O'Keefe, who masterminded the ACORN hidden camera sting
operation, was
arrested earlier this week with three other young men for
something or other involving the telephone system in the New
Orleans office of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.)
Does O'Keefe have evidence of some impropriety involving
Landrieu, or perhaps ACORN, or both?
Is the mainstream media being set up by O'Keefe?
We'll see.
A piece in the
Washington Post suggests O'Keefe may have been running a
sting against Landrieu:
[...] Conservative supporters say O'Keefe's newest operation
occurred just days ago. Federal prosecutors allege that he
helped carry out a plot Monday in which two partners
impersonated telephone repairmen to enter the downtown New
Orleans office of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.). O'Keefe, 25,
waited inside the office and used his cellphone to record his
two colleagues saying that the senator's phone was not
receiving calls, according to charges unsealed Tuesday.
Supporters say O'Keefe and his friends entered Landrieu's
office to conduct another undercover sting: to show on video
that citizens trying to call Landrieu's office could not get
through. Now O'Keefe -- a celebrated figure among some
Republicans for his undercover sting last fall targeting the
nonprofit Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
(ACORN) -- and three other men face charges of entering federal
property on false pretenses as part of a plot to tamper with
the lawmaker's phone. If convicted, they could be sentenced to
up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Michael Madigan, O'Keefe's attorney, could not be reached to
comment.
Opponents of health-care reform legislation had complained this
month that they repeatedly heard busy signals when they called
Landrieu's office to register their views. [...]
Even if one takes this rumor as absolute truth; these guys were
courting disaster.
They risked undoing all the good work they did by destroying
their own credibility.
AJsDaddie| 1.28.10 @ 8:37AM
While I agree that this wasn't a particularly bright move by the
O'Keefe gang, I don't agree that it will "undo" anything. The
work he and Giles did with ACORN speaks for itself. The only
people who will jump on this to defend ACORN are those who would
defend it anyway. For example, I found the tapes no less
incriminating because they broke some of the local statutes on
taping conversations - did you?
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 9:42AM
Well, this is were the issue gets sticky - do the videos really
speak for themselves. It has been suggested that the he wore just
a regular dress shirt while filming the videos and added in clips
of the pimp outfit after the fact, as well as possibly dubbing in
new audio of some of his and giles' comments. Whether or not
these things are true, his willingness to skirt ethical/legal
boundaries and even outright cross them calls into question his
previous actions.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 8:50AM
O'Keefe is simply the latest in a long line of conservatives
dating back to the Goldwater and Nixon era who believe that
"extremism in the defense of (their idea) of liberty is no vice."
Sometimes I wonder who some conservatives think is the more
dangerous enemy-their fellow citizens with whom they disagree or
Islamic radicals. Given the rhetoric of the past year, I'm
inclined to think it is the former.
Terry| 1.28.10 @ 9:05AM
Mike from your comment the only thing I'm inclined to think you
believe in is unicorns. If you wish to see extremism one only
needs to venture to the daily kos or moveon.org. Corruption is
rampant and someone needs to root it out.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 9:33AM
"Corruption is rampant and someone needs to root it out."
Apparently, for some conservatives, even if it means breaking the
law. But why would one be interested in conserving such a quaint
concept as the rule of law?
L.E. Light| 1.28.10 @ 12:09PM
When your FASCIST Democrat government prosecutes ACORN for their
crimes and permanently defunds them, when the New Black Panther
Party is hauled into a courtroom, then we can talk about
prosecuting O'Keefe.
Until then, your typical Democrat hypocrisy is showing.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:31PM
Nice try at explaining things rationally, Mike. Unfortunately, it
looks like you'll have to wait until the justice system catches
up with the personal decisions of Terry and LE Light. Guys, if
you want a justice system that is responsive to the personal
decisions of an individual elite that knows better than judges
and juries, you should move to China and join the Communist
Party. And don't worry - you can still be a capitalist.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:38PM
ha ha I just realized that I told a conservative who accused a
centrist of being a fascist to become a communist! (or member of
CPC, at least)
Seriously though if you call the President a fascist you have no
god damned clue what fascism was, and you're flipping your middle
finger at the half million Americans who died to defeat it.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:35PM
Hitler was a socialist, fool. Nazi--"National Socialist German
Workers' Party."
