Okay, now that I have ensured that I will receive lots of hateful
comments.... Sarah Palin's decision
not to attend CPAC (the Conservative Political Action
Conference) is ridiculously petty. I will grant that CPAC should
not have let the Birchers be minor sponsors. I don't understand
that decision. But this bit about David Keene and Fed Ex/UPS
(read the link for explanations of these references to specific
issues) was dealt with months ago, and Keene certainly explained
it to my satisfaction and to the satisfaction of most
conservative bloggers as well. In fact, the issue is SO "over and
done with" that it cannot be anything more than mere pretext.
Somehow I don't think Sarah Palin has a long record of letting
her schedule be determined by the wishes of a delivery company.
(And I say this as somebody who has editorialized quite strongly
in favor of the FedEx position in that dispute, which I gather is
the position that Palin in effect takes, which means that my beef
clearly isn't with her position on that dispute itself.) As for
Keene supposedly complaining last year when she pulled out of a
scheduled CPAC event: Hell, I would complain too if a rising
gubernatorial star committed to come to the single biggest
conservative event of the year and then backed out (IF that is
what happened). If that is what happened -- and again, I do NOT
know the circumstances, so there MAY be a legitimate explanation
-- then unless Palin had a really good reason, she did
effectively "diss" not just Keene but the conservative movement,
in which case Keene would have been right to complain.
What I do know is this: I saw Keene at the GOP convention in
2008, early on, and he was positively gushing about Palin,
absolutely thoroughly excited about her selection as Veep nominee
and totally supportive. I don't blame him, therefore, for being
disappointed at her absence in 2009.
What this really looks like is that Palin seems to assume she has
conservative activists in her hip pocket anyway and thus can
refuse to speak to its most enthusiastic activists in order to
take a shot at Keene. Well, IF that is true -- and I acknowledge
this is all based on assumptions that the reports in the links
are accurate -- then Sarah Palin is playing right into her
reputation of being somewhat of a diva. It's hard to be a diva
and a woman of the people at the same time. To paraphrase Fagin
from Oliver Twist: I think she better think it out again.
Mr. Hillyer:
No hate mail from me, but is not our problem the proliferation of
hyphenated Conservatives? We have neo-cons, paleo-cons, movement
cons, fiscal cons, social cons, libertarians, birchers(actually
didn't know they were still around) and now add Tea Party.
With the Conservative movement so fractured, and still a minority
within its chosen instrument, the GOP, how can we ever reagain
our influence? Can Palin play a role? Who else might we look for
to give voice to common ground?
945call| 1.8.10 @ 3:37PM
Check the recent polls, 40% of Americans now call themselves
Conservative, versus Liberal or Moderate, while only 35% call
themselves Rebulblicans, versus Democrats or Non-Affiliated. If
Conservatives are the minority in the GOP, it's not by much and
if they are, the GOP would love to attract the very large
remainder who are most likely Independent. A few might be
Democrats but that group would be very small.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.8.10 @ 6:31PM
Go Sarah! Hope we can survive the next three years of the
Obamination now in office.
carol Collins| 1.8.10 @ 7:06PM
believe Sara Palin has common sense to know what she needs to do
to represent the Republican Party. She has made it clear that
rebuilding the republican party from within is the goal. She
represents republicans as a whole, not a section with its own
agendas.
Jon Lester| 1.8.10 @ 10:55AM
I find her reasoning far from petty. The fact that the John Birch
Society has anything to do with an event she attended would
certainly be used against her in any future campaign. That
association would have a negative impact with the average swing
voter.
945call| 1.8.10 @ 3:31PM
I agree. It would be like someone attending a Tea Party with an
Obama/Hitler sign.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:38AM
945call: "I agree. It would be like someone attending a Tea Party
with an Obama/Hitler sign. "
Sad, but true. The Obama/Hitler sign probably spells political
doom for anyone associated with the Teabagger movement.
The Obama Hitler signs are being carried by
La rouche people - Democrats. Check his website - they sell them
there. They show up at all Tea Parties and Town Halls, and
everyone thinks they're GOP, but they're not, by a LONG SHOT.
Smitty| 1.16.10 @ 6:01PM
It's Nazi Pelousy who accused the Tea Partiers of being Nazis.
She would know.
Kyle| 1.8.10 @ 3:50PM
Speaking at CPAC would hurt her but quitting as gov wouldn't?
Face it, she wants $100,000 to speak at the Tea Party conference.
Meanwhile, CPAC pays nothing. So guess what her motivation is.
Mike Bruno| 1.8.10 @ 4:01PM
Even Andy Barr said she will get between 37 and 50 thousand and
debunked this 1oo k rumor. Liberals just won't give it up.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:43PM
You don't get it, do you? The point is, she should be speaking
FOR FREE.
These are teabaggers, not moneybag-elites -- aren't they? Don't
teabaggers have a problem with people demanding that much money
for a speech, especially when it's paid ultimately by them, "the
little people", the teabagger "base"?
O'Sarah has a PAC she can get funds from, to get to the teabagger
convention, and to cover her expenses -- she has had her attorney
formulate several different avenues to do this.
So, whether it's $37K, $50K, or $100K -- O'Sarah doesn't need to
pick teabaggers' pockets to give a speech to them.
Mike Packer| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
OOOOOOH, just learn a new word? Teabagger? Maybe next week learn
to use it twice in each sentence. Get over your fascination with
that specific act... Unless of course it is something YOU enjoy
so much..
James| 1.8.10 @ 5:20PM
KarenJ is a liberal nutjob from mudflats blog.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:24PM
No, I'm not. I'm a registered Independent. I don't march in
lockstep with 'Bots, like the ones I've seen on C4P and
TeamSarah, and I abhor everything Sarah Palin stands for -- if
anyone can pin down just WHAT it is she stands for. She changes
her mind every week, it seems.
And hey, YOU guys invented the term "teabagger". We on the "other
side" are still laughing because you all didn't realize the urban
dictionary meaning of the word. That's why we keep using it, to
make fun of the goofs who decided to use that name for their
movement.
slayer| 1.8.10 @ 6:40PM
Palin stands for God, Guns, American Oil, Strong Defense, No
Illegal Immigration, Less Government, Less Taxes, Less
Abortion.
Palin does not need the Conservative movement, the Conservative
movement needs her.
You stupid Liberals (and you ARE stupid for voting in this
disaster) need to forget about Palin and focus on President B+
and his out of control spending, atrocious foreign policy, double
digit unemployment, 12 trillion dollar deficit, record bank
failures, record business failures, disasterous TARP bill, and a
golf record in his first nine months that beat Bush's over three
years.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:11PM
LESS abortion? I thought she was "pro life"! As in "no abortion".
None. Not even for rape or incest.
Well, President Obama is one up on our previous president; Bush
didn't get through his first year without a disaster -- Obama has
averted several, including a whole bunch Bush handed him
(including 95% of the deficit you mention). I expected it'd cost
a lot of money to fix these problems. Did you think it was going
to be FREE?
But Bush beat Obama in one thing -- he was on vacation in August
2001 when he was warned Osama Bin Laden was planning an attack on
US soil (voila! it happened the next month. Perhaps BECAUSE Bush
did nothing when he was told that information?)
Obama waited until December of his first year in office before HE
took a vacation.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 3:01AM
Wrong, Madcow KarenJ--Obama took at least a week off 6 months ago
during the summer. Martha's Vineyard, as I recall. Teddy Kennedy
died about that time.
Not so smart Madcow KarenJ the liar.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:13PM
Oh, one other thing -- you can always tell when a neocon
right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into
personal insults, like calling others "stupid". Why don't you
just let the adults talk?
Hey baby, that's hot! Let's you and me take the first Cleveland
Steamer out of here! When we get to Cincinnati, you can get me a
bowtie. Actually, I'll just watch. Stay cool. Y' hear?
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 5:56PM
I don't know, Mondo--if you're gonna hook up with Karen you'd
better protect yourself and make sure she gets an STD workup done
on her first. Never know where those liberals girls have been.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a
loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious
innuendo, and four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:46PM
You descended into personal insults first, Karen. Not only are
you a liar, you're a hypocrite as well.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:19PM
Contrary to YOUR opinion, Janice, Sarah Palin, or O'Sarah, as we
now like to call her, is fair game for insults.
Teabagger is not an insult; teabaggers started calling themselves
that. Too bad they didn't realize what it really meant.
'Bots? OK, I guess that's insulting. No one likes to be likened
to a robot. But if the 'Bots wouldn't parrot those talking points
they get from Redstate or Townhall or Freep over and over and
OVER again, without a scintilla of thought seeming to drift
through....
Gosh, my bad. Mea culpa, I didn't realize all of you neocons HERE
thought of yourselves as teabaggers and 'Bots.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:24PM
On and on it goes. The moronic double standards and poor me
victimization. Listen up fool. Anderson Cooper 180 started the
little perverted Teabagger tag as a sick joke on the air of CNN,
then it went viral among the rest of the jerks on the other cable
shows. Andy had to apologize for it later, but the goal was
accomplished. The activists themselves have always identified
themselves with the Boston Tea Party from American history, if
you will recall.
Not that you would care, it doesn't fit your liar agenda.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:52PM
KarenJ sez: "Teabagger is not an insult; teabaggers started
calling themselves that."
Liar. Prove it.
KarenJ| 1.9.10 @ 6:03PM
Technically, they were saying and printing up signs saying
"Teabag Obama before he teabags you".
Mediate.com reports this: In a press release touting
“unfriend” as the word of the year, the New Oxford American
Dictionary may have unwittingly made a more controversial move
than the New Oxford American Dictionary pretty much ever
does.
No, it wasn’t another cutesy tech neologism: they included
“teabagger” as one of their Word of the Year finalists.
According to the release, they define “teabagger” as “a
person who protests President Obama’s tax policies and stimulus
package, often through local demonstrations known as ‘Tea Party’
protests (in allusion to the Boston Tea Party of 1773).”
Their definition doesn’t touch upon any of the raunchier,
more testicular connotations of the word, which Keith Olbermann
and Anderson Cooper had a lot of fun with in April. Cooper can
take a lot of credit for the popularization of the phrase: in
response to David Gergen’s questions about the Republican Party’s
abilities to organize and articulate a message, Cooper infamously
quipped, “It’s hard to talk when you’re teabagging.”‘
Lest anyone too quickly accuse the New Oxford American
Dictionary crowd of insidious liberal bias, it’s worth pointing
out that “Obamanation,” “Obamamessiah,” “Obamacles,” and
“Obamalypse” were highlighted as notable words./i>
Us progressives/independents and liberals got a laugh out of
"teabaggers", and some of you neocons got a laugh out of all your
Obama alliterations, and some of the horrible things some of you
say and photoshop about Michelle Obama and the two children.
I find YOUR lies and nastiness far more corrosive than
anything I've said here.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:25PM
Yes, Madcow KarenJ--it's Booosh's fault. We knew you'd get around
to it.
Admit, it; you got called out for STARTING the name calling and
smut talking on this blog.
Instead of apologizing for your vile remarks and nasty
disposition you try to deny the obvious and then proceed with the
typical liberal whining and moaning that define you leftist
fools. Poor widdle KarenJ.
We accept your apology anyway.
Looks like you liberals can dish it out, but can't take it.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:20PM
Isn't this hilarious? No one can call this woman any opinion
expressing names or labels, while she goes on and on calling
Sarah Palin every single derogatory name she can think of, and
insulting her family, and anyone who would support anything she
has said, or believes in the Tea Party movement(it is not
Teabaggers idiot, that came from Anderson Cooper 180).
Such compassion and understanding from a kind hearted soul. Ha!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Karen is a liar and a hypocrite with a foul mouth.
The more she spews her hatred for Sarah, the more we support
Sarah. Not so smart, Karen.
KarenJ| 1.9.10 @ 6:07PM
None of us progressive/independents are trying to change YOUR
mind about Sarah Palin. What we have to say isn't for YOUR
consumption anyway. It's for the first-time visitor here who
hasn't been swayed either one way or the other about Sarah Palin
-- and I'd bet that those people find YOUR methods of
communication far more acidic and off-putting than the
fact-checked information Laura, Jack and others including me have
posted here in support of Quin Hillyer's blog entry.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:31PM
YOUR FIRST POST STARTED the smutty name-calling, KarenJ; every
blogger can see that. You deserved whatever was thrown back in
your face. Grow up!
Don't try to weasel out of it.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
Baloney. This isn't a money issue; Sarah's just made millions
from her book.
She made millions from her book, and in February she will make
tens of thousands from her 'bagger chat, and no doubt there'll be
other rubes lining up to have their pockets picked by her in the
future.
The "millions for her book" was a green light, not a red. Free
market, and all that, right? Putting the breaks on squeezing
folks kinda smacks of....what's the word I'm looking for here....
"capitalism" is asking whether they want to pay to hear Palin
speak.
"Socialism" is when the government takes your money and gives it
to someone else so they can listen--but they're gonna take your
money either way.
Amanda| 1.8.10 @ 6:21PM
Socialism is when the government takes your money and pays Lewis
Farakhan thousands of dollars to speak at your child's college.
My daughter is 40 years old now....this indoctrination has been
going on for a long time.
Capitalism is Sarah Palin speaking at wherever
she wants at whatever price she wants. The liberals have no
problem with Al Gore making
billions off the global warming scam.
slayer| 1.8.10 @ 6:42PM
And the Liberals have no problem with both ghostwritten books
from President B+ either.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village has lost its idiot.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
Socialism is what the State of Alaska and Sarah Palin when she
was Governor practiced freely. They taxed the oil companies who
did the "heavy lifting" researching, drilling, and moving Alaska
oil, then distributed the proceeds of those taxes to every Alaska
resident every year, ever since the Alaska oil fields opened up.
Now, if Alaska law directed that the money from those oil company
taxes went into a general fund, and was used for state
infrastructure, social programs, development, etc., then Alaska
might not have to get twice as much money back from the Federal
Government (the rest of us US taxpayers) as the state pays to the
Feds.
In other words, Alaska is both a welfare state and a socialist
state. It's like a little pig, suckling for the past 50 years and
the damned thing won't grow up so we can make it into hams and
bacon. Maybe Alaska secession wouldn't be such a bad thing -- for
the rest of us.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:38PM
What a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance that comment is.
Good grief.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:49PM
Karen's a hater, what can I say? No matter, all the liberal lies
in the world can't stop Palin.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:22PM
No, you're a hater. You hate what you term as liberals (they're
only 17% of the electorate, a nearly insignificant voting block).
It seems more like you hate anyone who disagrees with you.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Stop it, we are not fools. You are a liberal. You use all the
approved buzzwords, have all the right attitudes, and despise all
the right people.
Give me a break.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:30PM
Yes, Karen the smut mouth is a hater who can't hold a candle to
Sarah Palin. Envy is an ugly trait, Karen--you're pathetic.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:25PM
Prove it. Give me some facts that prove otherwise.
My first paragraph is true; my second paragraph is true; my third
paragraph is my opinion.
And PLEASE don't parrot something Sarah Palin said. Nearly
everything she has ever said has been debunked.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:29PM
Nearly everything Sarah Palin has said has been debunked, but you
are a shining beacon of honest opinion and integrity? Laughable.
You are a venomous viper of obsessive hatred, and you quite
frankly are making me sick.
PatM| 1.9.10 @ 1:14AM
Uh, actually, Karen is quite correct. Maybe you could research
the subject.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:54AM
And you're an expert why? Maybe you could provide some proof,
troll.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:18PM
Karen, What is ACES? Where do you think the extra money from
these oil companies now go?
How was Sarah able to put 4 billion dollars away for a rainy day?
Who owes the resources in Alaska? Where does Alaska get their
money to run the state government? What is the CBC? Who dismantle
the CBC?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:21PM
Karen, The people here are not stupid. The money from the oil
companies does fund roads, schools, health,...and on and on. So
stop acting so stupid.
winger2| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
Sound like you hate her because she has more guts than you.
Should be "A..hole1". Jealousy will get you nothing, and that is
exactly what your comment was NOTHING!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Do you want to see me write my litany about what right wing
neocons say when they are at a loss for words? It has something
to do with playground insults.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:33PM
Karen, don't you get it? The more you bleat your vicious lies and
petty gossip about Governor Palin, the more we LOVE her!! You are
helping Governor Palin become the next president of the United
States! Thank you.
I love it.
PatM| 1.9.10 @ 1:18AM
Mrs. Palin will never be the President of the United States.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:48AM
Wanna bet, troll? Cause for damn sure, Myth Romney will never be.
liberal| 1.9.10 @ 8:48AM
which is a good thing for the united states. whew.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:35PM
If we even have a country left after the incompetent moron in the
White House gets done with it.
Bankrupt or blown to bits--which will happen first?
God help us!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:58PM
Karen, my guess is that you might find far fewer true 'neo-cons'
here than you would expect. Try reading up on what a neo-con is,
before you are laughed out of the room.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:47AM
Too late, Tenn; MadCow has already been laughed off the blog.
wayne| 1.8.10 @ 4:46PM
I am not a screaming Sarah fan. There are some odd things that go
on around her and I am not entirely comfortable with certain
things she has said - Alaska is a weird and very libertarian
place so a lot can be attributed to that alone.
That being said, I wish that someone influential would come out
with a more fair assessment of why she left as Governor. Everyone
just accepts that it was cowardice, arrogance, or both.
The fact is Alaska law like its people is extremely libertarian.
It gives huge precedence to the little person taking on the
powerful. Every lawsuit and charge by a citizen leveled against a
public official has to be dealt with seriously and examined
officially at length.
I actually give Sarah Palin credit for resigning when she
realized that she was utterly incapable of continuing to perform
as governor due to spending almost every waking minute closeted
with lawyers giving depositions and fielding legal charges by
other hostile members of the state government.
That she took her duties to the people who elected her seriously
and resigned when she could no longer perform them was an
admirable act. Too bad people like Teddy "the alcoholic Killer"
Kennedy, the Clinton's, Chris "Special Favors" Dodd, and Charlie
"Property Taxes?" Rengel, and Jack "Kickback" Murtha don't ahve
aa similar sense of duty.
A number of groups funded by Democratic/Progressive groups with
very deep pockets were using Alaska's laws to not only ruin her
character and political future but to create a public impression
helped by Ted Stevens issues that the entire Republican
establishment in Alaska was totally corrupt and needed to be
replaced with Democrats.
In resigning she allowed a non-controversial Republican to take
over and removed herself to a place where Alaska law would no
longer be used to stop the process of Alaska government and allow
her to continue to be involved in politics (instead of uselessly
living with lawyers 24/7).
ronw| 1.8.10 @ 4:57PM
Amen. Recall too that she had to pay all her legal bills herself
-- personally. That was before the money started rolling in from
the book. Being elected Governor should n0t include the
obligation to go broke.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 5:09PM
Sorry, but I don't vote for quitters. Why did Palin allow herself
to get in such a governing morass; why couldn't she handle the
job? It's not rocket science. If she was innocent of all the
violations, she could have fought and won. I want a strong
leader, not a quitter.
Palin for President 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 5:58PM
Who asked you, loser?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:35PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a
loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious
innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:40PM
Unlike you, so compassionate and understanding, getting along
with others so well.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:51PM
Yeah, Karen, no stranger to foul mouthed blogging you. You're the
real teabagger here.
