The New York Times
reports of the emerging Democratic contingency plan for
passing a health care bill if Scott Brown wins. The idea is to
avoid another go around in the Senate, and have the House simply
approve the Senate version with no changes. But Rep. Bart Stupak,
who voted for the original House bill only after it adopted his
abortion language that was rejected in the Senate, poured cold
water on the idea:
In an interview on Monday, Representative Bart Stupak, Democrat
of Michigan, who opposes the Senate bill because of provisions
related to insurance coverage of abortions, said: "House
members will not vote for the Senate bill. There's no interest
in that."
When the idea was suggested at a meeting of the House
Democratic Caucus last week, Mr. Stupak said, "It went over
like a lead balloon."
"Why would any House member vote for the Senate bill, which is
loaded with special-interest provisions for certain states?"
Mr. Stupak asked. "That's not health care."
I'd like to say, that I trust MR Stupak, and that I'd take his
word at face value, but I can't, because in the last year (plus),
finding an honest Democrat is, well, it's completely impossible!!
I don't believe a word, that comes out of their collective
mouths, about anything. So if he is an honorable man (that he
claims to be), than show it with your actions MR Stupak, and
don't let the Senate force feed you their version of the Bill.
But I'm not holding my breath though, because, everybody in
Washington is for sale these days. Remember Ben Nelson? He sold
his abortion position, for a few bucks Nebraska, and sold his
soul forever!!
Rob of Worcester| 1.18.10 @ 10:18PM
Any Democrat hoping that if the House passed the Senate bill, the
result could be signed by
President Obama into law must ignore the clear public meaning of
the following constitutional requirement: "All bills for raising
revenue
shall originate in the House of Representatives ..." (Article I,
Section 7). Elsewhere the Senate bill has been described as
raising revenue in excess of $200 billion. Maybe the Democrats in
Congress with leanings toward this approach figure that it would
look like a bigger defeat politically to pass no bill whatsoever
than to seemingly pass a bill that would more than likely be
rejected by the courts as constitutionally defective (it would
certainly be constitutionally defective, but that might not stop
the courts from rejecting it as such).
Brian| 1.19.10 @ 8:09AM
Dear Spectator editors,
I find these laptop power supply posts to be somewhat annoying.
Would it be possible for you to delete posts not related to the
blog, like these?
Don L| 1.19.10 @ 6:57AM
"I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"
The little people of America are fearful of their government now
and are just beginning to fight back at this scourge called
liberal progressivism, with its arrogant anti-freedom
impulses.
We are, at this very moment, making history.
Sapient| 1.19.10 @ 9:58AM
The Democrats have adopted the philosophy of JR Ewing of the old
Dallas prime time soap opera:
"When you give up your integrity, the rest is a piece of cake."
Remember the parable of the scorpion and the frog.
"We fight not to enslave, but to set a country free, and to make
room upon the earth for honest men to live in." - Thomas Paine
…on the voters. And “Plan B,” in which the House would simply adopt the Senate health care bill, is never going to happen. Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak has already pronounced that idea dead-on-arrival : House members will not vote for the Senate bill. There’s no interest in that. And Stupak is by no means the only House member with reservations about Obamacare. Democrat Rep. Anthony Weiner…
charlytuna| 1.28.10 @ 2:08PM
Every time I hear people say they don't trust the government, I
am bewildered and bemused. You make the U.S. government the
enemy, when its very purpose is to protect not just your
freedoms, but the freedoms of all Americans. I guess you buy into
the Libertarian Capitalist mantra that any government is bad
government. Don't say you're a Republican if that's true. You do
have a Party, but it's not the Republican Party. It's the
anarchist Libertarian Capitalist Party that has hijacked the name
Republican. They use buzzwords to get well-meaning but unaware
Americans to support them. They have come in a Trojan Horse
claiming to be Republicans but they're not. They're not
necessarily Christians either, even though they claim to be. They
don't really care about abortion, healthcare, security or
socialism. Their only objective is to dismantle the U.S.
government so they don't have to pay taxes, and if they have to
pretend to be Republicans to do it, that's what they'll do.