A tyrant is a tyrant, regardless of moniker. Don't get hung up on
names. It's foolish.
Clear enough?
J 2 The B| 1.28.10 @ 9:37AM
I have no idea what was going on with O'Keefe, but I'm sure the
truth will come out. Hopefully he will be exonerated.
But wouldn't that be awesome if he just set up the MSM by baiting
them in to this situation. Only to throw it back in their face
with some new revelation.
Yes, it was risky on his part, but so was the ACORN stuff. He
survived that sh*t-storm from the left, he will survive
this.
The over-reaction from Olbermann, et al. before any details were
made public show you how hot they are to burn this kid alive,
facts be damned. Hopefully James and his crew will have the last
laugh.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:33PM
You like a kid trying to make up excuses why Mom and Dad told him
Santa Claus isn't real. This kid is charged with a felony, and
it's very hard to see how he's not guilty of it, but I'll wait
for a jury to decide that.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:37PM
How about 'innocent until proven guilty' , clown?
J 2 The B| 1.28.10 @ 9:41AM
Another thing, was there this much uproar from the MSM and the
left when someone hacked into Sarah Palin's email account looking
for dirt? Not even when they found out the juicy nugget that the
perpetrator was the son of a Democrat Tennessee State Rep.
Didn't think so. Another glaring example of the biases of the
mainstream media.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 9:45AM
I guess you don't listen to Fox.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:38PM
You made J 2's point. Where was MSDNC then?
Robert Noel| 1.28.10 @ 9:48AM
O'Keefe and friends could be in even hotter water if the US
Attorney (daddy) wanted to up-charge: We are at war - the Truman
Declaration of Emergency re North Korea is still in effect as is
the Declaration of War re Iraq and Afganistan. Landrieu is a
member of the Homeland Security Committee. How about a charge of
espionage in time of war? If convicted he could be shot! Let the
little putz record that on his IPhone.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:39PM
Idiot!
bluecollarbytes| 1.28.10 @ 10:09AM
I'm waiting to see if O'Keefe was going to actually Tap the
phones. Nearly every news article I read yesterday claimed that's
what he was trying to do. I think many news articles these days
are written by folks who simply repeat what they've read in other
news articles, so it may be 'reporters' repeating misinformation.
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.28.10 @ 10:39AM
Let's calm down and let the facts come to light, folks.
Right now its all gassy gossip.
Greg Scandlen| 1.28.10 @ 10:42AM
I'm not sure what the crime was. Going to a Senator's office is
not a crime, and as far as I know pretending to be a telephone
repair man is not a crime. Wiretapping would be, but it is not
clear to me that is what they were doing.
PB| 1.28.10 @ 10:47AM
Pretending to be a telephone repairman by itself is not a crime,
but doing so to gain entry to areas not accessible to the general
public (telephone hub closet) is definitely a crime.
james wilson| 1.28.10 @ 11:06AM
In most instances, being a congressman is a crime.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 11:20AM
And who elects the congressmen? I guess if one exercises one's
franchise, by your definition, one becomes an accessory to
criminal activity.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:40PM
Not if they hide it from us. Or are you psychic?
Doug Wenzel| 1.28.10 @ 11:47AM
The biggest area of legal danger is that Sen. Landrieu's offices
are in various Federal Buildings, that doubtless have other
Federal tenants (local FBI or DEA office, or Homeland Security,
perhaps?) This opens up a wide range of potential criminal
statutes.
Technically, what was O'Keefe trying to prove? That these Federal
buildings had an inadequate number of trunk lines for all the
calls from upset constituents to be routed to the DID extensions
in Landrieu's office? Since government is a monopoly, I'm sure
their planning for Busy Hour Traffic is conservative as to the
ratio of extensions to trunk lines. It's not like a business -
when a client can't get through, who are they going to turn
around and call?
Whatever his intentions, I think there's potential for some very
serious time.