Hypocrite.
kelly| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
So your "teabagger" comment wasn't a personal insult or salacious
innuendo??
Um....okay.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:35PM
Karen tucks tail and runs when she's confronted with the truth.
Typical troll.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:01PM
Jack sez: "Sorry, but I don't vote for quitters."
But we NEED you, Jack!! Please reconsider!!!!
Charlie| 1.8.10 @ 10:41PM
Jack she did fight and win every one of the allegations but she
still had to pay her lawyer fees. and some slimy, liberals just
kept making unfounded charges against her. She was winning them
all but it was taking up all her time and resources. In Alaska
the state doesn't pay elected officials lawyer fees. That you
call her a quitter shows you know nothing about why she did what
she did.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:29AM
Wrong. She did not "win" the Troopergate allegation; the
Branchflower Report found that she was guilty of Abuse of Power.
Watch 60 Minutes on Sunday night to hear Steve Schmidt say the
same thing.
I have been considering Palin among other candidates, but I am
shocked to learn that even as a merely casual political observer,
I am more in command of the facts about Palin's record than her
"Team."
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:45AM
Liar Romneybot--she never bankrupted her state like Myth Romney
did. Nice record, RINO.
annieOK| 1.9.10 @ 9:08AM
Jack, have you ever had to fight a lawsuit that was directed at
you, and you were totally innocent? Someone in my family had to
do that a couple of years ago; they are still in a deep financial
hole. Through absolutely NO fault of their own, they had to spend
all the savings they had accumulated over a lifetime and borrow
some more to clear their name and protect themselves. They were
exonerated, as they should have been, but the financial,
emotional, and TIME costs were horrible. Going through that just
the one time was life-altering, and I can't imagine what it would
be like to face that continuously, when as soon as one is
finished, up pops another one.
She did the morally and fiscally correct thing by removing
herself as a target, for both her family and her state.
J. Fred Smug| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
oh, BOO EFFING HOO. You do realize that the most expensive ethics
claim was the one which Sarah Palin filed AGAINST HERSELF, don't
you?
Why do FACTS always seem to take a vacation whenever Palin's
adoring fan base blindly sing her praises? PATHETIC.
serena1313| 1.9.10 @ 4:39AM
You should talk to the people ... who actually live in Alaska.
Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, but not the facts.
The fact is Sarah did not quit because she couldn't perform her
duties as governor due to the law suits. Sarah quit for some
other reason, what it is no one seems to know for sure.
There is an argument to made: Alaska has a law that says
officials cannot accept monetary proceeds from any outside source
while in office. Quitting was the only way she could collect the
$5 million for her book not to mention the 6-figure speaking
fees. With greener pastures ahead, much more money to be had,
places to go and thousands of adoring fans to see, Sarah took-off
running.
Insofar as her legal bills ... they've been paid ... by her loyal
followers who generously gave up their hard-earned money. And
Sarah continues to ask for contributions to SarahPAC.
One of the ethics violations Sarah filed herself. Not all have
been dismissed some are still pending.
Talk to the folks in Alaska, you might learn something. You may
not like it, but facts are facts. You can either deny or accept
them, but you cannot change them.
liberal| 1.9.10 @ 8:50AM
i think i know why she quit, or at least the single biggest
reason: $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:39PM
Of course, a materialistic, cynical liberal would think it's all
about money because that's all you corrupt democrats care about.
Money and power.
At least Sarah earns her own money instead of stealing it from us
like you leftist losers.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 10:54AM
serena1313, your facts are wrong. You might be the one who needs
to learn something about this.
There is a legal defense trust set up for Sarah Palin's legal
bills by a close friend of hers in Alaska, it's called the Alaska
Fund Trust. This was where the donations for legal fees
went.
Guess what? The fund itself was attacked with ethics complaints
on the premise that the Governor could be influenced to
corruption by thousands of people all over America who sent
contributions of $20-$50, with an upper limit of $150. So, the
fund trust was legally frozen by the very same few ankle biting
complaint filers that made it neccessary to begin with, proving
that this effort was never about good government, but personally
bankrupting the family of a politician these people disagree with
and are threatened by.
There have been no transfers of money out of that fund to this
day.
You don't know what the heck you are talking about.
Tam| 1.9.10 @ 5:34PM
Have you seen any financial reporting out of the AFT? Please
provide a link, it would help very much!
checktothepower| 1.8.10 @ 10:58AM
I agree with Palin,enough said.
bluecollarbytes| 1.8.10 @ 10:59AM
....as though personal conflicts between political allies haven't
been around like forever.
I would prefer that ALL politicians "get over themselves'
already.
I understand if Sarah Palin is somewhat reluctant to simply
embrace Party establishment types at a time when there is so much
uncertainty as to whether true conservatism is its fundamental
goal.
When you throw yourself on the cross of self pity in the first
paragraph its kind of hard to read the rest of your post.
that said ... its appears to be just another Red on Red fragging
post ...
I'm sure it will get picked up by the next WaPo article on the
divsions in the GOP ... should help your sitemeter numbers ...
Why are you wasting ammunition of shooting at Palin over an
internal GOP issue ?
Wouldn't it be better for conservatives if you wrote about ways
the GOP and conservatives can stop Obamacare ?
Or do you think Palin attending CPAC is a strategy for that ?
I take it you have gotten over yourself and are attending CPAC
like all of the other wise and smart conservatives.
chercast| 1.8.10 @ 11:07AM
Memo to Quinn Hilyer: Palin is making a high risk political move
to reach out to independents to actually have a chance to get
elected. She knows what she's doing. Get over it.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:47PM
I'm registered Independent. She's not reaching out to ME. She's
reaching out to an entirely different, dissociative,
disconnected, disinformed mob that's eager to follow a leader
willing to take advantage of their amorphous anger. I'm old
enough to remember how dangerous demogogues like that were in the
past in this country.
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Karen your a known leftist from mudflats so stfu.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:36PM
Stop trying to take away my first amendment rights.
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a
loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious
innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:53PM
Hypocrite.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:31PM
Is that all you got?
Aw....you feel badly because you took "teabagger" and " 'Bot"
personally? I'm sorry! That's MUCH worse than "unwashed", "fat",
"ugly", "bitch", "c!nt", "stfu" "loser", "A..hole1"....
Janiceruthi| 1.8.10 @ 7:39PM
Poor widdle Karen, she the sweet, shining light of trolldom who
flings her smut first and then cries and whines when confronted.
Whiny troll.
Sane Person| 1.8.10 @ 11:18PM
Janice-
There is something wrong with you. A wee bit "touched" maybe? You
should really get some help.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:42AM
Sure, Sane person. Did you have to give yourself that name to
convince yourself?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:04PM
KarenJ: "I'm registered Independent. She's not reaching out to
ME."
We don't want you, Karen. We'll get by somehow.
Jeff| 1.8.10 @ 11:13AM
one other nit to pick ...
I assume you have worked in the business world. Have you ever
sent a memo to your boss or someone higher up in the food chain ?
Didn't think so ... Your boss sends you memos ...
"Advice for Gov. Palin" would seem to be a more appropriate
title.
You see, when people see your "attitude" they respond with
attitude ... aka, hate mail ...
Leigh| 1.8.10 @ 11:14AM
"Keene certainly explained it to my satisfaction and to the
satisfaction of most conservative bloggers."
So if he explained to you and some other unidentified "bloggers"
the rest of us are just supposed to set aside our own opinions
and judgements and "fall in line" with The Bloggers?
Sorry, but I'm done letting pundits and politicians tell me what
to do, what to think, how to think, and who to support.
It's every man for himself now.
Grzmlyk| 1.8.10 @ 11:19AM
Yikes - Palin certainly ignites passions.
I will only say this - I'm rooting for her. I like her very much.
I think she's bright, but not an intellectual - which is great,
because I think intellectuals are solely responsible for
destroying this country.
But: I need to see more from her. A lot of folks have coalesced
around her, but I haven't seen the kind of leadership that Reagan
exhibited from the 1960s on.
I'm NOT saying it's not there. I'm just saying I need to see more
from her. this might have been a great platform for her.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:57AM
I think yours is one of the best posts of the evening. I agree.
Have you read her book, by the way?
Also, a moratorium on Ivy League candidates for high office is an
idea whose time has come .. :)
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Palin made the right decision. The Birchers are radioactive for
someone like Palin.
My own view is that any conservative who speaks at CPAC ought to
be as tainted with the Birchers as Kevin Jennings is tainted by
NAMBLA (given his statements about Harry Hay).
Any potential presidential candidate who speaks at CPAC will
never hear the end of the questions of "Why did you appear at a
conference sponsored by a group that considers the Birchers
mainstream?"
The ones that show up and speak at the conference are asking for
it. Palin is smart. Remember what happened with her husband's
affiliation with the loopy Alaskan Independence Party (or
whatever they are called)? Palin knows better.
Red Phillips| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
Oh Dr. Beckwith you disappoint me. The Alaska Independence Party
is "loopy?" The AIP, while not technically affiliated with the
Constitution Party, has represented the state of Alaska at the
Constitution Party National Convention the last two cycles (2004,
2008) (maybe longer?) and endorsed/gave ballot access for the
Constitution Party nominee. Palin's husband's affiliation with
the AIP and her willingness to address them and the Alaska
Libertarian Party was one of the reasons (along with her past
support of Buchanan and the nice things she had said about Ron
Paul) some of us paleos had some hope for Palin before she sold
out to the McCain campaign.
The AIP may be more conservative than you wish to go or think
practical, but to call them "loopy" is a simple slur that is
beneath a man of your stature and learning.
catina| 1.8.10 @ 11:29AM
PLEASE LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!!!!!!! I F SHE DOESN'T WANT TO COME SHE
DOESN'T HAVE TO. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SUCK UP UP TO A SCRAW POLL
TO LOSE.
L. Ross| 1.8.10 @ 11:54AM
Catina, be careful when you use all caps. It makes it appear that
you don't know when to capitalize you letters. Also, you may want
to write your comments in a "Word" document, then cut and paste
them here. That would prevent your poor spelling (scraw) from
being evident.
T. Heath| 1.8.10 @ 12:13PM
Lighten up. You used the word "you" instead of "your".
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:38PM
LOL!
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.8.10 @ 11:36AM
Hi Quin.
I don't know Sarah's thinking on this.
I am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt.
I hope you will too.
Other than your "hook" of a title for your blog, I thought it was
pretty good, and interesting.
You know, one thought...CPAC is pretty much an "ole' boys club."
Maybe she didn't want to climb into that particular treehouse.
icarus| 1.8.10 @ 11:39AM
Palin doesn't attend CPAC because they don't pay her way and a
(big) speaking fee.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 11:58AM
icarus, your wings are melting.
~Go Sarah!
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
Don't tell him, Margie! If we're lucky, he'll fly closer to the
sun.
Palin 2012!
ctay| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
icarus, hmm why does that name ring a bell... Oh yes Charles
Johnson Little Green Foolsballs....
(when Johnson went by the nickname "Icarus") hangs on his office
wall.
Wings met sun, crashed and burned. It is Palin's choice to do
what she wants. She is a private citizen now, under no obligation
to anyone or any group. If you dont approve of her choices, then
by all means if she runs for office dont vote for her. But as of
now there has been absolutely no announcement that she will run
for any office or that she owes any obligation or loyalty to any
group.
Go Palin.
Atheists for Palin!
greg| 1.8.10 @ 11:42AM
Contrary to the impression you give everyone, David Keene has
said some pretty bad things about Palin since the election. For
that reason alone, I don't have any problem with her ditching his
group altogether. Last year he used her to attract a bigger
crowd, even though she never committed to come, because CPAC
always occurs during the Alaska legislative session. BTW, that is
why she didn't attent CPAC in 2008, as well, when she was pretty
much unknown. Besides, CPAC has essentially become an East Coast
affair closely aligned with Romney, with quite a few Paul
supporters showing up as well. It's not exactly a representative
conservative group.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 12:00PM
Paul supports despise her. at least from what I've seen and
heard. They're rabid.. I'd stay far, far away too.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
I've been a strong Paul supporter for 20 years. When he announced
his candidacy in 2007 I was thrilled. I didn't think he would
win, but I wanted him to get his views out in TV debates. And
that has proven worth it because he has more influence in DC than
he did before. People now listen to him.
Well, during the primary campaign two things happened. The media
controlling who got time in the debates shunned him, and when
they did ask him a question it was generally a stupid one,
totally away from his message.
But the other thing that happened was his campaign took off.
Great excitement, money bombs, a blimp, huge cheering crowds. He
was the first rock star (of three) of the 2008 election. But
because the media, even and especially FOX, continued to shun
him, he couldn't translate the Ron Paul R3volution into votes.
So I began to look for a candidate for the future who could pick
up that excitement for limited government, individual liberty,
and free markets, who would be young and energetic, and most of
all would be so incredibly charismatic that the media could not
resist heavy coverage.
Well, August 29 brought to light guess who. She was everything I
had wished for and then a whole lot more that I had not evened
imagined.
Dr. Paul had two major elements to his campaign - libertarianism
and foreign non-intervention. I suspect it is those who
gravitated to the Doc because of non-intervention that would not
support Palin. But I think she fits the libertarian agenda better
than any "electable" candidate we have ever seen.
So as I agree that she should avoid CPAC, I don't agree that she
should avoid Ron Paul supporters.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:14PM
Great post.. excellent points. Glad you have that kind of
awareness and I have to agree with you!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:10PM
My sentiments exactly !
Pete| 1.8.10 @ 11:44AM
I don't get it. What's the problem with the JBS? In fact they
have been right all along. I think it is foolish for
Conservatives to not reflect on what Republicans have actually
pushed us down the road towards socialism.
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:21PM
they are 911 truthers. DUH
Sean| 1.8.10 @ 11:46AM
There is nothing wrong with the John Birch Society. I am not a
memeber but I would jump at a chance to replace almost all
elected Republicans with birchers. Then we might actually have a
conservative agenda.
My experience is that folks that write "there is nothing wrong
with the John Birch Society" -- are usually clueless about the
underlying premises of JBS ideology which are sanitized for
public relations purposes.
For details, see following report based upon FBI files:
Palin quit her politician's job to become a full time celebrity.
I don't understand why some people expect her to be some sort of
political savior when she doesn't want to be one. None of her
decisions have made any sense for someone who wanted to run for
office again, especially the presidency. Palin clearly is out of
politics.
I also don't understand why people assume she is a solid
Republican and conservative when she has spoken many times of
supporting candidates in parties other than Republican (and she
certainly didn't mean third party conservative).
For some reason conservatives have invented this imaginary Sarah
Palin who is their dream candidate, but is nothing like the real
Palin.
Some people fall in love with a life story and make incorrect
assumptions. It's as pathetic as Republicans who say, in spite of
the facts, that John McCain MUST be a conservative because he was
a POW.
bluecollarbytes| 1.8.10 @ 1:07PM
There is no "dream candidate" out there. Sarah Palin is but 1
imperfect human. BUT, at least she is unafraid of American
history and its unique place in a crapped-up dangerous world. She
feels no need to assign 'good intentions' to an opposition whose
rise to power is always first run right through demonization of
conservative philosophy and individuals.
At least Palin Opposes, making her more of a 'man' than most of
the pretty pedicured males currently jockeying for position.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:17PM
Sadly for us, it's not that Palin is unafraid of American
history. Palin doesn't KNOW any American history. I want a
conservative candidate who knows the history of our great
country.
Also, as a man, I don't find Palin's lack of knowledge "manly."
bluecollarbytes, are you anti-male?
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:51PM
How do you know Palin doesn't know any American history? You
stupid, psychic or just anti-female?
You sound like just another troll spewing your hater nonsense.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 5:12PM
She doesn't know 20th century and 21st century American history,
and she doesn't know Iraq from Iran.
You have to label me a troll and anti-female because the facts
show you are wrong? She's on film unable even to name a legal
case she disagrees with, even though the Exxon-Valdez case was
one of the worse in AK history.
She had a son serve in the Iraq/Afghanistan theater.
Are you the same Jack that drive by trolls over at
RightWingNews.Com? You sure seem as dumb as he is.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:43PM
Yeah, he was in the "theater" all right. 80 miles from Baghdad.
After he'd trained in Kuwait. Rumor has it -- I don't have
confirmation -- that his superior officers didn't send him out on
any missions, because they knew their heads, and careers, would
roll if he was injured or killed.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:22PM
I think Karen's a Palin stalker. Nutjob.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:02PM
What "facts" moron? The words you've written on an anonymous
blog? Libtard.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:12PM
I guess you didn't watch Palin during the 2008 election. I guess
you didn't watch her last year on Hannity. Otherwise, you'd know
that her lapses of knowledge are on film.
Same old saw. That all you got? Not impressed, troll.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:38PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a
loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious
innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:56PM
Karen, hypocrite, you used teabagger first.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:45PM
And that's STILL bothering you? Get over it, already.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:27PM
No, it doesn't bother me that you're a foul mouthed hypocrite.
You're the one who is whining and complaining about the big bad
republican meanies.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:13PM
"I want a conservative candidate "
I don't believe you.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 4:54PM
Siegfred x, Palin resigned: $500,000 in legal fees that only
Alaska makes elected officials pay for themselves. Cost of over 2
million to tax payers to pay for frivolous ethics charges.
Obama - quit Illinois senate to become Senator. Quit senator to
become quasi-president, fail
Many senators quit to become governors or vice-versa.
Of course she will campaign for anyone who is conservative and
many of all parties are conservative. Apparently you ARE NOT.
It is also apparent that you have not read or listened to any of
her facebook posts, WSJ op-eds, speeches or anything else. So,
you really have nothing to say about Sarah Palin nor a single
fact.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:48PM
It's been proven over and over that the nitwits who totalled up
the $2M counted quite a few costs several times over. The REAL
cost to Alaska was under $300,000.
YOU didn't back up your claim with any links, but I will:
And just so you know: When President Obama was ELECTED President,
he resigned his Senate seat. Can't be both at once. It's not
"quasi-president", it's "President-Elect".
That's so elementary, I'm surprised you have to be told that.
P.S. Sarah Palin doesn't write her Facebook posts or her WSJ
op-eds. They are written by Rebecca Mansour, or Tim Lindell.
Sarah Palin writes like she talks, and those screeds don't
"sound" anything like her.
KAREN'S A PALIN STALKER| 1.8.10 @ 8:29PM
You need a shrink, troll. Are you Joy Behar?
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 10:59AM
There is the biggest clue that Sarah Palin's Facebook posts have
been exceptionally effective, idiots like Karen insist that she
could not possibly have authored such well reasoned commentary.
If they were ineffective, the authorship would not be denied.
Case closed on that one! Hahahaha
Oh Dr. Beckwith, you're killing me. I never imagined you as the
enforcer of mainstream (which is yesterday's far left) orthodoxy
type.
While I don't have much use for the John Birch Society’s
conspiratorial orientation, they have long been rock solid on the
issues. They are consistently constitutionalist, unlike most of
the advocacy groups that make up Conservative Inc. which are
politically pragmatic, certainly not strict constitutionalists,
and overly deferential to the GOP in their perspective. I will
take conspiracy theorist true constitutionalists over
non-conspiracy theorist "mainstream" conservatives any day of the
week.
