theory.
By the way, what happened to that thread?
Truth to Power| 1.29.10 @ 1:17PM
"propaganda packaged as 'science'"
Don't be hard on yourself Mike. You have lots of company.
On the other thread I was making observations about parasites and you apparently wanted to talk geometry or history or something.
As regards the missing thread: Apparently they have decided the East Anglia scientists were withholding their data but no charges will be filed due to a legal loophole. Things are looking up for the warmists.
Eric Cartman| 1.29.10 @ 12:01PM
A few Daisy Cutters would warm Osama's climate just right.
notmypresident2010| 1.29.10 @ 12:12PM
Bin Laden and Mohammed are both Pedophiles
jim| 1.29.10 @ 1:09PM
>> By the way, what happened to that thread?
Mike,
I have no idea. I only found it missing after trying to reply to comments.
>> Those who oppose often have political and social policies they are promoting.
I would say just about everyone, from the lowly African villager who would like electric heating for their home to the large international corporations and banking interest who stand to rake in billions off of carbon trading have a stake in the outcome of the AGW debate.
Jim O'Brien| 1.29.10 @ 2:40PM
Usama and Obama talked via cell phone last night, and Obama agreed that the U.S. is an unclean, despicable, capitalist menace to the ummah. He promised bin Laden that the U.S. government would reduce greenhouse gases by 28% by 2020, when Obama thinks he will still be in office.
Tom Harris | 1.31.10 @ 1:12AM
It may interest readers that the UN has still not responded to, or even acknowledged, the International Climate Science Coalitions' Copenhagen Climate Challenge referenced by Ed. In it, we ask for the underlying data, the observational evidence, for their claims of catastrophic human-caused climate change. The recent 'gates' (Climategate, Glaciergate, Pachurigate, Amazongate and now Weathergate) seem to tell us why they do not want to share much of the underlying data. Here is our open letter, endorsed now by 160 leading climate experts (we still welcome endorsers in the field):
http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org
Tom Harris
Executive Director International Climate Science Coalition (ICSC)
P.O. Box 23013
Ottawa, Ontario K2A 4E2 Canada http://www.climatescienceinternational.org