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 12:11PM
Good comments. O'Keefe's attorney's explanation perhaps is
plausible, but it seems like a very high risk/low reward
situation. I mean, even if he could disrupt the phone lines (not
likely) what was his anticipated response by the Senator's staff
going to be? - "Woohoo, the phones are down" - Even if that was
the case, how damning is that? To me this would suggest O'Keefe
is incredibly naive/stupid, or that their explanation is not the
full story.
Sean| 1.28.10 @ 11:50AM
I think public officials should have all their phone lines
tapped. A small price to pay for being able to loot trillions of
dollars from the American people.
Maybe they were manipulating the phones so that people's calls
COULD get through, knowing it would cause Landrieu some
embarrassment. Landrieu's people seem rather quiet about the
incident - you'd think they'd be howling like stuck pigs over an
attempted bugging of their offices.
Liberal Reader| 1.28.10 @ 12:15PM
These young men are accused of breaking the law.
They're not guilty. They're accused of committing a crime.
But it's for the law courts now. If they did what they're accused
of, they deserve to be punished.
All of this is pretty basic.
Now, perhaps this Senator was looking to displace this young
man's father from the court, etc. That'll go to his motive to
commit the crime, perhaps.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:42PM
What crime, clown? Don't you mean "ALLEGED" crime
JP| 1.28.10 @ 12:47PM
I thought last summer's stunt with ACORN was just that, a stunt.
There is no way AG Holder was going to indict them, and O'Keefe
should have figured that one out.
This current situation shows a degree of recklessness that
undermines whatever credibility the young man had. One wonders if
he was just looking for media attention. He broke at least 2
federal laws. Investigative journalism, I always thought was
overdone. Rarely do they pan out. And they require a lot of money
to run. Taking YouTube videos isn't journalism. I think O'Keefe
fancied himself a modern-day Woodward, using the new internet
platform to launch himself into stardom. One thing he forgot -
Woodward and Bernstein got lucky. They worked for a newspaper
that was well funded, and that was owned a ran by people who
hated RM Nixon to the core. They also worked in a city with
thousands of high level bureaucrats with political scores to
settle. He should have realized that since Watergate there have
been no other scandals uncovered by journalists. Watergate has
grown into a myth, and will soon be forgotten outside of
J-Schools.
O'Keefe wants to get his 15 minutes of fame on the cheap. Well,
he's got it. I hope he can stay out of prison.
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 4:10PM
Their new defense is that "they're just kids, they hadn't thought
things through." Haha, I don't buy that in the least, they knew
full well what they were doing or they are just damn idiots.
24-25 year olds are not just kids, especially when O'Keefe at
least purports to being a professional journalist.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:45PM
What did they do that was so terrible? They tried to out Landrieu
because she's lying to her constituents.
More power to O'Keefe and his fellow muckrakers. Traditional
journalism is dead. The Lame Stream Media is thoroughly corrupt.
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Tim| 1.28.10 @ 8:24AM
Even if one takes this rumor as absolute truth; these guys were courting disaster.
They risked undoing all the good work they did by destroying their own credibility.
AJsDaddie| 1.28.10 @ 8:37AM
While I agree that this wasn't a particularly bright move by the O'Keefe gang, I don't agree that it will "undo" anything. The work he and Giles did with ACORN speaks for itself. The only people who will jump on this to defend ACORN are those who would defend it anyway. For example, I found the tapes no less incriminating because they broke some of the local statutes on taping conversations - did you?
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 9:42AM
Well, this is were the issue gets sticky - do the videos really speak for themselves. It has been suggested that the he wore just a regular dress shirt while filming the videos and added in clips of the pimp outfit after the fact, as well as possibly dubbing in new audio of some of his and giles' comments. Whether or not these things are true, his willingness to skirt ethical/legal boundaries and even outright cross them calls into question his previous actions.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 8:50AM
O'Keefe is simply the latest in a long line of conservatives dating back to the Goldwater and Nixon era who believe that "extremism in the defense of (their idea) of liberty is no vice." Sometimes I wonder who some conservatives think is the more dangerous enemy-their fellow citizens with whom they disagree or Islamic radicals. Given the rhetoric of the past year, I'm inclined to think it is the former.