Has the JBS sponsored CPAC in the past? Is this a new
development? If so, Keene deserves praise for allowing this once
pariah group (after one of Buckley’ famous “purges”) back in the
good graces of the “movement.” And if this is really one of
Palin’s justifications (it doesn’t ring true to me), then she
needs to seriously reconsider. The JBS has more support on the
activist “far” right than she might realize.
The purpose of politics is to advance the common good and do so
by winning elections. JBS does neither.
Imagine if Obama had said this about the Weather Underground:
"While I don't have much use for the Weather Underground's
violence, they have long been rock solid on the issues. " Would
you find that acceptable?
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."
"Imagine if Obama had said this about the Weather Underground:
"While I don't have much use for the Weather Underground's
violence, they have long been rock solid on the issues. " Would
you find that acceptable?"
Of course not, because the Weather Underground is wrong on the
issue and advocated violence. But the JBS is right on the issues
with a few small quibbles and doesn't advocate violence. What
part of the JBS political agenda do you disagree with exactly?
"The purpose of politics is to advance the common good and do so
by winning elections. JBS does neither."
The JBS seeks to get the Fed Gov to actually follow the
Constitution, a quaint idea I know, and I consider that an
attempt to advance the common good.
Red: When the JBS was given the opportunity to demonstrate how it
intended to "follow the Constitution" and in the process reveal
"its agenda" during the 1960's -- it chose to ally itself with
racists and segregationists and to oppose and vilify every
national civil rights leader and organization.
The following quote comes from a source which even Birchers
respect – i.e. a very prominent African-American author and JBS
speaker, George S. Schuyler:
"The White Citizens Council which has branches or cells
everywhere, controls by terror such states as Louisiana,
Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and to a
lesser extent, Virginia...It has defied and disrupted the
operation of the laws of the land. It has used threats and
vicious economic reprisals...It has become a legal arm of
Mississippi's Government.” [4/22/61 Schuyler column in Pittsburgh
PA Courier]
Furthermore, let’s also consider a comment made by JBS member
(and FBI informant within the White Knights of the KKK of
Mississippi), Rev. Delmar Dennis:
"The Klan in Mississippi has completely infiltrated every phase
of the legal, political, social and economic system in
Mississippi. The membership in the Klan ranges from common
laborers and criminals, to judges, lawyers, doctors and political
leaders. While they may not be active members, they are secret
members who use their influence to further Klan efforts and aid
Klan activities, for example, it is generally known in Klan
circles that supervisors who pick juries use their influence to
get Klan members on the jury panel."
Unfortunately, the Birch Society interpreted the problem in our
southern states as entirely an abstraction instead of
understanding the real-world consequences to living human
beings.
The JBS totally ignored, de-valued, trivialized, or facilitated
the daily injustices and crimes often committed (or condoned) by
the very people in southern communities whom had the
responsibility for translating abstract principles into reality.
These were the folks who made “state’s rights” and the words
“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” into a cruel joke.
The reason why the JBS is so often "linked" (unfairly) to the KKK
is because:
(1) they both supported and praised the same racist
politicians---such as Gov. George Wallace (AL) and Gov. Ross
Barnett (MS) and Senator James Eastland (MS) and
(2) they both opposed all civil rights legislation and
pro-integration efforts and
(3) they both described the civil rights movement as
"Communist-created" and "Communist controlled" and "serving only
Communist purposes" while simultaneously denouncing all civil
rights leaders and organizations and
(4) they both had senior officials who were racists and
segregationists.
In addition, even Rev. Delmar Dennis told his FBI contact that
the KKK viewed the JBS as a fertile recruiting ground. In fact,
at least one JBS chapter in Mississippi had to be disbanded
because it refused to terminate the membership of a known KKK
member.
In an 11/7/64 report to his FBI contact, Dennis stated
that:
"I have learned that the Klan uses meetings of the John Birch
Society, Masons, and Americans For The Preservation of the White
Race to solicit members for the Klan. The Auxiliary Police in
Neshoba County is a front for Klan membership in Neshoba County."
Dennis himself was a JBS member, a segregationist, a KKK member,
and a member of Americans for the Preservation of the White Race
even before he became an FBI informant. He also founded a
whites-only church in his community.
As the FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Jackson MS field office
wrote in a summary memo about Dennis:
"Informant is widely known in rural Mississippi as an ardent
segregationist…He founded the First Southern Methodist Church in
Mississippi, which church was founded for the sole intent of
maintaining racial segregation."
The Birch Society welcomed racists and segregationists into its
ranks as members, as chapter and section leaders, as writers and
speakers, and including as National Council members -- such as
A.G. Heinsohn Jr., T. Coleman Andrews, and Tom Anderson.
Major officers of the White Citizens Councils movement were also
Birchers, such as: Medford Evans, William J. Simmons, and Louis
W. Hollis.
The Birch Society employed racists and segregationists as
speakers under the auspices of its American Opinion Speakers
Bureau – such as Sheriff Jim Clark of Selma AL and Rev. Ferrell
Griswold of AL.
The Birch Society approved of and promoted incumbent politicians
and candidates for political office who were unapologetic
Klan-supported white supremacists – such as Sen. James O.
Eastland of MS and Gov. George Wallace of AL and Ross Barnett of
MS. Often, the JBS sponsored or reprinted their speeches or
otherwise endorsed their rants which characterized the civil
rights movement as a Communist enterprise -- which was certainly
music to the ears of the most rabid bigots in control of southern
communities.
Kent Courtney, a prominent JBS leader in Louisiana, was the
featured speaker at a 6/5/65 “Conservative Rally” in Natchez MS
sponsored by Americans For The Preservation of the White Race,
Inc.
William J. Story, a JBS member who was a candidate for Governor
of Virginia refused to join the other major party candidates in
condemning the KKK.
James H. Sutherland was a JBS chapter and section leader in
Missouri who founded the St. Louis chapter of White Citizens
Councils. He was also active in Southern States Industrial
Council and helped craft their annual Declaration of Policy which
opposed school integration.
Another prominent Bircher, Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker, wrote in
1965:
“I’ll bet you will find more good Americans in the Ku Klux Klan
than in the Americans For Democratic Action.”
The JBS and its membership took these positions or made these
statements while claiming that they merely were "following the
Constitution" -- so we now know what type of society and what
depredations of freedom and dignity the JBS is prepared to accept
as reasonable and "Consitutional" if left to its own devices.
L. Ross| 1.8.10 @ 11:58AM
Palin 2012. Vote MILF.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:53PM
Ross, don't be a horndog--you're embarrassing yourself.
jharp| 1.8.10 @ 12:06PM
"Palin 2012. Vote MILF."
That pretty much sums up conservatism. The last guy they voted in
was the guy they'd most like to have a beer with.
How's that turn out?
Al Adab| 1.8.10 @ 12:23PM
Last guy the Conservatives voted in (President? I assume) was
Reagan. Have a beer with him? Never.
GOP has betrayed Conservatves time and again - to our lasting
shame.
astonerii| 1.8.10 @ 12:46PM
Actually, I think that is the Democratic voter that does that
sort of thing.
Conservatives vote for issues, and not just one or two, but
usually full packages.
Drider| 1.8.10 @ 12:15PM
I won't send hate mail either and I'll simply state that with
Palin's past track record, I will go with her gut feelings
anytime.
The beautiful thing about Palin, IMHO, is that she is a
conservative and better yet, a conservative for the people she
used to represent in Alaska.She took it to both parties to get
her way and her way turned out right.
I'm much more depressed on the silence of the GOP in total at the
moment, mainly because it gives me that crappy feeling that they
learned nothing from the trouncing they recieved and are poised
to take over the ruins left by the socialists just,,,,,,because.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:39PM
"is that she is a conservative and better yet, a conservative for
the people she used to represent in Alaska".... ah, she did? ah,
that was when they had fist fights over her at the Republican
Party of Alaska Annual gathering. Palin liked the fist fights.
That is the conservative party element she represented.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
Fistfights not in a good way, either. Palin, trying to show how
little like her predecessor Murkowski she was, pushed through a
lot of pet projects that had the approval of Democrats in the
Alaska state legislature in her first year of office -- when she
bothered to show up for work, that is, about 4 hours a day -- and
doing that, earned the enmity of the Alaska Republicans.
In 2008 she hardly showed up at all in Juneau except for the
State of the Union speech and photo ops, which prompted the
"Where's Sarah?" lapel buttons everyone in the legislature wore.
Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters are
left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing now
"to progress the people of Alaska".
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:14AM
"Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters
are left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing
now "to progress the people of Alaska". "
Huh?
Is that why Palin had the highest approval ratings of ANY sitting
Governor? >80% ?
Here's a tip. ma'am. When you lie, at the frequency you do, no
one believes anything else you have to say, no matter how sincere
or truthful you are. My kids learned that when they were about 2
or 3 years old.
Did you have parents?
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:46PM
Of course KarenJ had parents! She was raised by feral dogs.
That's where she got all of her social skills.
Can't you tell?
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:02PM
Operative word in your comment: "had".
Those approval ratings were polled just before she was nominated
to the Republican VP candidate post, not long after she had
authorized an additional $1,200.00 "resource rebate" be taken
from the Alaska Permanent Fund after residents had already gotten
their PFDividend. This was done despite revenues from oil
production already decreasing (thus, less available to put into
the Permanent Fund as investment).
Who WOULDN'T be popular after doing something like that, even if
the economy meant that the next year's PFD (paid out in 2009
several months after Palin quit) would be far, far less?
Randy| 1.11.10 @ 10:58PM
KarenJ has all the social skills of the lying feral dog (B!tch)
she is.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:14AM
"Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters
are left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing
now "to progress the people of Alaska". "
Huh?
Is that why Palin had the highest approval ratings of ANY sitting
Governor? >80% ?
Here's a tip. ma'am. When you lie, at the frequency you do, no
one believes anything else you have to say, no matter how sincere
or truthful you are. My kids learned that when they were about 2
or 3 years old.
Did you have parents?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 4:58PM
facts, where are your links? Idiot! At least make a statement and
back it with some kind of article from a newspaper or something.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:28PM
Taking criticism from conservatives for not going to CPAC will
actually strengthen her with independents. It's the same
storyline she used to get elected in Alaska: If the people think
your side is dirty, you have to start a big public fight and make
a show of cleaning house. Then the public will believe the dirt
has been dealt with. Right now, she's making CPAC into the dirt,
and I wonder if it will survive Hurricane Sarah. (It doesn't
matter to me either way.)
Mae, I'm tired of hearing AK Republicans bi*ching about Palin.
She didn't play your game, boo frickin hoo. The AK GOP was as
crooked as it gets. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:00PM
Right on!
DaveP.| 1.8.10 @ 12:27PM
Quilyer and his ilk gave us President Obama and the
Soon-To-Be-Permanent Democratic Majority.
When he speaks (well, whines, actually) bear that in mind.
Kitty| 1.8.10 @ 12:30PM
Memo to Hillyer: Get Over Yourself
GO SARAH!
...
astonerii| 1.8.10 @ 12:41PM
Keene explained it to YOUR satisfaction. Well then, obviously
everyone should have your exacting standards of satisfaction with
people's excuses and explanation for things and get over
themselves. In fact, I hereby announce that you can be my God and
any time you come to some conclusion on a topic you can just send
me a mental note of what I now believe in. Who needs personal
responsibility, who needs to keep a critical eye on things when
we have you and your infinite wisdom and ability to answer all
our tough questions.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 12:49PM
Sarah Palin is all about $$$. That said: The CPAC does NOT pay
its speakers - neither a fee, nor a first class airline ticket
for 3(or is it 4?) people, and also not for a $700/night hotel
room.
So, THERE you have the real reason $arah Pal$n will not show up.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:22PM
Lies.
I wonder if this person gets paid for a living.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:26PM
Does Sarah Palin get paid for a living?
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 8:31PM
Do you get paid Jack or are you still living in your step-mom's
basement?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:49PM
Good one.
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 9:20PM
Didn't answer my question, Romneybot.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:30PM
Been to Alaska Margie? Even better, been to Wasilla Alaska and
viewed the nature of Palin's tin cup?
My gosh you have no idea. Palin is about $$$$ in her purse.
Alaskans are used to her creating a fight and her hand holding a
tin cup.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 4:58PM
Go back under your rock, mae; your lies and Palin Derangement
Syndrome are not welcome here.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:20PM
May Sarah Palin write as many more books as she possibly can,
become the next President of the U.S., or not. Whatever she does
may she blessed both with good health, prosperity in abundance
and a long life!
Like that, Mae? No?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
Sarah Palin is speaking at the Southern Republican Leadership
Conference in April in New Orleans for no fee.
Sarah Palin speaks at Righ to Life groups for no fees.
Sarah spoke at College of the Ozarks for no fee.
Sarah Palin's jacket was auction off for $57,000 for Charity.
Dinner with Sarah was auction off for $63,000 for charity.
$10,000 for Ft. Hood.
How much does Mitt, Huck, and Newt get for paid speeches. I never
hear anything about that.
Huck was paid to give a speech at a fundrasing event for a
candidate and event ended in the red.
I don't remember a bomb going off for that.
Sarah Palin is still paying off her $500,000 debt for doing
nothing wrong. Such yesterday another law suit against Sarah
Palin was dismissed from a Federal court. No merit. How much did
that cost her for doing nothing wrong. There are still reminding
law suits and complaints that have been filed against her for
doing nothing wrong. How much are they going to cost her?
Sarah Palin has a contract with a Washington firm that sets up
most of her speeches. Anybody that hires her agrees to the
contract.
But the problem is everybodyelso is allowed to get paid for
speeches and set their terms but Sarah Palin.
Listen to you nutty people.
billgibbs43| 1.8.10 @ 7:29PM
Well Done!!
I can hear the lefties jaws dropping
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:50PM
I'll have to make a note of those no-fee speeches for when my
fellow "libtards" say she doesn't speak without getting paid.
Although I think she would have had a hard time collecting a fee
from that Right to Life speech in Indiana last year -- she was
still Governor, there are Alaska laws against getting personal
fees for service while in office, and she left for the speech
right in the middle of some rather important state legislative
business that really required her presence.
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 8:32PM
More lies from the Palin stalker, KarenJ.
Derek Leaberry| 1.8.10 @ 12:50PM
Keene's a man for sale, a master lobbyist, a conservative symbol
about what's corrupt about the American ruling class. He's been
for sale at least since he supported George Bush over Ronald
Reagan in 1980 even after being told by Bush that conservatives
need not apply for jobs in a Bush Administration. Keene is also
the sort of guy who won't let Pat Buchanan through the front door
at CPAC but is more than willing to grovel before
anti-conservative John McCain in 2008. Conservatives should turn
their backs on CPAC and DC operatives, almost all are in it for
the money. Think Abramoff.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 12:51PM
Ms. Palin is one of the best things to happen to the Conservative
movement in my lifetime. She just doesn't happen to be a country
club Republican 'conservative'. She's not one of the 'old boys'.
Good for her !
I hope the vision-challenged author of this pathetic screed eats
his words in 2012 . I'm pretty sure he will.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:34PM
No, she's Viagra to the Conservative movement -- or she was,
until those nasty ol' papparazzi pictures of her without makeup,
fake hair, or spandex pantihose showed up on the Internet.
Why no pic, Karen--big and fat and living in a double-wide??
I'd bet the farm it's your boyfriend who needs the viagra.
PMain| 1.8.10 @ 12:52PM
Sarah Palin followed the "established" methodology in the last
Presidential Campaign, much like the last 2 Republican lead
Congresses... how'd that work out?
The political landscape has changed & is still changing &
the Republican establishment, including CPAC, is still following
the time-used methods… which is fine, but their successes have
depended greatly upon Democratic miscues or Reagan's charisma
& are not time-proven by themselves.
The special elections in NY & now Mass have shown that the
GOP elites are too slow to act & that the real political
change is coming from the outside of the Party. You'll have to
forgive Palin for reading the political leaves & actually
responding to base's desires vs. ruffling the establishment’s
feathers or following the prescribed path.
Reagan built a base by traveling the country, paid by GE no less,
giving speeches & drawing support over time. It’s called
building a base, not making decisions for the base or assuming
support thereof, which the GOP, CPAC, etc. have built careers
upon.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:29PM
Sarah is getting together with Joseph Farah (World Net Daily) and
they are working with the Tea Party Nation. She's isn't going
away like the Left would have you believe.
No one wants her to go away. I just want a better conservative
candidate--someone who can win.
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:30PM
she is BY FAR the best candidate
1.starpower
2.Charisma
3Crowds
4.values
5.Speechs
6. she can raise huge money
7. she does really well in debates (watch her 2006
deabates)
8.Neutralizes identity politics from obama.
9. good looking
10.liberals hate her.
don't let the media fool you. She is the best choice by a mile.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
I have to admit, I burst out laughing when I saw your idea of
"best candidate".
1. Starpower -- let's substitute Sandra Bullock instead. She's a
REAL star, and looks great all the time. Don't forget, O'Sarah
looks really awful without her makeup, hairpieces, and spandex
nylons.
2. Charisma. I'd prefer someone who projected an honest
personality ALL THE TIME, instead of turning the charisma on and
off, depending on who's in front of her. O'Sarah has been a b!tch
on wheels to a lot of people who've disagreed with her.
3. Crowds. O RLY? Have you SEEN the crowds that have flocked to
her lately? Mostly old, flabby, gray-haired, grungy, given to
slogans on t-shirts, inarticulate or ignorant when asked why they
like O'Sarah or what she stands for, then whiny and defensive
when their ignorance is revealed.
4. Values. Case in point = humiliating her promiscuous pregnant
daughter in front of the voting public to "prove" rumors about
said daughter were untrue -- instead of simply releasing a copy
of her own medical records. Case in point = taking youngest
daughter out of school for 2 months in late 2008, then for 4
months in late 2009 -- why? Babysitter for the infant?
Lady-in-waiting to her own mother? We-don't-need-no-eddication?
Case in point = widening rift between the mother and the father
of her grandson Tripp by vilifying the 19 year old boy in state
of AK press releases, in People magazine, to Fox "news", on her
Facebook page, and now, allowing her "fans" on her Facebook page
to promote a campaign to harass state of AK justices charged with
the custody case of the grandson's parents.
5. Speeches. When she's written them herself, they're rambling,
inarticulate, repetitive, nearly not understandable except to a
very small segment of American society -- her fans, who claim to
understand every word she says. If the speeches are
understandable by most standards, she didn't write them. 'Nuf
said.
6. Huge money. Oh, my. As a personal fortune to a person who's
never really had much money, maybe so (although the Palins had a
net worth of about $2M before she quit). But as a many-millions
fundraiser -- not much. And I doubt she's capable of churning out
another book -- based on what? She's written about EVERYTHING in
her life up to now.
7. Debates. Oh, my "she does really well"? She doesn't debate AT
ALL. She talks about what she wants to talk about, which is 1)
her list of talking points, and 2) never the topic the moderator
brings up, and what everyone else is talking about. There are
videos of those gubernatorial debates and the one with Biden that
prove that. She was actually an inept "debater".
8. Neutralizes identity politics. O'Sarah ISN'T the face of
"identity politics"? Coulda fooled me.
9. Good looking. Yeah, I'm going to vote for the candidate that
looks the best. Show my intelligence, yeah! OMG...
