Poll: Most prefer House's tax on rich over Senate's
high-end policies
Yes, of course. And by that logic, the following must also be
true:
Most prefer a punch in the stomach over the discomfort
of a poke in the eye.
…people prefer a punch in the stomach?
In truth, people don't really much care for punches, pokes, or
the Democrats' health care plan.
As noted by Phillip Klein and in the New York
Times, if a Scott Brown win takes the Senate out of
further health care contention, Speaker Pelosi might have to
force the Senate's version of the bill down the House's
throat.
Well, don't worry, thanks to some terrific new polling by CNN, that just means the
public will get the health care bill they "most
prefer." The Senate version of the health care bills
polled higher than the House version. That's just the kind of
political cover Reid and Pelosi might need to duck behind in the
coming days. And since the article links back
to…itselffor support of its very own
contentions, I guess we have to take the polling pontificators at
face value.
It appears that the Democrats and those carrying
their water want you to think:
1. People like the Democrats' health care reform.
2. If (perhaps) somepeople don'tlikethe bill, at least they don't really,
really,reallynot like it.
3. Of all the vast hordes who love health care reform, most are
quite fond of the House version.
4. If a Brown win stops the Senate version, Congress will go with
the version of the bill that the people "prefer."
5. ...not very much.
The fine print at the bottom of the article gets to the only
relevant point -- the health care bill is very unpopular:
According to the survey, only 4 in 10 support the health
care billspassed by the House and Senate,
with57 percent opposed.…The poll
also indicates that 28 percent say theywould
be angryif health care legislation passed,
with another 23 percentsuggestingthey'd be displeased.
So, with 6 in 10 opposing the bills, neither version is actually
"preferred." It seems most people would feel like they'd been
punched or poked if it passed -- not happy. At
least their displeasure is only
"suggested." What a polite group of
participants!
More:
"Despite the controversy that has surrounded that legislation
since last summer's contentious town hall meetings, most
Americans don't seem to have an extreme position on health
care.…"
Despite that whole shooting thing, Mrs. Lincoln...
No, they're just angry, displeased, marching on the National
Mall, packing town hall meetings, turning back elections in New
York, Virginia, and turning Massachusetts on its head. But that's
nothing you'd call extreme: not if you were the party that reads
all the current political trade winds wrong.
A mere 52.9 percent voted for a new direction in 2008. Not
extreme numbers but certainly extreme positions. Most Americans
wanted anything to do with George W. Bush -- out.
I think anger and displeasure was certainly present in November
of 2008. We didn't need polls to tell us that.
Similarly, we don't need polls to tell us that we're witnessing
some inconsequential malaise when roughly 60 percent of the
country is taking a referendum back from their recently elected
leader. That isextreme.
Who could possibly read so little out of so much? -- a spiraling
political party and desperate political scientists, perhaps.
As Mr. Keating Holland, CNN-poll-diviner extraordinaire
concludes: "Thismay explain
why the Democrats are going full-steam ahead on health care
despite majority opposition to their bills."
(Emphasis mine).
If by "this" he means a willful indifference to
the public outcry against the Democrats' agenda, he's 100 percent
right.
And "this" may also explain why the Democrats are
headed for real trouble in November.
Following the Obama group into the healthcare plan is like
following Jim Jones. Nothing good can come of it.
Tim| 1.19.10 @ 11:38AM
I think that the exact same thing going on in 2008 is still going
on now. Obama believed that people wanted him and his vision but
what it really meant-and still means is that they are sick of all
the bullshit.
unseen| 1.19.10 @ 1:42PM
This is the direct result when you allow a major political party
to call the entire citizens of the USA stupid, uneducated etc for
voting for the other party. The dems have now accepted that
"fact" and are acting accordingly. They think the American people
are stupid and therefore their voices should be ignored.
In my life I have never seen such disrespect from a major
politcal party towards the citizens of their great nation.
unseen| 1.19.10 @ 1:46PM
The dems healthcare bills will be seen as Pickett's charge in 50
years when political sci major study the 2008-2010 political
history.
Brian in MA | 1.19.10 @ 2:06PM
I have been surprised at how out of touch the democrats have
sounded in the Coakley campaign. They all seem to have the same
out of date script, except for Coakley, who made more gaffes than
Joe Biden.
martin j smith| 1.19.10 @ 2:17PM
Why the surprise they are democrat socialist all they way. This
not news. Why spend time on CNN. Come on get with it guys. There
must be more interesting things to report ? I think looking into
the PBS News Hours is more interesting. I think they are sly and
try to present themselves as "impartial" which I think not.
Flee| 1.19.10 @ 3:21PM
Reminds me of the CNN ads for their decade retrospectives around
New Year's. They showed pics of Obama and balloon boy and Tiger
Woods. All events in the last year or so and showed no pics of
President Bush who was leader for nearly the entire decade. Seems
like a rather curious omission for a "serious" news organization.
Chains| 1.19.10 @ 10:45AM
Following the Obama group into the healthcare plan is like following Jim Jones. Nothing good can come of it.
Tim| 1.19.10 @ 11:38AM
I think that the exact same thing going on in 2008 is still going on now. Obama believed that people wanted him and his vision but what it really meant-and still means is that they are sick of all the bullshit.
unseen| 1.19.10 @ 1:42PM
This is the direct result when you allow a major political party to call the entire citizens of the USA stupid, uneducated etc for voting for the other party. The dems have now accepted that "fact" and are acting accordingly. They think the American people are stupid and therefore their voices should be ignored.
In my life I have never seen such disrespect from a major politcal party towards the citizens of their great nation.
unseen| 1.19.10 @ 1:46PM
The dems healthcare bills will be seen as Pickett's charge in 50 years when political sci major study the 2008-2010 political history.
Brian in MA | 1.19.10 @ 2:06PM
I have been surprised at how out of touch the democrats have sounded in the Coakley campaign. They all seem to have the same out of date script, except for Coakley, who made more gaffes than Joe Biden.
martin j smith| 1.19.10 @ 2:17PM
Why the surprise they are democrat socialist all they way. This not news. Why spend time on CNN. Come on get with it guys. There must be more interesting things to report ? I think looking into the PBS News Hours is more interesting. I think they are sly and try to present themselves as "impartial" which I think not.
Flee| 1.19.10 @ 3:21PM
Reminds me of the CNN ads for their decade retrospectives around New Year's. They showed pics of Obama and balloon boy and Tiger Woods. All events in the last year or so and showed no pics of President Bush who was leader for nearly the entire decade. Seems like a rather curious omission for a "serious" news organization.