Machiavelli at his finest. These are the people who have very
nearly destroyed this country in a short 8 years. Why? Because
they HATE taxes. They like making the peasants pay -- just don't
make them pay. Of course, without taxes, we wouldn't have decent
roads, police and military, safety oversight on food and drugs,
criminals would be free to roam the streets...catastrophes like
"Katrina" would be regular occurrence, but hey, if it means no
taxes, well then it's worth it, right? When they say, “Free
Market” what they really mean is, if the American public is
stupid enough to be gouged, than allow us to gouge them! No one
is held accountable, it’s every man for himself. That’s exactly
why Katrina happened. It wasn’t the storm that killed those
people it was the negligence of the Bush Administration. Bart
Stupak may very well be America's next hope. He seems to be a man
with values -- something refreshing in this day and age. Vision
falls flat on its face when there are no values attached -- we
don't need a President who models himself after the past
presidents, we need a President who is himself, the embodiment of
a presidential leader. Someone with vision and character, who
stands up for his values. Bart Stupak has come out of nowhere to
be that man for me. If I have to write him in, in 2012, then
that’s what I’ll do.
Lullaby's, Legends and Lies| 1.18.10 @ 8:20PM
I'd like to say, that I trust MR Stupak, and that I'd take his word at face value, but I can't, because in the last year (plus), finding an honest Democrat is, well, it's completely impossible!! I don't believe a word, that comes out of their collective mouths, about anything. So if he is an honorable man (that he claims to be), than show it with your actions MR Stupak, and don't let the Senate force feed you their version of the Bill. But I'm not holding my breath though, because, everybody in Washington is for sale these days. Remember Ben Nelson? He sold his abortion position, for a few bucks Nebraska, and sold his soul forever!!
Rob of Worcester| 1.18.10 @ 10:18PM
Any Democrat hoping that if the House passed the Senate bill, the result could be signed by
President Obama into law must ignore the clear public meaning of the following constitutional requirement: "All bills for raising revenue
shall originate in the House of Representatives ..." (Article I, Section 7). Elsewhere the Senate bill has been described as raising revenue in excess of $200 billion. Maybe the Democrats in Congress with leanings toward this approach figure that it would look like a bigger defeat politically to pass no bill whatsoever than to seemingly pass a bill that would more than likely be rejected by the courts as constitutionally defective (it would certainly be constitutionally defective, but that might not stop the courts from rejecting it as such).
Brian| 1.19.10 @ 8:09AM
Dear Spectator editors,
I find these laptop power supply posts to be somewhat annoying. Would it be possible for you to delete posts not related to the blog, like these?
Don L| 1.19.10 @ 6:57AM
"I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant"
The little people of America are fearful of their government now and are just beginning to fight back at this scourge called liberal progressivism, with its arrogant anti-freedom impulses.
We are, at this very moment, making history.
Sapient| 1.19.10 @ 9:58AM
The Democrats have adopted the philosophy of JR Ewing of the old Dallas prime time soap opera:
"When you give up your integrity, the rest is a piece of cake."
Remember the parable of the scorpion and the frog.
"We fight not to enslave, but to set a country free, and to make room upon the earth for honest men to live in." - Thomas Paine
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charlytuna| 1.28.10 @ 2:08PM
Every time I hear people say they don't trust the government, I am bewildered and bemused. You make the U.S. government the enemy, when its very purpose is to protect not just your freedoms, but the freedoms of all Americans. I guess you buy into the Libertarian Capitalist mantra that any government is bad government. Don't say you're a Republican if that's true. You do have a Party, but it's not the Republican Party. It's the anarchist Libertarian Capitalist Party that has hijacked the name Republican. They use buzzwords to get well-meaning but unaware Americans to support them. They have come in a Trojan Horse claiming to be Republicans but they're not. They're not necessarily Christians either, even though they claim to be. They don't really care about abortion, healthcare, security or socialism. Their only objective is to dismantle the U.S. government so they don't have to pay taxes, and if they have to pretend to be Republicans to do it, that's what they'll do. Machiavelli at his finest. These are the people who have very nearly destroyed this country in a short 8 years. Why? Because they HATE taxes. They like making the peasants pay -- just don't make them pay. Of course, without taxes, we wouldn't have decent roads, police and military, safety oversight on food and drugs, criminals would be free to roam the streets...catastrophes like "Katrina" would be regular occurrence, but hey, if it means no taxes, well then it's worth it, right? When they say, “Free Market” what they really mean is, if the American public is stupid enough to be gouged, than allow us to gouge them! No one is held accountable, it’s every man for himself. That’s exactly why Katrina happened. It wasn’t the storm that killed those people it was the negligence of the Bush Administration. Bart Stupak may very well be America's next hope. He seems to be a man with values -- something refreshing in this day and age. Vision falls flat on its face when there are no values attached -- we don't need a President who models himself after the past presidents, we need a President who is himself, the embodiment of a presidential leader. Someone with vision and character, who stands up for his values. Bart Stupak has come out of nowhere to be that man for me. If I have to write him in, in 2012, then that’s what I’ll do.