10. Liberals hate her. NO, a thousand times NO! Independents,
moderates, and progressive/liberals don't HATE O'Sarah. We
ridicule her for her ignorance, her screechy voice, her pandering
to the worst hatemongers (Eddie Burke, come on down), we point
out her thousands upon thousands of lies with fact-checking to
debunk every single one, we are still looking at that strange
story she told (several different versions) about the birth of
the Down Syndrome baby, and in fact, all of her pregnancies
(seems there were two more no one knew about until she wrote
about them in her book), and we feel sorrow for her children, who
have been her political/celebrity props and constant attendants
instead of being able to lead normal lives like the children of
most other politicians and celebrities.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Looks like Karen chewed on some sour grapes there, today, hmm?
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 6:05PM
Actually, Margie, old Karen is most likely chewing some nasty old
tobacky or her cud. Maybe both!
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:25PM
Maybe it's LibRead! :^) You never can tell.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:03PM
What a venomous hateful viper of a woman you are KarenJ. Go back
to the sewer with the rest of the rats, and take your diseased
thoughts with you.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 6:06PM
I second that!
Colorado| 1.8.10 @ 7:39PM
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:46PM
The real truth is that Sarah Palin is going to be the next
President of the United States!!
Go Sarah!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:51PM
Palin supporters need to focus. You can proclaim her candidacy
all you want to, but you need to work with other conservatives,
not alienate them.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:23PM
Jack, you're not a Conservative, stop lying.
Sarah is our candidate--not RINO Romney.
FlaminMoe| 1.8.10 @ 1:56PM
Oh, *that* explains her sudden jump onto the birther bandwagon.
That association can only end well for the Tea Party - and the
GOP.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:16PM
So it's okay to associate with Birchers but not Birthers. Glad we
got that down.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 12:53PM
Thank you for defending the true values of conservatism. Sarah
Palin adheres to the values of Sarah Palin. Looking forward to
hearing Steve Schmidt on 60 Minutes on Sunday.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:54PM
You're kidding, right?
The man who masterminded that masterful McCain mash-up last year?
Have fun with that!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:21PM
No. I'm not kidding. By the way, SarahPAC donated to John McCain.
I am not a McCain supporter, but Sarah Palin is.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:07PM
Jack, I am NOT a McCain supporter. He needs to go along with the
rest of the RINO's however, Sarah does believe in honoring
commitments. She is his friend and will back him just as he
backed her when he choose her for VP. Sarah Palin is honorable
and I would be disappointed if she did not support McCain and I
do hope that giving money to his campaign is the only support
that she gives him.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:09PM
Schmidt is a loser and he's been thoroughly discredited. Good
luck with your stupid ad for 60 minutes, moron.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:04PM
Not with us.
We're delighted to finally have someone in the McCain campaign
break ranks and tell it like it is.
Perhaps Meghan McCain will have more to say in her book.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:35PM
Of course loser RINOS like you love another loser RINO. No
surprise there, loser.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:11AM
Perhaps the brilliant Megaton McCain will have more pictures of
her prodigious cleavage in her book, since it is the only asset
she really has to cash in on. At least you two are on the same
level, Karen "the Hatemoger"J.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:49PM
Megaton McCain--hadn't heard that one. lol
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:15PM
If the McCain Senate campaign gets rough and he asks her to come,
she will be there and work her magic for him. She adores John
McCain and will do anything for him, even if she disagrees
politically.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:28PM
You wouldn't just happen to be making that up, now would you? Ya
know, like a little creativity or somethin.?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:37PM
I think he's right, Margie; Sarah's very loyal. :(
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 12:54PM
I'm not sure I agree with comments regarding Sarah Palin and JBS:
she was a JBS fan during her tenure as Mayor. There are also
multiple photos showing her with JBS materials. This was during
the time her husband was a member of the AIP. Sarah Palin was an
outspoken supporter of the AIP as well; in fact, she spoke at
their conventions. There is some thought that she was also a
member of the AIP, and at her recent Wasilla booksigning, she
allowed JBS volunteers onsite to distribute literature. Which if
true, just places her even further away from mainstream Repub
antics. It's all well and good if you want to take sides on the
JBS, but don't pick and choose among Sarah Palin's past
associations to suit your arguments.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
I challenge you to provide any evidence at all that Palin was a
member of the AIP. Any at all. "Some thought" doesn't cut it.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:47PM
It's a FACT that Todd Palin was a registered member of the
secessionist Alaska Independence Party from October 1995 until
July 2002, save for a few months in 2000 when he changed his
registration to undeclared.
It's a FACT that Sarah Palin videotape-addressed the 2008 AIP
Convention: "I'm Governor Sarah Palin, and I am delighted to
welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention in
the golden heart city of Fairbanks. Your party plays an important
role in our state's politics... "Good luck on a successful and
inspiring convention. Keep up the good work, and god bless you."
It's a FACT that the AIP's chairwoman, Lynette Clark, in
September 2008 said of Sarah Palin, "I've admired Sarah from the
first time I met her at the 2006 AIP convention. She impressed me
so much. She's Alaskan to the bone; she's a damn good gal.
"As I was listening to her, I thought she sounds like what we've
been saying for years. I thought to myself, 'My God, she sounds
just like Joe Vogler.'" [Joe Vogler was the founder of the
Alaskan Independence Party]
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:55PM
And those facts prove that Palin attracts more than the
Republican base.
That's your point, right?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 12:54PM, Really not much to say to your statement
other than you are a flat out liar. I was at the Wasilla
book-signing and no one was handing out flyers except for a
couple of Tea-party persons.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:47PM, I see that you say "it's a fact" and
"it's a fact' but what I don't see are your links to prove your
facts. Almost all (87%) of Alaskans considered Sarah to be the
best thing to ever happen to Alaska. We are diverse up here and
about the only ones who don't like her are the paid trolls (by
soros org.) Are you one of them? You Betcha!
So WH, would it be a bad thing if the facts above were true? What
is so scandalous about the AIP? It is ideologically similar to
the Constitution Party. Is the CP scandalous? The AIP once
elected a Gov. of the state of Alaska.
Palin’s willingness to address the AIP and Alaska Libertarian
Party speaks well of her. It was her capitulation to the
cookie-cutter neo-conservatism of the McCain campaign that was
disappointing.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:03PM
You've heard of Google, haven't you? It's a search engine.
What you do is, type in the search box "Sarah Palin AIP
convention speech" and see what comes up. And/or type in "Todd
Palin AIP" and see what comes up.
When more than a dozen stories from both conservative and
progressive sites document the same information, I'd call that
"fact".
Try doing a little research yourself. Do some of the "heavy
lifting" you're demanding of others.
BTW, that 87% you're talking about (as you say, "considerED", not
"still consider") dates back to mere weeks before O'Sarah was
tagged by John McCain to be his VP choice. What happened then?
Yeah, she authorized an additional $1,200 payout from the Alaska
Permanent Fund Dividend surplus to each and every Alaska resident
-- that'd make ANYBODY popular for a while. Her approval ratings
have plummeted faster than any other politician except George
Bush ever since then.
No, I'm not paid to type all this. Except by Social Security,
that is. I got all the time in the world to spend on blogs like
this...
What about you? You're a Wasilla resident. Do YOU work? At what?
Why are you on this blog at 1:30 Alaska time on Friday afternoon?
Who's paying YOU to comment on blogs?
---------------
As for you calling Laura a liar, she wasn't far off in her
assessment of the Wasilla booksigning. Yes, there were the local
teabagger organization (calling themselves the "Conservative
Patriots") "everywhere" at the booksigning, as one attendee said.
But there was one guy who might be worse than a "JBS volunteer"
handing out brochures at the Wasilla booksigning. He was a
LaRouche disciple with some very offensive material.
You know that Lyndon LaRouche has been a Marxist, a Trotskyite,
and a neo-Nazi, don't you? (interesting note: earlier this year
LaRouche said he supported a single-payer health care plan)
I just don't understand why this guy wasn't hustled out like the
Alaska bloggers on Todd Palin's list were -- unless he was there
on the Palins' approval.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:12PM
Karen and Laura are the same nasty troll. Ignore the loser(s).
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:37PM
Nope, wrong again!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:01PM
Too much time on your hands. Won't matter; The more you morons
hate on Sarah, the more we love her. GO PALIN!!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:07PM
We're not trying to change YOUR minds.
We're here balancing all those interesting myths that have
evolved about Sarah Palin with what the facts are about her. One
thing for sure -- her book should be re-assigned to the "comedy"
or "fiction" section of the bookstore/library.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:39PM
You're making Sarah stronger, fool. Keep it up.
The uglier you Romneybots are the more beautiful Sarah looks.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:56PM
It's not a beauty pageant, dear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:25PM
Good thing because Queen Romney would probably want to be in it!
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
I beg your pardon, but I am not a liar. There were published
photos of the bearded man handing out literature with President
Obama caricatured as Hitler. From the ADN article, per James
Hastings, "A man distributing brochures about national health
care legislation and displaying pictures of President Barack
Obama sporting a Hitler mustache was asked to put the brochures
away, Hastings said." Please, try very very hard to tell the
truth yourself. The actual truth, not just reporting reality as
you see it.
Tennessee| 1.8.10 @ 10:41PM
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM - "I beg your pardon, but I am not a liar.
There were published photos of the bearded man handing out
literature with President Obama caricatured as Hitler. "
There was one other successful Diva + Woman of the People that I
can think of --- Evita Peron.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:31PM
Sarah's no despicable Evita. But she is certainly closer to a
Margaret Thatcher!
Go Sarah!
mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:43PM
You are aware that Palin figured out who Thatcher was about 3
days post McCain's selection of her as his VP. You do know that
right?
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
You do know you are an ignorant lying sack of ****, right?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:49PM
Well, that's a lot faster than the amount of time it took Palin
to figure out what the VP really does...
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:56PM
Wow! Lots of catty, jealous females here today.
And what have you done with your lives lately?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:23PM
Lots of gender-based disparity here today.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:08PM
Ignore Karen, she's a Palin hater. Karen's a fat girl who doesn't
get out much.
Homely, unbathed liberal women like Karen resent beautiful,
successful, slender conservative women like Sarah. Sad but true.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
And you're Brad Pitt in disguise, I suppose?
Nah, tell me you look more like George Clooney!
I've been on message boards and blogs for the past 10 years (and
I'm happy to have finally reached Medicare age! Whoopee! I don't
have to worry about MY health care insurance any more!!!) and
I've NEVER ever seen a blogger guy who's finally put up a picture
of his real self who turns out to be a real looker.
Most of the guy bloggers are slovenly, overweight, wear flannel
plaid shirts over t-shirts with printed slogans on them that they
got free at some place handing them out, nearly always are
wearing a ball cap and if someone can get them to doff the cap,
they're nearly bald underneath.
Is that you, Holmby?
Yes, I'm overweight -- as are many 65 year old women. I'm still
quite attractive because I still have all my own teeth, my skin
is less lined than Sarah Palin's WITHOUT ANY cosmetic enhancement
like she underwent this last August (for you women out there,
tell your daughters to start moisturizing their skin at puberty,
and NEVER STOP -- and don't smoke), and my hair is still natural
color light brown with only about 30 gray hairs.
You know by now Sarah Palin isn't attractive under all that
makeup and fake hair and stuff. Don't you?
What an admirable passtime for an overweight 65 year old woman to
be running down the looks of another woman with such catty
vindictiveness.
I bet you are a real sweetheart in person, so much nicer than
that devil diva Sarah Palin! Hahahaha
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:03PM
Love it!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:11PM
Me, to0. For once, Brian72 is right.
I'm not ashamed about being overweight. It comes with the
territory. Yeah, I'm a sweetheart.
And yes, O'Sarah is a diva, but I really suspect she's much worse
than "that devil". I've been concerned about what dark force is
within her ever since that first stump speech.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:21AM
Dear KarenJ, you poor misguided sicko.
If anyone is wrestling with dark forces from within, it is you
and your rather disturbing obsession to trash, smear and slander
a decent woman whom you clearly hate on a personal level,
probably because she has everything that you never, ever will.
That would be professional success, personal happiness and
contentment,the respect and admiration of millions of
Americans.
All you've got is your black hole of hatred in your head, and
your gubmint check. Enjoy it, it is all you ever will have.
Hahahahahaha!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:17PM
KarenJ says: "Yes, I'm overweight "
Like we didn't know that.
LOL
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:42PM
Overweight? Karen's thighs erupt into flames when she tries to
walk. It's that friction, baby!
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:28AM
KarenJ: "..tell your daughters to start moisturizing their skin
at puberty, and NEVER STOP"
Yes, but Karen you don't have to do it continuously and with such
speed & passion.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 9:53PM
EW! Funny, though--you made me laugh. What a disgusting woman--by
her own admission.
So glad I never have to know this putrid person.
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:09PM
That actually WAS funny. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply skin other
than on one's FACE. But I guess that says a lot about the one(s)
who read what I wrote.
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:05PM
Yeah, sure, Karen. You're lonely and bored--you've driven off
everybody who ever care about you, so of course you meant 'more'
than just facial skin. We get it.
You're a bitter, fat old loser. Who would love you?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:20PM
KarenJ, you should listen to the O'biden/Palin debate and then
read the Constitution. Sarah knows what the VP job entails as she
quoted it word for word from the constitution. Idiot!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:25PM
Oh, please!
Sarah Palin gave an interview to Larry Kudlow Aug 1, 2008 in
which she said, “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you,
I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me
what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"
(Palin also said she would not accept the VP role [or, go "to
that den of vipers in Washington," as the interviewer put it] in
an appearance in June [2008] with CNN's Glenn Beck --
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....-pres.html
)
She and then-Senator Biden "debated" (although Palin's technique
could hardly be called debating) on October 2, 2008.
She had MORE THAN TWO MONTHS to bone up on what the VP does! If
she was able to quote it from the Constitution, after studying up
for 2 months, good for her!
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:30AM
You moron, you really don't understand politics very well do you?
Obama said in 2006 he could not run for President because he
wasn't ready yet. Then he turned around and ran for President
anyway. He's a liar.
Hillary Clinton said during her Senate re-election campaign in
2006 several times she had no intention of abandoning the people
of New York State to spend her entire second Senate term running
for President. Of course, she knew all along that is exactly what
she intended to do, and that is exactly what she did. Liar.
That Larry Kudlow interview, which I have seen a few times, was a
clear message to McCain and his people that if she were to be
picked as the VP nominee, she would not be comfortable with a
do-nothing ceremonial position, but would want some clear goals
to work toward in that position, since every one knows that what
the VP does every day is exactly what the President asks of them.
What would that be in this case? That is all she was doing. Of
course, you know that and are a liar, or you are just too dumb to
get the subtleties of political positioning.
As far as "boning up on what the VP does", in the debate with
Biden it was Biden who referenced the wrong part of the
Constitution when asked about the duties of the VP, and Sarah got
it right.
Not that you give a crap about the actual facts.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:52PM
hey mae~~what I figure is that you probably worship at the altar
of Evita. Am I right sweetie? Sure got your knickers in a twist
today, hmm?
Mae, your idol Obama is really putting people back to work, isn't
he? Oh wait....
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 1:01PM
This site shows a picture of Sarah as mayor of Wasilla, having
the JBS letter on her desk. It was taken during the same time
that her husband was a member of of the AIP (which she tried to
deny during the '08 campaign):
I had some remarks already written up -- this is as good a place
to add them:
Sarah Palin consented to having a picture taken of her apparently
reading a John Birch Society magazine back in 1995 when she was a
Wasilla City Council member (one year before she was elected
mayor).
The problem with what the right wing bloggers are saying to
defend Sarah Palin's choice of reading material, is that Sarah
Palin has ALWAYS controlled very tightly what her public image is
-- at least until her hairdresser blurted out that she was losing
hair last June, and Palin had another series of plastic surgery
procedures last August, and those awful December Hawaii vacation
pictures surfaced -- and if she didn't WANT to be connected in
any way to the John Birch Society, she would never have let that
picture see the light of day.
As it is, apparently that picture held a place of honor in the
Palin or the Heath household, because it was released to the
media in September 2008 by "Sarah Palin's family".
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:10PM
Won't work trolls. It's too late. You fools won't stand in
Sarah's way--she's on her way to the top.
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
there is nothing in that picture. lol you liberals are so stupid
The convention was held in her home town, and they had actually
elected a Governor and a former
ally on their own, Also, anyone who takes their Trig Truther blog
from a Desperate Housewives character, just beyond satire
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:13PM
What?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:02PM
It's INTENDED as satire, chum.
The thrust of the satire is to point out that Sarah Palin was not
the biological mother of Trig. We think, however, that she DID
adopt him, which makes her technically his mother.
The focus is on HER, not poor little Trig.
Except -- over this past fall -- so called "Trig Truther"
bloggers began to worry about his care and therapy, especially
during that book tour when he was paraded around barely clothed,
often without shoes or socks, no head covering, in 40 degree
weather or snow, or at 11 PM at night, during the height of the
H1N1 flu season -- a not-yet-2-years-old toddler with the fragile
health of the typical Down Syndrome child.
With a known heart condition, he's also spent most of his 2 years
of life flying at altitude from place to place, which places a
considerable strain on fragile hearts -- why?
Why was he not at home in Wasilla the whole time, being cared for
by his nanny and the therapists who should have been working with
him EVERY DAY?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Loser, how much are you being paid for your Palin Derangement
Syndrome?
Sue| 1.8.10 @ 5:30PM
lol wow your one fu*ked up liberal whore.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:28PM
Tsk. Such foul-mouthed ranting -- from a "boy named Sue"?
(thanks, Johnny Cash)
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:45PM
Umbrage from the self-righteous,'teabagger' foul mouth herself.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:11PM
You are a laughable piece of work with this.
Soooo concerned about this little boy with special needs that you
spend your whole worthless pitiful life slandering his parentage
and siblings.
You are sick. Truly sick. I hope you and Andy Sullivan wind up as
room mates at the mental institution one day.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:37PM
That's the remarkable thing about Sarah Palin fans. They never
EVER display any concern or curiosity about any of Palin's
children except when it might reflect on her image.
I'll bet the majority of Sarah Palin fans never even HEARD of the
term "special needs" until little Trig was carried around under
those bright, hot lights of the RNC. The term sure is getting a
work out now.
Did you hear about the resounding silence outside the state
courthouse in Alaska where the "Barracuda Brigade" demonstration
against the Bristol vs. Levi custody judges had nada, zip, zero
in attendance? It was even less successful than the demonstration
against Dave Letterman, when 35 people showed, 20 of them from
the media.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:46PM
Scary stalker. Too much time on your hands, troll.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:23PM
KarenJ: "so called "Trig Truther" bloggers began to worry about
his care and therapy, especially during that book tour when he
was paraded around barely clothed, often without shoes or socks,
no head covering, in 40 degree weather or snow, or at 11 PM at
night, during the height of the H1N1 flu season -- a
not-yet-2-years-old toddler with the fragile health of the
typical Down Syndrome child."
Good point. They should have sucked the little b__tard's brains
out before he had a chance to get sick.
Dean| 1.9.10 @ 2:31AM
Yeah sure. Liberals never met an abortion they didn't love. Sick
monsters.
The American Conservative Union asked FedEx for a check for $2
million to $3 million in return for the group’s support in a
bitter legislative dispute, then the group’s chairman flipped and
sided with UPS after FedEx refused to pay.