Terry| 1.28.10 @ 9:05AM
Mike from your comment the only thing I'm inclined to think you believe in is unicorns. If you wish to see extremism one only needs to venture to the daily kos or moveon.org. Corruption is rampant and someone needs to root it out.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 9:33AM
"Corruption is rampant and someone needs to root it out." Apparently, for some conservatives, even if it means breaking the law. But why would one be interested in conserving such a quaint concept as the rule of law?
L.E. Light| 1.28.10 @ 12:09PM
When your FASCIST Democrat government prosecutes ACORN for their crimes and permanently defunds them, when the New Black Panther Party is hauled into a courtroom, then we can talk about prosecuting O'Keefe.
Until then, your typical Democrat hypocrisy is showing.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:31PM
Nice try at explaining things rationally, Mike. Unfortunately, it looks like you'll have to wait until the justice system catches up with the personal decisions of Terry and LE Light. Guys, if you want a justice system that is responsive to the personal decisions of an individual elite that knows better than judges and juries, you should move to China and join the Communist Party. And don't worry - you can still be a capitalist.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:38PM
ha ha I just realized that I told a conservative who accused a centrist of being a fascist to become a communist! (or member of CPC, at least)
Seriously though if you call the President a fascist you have no god damned clue what fascism was, and you're flipping your middle finger at the half million Americans who died to defeat it.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:35PM
Hitler was a socialist, fool. Nazi--"National Socialist German Workers' Party."
A tyrant is a tyrant, regardless of moniker. Don't get hung up on names. It's foolish.
Clear enough?
J 2 The B| 1.28.10 @ 9:37AM
I have no idea what was going on with O'Keefe, but I'm sure the truth will come out. Hopefully he will be exonerated.
But wouldn't that be awesome if he just set up the MSM by baiting them in to this situation. Only to throw it back in their face with some new revelation.
Yes, it was risky on his part, but so was the ACORN stuff. He survived that sh*t-storm from the left, he will survive this.
The over-reaction from Olbermann, et al. before any details were made public show you how hot they are to burn this kid alive, facts be damned. Hopefully James and his crew will have the last laugh.
Socialist Jew| 1.28.10 @ 1:33PM
You like a kid trying to make up excuses why Mom and Dad told him Santa Claus isn't real. This kid is charged with a felony, and it's very hard to see how he's not guilty of it, but I'll wait for a jury to decide that.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:37PM
How about 'innocent until proven guilty' , clown?
J 2 The B| 1.28.10 @ 9:41AM
Another thing, was there this much uproar from the MSM and the left when someone hacked into Sarah Palin's email account looking for dirt? Not even when they found out the juicy nugget that the perpetrator was the son of a Democrat Tennessee State Rep.
Didn't think so. Another glaring example of the biases of the mainstream media.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 9:45AM
I guess you don't listen to Fox.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:38PM
You made J 2's point. Where was MSDNC then?
Robert Noel| 1.28.10 @ 9:48AM
O'Keefe and friends could be in even hotter water if the US Attorney (daddy) wanted to up-charge: We are at war - the Truman Declaration of Emergency re North Korea is still in effect as is the Declaration of War re Iraq and Afganistan. Landrieu is a member of the Homeland Security Committee. How about a charge of espionage in time of war? If convicted he could be shot! Let the little putz record that on his IPhone.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:39PM
Idiot!
bluecollarbytes| 1.28.10 @ 10:09AM
I'm waiting to see if O'Keefe was going to actually Tap the phones. Nearly every news article I read yesterday claimed that's what he was trying to do. I think many news articles these days are written by folks who simply repeat what they've read in other news articles, so it may be 'reporters' repeating misinformation.
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.28.10 @ 10:39AM
Let's calm down and let the facts come to light, folks.
Right now its all gassy gossip.
Greg Scandlen| 1.28.10 @ 10:42AM
I'm not sure what the crime was. Going to a Senator's office is not a crime, and as far as I know pretending to be a telephone repair man is not a crime. Wiretapping would be, but it is not clear to me that is what they were doing.
