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Anyone else eagerly anticipating President Obama’s forthcoming proposal to encourage the wearing of school uniforms? Or not…

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Nancy| 1.20.10 @ 6:18PM

This is a tough one for me. Torn between my conservative/liberatian leanings & the fact that wearing a school uniform (of the school & students' choosing) usually translates into higher grades, kids treating each other better. No one knows who is poor & who is not.

divey| 1.20.10 @ 6:38PM

This is a fallacy based on anecdotal evidence. Actual studies which control for parental involvement and higher expectations result in similar grades.
The kids always know each others economic status. If it's not the clothes, it's the car they come to school in, the school supplies, the haircuts, and the things they talk about doing at home.
And just to be snarky: Most of the major labels have a school uniform division now, including Lands End (isn't that what the Obama girls wear?)

DD| 1.20.10 @ 7:49PM

It's a beginning...If you recall,Mao took this at the highest level,he wanted the entire population forced to wear the same uniforms.How would you like it here in 2013?I did not read Alinsky's book but I bet it is in there!

Ron| 1.20.10 @ 6:19PM

All for it. Two qualities sorely missing in many schools is discipline and respect. Having students wearing uniforms isn't a magic bullet by any means but it would be a step in the right direction.

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divey| 1.20.10 @ 6:27PM

Please direct me to the wall that I can slam my head against. School Uniforms are on a list of "innovations" known as Martha Stewart Education (looks nice, but its still a styrofoam ball with sequins glued on). My kids all had mandatory uniforms at their public schools for over 10 years. They were touted as less expensive. Except that they couldn't be purchased from thrift stores, had to be specific brands, had to be repurchased for growing children and the item list changed yearly so very few items were handed down between children. They were touted as more durable. Not with rough and tumble kids. They're "fashionable" now... but not in West Texas. They improve discipline.... nope. Discipline in a building is built on students respecting authority who is worthy of respect. I could go on for days.... but my last child will graduate and I dearly hope to narrowly squeak out of the next generation of brilliant ideas.

Sean| 1.20.10 @ 6:30PM

Just what we need is more government involvement in schools.

Wong in Hong Kong| 1.20.10 @ 7:32PM

All the primary and secondary schools in Hong Kong, public and private, use school uniforms. Some days its shirt, tie and shoes, some days sweatshirt, sweatpants and sneakers.

It works well. Most income distinctions are muted or eliminated, a certain amount of orderliness helps with discipline and behaviour issues, and for the most part it's easy on the parents.

As Divey points out above, there is an issue of having to buy the whole kit and caboodle from either the school or its designated supplier every year. Including summer and winter wear, the total annual cost is about US$125-150. How would that compare to buying non-uniform school clothes off the rack? Probably less, I guess.

By the way, the teachers are required to dress neatly, too.

Real American| 1.20.10 @ 7:59PM

not as much as I can't wait for the midnight basketball proposal.

Liberal Reader| 1.20.10 @ 8:32PM

School uniforms are an excellent idea, particularly for girls.

When a school system in my state recently went for uniforms, the teachers I know (men and women) in that system rejoiced.

It helps with discipline, self-respect, and -- most importantly -- eliminates the vicious and incessant competition youngsters engage in.

This is something liberals and conservatives should be able to agree on.

To the person who wants less "government involvement in our schools": could you BE a bigger fool? It's called PUBLIC education. If you don't want any part of it, send your kids to private school. It's your right. But the founders of this country were set on it and our tradition has been ever since: the United States offers free public education. The MARKET doesn't do it: the GOVERNMENT does.

Tiffany| 5.23.10 @ 5:29PM

The founders of this country were set on the STATE goverment offering free public education NOT the FEDERAL goverment. Many states let LOCAL governments decide what's best for their constituents. I think this is what Sean is trying to say. It's unconstitutional (if we look at the way the founding fathers intended when they wrote the constitution) to have No Child Left Behind and the federal government mandating what happens in all schools across the country. I love America. And I love it because of what the founding fathers created. So why are we trying to change it to the opposite of what they intended? So we can be more like Europe?

vsatt| 1.20.10 @ 8:47PM

My two oldest are in 3rd and 1st grades and they wear uniforms to school. We love it! It makes it so much easier to get them ready in the morning when the only struggle I have over what to wear is long sleeves vs. short or shorts/skort vs. pants.

I dread the day they move up to a school where they wear whatever they want. The high school we're zoned for doesn't do uniforms and some of the girls look like they go straight from the street corner at night to the classroom in the morning.

CopyKatnj| 1.20.10 @ 9:08PM

This is a tough one but I was just talking about this subject today with an associate. I graduated High School 1970. Beginning in jr. high school till graduation males were required to wear shirt, tie and jacket or sweater (also pants) and dress shoes. Females were also appropriately dressed. This was a public school system. If I had abused my attire, my parents gave me have a good going over how expensive the clothes cost. Thus it was in my best interest to respect my clothing and avoid any actions that would cause trouble. In retrospect, it was a good life lesson to prepare for the future. I still exercise caution when dressed for work and rarely dress down as my associates do. I feel professional and act professional. Perhaps uniforms are not called for, but, appropriate attire wouldn't hurt. Something to consider for future generations.

Franklin| 1.20.10 @ 9:10PM

What the .. ??

SCHOOL UNIFORMS?

How is this:

1) Worth the time to even discuss when the country needs a REAL leader?

2) The Federal Government's business, anyway? Let the school districts and parents decide for themselves.

A Conservative Teacher | 1.20.10 @ 9:50PM

I just hope the school uniforms he wants students to wear are not Brown Shirts.

lily | 1.20.10 @ 10:58PM

i agree school uniform. it's helpful to cultivate student's Simple temperament.
NICE BABY PRAM HERE!

Yosemeti Sam| 1.21.10 @ 1:12AM

Dresses on school girls?

Emphasizing femininity?

Of all the anachronistic things!

Over jeans?

What's this world coming to?

LOL.

JaneVonMises| 1.21.10 @ 9:07AM

Wow! Are the uniforms issued with a red neckerchief. Mmmm mmmm mmmm Barack Hussein Obama!

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Leslie| 6.29.10 @ 2:04PM

Go school uniforms!!

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