For the $2 million plus, ACU offered a range of services that
included: “Producing op-eds and articles written by ACU’s
Chairman David Keene and/or other members of the ACU’s board of
directors. (Note that Mr. Keene writes a weekly column that
appears in The Hill.)” [snip]
---------------------------------------
The real proof:
Here are 3 VERY interesting videos of John Ziegler interviewing
Keene at CPAC. Watch for yourself to understand why a candidate
may want to distance themselves from this organization as it now
exists.
If you don't watch the videos, I don't think you can
intelligently discuss the matter at hand. Just my opinion of
course.
Unfortunately, no one knows for sure why Palin does anything
(e.g. why did she really quit her job?). Why are we always having
to come up with rationales and suppositions for her decisions? I
want a candidate who clearly fights for conservative values.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 1:57PM
I agree. I have also wondered why. I suspect it has something to
do with the fact that Mrs. Palin does not come forward herself to
explain those decisions or expand on her comments. She does not
make use of the MSM as a traditional candidate or political
person might, as a platform to articulate and promote their
positions and values. Whatever your feelings about Sunday morning
talk shows, it's an arena where many aspiring political folks
have the opportunity to talk about themselves. You cannot promote
your agenda through dubious avenues like Facebook and Twitter,
for heaven's sake, and expect the electorate to accept that as
all you have to say. I reject the reasoning that Mrs. Palin will
not be interviewed because the MSM is 'out to get her'; I often
wonder if she understands that if she becomes a viable candidate,
she WILL have to do interviews, with many different outlets, and
will be asked questions she will have to answer. As someone
running for public office, she should expect no less, and
certainly receive no special treatment.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:00PM
Wow, just wow.
Maybe it's because you people don't watch, read, or listen to
anything from Palin herself.
All your sources are secondhand.
Did you listen to her resignation speeches on 7/2 and 7/26?
Did you read her book?
Did you listen to any of her dozens of interviews during the
campaign? Yes, I said during the campaign? Did you know that in
the last 2 weeks, she did more interviews than any of the other
candidates?
Try primary sources?
And try not doubting everything the primary source says...
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:19PM
Yes, I have read and listened to her. I have no idea why Sarah
Palin quit her job. Please explain it to me. Thanks.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:24PM
Jack, come on. This has been covered over and over again. Let me
ask you, if you had a job where something you did in every given
week would prompt a formal ethics investigation on a totally
frivolous charge, to which you had to pay for your own legal
defense even though you knew you would be exonerated, and you
knew it wasn't going to stop, and you knew you would be
bankrupted by the legal fees, and you had no time to actually do
your job... would you stay in that job?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:43PM
Trouble is, that's what Sarah Palin SAID the problems were -- and
so many of the statements she's made even as far back as her
mayoral days in Wasilla have been shown to be not entirely
truthful -- it's hard to take what she said about her 2-1/2 years
as governor at face value.
Even the amount she said for the state of Alaska's expenses for
her ethics complaints investigations was so hyperinflated that it
was fact-checked, and found to be grossly wrong, in that many
fees were counted twice and three times over, and that some fees
that would have been paid anyway -- as normal day to day business
-- were added in the ethics complaint investigation fees.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:47PM
More lies from the Palin stalker.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:32AM
KarenJ sez: "so many of the statements she's made even as far
back as her mayoral days in Wasilla have been shown to be not
entirely truthful -- it's hard to take what she said about her
2-1/2 years as governor at face value. "
So 87% of the Alaska voters were ignorant fools?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:27PM
You do realize, don't you, that only 114,697 citizens of Alaska
actually voted for Sarah Palin for governor, don't you? Out of a
total 521,000 eligible Alaskan voters?
Your 87% approval rating (right after the $1,200 PFD unexpected
additional rebate she authorized) amounts to 99,786 Alaskans...
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:09PM
No one more deserving of everything bad than you, moron. You will
get yours. And it won't be good.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 4:48PM
I bet you also think her FaceBook posts are of her own...
THINK AGAIN! Her book was written by a ghost writer, and she has
SEVERAL ghostwriters on her FaceBook.
Proof?
A) listen to her when she speaks unscripted. Totally
unintelligible word salad.
B) The style of writing changes often, and certain writers will
put tons and tons of references at the end of their post - $arah
has no idea what those references are there for (as shown in her
book of lies, where she could not even get herself to put an
itinerary/reference/source list)
C) When Hannity asked her in his recent interview about a recent
post on her FB, she totally got the deer-in-headlight look, and
could not answer, because she did not know what was in that
particular post.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
A lot of these trolls are Myth Romneybots. I think Romney is a
snake in the grass; after all, "Myth" is the republican insider
favorite.
Sarah will be our party's standard-bearer in 2012--just wait and
see. Romney is a RINO responsible for Mass. RomneyCare--no
thanks.
Romney is just a Republican Obama.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
A) Nobody speaks like they write. Nobody.
B) The style of writing changes depending on her purpose. When
she's saying Happy Birthday to Margaret Thatcher or wishing her
supporters a Merry Christmas, she writes differently than when
she is developing a scholarly argument against the writings of
Zeke Emanual.
C) The recent interview with Hannity was on the radio. Where do
you see the way she looked?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:33PM
Jack sez:
Unfortunately, no one knows for sure why Palin does anything"
So, Hope n' Change (tm) has made you so poor that you can't
afford a book written by the next President of the United States?
How sad.
Just go back to sleep. We'll wake you when it's all over.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:24AM
I listened to her resignation speech last July. Sorry--if she
can't explain it in English on the day she quits, she loses. A
serious mature candidate is always able to communicate.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:29AM
Give it up Romneybot. Your boy's a RINO loser--he'll never get
elected.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 2:38PM
"Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:24AM
I listened to her resignation speech last July. Sorry--if she
can't explain it in English on the day she quits, she loses. A
serious mature candidate is always able to communicate. "
Maybe she needed a teleprompter.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:06PM
It's hard enough to listen to Sarah Palin screech through a radio
or television interview (most recently, Sean Hannity, when she
babbled over her old worn-out debunked "Lie of the Year" talking
points), but it's nearly unbearable to listen through a John
Ziegler commentary. Every fifth word from that man is "I", "my",
"me" or "mine". Did he mention his Palin documentary again?
(I DIDN'T watch the video)
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:27PM
"(I DIDN'T watch the video) "
That's OK by me.
LOL!!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:17PM
Karen's a "B." She hates Palin and I think she works for Romney.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:10PM
You're batting .000 so far, Holmby.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:29PM
Watch those thunder thighs when you walk, girl! Friction's a
killer!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:17PM
You are right on target!
Cronopio| 1.8.10 @ 1:34PM
It's simple...CPAC isn't paying her. If you think she'll show up
anywhere without a paycheck, you haven't been paying attention.
That is just an ignorant comment to make. She has spoken at
several charity events before and after being the Governor of
Alaska.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:17PM
I'm not interested in the "before" events -- I know she spoke at
that "Right to Life" event in Indiana right in the middle of the
Alaska legislative session, which only lasts 60 days.
But what about "after" she quit "being the Governor"? She
disappeared right after the Quit Speech July 26 for six weeks,
ostensibly to go down to San Diego and write her book (where the
uncredited Lynn Vincent lives) but it's known that Palin had
plastic surgery while she was in California, and need that time
out of the public eye to heal up (she actually still had problems
with healing even during the book tour -- an abscess near her
right ear).
She flew to Hong Kong for a speech Sept 23rd, and every speech
since then has had a price tag. She's had a lot of publicity
about FUTURE so-called charity functions, but none have come to
pass, including that meal with the eBay winner or Laura
Ingraham's charity or the Canadian children's charity.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:32PM
I smell ...... liberal fear.
Smells like ... 2012
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:37PM
Who cares about liberal fear? Let's grow up and get a real
conservative with some knowledge, a good governing résumé, &
momentum. Taunting makes all conservatives look bad. It's hurting
the conservative brand & identity. Conservative is not a bad
word!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:19PM
Go away, Jack! Don't you Palin haters get it by now?
The more you attack her the more we support her.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:50PM
Holmby, I really don't care what you do. I care about
conservatism and leadership.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:49PM
Sure, RINO Jack; you wouldn't know Conservatism if it bit you on
the backside.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:58PM
How does your comment progress the conservative cause?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:31PM
How does your BS progress Romney's candidacy?
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:21AM
You can't answer a question, huh? Too tough for you to define how
your current actions are helping the conservative cause?
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:26AM
Hush, clown. Romney's a RINO loser. Everyone knows it, too.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:16PM
Plastic Surgery? Really?
That is the new theme with you whacko lunatics?
Her natural beauty just drives you nuts doesn't it?
Let's see some pictures of you darling, so we may compare who
needs the artificial face? Hahahaha
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:06PM
Sarah's beauty radiates from within--that's why libs hate her.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:13PM
Compare some of her 2008 pictures face-forward with some of the
pictures from September 2009 and thereafter.
She's lost that "salmon jaw" she was famous for (that's why I
think she suffered an abscess near her right ear most of the book
tour). Her eyebrows are different (Botox?), and her chin is quite
a bit different, more pointed, less rounded.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:36PM
You must be the ugliest porker around. You're truly pathetic and
I pity you.
Palin doesn't even know you're alive, that you even exist, and
you are consumed by hatred for her.
Your obsession with her is sick, frightening, actually. You need
professional help.
When she becomes President, you should be on the Secret Service
threat list.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:20AM
More ad hominem ugliness.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:25AM
Look in the mirror for ugliness, troll.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 7:31PM
Karen, What is wrong with plastic surgery?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:51PM
Karen's just pi$$ed off because all of the plastic surgery in the
world couldn't help her ugly face.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:59PM
A run for the presidency is not about beauty pageants. Get
serious if you want to sit at the grown-ups table.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:17PM
Then, I wonder why #9 "good looking" is one of the 10 attributes
of the "best candidate" in AKR's list ( @ 1.8.10 @ 3:30PM above)?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:38PM
Look, nitwit, your friend, Karen is the one obsessed with Sarah's
looks.
Both of you should be in the nut house.
Annnie Rhys-Davis| 1.8.10 @ 1:35PM
It is apparently escaping the notice of LOTS of GOP good ole boys
and girls that way down here in voter land folks are fed up with
CPAC.
Checked their donations lately?
Smart move to stay away. What the hell is CPAC thinking including
the Birchers? I don't blame her at all if she is looking at a
future run.
Just taw the video right above this comment. I'm sure this is
reflective of Keene and there is a great deal we don't know. I'm
not going to question Palin's judgement on this one.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:21PM
Are you aware that Palin has been a Bircher for years?
Not to stir up anything here, just adding some hometown facts to
the debate.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:05PM
Not to stir anything up?
Ha. You make me laugh.
Hometown facts.
I'm rolling.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:21PM
Mae, the only thing hometown about you is the size of your
humongous rear end. Troll.
Scott| 1.8.10 @ 1:55PM
Did you criticize Keene when he called Palin: "Whining." " Rock
star." " Not ready for primetime." "More difficult to envision
than it was at the time of the election." He said it in July,
2009, so it's not ancient history. Maybe you called Keene out on
it, and I didn't catch it.
If Keene wasn't tainted with Fed Ex, Arlen Specter and Birchers,
not to mention his affection for her possible competitor, Romney,
and therefore possibly willing to smear her as other Romney
advisers did before the election was over, it might be a bit
easier to question Palin's motives. So what exactly is her
motivation to attend CPAC? To act like they are actually part of
the conservative movement? Wait. They got the Birchers in. That's
pretty conservative, I guess.
Thomas| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
CPAC is largely obsolete. It is becoming politically mainstream
is in fact in business simply to benefit the organizers and the
Republican Party. John McCain was a speaker at last year's CPAC
and there is no one who would ever accuse him of being
conservative.
If I was a conservative running for national office on a
conservative platform, the last place I would appear is at CPAC.
They are largely irrelevent.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
When will folks on the national level understand that Palin likes
to drum up controversy? That is the name of the game she plays.
Look I was born and raised inWasilla and Palin thrives on makin,
takin and creating fights. Everything she has done in her career
is based on makin fights, fighting the good people fight... think
about it, think about her past involvement in events... She makes
a controversy of the simplest questions asked in a roundtable
canidate forum. When there is no need for one and when no other
canidate plays that fightin game. If others do no engage in the
fight she tries to well-up, then they are not mainstream and/or
corrupt.
Palin has a pattern, like most political figures, however unlike
most political figures, she enjoys the fist fights over her.
sue| 1.8.10 @ 3:44PM
just keep F*ucking that chicken.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:06PM
So presumably you've enjoyed living and benefitting from the
fastest growing area in Alaska?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:20PM
So you two enjoy interjecting non sequiturs into the discussion?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
What discussion? You're a friggin' troll; you want chaos not
discussion. Buzz off.
Trugh| 1.8.10 @ 7:28PM
Mae, We are women, hear us roar in numbers too big to ignore.
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.8.10 @ 2:23PM
Hi Mae.
Are you the loonytunes that kept filing nusance suits against
Sarah up there?
Yep
Thought so.
She was kind enough to leave your name out of it.
I ain't.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 2:45PM
Ken, you seem to be a plain-spoken fellow, so understand when I
say that a useful motto for Mrs. Palin's fans should be 'Nothing
to hide? Then nothing to fear.', I mean just that. If you're
operating from a position of truth and integrity, then there is
no need to fear or respond to comments that you don't like. When
fans like yourself respond to comments about or criticisms of
Mrs. Palin with either insults or threats, it doesn't help your
cause or Mrs. Palin's credibility. It's how some folks ended up
with the moniker 'wing-nut'.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:46PM
No.
So are you one of those Palin supporters that uses fists instead
of facts?
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:21PM
I find my fists to be incredibly useful when typing comments on a
blog.
james| 1.8.10 @ 3:45PM
are you high?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:21PM
Are you done adding nothing to the discussion?
Crissy| 1.8.10 @ 5:35PM
Are you done being a C*unt?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:16PM
Please don't. For all you know the libtard piece of crud is a
guy.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:27PM
No, she WASN'T "kind enough". In fact, in that book you
apparently haven't read yet, she indulged herself in several
childish "mean girl" snide insults to the woman who has filed so
many ethics violation complaints against her and who was DOING
HER JOB when she pointed out the inappropriate dress of Palin's
administrative staff.
In fact, there were so many "mean girl" insults to so many
hard-working people in both Alaska politics and national
politics, it's a wonder anyone will have anything to do with
Sarah Palin.
The only outlet for her continued childish tantrums and railing
against authority is the Teabagger movement -- so it's no
surprise she's latched onto them as her new "base".
Good luck with that, O'Sarah. Someone hit the lever about the
time your book was published, and the vortex is about to suck you
down.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:34PM
Hey, hon', you're the poster girl for liberal fear, ain't cha' !!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
Nasty troll and her nasty comments--only teabaggers around her
are you liberal perverts. Must be why you always bring it up.
Liberal Reader| 1.8.10 @ 2:46PM
Mr Hillyer,
You write opinions here that drive me up the wall. But I have to
hand it to you: you've got guts. How many conservatives are
willing to go on record criticizing Palin?
Naturally, you'll be accused of a "vicious attack" against Palin.
(There is no such thing as a plain "attack" on Palin. Only
"vicious attack.")
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
Yeah -- when O'Sarah attacks someone else, it's always with her
pure and good motives, also, too.
Like, does anyone ever ask themselves why she's constantly
comparing herself to President Obama (challenging him to a race,
which she'd LOSE now that we know she has cottage-cheese thighs),
and constantly dissing him by not calling him by his title, and
issuing these one-way, behind-the-Oz-curtain Facebook screeds
every three days -- as if she needs a "national attention fix"
that often?
Her fans certainly don't. But the rest of us, who take everything
she says with a grain of salt because she's proven to stretch the
truth a great deal of the time, are beginning to ask, why does
anyone pay any attention at all to this woman?
She's ignorant, reactionary, narcissistic, childish, defensive,
whiny, untrusting, stubborn, willful -- just ask Steve Schmidt --
or better yet, listen to him on 60 Minutes this upcoming Sunday.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:29PM
You're out of your mind. I hope you've been spayed so you don't
pass your defective genes down.
Screw Schmidt--he's got no credibility with Conservatives. Only a
moron wouldn't know that.
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 5:34PM
Steve Schmidt, noted authority, seer, and wizard.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:18PM
Wizard of what? Losing. The guy's a turd.
Thanks but no thanks.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:54PM
KarenJ sez: "why does anyone pay any attention at all to this
woman? "
Admission that you have a problem is the first step to recovery.
Go to a mirror, look deep into your eyes and repeat 20 times:
"why does anyone pay any attention at all to this woman?"
…If this is true, I suspect she has some handlers who have a visceral reaction to the JBS whispering in her ear. Or maybe she has some personal grudge against David Keene and/or CPAC based on their past differences and various explanations are being floated. (See my comments below the AmSpec article.) While I don’t have much use for the John Birch Society’s conspiratorial orientation, they have long…
It’s the American way. I don’t need no stinking support January 8, 2010 · Leave a Comment So Palin is losing CPAC for hurting their feelings. And she’s losing The American Spectator for hurting CPAC. And the American Spectator is telling her to ‘get over yourself.” Wow. These are not the moves of a politician seeking office; not unless the candidate is…
The truth is CPAC needs Palin a whole lot more than Palin needs
CPAC. Ask yourself this question, what does CPAC offer Palin that
she doesn't already have. A platform to spread her views? She's
already has one. An opportunity to connect to the grassroots? She
practically has the base already sewed up. An opportunity to
compete against the other 2012 hopefuls? There isn't a single
other Republican moving in her orbit. So why is everyone so
shocked that Palin said "thanks but no thanks" to CPAC for
whatever reason she wants?
Palin2012| 1.8.10 @ 3:15PM
How much does Romney pay you?
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:17PM
Palin was Smart not to go. Birchers . nuff said.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:26PM
Has she changed her position on the JBS? When she was mayor of
Wasilla, she was pro-Bircher. Right? Please correct me if I'm
wrong.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
No one cares about your phony questions, dude--you're too late
and your sneaky tactics won't work.
Palin 2012
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:17PM
What is sneaky about my question? The facts are she supported the
JBS in the 90's. If you have evidence that shows otherwise,
please link.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:56PM
Jack, give it up. The more you lie and besmirch Governor Palin,
the more we support her.
Keep it up if you want to help her become president.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:00PM
Do you have a link proving otherwise, dear?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:40PM
A link to your lies?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:09PM
Jack sez: "The facts are she supported the JBS in the 90's. If
you have evidence that shows otherwise, please link. "
Well, you got me there. I haven't proved any negatives lately,
Jack. I guess I'm a little rusty.
Maybe you can show us ignorant Palin-Billies the strawman ... err
...'facts' that she was a member of the John Birch Society.
We are quivering in anticipation of your reply, Jack.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:22PM
Now who's got the strawman argument?
Jack said "she SUPPORTED the JBS in the 90's"
You said, "show us ignorant Palin-Billies the....'facts' that she
was a MEMBER of the JBS".
Just like her support of the AIP, she doesn't have to be a MEMBER
to be a supporter. Keeps the ol' political slate clean, ya know,
just in case...
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:41PM
Romney will NEVER be president. We will make sure of it.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:18AM
Have you opened up your own modern Oracle of Delphi stand or do
you use a crystal ball? Ouija Board? Tarot cards? How much do you
charge to look into the future and make your cogent political
predictions? Romney has a ton more cash than Palin does, and a
lot more experience.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:22AM
I'm a Christian--I'm not into that satanic crap.