PB| 1.28.10 @ 10:47AM
Pretending to be a telephone repairman by itself is not a crime, but doing so to gain entry to areas not accessible to the general public (telephone hub closet) is definitely a crime.
james wilson| 1.28.10 @ 11:06AM
In most instances, being a congressman is a crime.
Mike| 1.28.10 @ 11:20AM
And who elects the congressmen? I guess if one exercises one's franchise, by your definition, one becomes an accessory to criminal activity.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:40PM
Not if they hide it from us. Or are you psychic?
Doug Wenzel| 1.28.10 @ 11:47AM
The biggest area of legal danger is that Sen. Landrieu's offices are in various Federal Buildings, that doubtless have other Federal tenants (local FBI or DEA office, or Homeland Security, perhaps?) This opens up a wide range of potential criminal statutes.
Technically, what was O'Keefe trying to prove? That these Federal buildings had an inadequate number of trunk lines for all the calls from upset constituents to be routed to the DID extensions in Landrieu's office? Since government is a monopoly, I'm sure their planning for Busy Hour Traffic is conservative as to the ratio of extensions to trunk lines. It's not like a business - when a client can't get through, who are they going to turn around and call?
Whatever his intentions, I think there's potential for some very serious time.
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 12:11PM
Good comments. O'Keefe's attorney's explanation perhaps is plausible, but it seems like a very high risk/low reward situation. I mean, even if he could disrupt the phone lines (not likely) what was his anticipated response by the Senator's staff going to be? - "Woohoo, the phones are down" - Even if that was the case, how damning is that? To me this would suggest O'Keefe is incredibly naive/stupid, or that their explanation is not the full story.
Sean| 1.28.10 @ 11:50AM
I think public officials should have all their phone lines tapped. A small price to pay for being able to loot trillions of dollars from the American people.
Deborah D| 1.28.10 @ 2:15PM
Funny!
JohnD| 1.28.10 @ 12:04PM
Maybe they were manipulating the phones so that people's calls COULD get through, knowing it would cause Landrieu some embarrassment. Landrieu's people seem rather quiet about the incident - you'd think they'd be howling like stuck pigs over an attempted bugging of their offices.
Liberal Reader| 1.28.10 @ 12:15PM
These young men are accused of breaking the law.
They're not guilty. They're accused of committing a crime.
But it's for the law courts now. If they did what they're accused of, they deserve to be punished.
All of this is pretty basic.
Now, perhaps this Senator was looking to displace this young man's father from the court, etc. That'll go to his motive to commit the crime, perhaps.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:42PM
What crime, clown? Don't you mean "ALLEGED" crime
JP| 1.28.10 @ 12:47PM
I thought last summer's stunt with ACORN was just that, a stunt. There is no way AG Holder was going to indict them, and O'Keefe should have figured that one out.
This current situation shows a degree of recklessness that undermines whatever credibility the young man had. One wonders if he was just looking for media attention. He broke at least 2 federal laws. Investigative journalism, I always thought was overdone. Rarely do they pan out. And they require a lot of money to run. Taking YouTube videos isn't journalism. I think O'Keefe fancied himself a modern-day Woodward, using the new internet platform to launch himself into stardom. One thing he forgot - Woodward and Bernstein got lucky. They worked for a newspaper that was well funded, and that was owned a ran by people who hated RM Nixon to the core. They also worked in a city with thousands of high level bureaucrats with political scores to settle. He should have realized that since Watergate there have been no other scandals uncovered by journalists. Watergate has grown into a myth, and will soon be forgotten outside of J-Schools.
O'Keefe wants to get his 15 minutes of fame on the cheap. Well, he's got it. I hope he can stay out of prison.
Phil| 1.28.10 @ 4:10PM
Their new defense is that "they're just kids, they hadn't thought things through." Haha, I don't buy that in the least, they knew full well what they were doing or they are just damn idiots. 24-25 year olds are not just kids, especially when O'Keefe at least purports to being a professional journalist.
Tammy| 1.31.10 @ 1:45PM
What did they do that was so terrible? They tried to out Landrieu because she's lying to her constituents.
More power to O'Keefe and his fellow muckrakers. Traditional journalism is dead. The Lame Stream Media is thoroughly corrupt.
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