Romney is a RINO and is responsible for RomneyCare which
destroyed Massachusetts' economy. He's a disaster!
He's the Republican Obama--that's going to work out great for
him. Oh yeah!
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
Keene is a corrupt beltway hack.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 3:23PM
Liberal Reader:
"Naturally, you'll be accused of a "vicious attack" against
Palin."
If you are a liberal, I would strongly suggest that you view the
short videos I have linked a few posts above this one.
The videos and the article here on Spectator, show what currently
passes for the 'conservative' movement. Spread the links far and
wide to the liberal sites. It's disgusting.
I would be called an old-time conservative. A paleo-conservative,
with a bit of small-l Libertarian in me. Pat Buchanan, Reagan,
Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Bill Buckley etc.would be my heroes. Not
Gingrich, Romney, McCain, Huckabee, Bushes, etc..
Go check out the video and you'll gain some insight into what the
'conservative' movement has become. It will be instructive for
you.
Pete Callaro| 1.8.10 @ 3:27PM
You wrote:
But this bit about David Keene and Fed Ex/UPS (read the link for
explanations of these references to specific issues) was dealt
with months ago, and Keene certainly explained it to my
satisfaction and to the satisfaction of most conservative
bloggers as well.
The point is, in this time of blatant bribes throughout the Halls
of Congress, Palin is making a statement that she will have to
live up to. NO DEALS. We who need a leader we can trust will
watch to see how she lives up to that commitment.
Now I don't say she doesn't have any other agenda but don't we
all? Isn't that the difference between Strategy and Tatics .
Joe| 1.8.10 @ 3:29PM
Sarah
Palin is ditching CPAC because the Birchers are a co-host.
Smart move, dumb? My guess it is the smart move, given that the
Birchers, while I sympathize with their little "l"
libertarianism, are a bit odd. Plus, it is probably wise for a
conservative to quietly ask themselves before an important
decision: "What would WFB, Jr. do?" (Christopher Buckley might
consider that). I mean, I may have disagreements about Ike, but I
do not think he was a Communist.
…was initially denied tenure at Baylor for what were widely perceived to be political reasons. He also occasionally posts comments at the American Spectator website. I was very surprised to see him in this thread playing the rather pedestrian role of mainstream orthodoxy enforcer. He takes a swipe at the entirely honorable Alaska Independence Party and decries the inclusion of the John Birch Society as a…
I guess the fact she's speaking at the Southern Republican
Leadership Conference in New Orleans means nothing. Like CPAC is
the only venue or something
Exactly how did Keene satisfy you? As far as I'm concerned if ACU
doesn't dump him they, along with CPAC, are fast becoming
irrelevant.
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 2:18AM
Blue Dog is a dirtbag.
Bluedog AK| 1.8.10 @ 3:53PM
@Jeff: " 'Advice for Gov. Palin' would seem to be a more
appropriate title."
Newsflash: She's NOT the governor any more, and as an Alaskan I
resent the way people try to pretend she has any standing at all
up here. She quit. She blew us off and tried to pretend it was
for our good and not hers. She loved being governor and disliked
governing. She wanted to cash in on her fame, and she wanted to
create more fame so she could make even more money. She used the
ethics complaints as a pretext, and she put out incomplete and
incorrect information about how much the complaints cost to make
herself into a victim. (The complaint she filed against herself
to avoid the established process cost far, far more than any
other complaint. She fails to mention that.) If people knew how
casually and constantly she lies, they'd be scanning the horizon
for somebody with demonstrabe integrity to lead the way.
But too many people are not willing to look honestly at Palin's
actions and words because, let's face it, it's pretty sad being a
conservative these days, and she makes it seem all fiery and fun.
But you need to ask yourselves: If she found it that easy and
convenient to break her oath to serve her "beloved" Alaskans,
what makes you think she's not going to leave you in the lurch
for her own self-interest? Why is she so afraid to leave her
Facebook foxhole and stand behind her words (assuming she wrote
them, which seems highly unlikely)? Why does she play these coy
little games instead of being forthright and honest about her
plans?
Call me names, but if you really think you're a conservative,
you'll do some deep research, listen to some of her knowledgeable
critics, and consider whether it's remotely possible that Mrs.
Palin has nobody's interests but her own at heart.
Good for her, getting rich and famous. It's the American way. But
for her to continue piously claiming she has a "servant's heart"
is patent BS.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:11PM
Thanks for that, Democrat. I'm very interested in hearing your
opinion, Democrat.
And Alaskan, I'm glad to know you don't mind wasting $2 million
dollars plus the salaries of all the state staffers who are
s'posed to be working for you, but are instead tied up working
for about 5 Alaskans who collectively filed more than 20 ethics
complaints and I don't know how many FOIAs. I guess you're sad
that you won't have to be paying those dollars anymore and that
your state staffers can get back to working for you now. I feel
for you, Alaskan.
Oh and BTW? Another one of those lawsuits was dismissed. Just
this week.
I'm sure you're thrilled about it.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:32PM
Why would you blame Sarah Palin's ethics issues on her AK
constituency? Lawsuits and ethics violations are two different
things.
Lots of other GOP governors have good records in regards to
ethics.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:33PM
Nice try, troll. Too late, your sneaky tactics won't work--Palin
is in the clear and we know it.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:27PM
Bluedog AK, She quit and saved Alaskans millions of dollars as
well as saving herself some money. She did NOT quit on Alaskans
and it is apparent that you are a dirt ball pretty much like
Andres micweasel or whatever the ethics lair b*tch is. Tsk, Tsk
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:36PM
She spent nearly a million dollars and logged thousands of miles
just flying around the state to multiple Governor's Picnics just
to say goodbye.
She said she wasn't going to do that, per her resignation speech:
"I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame
ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe),
overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And
then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame
duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and 'milk it'. I'm
not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and
effectiveness! ? That's not how I am wired. I am not wired to
operate under the same old 'politics as usual.' I promised that
four years ago - and I meant it."
That's TWICE she said "four years ago"! In another part of her
speech: "I promised even four years ago to show MY
independence... no more conventional "politics as usual".
Four years prior to her resignation speech, she was a private
citizen. She wasn't even RUNNING for governor then.
She insisted on being called Governor at the Mall of America, and
who knows where else, but said this in her resignation speech:
"I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do
this - to make a difference..."
She also confused the USA's national debt with the deficit,
apparently: " Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm
America - I resisted those dollars because of the obscene
national debt we're forcing our children to pay, because of
today's Big Government spending..."
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:43PM
All the lies in the world won't make Romney president. Count on
it.
Bluedog AK, Did you watch her speech on July 3rd? There was
nothing easy about her giving that speech and resigning as Gov.
Gov. Palin was sad, upset, and mad as hell. Did she spoil your
plans?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:29PM
Bluedog AK sez: "She quit. She blew us off and tried to pretend
it was for our good and not hers."
Mr BlueDog, did you ever see that Charlie Brown cartoon where
Lucy tees up a football for Charlie to kick and then yanks it
away at the last moment and Charlie falls on his a-ss?
Lucy is Sarah and Charlie is the MSM/Liberals. The football is a
stack of *worthless, baseless, expensive* court cases that would
have cost her and you mucho bucks. You should be grateful to
Sarah for saving you a pile of money, BlueDog.
Also, and most importantly, she could never win the Presidency
now, after that quitting stunt, could she? So, just don't worry
about her. She's harmless.
Right?
Tennessee1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:46PM
BlueDog AK sez:
"let's face it, it's pretty sad being a conservative these days"
Well, I have to respectfully disagree. November is going to be a
conserva-gasm . . . and then Sarah in 2012 . I wonder who will be
the most effective campaigner this year. Sarah or Obama?
I am betting that many Dem candidates won't want to be associated
with him, but hey that's just me.
As for Sarah's appearances, well... back in the day, did you ever
go to a Rolling Stones concert?
Something like that.
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:15PM
Quin has no idea what he is talking about. Do you want the
conservative movement associated with the john birch society,
9-11 conspiracies, birth certificates, and a host of other kooky
things?
Why should Sarah Palin be associated with a group that apparently
has no problem the things I just mentioned?
Jeez, you are dense buddy.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:24PM
Surely you jest? Mrs. Palin is the keynote speaker at the
Teabagger convention in Nashville. Talk about a 'host of other
kooky things'. They just yanked the walker right out from under
the JBS and ran past it into 2010.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:35PM
Nice language smut mouth. Your nastiness is not welcome here.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Nastiness? I believe I've read many times that this is the name
of this group, self-named. People at the rallies wear teabag hats
and called themselves teabaggers. Speaking of nice language, I am
surprised at this comment coming from you, after the truly
inappropriate replies you've been posting here to people who are
stating their opinions: you are calling people fat, trolls, "B",
and commenting on their physical appearance. You can disagree
without degenerating into childish name-calling. Just think how
much smarter it makes you look, which wouldn't hurt. And not
welcome here? I'm sorry, is this your personal blog? Your house?
Place of business? Thought not. Suck it up and relish the
freedoms of the First Amendment.
People at the rallies wear teabag hats and called themselves
teabaggers.
Laura, do you get your talking points from Ko$, DU, or
FireLakeDog?
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:25PM
No, from watching Fox News, CNN, and my local news station when
the group had a rally here! No clue what those places are that
you mentioned... I actually saw people with those hats! They
called themselves TeaBaggers. What is the issue with that?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:22PM
You're still a smut mouth, troll; easy liberal chicks like you
are proud of it, right?
Own it, liberal pervert.
You're probably a foul smelling, fat girl, too.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
Please get your hands out of your pants when typing these
comments. I'm sure it makes you feel better, but it's limiting
your creativity with the insults.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:55PM
Ooooh, so clever! Mature too!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:09PM
Laura sounds like she knows what she's talking about!
Tennessee1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:18PM
Sarah doesn't have to bypass CPAC because of Bircher involvement.
She has -plenty- of other reasons to not be associated with CPAC
as it currently exists.
In the following 3 videos, you will understand why no serious
REAL grassroots conservative would support CPAC:
Good point, Dan. CPAC has many people who think Saddam Hussein
had scary weapons and was about to invade Ohio--tin foil hat
conspiracy theorists, indeed.
Siegfried X| 1.8.10 @ 4:20PM
"The Tea Party Convention is being organized by Tea Party Nation,
a for-profit company that runs a social networking website for
activists, but is not considered a leading group in the Tea Party
movement. It’s paying for Palin’s fee (reported to be in the low
six figures) and other overhead by selling tickets (at $560 a
pop) and by offering sponsorships, in some cases for $50,000
each."
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
You people can't let this Tea Party thing happen can you? Sarah
Palin and sponors at 50,000. That is hugh!
We know that anything Sarah touches, turns to gold.
I feel your pain!
I understand your pain.
David| 1.8.10 @ 4:25PM
You group of republican elites should stop your whining.Get used
to being snubbed by her and the rest of us out here.Who could not
care less what you people think.Get ready for your RINO butts to
be tossed into further irrelivance this year.No one cares what
you beltway boys think. You had your chances to fix Americas
problems and you helped cause most of them. By voting with
democrats on key issues.Fred&Fran; is just one of the things
you RINOs supported with democrats you stopped reforms 3
times.Greed is the only word you guys understand.Change is
here,get used to it and the words bye bye.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:38PM
A lot of the trolls are Romneybots; they're real stinkers.
RINO Romney will never be president.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:40PM
Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are two of the three people I would
never ever vote for. Sarah Palin is the other one.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:45PM
Sure, Romneybot.
Cheapie| 1.8.10 @ 5:42PM
Republican elites are as repulsive as the liberal elites. The
Rino hacks, pundits, lobbyists, and DC social flitters are a big
part of the problem. In 2008 McCain could not exploit the Fannie
Mae/Freddie Mac corruption because so many republican hacks were
also implicated in taking lobby money, board of director perks
etc.
princetrumpet| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
Sorry to disappoint you but this isn't hate mail, either. I do,
however, applaud, Gov. Palin's choice to sit out of the CPAC for
her reasons. She has been and remains principled to the last.
Refreshing.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 5:01PM
When will you get it through you thick head that SHE IS NOT A
GOVERNOR ANYMORE - and SHE QUIT HALFWAYS THROUGH HER TERM, so she
could make $$$$$!!!
SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THE TITLE 'GOVERNOR', because SHE QUIT!!!!
SHE IS A QUITTER!!!
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:17PM
YOUR A DUMBF*UCK
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
Proving once again that Liberalism is a mental disorder!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:41PM
Bonehead G$$ could be a Romney bot. RINO Romney, RomneyCare--just
what we DON'T need.
Go Sarah 2012!
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:04PM
She resigned so you keep the title. Why is that so thick for you
to understand?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:42PM
She said in her resignation speech she didn't NEED the title.
Sarah Palin, July 3, 2009: "I've never believed that I, nor
anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference..."
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:14AM
WHY do you care, loser?
DJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
I won't vote for Palin but I understand why she refused to stand
in the same room as the John Birch Society. CPAC only exists to
make conservatives look foolish. It was founded by a criminal.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
Get over yourself, Quin. Why be so inflammatory? As Leigh said,
we're over pundits, pundettes, and politicians telling us how and
what to think.
Palin is not kowtowing to anyone and making her own decisions.
It's people like Newt, Steele and the GOP aides who need to get
over themselves and just maybe get a clue about how hopelessly
disconnected they are from the conservative minds who want our
country back. Seen the AmericaRising video? Even if you don't
care for the vid...the title is apt. America is rising.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:43PM
Great post, Karen! Quin's been drinking Potomac River water; it's
hard to think clearly when you have Inside the Beltway fever!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:29PM
I love the fradulant conservatives here who run down Palin. Let
me guess, your 100% behind Romney or Pawlenty or some other loser
that will GROW GOVERNMENT!
CPAC aint what it used to be. AMNESTY McCain spoke at it for gods
sake! What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you frauds,
liars, or just left wingers who have come over here to sow
discontent?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:34PM
SarahPAC donated $ to John McCain. Palin supports John McCain.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:39PM
D'OH!!!!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:44PM
So your saying Palin is a liberal now? She isnt conservative
enough for CPAC and their jesse jackson shakedown routine, and
9-11 conspiracies? Perfect.
Donating money to an american hero who she personally likes, has
nothing to do with an organization inviting every amnesty loving,
9-11 conspiracy lunatic to speak.
Do you understand what will happen if she goes there? She will be
branded a birther and 9-11 truther for the rest of her life. But
you do not care about that do you? You want her to be hurt.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Check out what she actually spent her SarahPAC$$$ on:
u r so rite, Great$$$. If you gave $100 to SarahPac, McCain got
50 cents! Chek it out! Sarah's Frends & famly made out like
bandits.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:12AM
You gutless cowards are a riot. Publik Skool Gradyates, all.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 12:39PM
Why is "grow government" the ultimate litmus test of whom should
be considered a legitimate, honorable, principled conservative?
As population increases, isn't it inevitable that government will
"grow"? As new problems emerge that cross state boundaries and
affect millions of people -- isn't it inevitable that principled
conservative politicians will want to resolve those problems and,
in the process, that might involve government activity?
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dr kill| 1.8.10 @ 4:29PM
She's not a conservative, she is libertarian. CPAC is blinkers
on, she has them off. Stop whining. You people are not relevant
anymore, that's what she wants you to understand.
laddy| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
CPAC is a corruptocrat org ruled by establishment insiders that
most of us outside the beltway have had enough of in this
lifetime. I don't think you have a clue what most of us cons
outside the beltway think of you and the rest of the group of
insiders. The very fact that Birchers are allowed to sponsor is
enough to reject the entire group based on that alone.
Michael| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
The idea that Sarah is not attending CPAC due to the Bircher
sponsorship is bull. She had a Bircher working the waiting line
at her book signing in Wasilla 2 weeks ago. I really feel it's a
petty disagreement with Keene, that people are misunderstanding
as some sort of policy stand.
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:45PM
Keene is an ASS AND A LIAR. That is good enough reason for me,
but there are others as well.
Michael | 1.8.10 @ 4:53PM
Of course you are entitled to your opinion! I just want to
clarify that Sarah Palin does not appear to have a problem with
the Birchers, and I think people are jumping to conclusions to
say that's the reason no CPAC.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:46PM
CPAC is corrupt--that's why Sarah's not attending.
Go Palin 2012!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:56PM
Do you know her?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:53PM
Do you?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:02PM
No, but I'm not putting words in her mouth.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:46PM
Neither am I, moron.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:13AM
Holmby wrote, @5:46: "CPAC is corrupt--that's why Sarah's not
attending."
Sarah Palin never said that. You ARE putting words in her mouth.
Let the lady speak for herself.
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 3:25AM
It's my OPINION, moron--you know Freedom of Speech? I didn't say
those were Sarah's words, did I? You're putting words in my
mouth.
Dipstick Romneybot, he's never going to get elected. Stooge.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 1:03PM
Michael: I hope your interpretation is not correct -- because if,
like Cong. Ron Paul, Sarah decides at some point to explicitly
endorse the Birch Society -- then it will be the end of whatever
chance she has for a further political career.
As I previously stated in a message posted here, most people are
clueless about the underlying ideology which informs JBS
thinking.
SO THE QUESTION IS: Does Sarah Palin buy into these JBS premises?
For example: In 2002, the JBS published a new edition of JBS
founder Robert Welch's so-called "private letter", entitled The
Politician. The JBS describes this edition on the back cover as
"perhaps the most devestating expose of the last century" because
it "tells the bitter, but little known, truth" about our postwar
history.
Among the "truths" which the JBS wants everyone to read and
believe is that President Eisenhower and virtually all of our
political leaders and government officials during the past 8
decades have been traitors and conspirators.
And to bring this message into contemporary history, the back
cover of the 2002 edition states:
"But most importantly The Politician exposes that 'conspiracy of
gangsters' which even now is setting America's foreign and
domestic policy."
The "conspiracy of gangsters" quote is lifted from the following
comment by Welch in The Politician:
"To paraphrase Elizabeth Churchill Brown, 'the only enemies the
American people have to fear are the enemies in their midst.' The
most conspicuous and injurious of these enemies today, I believe,
is named Dwight David Eisenhower. He is either a willing agent,
or an integral and important part, of a conspiracy of gangsters
determined to rule the world at any cost.”
So the “conspiracy of gangsters” idea is not a reference to
honest mistakes made by decent, honorable, principled
individuals. Instead, it is a reference to traitors and
conspirators who want to impose a world-wide tyranny and whom,
therefore, are not legitimate competitors – but profound enemies
of our way of life.
If you check my report on the JBS at
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1 which is based upon FBI
files and documents you will see scanned copies of pages 266-269
of the unpublished edition of The Politician which contains the
statements by Welch in which he described President Eisenhower as
a Communist traitor.
Incidentally, the themes, assertions, arguments, and evidence in
The Politician differ not one iota from the themes, assertions,
arguments and evidence used in JBS literature since its inception
-- so it is quite disingenuous to propose that there was ever
some sort of distinction between what the JBS believes versus
what Mr. Welch wrote in his so-called "private letter".
For example: in private remarks to the first meeting of his JBS
National Council on January 9, 1960, at the Union League Club in
Chicago, Welch made these observations about the gravity of our
situation:
“From a careful and realistic study of the mountainous pile of
evidence that is there for all to see, certain terrifying
conclusions are objectively inescapable. Among them are:
(1) The Communists are winning their large victories, as they
always have, through the cumulative effect of small gains;
(2) They make these gains chiefly through the conniving
assistance of many of the very diplomats and officials who are
supposed to be opposing them;
(3) Communist influences are now in almost complete working
control of our government;
(4) And hence, the United States Government is today, as it has
been for many years, the most important and powerful single force
promoting the world-wide Communist advance.” [A Confidential
Report To Members Of The Council of The John Birch Society –
minutes of 1/9/60 meeting held at Union League Club in Chicago
IL, page 1-2; minutes signed by Robert Welch.]
Furthermore, according to the minutes of this meeting, Robert
Welch stated:
"Today, gentlemen, I can assure you, without the slightest doubt
in my own mind that the takeover at the top is, for all practical
purposes, virtually complete. Whether you like it or not, or
whether you believe it or not, our Federal Government is already,
literally in the hands of the Communists." [Ibid, page 2]
"In our two states with the largest population, New York and
California ...already the two present Governors are almost
certainly actual Communists...Our Congress now contains a number
of men like Adam Clayton Powell of New York and Charles Porter of
Oregon, who are certainly actual Communists, and plenty more who
are sympathetic to Communist purposes for either ideological or
opportunistic reasons." [Ibid, page 7] [Note: the reference to
Governors refers to Edmund G. Brown of California and Nelson
Rockefeller of New York.]
"In the Senate, there are men like Stephen Young of Ohio, and
Wayne Morse of Oregon, McNamara of Michigan, and Clifford Case of
New Jersey and Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Estes Kefauver of
Tennessee and John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts, whom it is utter
folly to think of as just liberals. Every one of those men is
either an actual Communist or so completely a Communist
sympathizer or agent that it makes no practical difference..."
[Ibid, page 8]
“Our Supreme Court, dominated by Earl Warren and Felix
Frankfurter and Hugo Black, is so visibly pro-Communist that no
argument is even needed…And our federal courts below that
level…are in many cases just as bad.” [Ibid, page 8]
"Our State Department is loaded with Communists from top to
bottom, to the extent that our roll call of Ambassadors almost
sounds like a list somebody has put together to start a Communist
front." ... [Ibid, page 8]
"It is estimated from many reliable sources that from 70% to 90%
of the responsible personnel in the Department of Health,
Education, and Welfare are Communists. Our Central Intelligence
Agency under Allen Dulles is nothing more or less than an agency
to promote Communism throughout the world...Almost all the other
Departments are loaded with Communists and Communist
sympathizers. And this generalization most specifically does
include our whole Defense Department." [Ibid, page 8]
Looks like the GOP is going to have to actually WORK for their
votes this election cycle. Self Indulgent much, taking so many
people's votes for granted? SEE Posturing as the lesser of two
evils, and failing miserably. And now a whine fest ensues. I
don't know many Conservatives that identify with the Republican
Party, shooting itself in the foot, than wanting sympathy for the
consequences. Self Indulgent much? 10% unemployment, 2 wars, out
of control spending by an out of control congress, how about that
panty bomber? Isn't our National Security Agencies Great/SARC.
How about our culture - has your teenager brought home his
fisting pamphlet from public school yet, maybe he can graduate
and get a job with the TSA? I am supposed to feel sorry for the
Republicans? Because they can't figure out they can't get elected
to dog catcher without their Conservative Base. Sorry, My Give A
Damn Is Busted. Independent Leans Libertarian.
Looks like the GOP is going to have to actually WORK for their
votes this election cycle. Self Indulgent much, taking so many
people's votes for granted? SEE Posturing as the lesser of two
evils, and failing miserably. And now a whine fest ensues. I
don't know many Conservatives that identify with the Republican
Party, shooting itself in the foot, than wanting sympathy for the
consequences. Self Indulgent much? 10% unemployment, 2 wars, out
of control spending by an out of control congress, how about that
panty bomber? Isn't our National Security Agencies Great/SARC.
How about our culture - has your teenager brought home his
fisting pamphlet from public school yet, maybe he can graduate
and get a job with the TSA? I am supposed to feel sorry for the
Republicans? Because they can't figure out they can't get elected
to dog catcher without their Conservative Base. Sorry, My Give A
Damn Is Busted. Independent Leans Libertarian.
…Palin, if you ask me. No more whining about press hit jobs, Sarah. You’ve now proved yourself rather capable of orchestrating the very same thing. Maybe Hillyer is right and getting over yourself wouldn’t be such a bad idea . I’ve no intention of making the mistake the Left made by becoming so entranced with a shooting star my eyes glaze over. They forgot stars don’t burn forever and…
joedoe| 1.8.10 @ 4:47PM
Dozens and dozens and dozens of reporters swooped into Alaska
immediately after Palin was chosen as McCain's running mate. They
turned over every rock in the state looking for dirt, or anything
that might even hint of dirt. They got the bogus book ban story
and a video of her in a Pentecostal church along with a visiting
evangelist.
Do any of you honestly think all those reporters, that were
hungry to destroy the woman, would have missed all the BS some
are spewing on this blog? lol
How did that Keene endorsement of Arlen Specter work out? Oh,
right, he took the NRSC's money and ran to the Democrat side.
Keene sure can pick 'em. Face it, he took the "C" out of CPAC.
- JP
- JP
John Bibb| 1.8.10 @ 5:14PM
***
The Sarah'Cuda is a lot smarter than the guy who wrote this
article. She saw what happened to her in the 10 week
campaign--and she is a quick learner.
***
She is taking cheap, effective, deadly Facebook "sniper shots"
from the woods--and drawing real liberal blood every time. And
like a good sniper--she never shoots unless she knows she will
hit the target. Stepping on land mines is unhelpful!
***
SARAH PALIN for POTUS, JOHN BOLTON for VP in 2012. The America
First ticket.
***
Rocketman
***
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:37PM
I disagree that Mrs. Palin is the author of the posts on
Facebook. She may agree with the premise but is not doing the
writing. You cannot be as poorly spoken as she has been when
captured on camera, and yet literate in writing. If you cannot
articulate your positions face to face, it seems that it would be
even more difficult to put them down on 'paper'. And posting
policy statements on Facebook and Twitter, expecting the American
public to take them seriously...these are websites for teenagers
and young adults to catalogue their bar-hopping, beer-goggled
conquests and give each other imaginary gifts. William Buckley is
rolling over in his grave. Mrs. Palin, go on a serious LIVE Meet
the Press type forum and talk directly to the American people
about what you stand for. Please don't limit yourself to
invitation-only events open only to those who can afford to hear
you speak!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.8.10 @ 5:48PM
Buzz off Laura; we're sick of nasty liars like you.
Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
Not true Laura.
When I don't have my coffee, I forget my own name. I tend to be
the same way. Normally, since reaching my 40's, I'm not as
articulate verbally. But when writing, you get a chance to
re-read comments, etc. Sarah is not as smooth a talker as say
Huckabee, but she writes her own stuff.
Anybody who has seriously studied this woman, knows she writes
her own stuff on Facebook, and that the style of writing in her
autobiography matches her past writings.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:53PM
Hi, Sapwolf. How are things going over at C4P? How did the
Barracuda Brigade protest go yesterday? Anyone get arrested for
trying to suborn a state judicial official?
We have listened, too, to Sarah Palin's speeches -- and yes, she
does write a lot of her own stuff, like a few of the speeches
she's given. But NONE of the Facebook material.
She writes her Tweets. I think she even writes Bristol's and
Willow's Tweets (like the one a week or so ago). And I think
Sarah Palin has been writing Bristol's new Myspace for her, too
("working my butt off"? Sounds just like her mother a year ago)
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:09AM
Scary stalker. Palin should call the cops on you. You know too
much about her personal life.
I feel like I should take a shower after I read your nasty
drivel.
Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
Not true Laura.
When I don't have my coffee, I forget my own name. I tend to be
the same way. Normally, since reaching my 40's, I'm not as
articulate verbally. But when writing, you get a chance to
re-read comments, etc. Sarah is not as smooth a talker as say
Huckabee, but she writes her own stuff.
Anybody who has seriously studied this woman, knows she writes
her own stuff on Facebook, and that the style of writing in her
autobiography matches her past writings.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:45PM
Laura, You most certainly can be more eloquent, precise and on
target when writing as opposed to speaking. Let me try to help
you understand why. With writing you can get out your initial
thoughts, then step away and mull them over, go back and edit and
tweak and generally wordsmith them until they are precisely what
you want to say. Your argument is ludicrous.
Additionally, you are woefully ignorant of Facebook which has
expanded far beyond the college gang. People of all generations
are on Facebook to keep up with friends scattered far and wide as
well as family. I recommend you look at the number of Fortune 500
companies who realize the force of Facebook and have created
corporate Facebook pages.
Honey, you don't get it. Sarah Palin in talking to the American
people on her terms. She's reach more people on Facebook than she
would on Meet the Press. She doesn't NEED Meet the Press or
anyone else. She is more than capable of getting her message out
without them. She is controlling her message and it's galling
those who believe that they have the right to tell the American
people how and what someone thinks so we will know how and what
to think.
Laura, you are out of touch.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:59PM
Very well said, only one problem. These people are not merely out
of touch, they are certifiably bat-guano loony tunes. That is the
only thing I would correct about what you have said.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:58PM
She's controlling book sales on Facebook. You got it right that
Facebook is a corporate platform. Totally agree.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:54PM
I thought you were on the fence about Palin, Jack. Why so
negative?
Liar troll.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:03PM
What did you read that was negative about what I wrote above? You
Palin folks are crazy.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:48PM
Everything! Stupid or crazy; I haven't decided which one applies
to you--probably both.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:10AM
Seriously, you're anti-corporation? You're anti-Facebook? Do you
realize that Facebook is a corporation? Why shouldn't Sarah Palin
be allowed to promote her book via a corporate platform?
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 3:29AM
No, I'm anti-liar, that's why I detest trolls like you.
Get it?
AKReport| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
the people who call palin a quitter are just being faux or
uniformed. She left because it was economically impossible to
keep her job when liberals exploited a loophole in the state
ethics laws to put her into bankruptcy, and it would have become
impossible to run for Potus while being GOV for 2 more years in a
state 4 hours behind east coast time.
the loophole in the ethics law was that she had to pay legal fees
out of pocket for dissmissed (bogus ethics complaints) most
states (and the potus) have the taxpayers pay for ethics issues.
the fact that she left early had nothing to do with her abilitys
to be Gov. or POTUS for that matter.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:00PM
Palin supporters must face that many conservatives don't like a
quitter--no matter what the reason. Nixon was going to be
impeached, so he had to resign. And he committed a crime.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:57PM
We don't like RINOS, Jack; unfortunately for RINO Romney.
It was pretty criminal how Romney destroyed Massachusetts'
economy.
pnkearns| 1.8.10 @ 5:24PM
Yea gads.....
So "hurt" because Sarah has jilted the CPAC (the Conservative
Political Action Conference). CPAC who...? If you're not a
political wonk (and I am a conservative), you have to google to
find out what the heck it is. Yet another political action
group/event out of hundreds, if not thousands.
Memo to Hillyer: Get over yourself.
Joe| 1.8.10 @ 5:30PM
Sarah is showing that principle and core believes are her
motivation, not special interest. She is obviously becoming the
one politician that is holding true to what her core principles
demand, and isn't schmoozing with the power brokers of both the
GOP and conservative organizations that have lost their core.
That dirty game that specializes in special interest and back
room deals, has defined the health care debate, and all of the
democrat's legislative agenda. It's a game the little Alaskan
alien is not willing to play, and all who care about what
Washington has become should applaud her.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:45PM
Are you kidding? Mrs. Palin is the protege of Fred Malek, Rupert
Murdoch, James Dobson, and Franklin Graham. All four have advised
her, all publicly acknowledge this, and some even escort her to
DC insider social events. Don't take my word for it: google it.
She met with Newt Gingrich and Bill Kristol in Alaska in the
summer of 2007, on a conservative cruise: google it. She has had
nothing but the best insider beltway advice. Google Palin and
Karl Rove. He was calling her in Alaska prior to her VP
nomination. You cannot BE in American politics without making
deals and having someone powerful sponsor you...or schmoozing, as
you put it. Both parties are party to 'that dirty game'. You're a
fool if you think Mrs. Palin is independent. Remember, 'you gotta
serve somebody'.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 5:50PM
Buzz off Laura; we're sick and tired of nasty liars like you. Go
back under your slimy rock.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:28PM
Hey, why don't you buzz off, or at least come up with something a
bit more original for each retort, other than copying and pasting
your previous reply? Bit of a stretch for you, I think.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:15PM
Doesn't matter what you say, troll--it's too late. You can't stop
Palin with your vicious lies; you just make us support her more.
Loser.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:16PM
No one wants to stop you from supporting her. Support her all you
want. Other conservatives have a right to feel differently
without being called names.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:58PM
You called us names first, moron. You are not a Conservative!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:04PM
Find one place I have called you or anyone on this board a name.
You lie.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:50PM
I was referring to your buddy, the lovely cow KarenJ. Still gonna
lie about calling names?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:57PM
Aw, I think I hurt your feelings.
So THAT'S why the deluge of barnyard epithets, playground
insults, and hair-pulling has been going on since my first
comment....
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 10:19PM
Nah, I was treating you with all of the disrespect you deserved.
Now go home; the other cows are mooing for you, or perhaps it's
the pigs oinking--whichever, in your case, they both apply. :)
Laura, Laura, Laura. Now, don't you be worrying your ?pretty?
little head about Mrs. Palin.
She's just a nobody. An ignorant cow pattie in the superhighway
to Democrat 2012 success.
Heck, she's from so far back in the sticks it takes her 2 or 3
days to learn what Wolf Blitzer and Keith Olbermann think about
her, and that's when her electricity is workin'!! LOL! What a
joke she is. An embarassment.
She don't even read or nothing like that. Just another backwards
Wasilla-billy.
She ain't no problem.
Right?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:48PM
Goggle has their lips planted on Obama's butt. Check-out the
story at Foxnews.com about Goggle.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:49PM
Laura, Again you prove how out of touch you are. There is no
longer any such thing as "the best insider beltway advice".
Inside the Beltway advice is poison these days.
America Rising
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:03PM
I agree, but once again, you are too kind.
Obsessively maliciously disturbed, that is more accurate than
just "out of touch".
There is a purpose behind this twisted crusade these people are
engaged in, and it doesn't comport with reality.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:59PM
Why not just say "agree with reality" or something
less...elite-sounding?
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:04AM
What would you know about reality, doofus?
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:08AM
Are you instigating an ontological discussion?
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 3:32AM
Big words, big troll. Too bad you don't understand them. lol
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 5:42PM
Why do you need Sarah Palin there?
You have Mitt, T-Paw, and others. Why did Huck cancel? I didn't
hear anything about that. I'll tell you what, get rid of the fat
lying Keene and people will pour in. If Sarah Palin doesn't what
to attend she doesn't have to attend. So you people need to get
over youselves. Quin get over yourself. We all know you don't
like the Tea Party movement.
I am geting really pissed off that Sarah Palin is the only one
that should not get paid for giving a speech. That Sarah Palin is
getting paid to much.
What the hell is she supposed to do pay for her own travel,
expenses, and security for every freckin speech. Get Real!
Get a life you bunch of creeps and STFU!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:52PM
Quin's a Beltway insider and irrelevant. Ignore him.
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Wow. I just read through the comments here, and am amazed at the
depth of thought and research that went into each and every one.
You all should be very proud!
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 6:28PM
And we should care what you think why?
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 6:46PM
A case in point. For a notable exception, see Sapwolf @6:01.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:17PM
What profundity do you have to share, Andy?
Criticism is cheap and easy.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:05PM
I think your comments prove that point, dear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:52PM
My comments prove that you're cheap and easy, Jack? Okay, if you
say so.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:07AM
Your comments prove that the average Palin supporter comprehends
and corresponds at about the 5th grade level.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 10:08PM
Then why have you spent so much of your time responding to my
correspondence? Fool.
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Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:01PM
The problem with David Keane, the ACU, and CPAC is:
1) Keane was bought off and this is not good for the image of the
ACU/CPAC.
2) Keane is now considered more of an insider rather than an
activist.
3) CPAC has over the years become more of an establishment/DC
event. Yes it has some conservatives like Rush and Ann Coulter
and Newt before he lost his credibility with the Scozzafava
affair.
4) It is located in DC which lends to the feeling it is at least
partially for 'insiders' more than 'outsiders'.
5) It has become the main vehicle for the GOP establishment of
the east coast to push Mitt Romney.
6) Keane has had unkind words for Sarah in the past, implying
that he does not take her seriously.
7) The JBS backing of the conference probably should have been
avoided due to some embarrassing moments in its history.
If Sarah, the consummate outsider and common-sense conservative
accepted after encountering 1 thru 7 above, it would have done
tremendous damage I think to her credibility as a conservative,
but one from the grassroots, sympathetic to the Tea Party
Movement, and the outsider with the reform credentials. It would
definitely appeared to people that she was kow-towing to Keane,
let alone the establishment of the GOP.
Sarah made the correct choice here. However, I would not write
off Sarah from a future visit in 2011 or 2012 at CPAC if the ACU
can address the issues in 1 thru 7 above, including a probable
resignation by David Keane. By getting back their creds. as a
conference of conservative activists without the insider tainting
or image, it can really bounce back as a stellar conference of
principles rather than simply interested in money or influence or
just pushing the latest establishment favorite.
By the way, since when in the world is it wrong to be a shrewd
but principled politician?
This is gonna be a winner for 2010 for Sarah, the GOP, the Tea
Party Movement, the SRLC, CPAC (due to stars like Rubio, etc. and
the possibility of some reforms and image makeovers), and others
who realize how deep a latrine DC has become.
NOTE: CPAC needs to get the hell out of DC and rotate the
conference all over the country so that it helps with its image
as a conservative activist conference open to more than just
those who live on the east coast, eat brie and golf.
the405| 1.10.10 @ 11:52PM
Sapwolf,
The problem conservatives have with Palin's recent actions
regarding CPAC and NTPC are...
1. Plain attending a first year conference with no track record
for 100K fee is pay-for play of the worst kind. (She only
accpeted for the fee nothing more)
2. You run around saying everyone who goes to CPAC put's
"pocketbook over policy" while taking a 100K fee from a event
that has done nothing to promote conservatism.
3. How can we trust NTPC head Judson Phillips when we know so
little about him? Who made him leader of the Tea party movement?
4. NTPC is located in Nashville run by people who have no track
record that we know little about. CPAC has put people into the
house, white house and Senate. NTPC can only get speakers by
paying their fees.
5. Mitt works CPAC very well. If Palin cant defeat Mitt at CPAC
what makes you think she can defeat him in a 2012 Primary?
6. While Keene's comments about Palin "whihing" were out of line.
It does not excuse Palin's smear of over 9000 people who attend
CPAC saying they are sell outs. Two wrongs dont make a right.
7. NTPC has invited birther advocate Joseph Farah of World Net
Daily as thier big Friday night speaker. Palin already had a
scandal in regards to the birither movement and this is going to
tie her further to that movement.
Frankly Palin made a stupid move in by dissing CPAC and the
people who support it. If she tohught it would weaken CPAC and
bring down Keene then she is going to be in for a rude awakening.
If NTPC has any problems (and with them barring press form thier
event it looks like NTPC has something to hide) or if CPAC grows
in size then Palin is going to take a big hit.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.13.10 @ 10:55PM
Palin will kick RINO Mitt's butt. Wait and see.
Romney's nothing.
Only a RINO wouldn't know that. You're no Conservative. Nice try,
though.
nohype| 1.8.10 @ 6:02PM
Sarah Palin wears a visor and sets off controversy. She decides
to attend one conference rather than another and sets off
controversy. She is a private citizen and can do what she wants.
If Romney had decided to skip one conference and attend another,
would anyone care? Why the different standard for Palin?
By the way, the headline to this post was unnecessary and a low
blow. But I guess it did what it was intended to do, which is
bring in readers.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:44PM
You are right. It has become an event for Romney. Why would any
speaker appear their?
It is an event for Romney.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:18PM
Most of these trolls are Romneybots. Vicious.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:20PM
Did Romney ever quit his elected job?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:05PM
I knew you trolls were Romneybots. Scuzzballs.
Did Romney destroy the Massachusetts' economy with his
RomneyCare? Why, yes he did.
Romney is the Obama of the Republican party and he will NEVER be
president. Bet on it.
No RINOS!!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:09PM
Actually, I haven't decided who I am for, but if you are Team
Palin, you have not made me feel welcome. I feel sorry for her.
Her supporters really do her a disservice with the constant
name-calling if anyone asks a simple question, and the lack of
data about her record.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:17PM
Don't feel sorry for the Governor--she's got plenty of passionate
supporters who love and fight for her.
I feel sorry for losers like you who troll web-sites to cause
trouble.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:27PM
Your comments have more invective than mine, dear. You might be
trolling for Romney, trying to turn people off of Palin!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:00PM
Nice try, Bozo. We see right through your Romneybot baloney.
Tennessean| 1.8.10 @ 11:17PM
Jack, surely you can afford her book. Unless, of course, you are
just a worthless troll.
King Bonzo the Fourth| 1.8.10 @ 6:05PM
Dear Mr. Quin:
How dare you, sir, criticize Ms. Palin for exercising her God
given right to refuse an invitation. You do believe in freedom of
choice don't you?
Moreover, your hyperventilated reprisal calls to mind a old
expression: there is no fury like a woman scorned.
I will revise this expression by applying it to you : there is no
fury like a moron scorned. Wear it well, you are most deserving.
King Bonzo the Fourth| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
(continued)
It would further appear evident that Quin and his organizaation,
CPAC, needs Ms. Palin far more than she needs you.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:21PM
I agree. Makes Quin look bad. Sarah doesn't need him or CPAC.
…being somewhat of a diva. It's hard to be a diva and a woman of the people at the same time. To paraphrase Fagin from Oliver Twist: I think she better think it out again.” http://spectator.org/blog/2010/01/08/memo-to-palin-get-over-yoursel Ouch! You Nazi Obama lovers at the American Spectator better get ready for the onslaught of angry Palinistas; they will stop at nothin’ to vindicate their Precious Grifting…
Blogforceone| 1.8.10 @ 6:11PM
An appearance by Sarah Palin would be immediately covered as
front page news by the government- run media, with split images
of her with 1950's cutouts of John Birch Society rallies
extolling the virtues of segregation and Bigotry. Not that the
JBS stands for such p0licies now as the Org. has been largely
reformed as of late. She has the wisdom to avoid months of bad
leftist press that would result from her association with an
appearance. Why should she be a lightning rod for the left at
this early date? She will run and win the Republican nomination
in 2012 and likely be sworn in on Jan. 20th, 2013 as the POTUS.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 1:19PM
Blogforceone: You are mistaken in your contention that the JBS
has "reformed". In its 51 years of existence it has never
retracted ONE WORD of any derogatory statement it has made about
any person or organization in its history.
Not even when it lost the historic precedent-setting libel
lawsuit which cost them $400,000!
What HAS changed, is that the JBS has become much more PR-savvy.
Its publications and website are very attractive and are designed
to lure unsuspecting people into the Birch orbit in much the same
manner that Communist front groups seduced liberals during the
1930's and 1940's.
Tami| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
You dimwit liberal groups just don't get it do you? Try reading
her book and you will get a clear, concise reason why she quit as
Gov.
Palin for President 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
A lot of these posters are sneaky Romneybots.
NO RINO ROMNEY!!
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:51PM
Romney doesn't stand a chance. Don't waste your breath.
RomenyCare and Mormonism. Enuf said.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:22PM
I dislike his politics not his religion.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:06PM
How about making some points about policy?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:56PM
RomneyCare. Nothing more to be said. Romney is the Republican
Obama.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:05AM
A policy wonk you're not. But then again, you support Sarah
Palin, someone who can't tell Sean Hannity the difference between
Iraq and Iran, and who Bill O'Reilly schools about the Middle
East. At least Mitt Romney served his term and isn't featured on
tabloids.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 4:03AM
RomneyCare = ObamaCare; devastating to RINO Romney.
We Conservatives are NOT real fond of the Marxist, Obama or his
policies, if you've noticed.
Sorry.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:05PM
Yeah. Every page has something on it that can be fact-checked and
found to be wrong, inaccurate, misleading, or an outright lie.
This fact-checking has been done to my knowledge by three
separate entities.
What's amazing is that every Palin supporter reads the same thing
and doesn't realize this. No background knowledge about Palin's
past, or curiosity, or whatever...
The funniest thing is, Governor Sanford has 'WAY worse problems
than Sarah Palin ever did, and he's still hanging in there in
South Carolina.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 11:22PM
KarenJ said: "Every page has something on it that can be
fact-checked and found to be wrong, inaccurate, misleading, or an
outright lie. This fact-checking has been done to my knowledge by
three separate entities. "
Wow. But she's ignorant. And a quitter!! She doesn't have a
chance!! She's toast. Old news.
Wow, those pics were harsh, so sad--probably true, too.
I thought you'd linked some photos of large farm animals grazing
on the meadow.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 11:47AM
KarenJ says: "What's amazing is that every Palin supporter reads
the same thing and doesn't realize this. No background knowledge
about Palin's past"
I know where she was born, the schools she attended, and who paid
for them. I know she has governmental executive experience. I
know she has been involved in an actual small business. I'm
pretty sure that none of her acquaintances blew up government
buildings to commit violent revolution against America. I've
never heard that her pastor was a despicable, foul racist. Her
father was a school teacher, not a card-carrying communist
activist. Those are a few of the things I know about her.
The effete intellectual snobs that claim leadership of the
conservative movement have presided over its balkanization.Their
quest for power and influence has splintered the movement and
resulted in the nomination of the RINO king in 2008.Palin doesn't
need these elitists and is letting them know it !
Don| 1.8.10 @ 7:23PM
The real problem with you moronic conservatives and you moronic
insipid reasoning is....you gained so many liberals after 9/11
and the Dems just kept sending you more and more through the Bush
years, that you just don't know what to do. Drop the whole anti
government schitch. Go we love America and intend to defend her
'and' we can find government solutions to major problems for our
citizens. Free market control of health care. Mac Donald's,
Walmart, Google, all great free market american enterprises. But
let's leave national defense, community crime fighting and health
care to people not looking to profit.
billgibbs43| 1.8.10 @ 7:37PM
Don---Why don't we all work for non profit---and by the way
,according to ALL polls,liberals are still the only shrinking
group!!!!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:02PM
Link?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:08PM
Like you ever provided one, hypocrite.
Besides, everyone knows that Gallup shows Conservatism is
trumping Liberalism now.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:14PM
Janice, why so angry?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:02PM
Not angry, Jacko--just amused at you Romneybots and your silly
nonsense.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:07PM
I don't feel welcomed by you Palin supporters. Not at all.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:12PM
And we're not interest in liars. So leave.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:02AM
Point to where I have lied. Thanks, dear.
Colorado| 1.8.10 @ 8:03PM
Grandma Gifter is only in it for herself and the money. She lies
continually and spews hate every time she opens her mouth.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:10PM
Like the lies and hate you spew, troll?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:07PM
You're starting to sound like a broken record, Janice.
Or a cuckoo clock.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 10:21PM
Something you'd know a lot about, Ms. Stalker.
Scary.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 8:42PM
Sarah has been given all the gifts she needs to lead by God. She
may not be a perfect person, she may say and do strange things
sometimes, and she may even be more interested in money than
governing, but God knows what America needs right now and he gave
us Sarah, therefor it's obvious why all good Americans will pick
Sarah.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:05PM
So many loser Romneybots, so many loser RINOS like Romney;Romney
will NEVER be president. Bet on it, trolls.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 9:16PM
There is no reason to doubt that Romney is a good family man, but
he doesn't fully embody real American values the way Sarah does.
The choice is clear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:58PM
It's political not personal. Both of them are good people,
Romney's just too liberal.
We are sick of RINOS--Mitt will NEVER be president. Wait and see.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:09PM
Yeah, that's what we need. A theocratic bungling grifter who
speaks in tongues.
MUCH better than a constitutional scholar.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 10:25PM
He's a flip-flopping, RINO liberal, Karen--and that's why Myth
Romney will NEVER be president. COUNT ON IT!
We know you Romneybots are dirty--you've sealed his fate.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 10:30PM
I think you're being disrespectful to what God want for his
nation. John McCain was called upon to put his whole political
career in jeopardy by introducing a seemingly incredulous
prospect unto the nation. He did, now we all have Sarah to look
to as she takes the reigns of the gift bestowed unto her to make
all of America how she's fit, which is of course God's vision.
It's sad and ironic that an honorable man like John McCain now
has no credibility for this great act of courage, but the Lord
works in mysterious ways. I'm sure McCain understands as I'm sure
Sarah need not be concerned for she has greater work to be done.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 11:27PM
"Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 10:30PM"
Troll Alert
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 12:06AM
Yes, maybe so, but that "Troll" could have been the 44th
president of the United States if not for paving the way for
Sarah.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:10AM
Tenn: We've got a live one here!
Rubber Room alert.
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 1:42AM
Will that room require a surcharge above and beyond the initial
$395? If so, I pray the bingo balls come in my favor.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:57AM
I wouldn't know about the price of the room but I'm sure you'll
find out---soon.
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 2:03AM
Are you saying you want to bunk up with me?
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 3:58AM
No, but I'm sure Jack does.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:19AM
Shame on you Quin (again!), you come to all these types of
conclusions based on assumptions, and as you note, lack of
evidence.
You would fit in really well with the climate science crowd.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:22AM
It seems KarenJ had one abortion too many. Unfortunately, that is
what happens to many liberal tarts, they need to satisfy that
loss, with lies, hate and bitterness.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:21AM
Great comment, Harden. Sadly, I believe you're right.
There's got to be a reason for so much hatred and bitterness. Too
bad the 'Liberal Tart' doesn't know God. He could help.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:26AM
Personally I'm glad Palin is shaking people like Keene and
Hillyer up. So refreshing, after Obama turning out to be soooo
typical and common, a garden variety clueless democrat.
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 12:32AM
Let's look at the last 34 years of presidential elections in
terms of exciting candidates.
76 - Exciting beats boring.
80 - Exciting beats boring - Carter went from exciting to boring
during his term
84 - Exciting beats boring
88 - Boring beats boring
92 - Exciting beats boring
96 - Exciting beats boring
00 - Boring beats boring
04 - Boring beats boring
08 - Exciting beats boring
Notice a trend? Exciting beats boring every time. No one in the
Republican party can beat Obama except the only potential
candidate who excites people. And that is clearly Palin. She is
the country's only hope.
12 - Exciting vs. Exciting
Bring it on!
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:42AM
Good post, but ...
12 - Exciting vs. Exciting
That was 2008 with Palin in McCain's spot :).
Now it is:
12 Very Exciting (Palin) beats Boring and Wee-Wee'd (Obama or
Clinton)
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 1:04AM
I would love to see Hillary challenge Obama for the '12
nomination. Either way whoever comes out the winner will be so
bloodied that he or she will not stand a chance against the
Repub.
I have been licking my chops for a Palin Obama prize fight since
it became clear that Obama would defeat McCain. But the notion of
a Sarah Hillary mud wrestle also savors the chops of this
political theater junkie.
You can't see anything anyway with your head tightly planted so
far up your rear end.
Great$$$| 1.9.10 @ 12:45AM
I just wanted to say my heartfelt 'thanks!' to all you
'conservatives' out there.
I usually frequent 'liberal' blogs, but every once-in-a-while, I
venture out to see what goes on on the 'other' side.
I must say I am amazed at the mean and vile language, at the
personal attacks, name calling, and at the total disregard of
civility and facts.
I am glad I got my 'righty-fix' out of the way this early in the
year!
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 1:47AM
Well, how outrageous we are!! How could we? Shame on us for
hurting your poor, delicate liberal feelings. Awww, poor widdle
trolls; cry, moan, b!tch and complain--that's your whiny liberal
mantra!
Great $$, why don't you mosey on back to your fellow 'tolerant',
foul mouthed liberal morons over at Huff Po; you never use rough
language or speak ill of Conservatives, right? Of course not!!
Just remember, you trolls called us foul names first. You
loathsome slimeballs just aren't used to getting it thrown back
in your face. Too bad, it's a new day!! lol
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:23AM
Great$$ : "I am glad I got my 'righty-fix' out of the way this
early in the year! "
And we are glad as well. So now, just go back to sleep.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:22AM
Great$$$: Before you go ...
May you and that cow KarenJ be happy in your Palin derangement.
I'm sure many people here would agree your fear is so obvious and
palpable, your anguish so extreme, we can imagine the bodily
liquids frothing and leaking whilst you whine.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:52AM
Harden, I don't know who you are--but I love you! Thanks for your
great posts--you made me laugh.
That's 'Madcow' Karen. LOL!
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 11:53AM
"May you and that cow KarenJ be happy ..we can imagine the bodily
liquids frothing and leaking "
EWWWWWWWW!!!
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:26AM
Glen:
I agree Glen, either would make an interesting election against
Palin. It'd keep everyone enthralled.
But Clinton would have a better chance. Obama is starting to look
like a Mr Dud, firing blanks, don't you think?
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 2:07AM
I've been saying to friends for a year that the Obama future
depends on the 2010 elections. There is the Carter model and the
Clinton model. Carter retained congress in 78 and lost his
re-election bid. Clinton lost congress and was re-elected.
The difference is that a president who is opposed by congress
can't get his agenda done. Whenever there is gridlock in DC the
country thrives. The economy prospers when nothing happens in
Washington. When Washington is active the economy freezes,
waiting for the fallout of new legislation. That is what we are
living through right now.
When the government is inactive, no matter what the laws are (to
a degree), the American economy will find a way to prosper. Just
give us the rules and we will play the game.
When the rules are in doubt, as they are now big time, the
economy can't move. The Obama administration and Congress are
killing the current economy, simply by threatening all of the
rules. Nobody knows what to do, how to act, what decisions should
be made.
The solution to all of the economic problems is to simply adjourn
Congress indefinately. The rest of us will figure it all out.
The free market is uncannily brilliant. Without explanation.
Congress is predictably stupid. With 2000 pages of explanation.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:36AM
From Ziegler's article:
"The main reason that Keene has gotten away with his shenanigans
(at least until now) is that members of the conservative media
are essentially bought off. Sadly and pathetically, it seems
almost no one (expect maybe me) has been willing to give up a
position on a panel or an invite to a party in order to expose
the inherently corrupt nature of CPAC."
Hillyer?
producer| 1.9.10 @ 5:33AM
she is a blathering idiot and she proves it every single time she
opens her mouth. in both content and manner. please god, please,
let her be the 2012 repub nominee. that would be the absolute
best gift democrats could ever hope for. all of you, keep it up
and keep her out front - she is the fabulous gift that keeps on
giving.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:31AM
Yep, Sarah is a laughing stock, has no chance at all, and will
take the Rethugs with her when she falls.
Here's an idea. Why don't you get a group of Democrat donors
together and kick in a little cash to her campaign so the Rethugs
will fail!!
Do it for the children.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 10:19PM
Hey, producer, it's BLITHERING not blathering, you blithering
idiot.
Our schools stink--of course they're dominated by liberals. God
help us.
…of issues which are apparently not palatable to the Huffington Faithful. Over on the “R” side of the aisle, the reliably conservative American Spectator is telling Sarah Palin to “ get over herself.” Palin has apparently raised some hackles by passing on CPAC this year and just generally messing up the destiny of the GOP for 2012. In New York, MS-NBC political analyst and former…
that's what she said| 1.9.10 @ 8:54AM
Palin is a whack job.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 12:48PM
Then don't worry about what she is up to, since you have no
reason to. Right?
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 9:16AM
For the late arrivals: Here is the link to the video of John
Ziegler's ... action-packed interview of David Keene at Western
CPAC.
Watch the video and make up your own mind as to the credibility
of the original article, and its author. Ask yourself if Sarah
Palin (or any other serious candidate) is well-served by
appearing at CPAC.
The link will play all 3 short videos in succession:
I do not care who/what she dishes, ignores, humiliates, gives the
finger to,etc. I only hope and pray that, if she runs and is
elected in 2012, that whe will pick up the PRESIDENTIAL VETO PEN
and begin to use it to eliminate the millions of taxpayer dollars
that are flushed down the federal coffers for the thousands of
worthless, useless and asinine programs that are currently on
their ledger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank goodness somebody here has finally seen the light regarding
Sarah Palin's commitment to her own self-interest to the
detriment of the Republican party and conservatives. She will
never miss an event where she can collect a dollar. The Bowling
Convention? Give me a break.
IT’S ALL ABOUT SHE
(sung to the Harry Connick Jr. version of the song “It Had to Be
You”)
It’s all about she
Who cares about you?
Her parents are clowns and poor Trig has downs
Oh, what will they do?
Palin and her crew
Say things so untrue
Health reform is bad, just ask her dad
They haven’t a clue
Is Sarah just mean?
Brain small like a bean?
She’s always so cross
But nobody’s boss
What’s with that hairdo?
Won’t have health reform if there’s a bill
You can shove your damn living will
It’s all about she, who cares about you?
She hasn’t a clue
(instrumental break)
Obama it seems
Might fulfill our dreams
Drive down health care costs
Republican loss
What will Palin do?
Keep her health plan if she likes it still
Who the hell needs a living will?
I certainly do, how about you?
I bet you do too
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 2:55PM
Lynnrockets said: "Her parents are clowns and poor Trig has
downs"
You're an evil and desperate person.
Karma's going to be a bit-ch.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.9.10 @ 10:22PM
Karma's not the only b!tch here, Tenn; Sprockets is a vile piece
of scum from way back.
Sarah Palin for President!
THE HARD TRUTH ABOUT LIBS| 1.9.10 @ 10:54PM
Lynn hates Sarah because Sarah's so beautiful. Sarah's a REAL
woman.
Liberal women like Lynn , KarenJ, Laura, etc. have had multiple
abortions and are embittered and lonely because of their
"choices." They hate Sarah because they can't be Sarah.
Piteous, wrinkled hags; no one loves you and no one cares about
you. You are invisible.
Tennessean1942 called KarenJ " a liar" twice and then described
how he believes she masturbates.
You best be careful of that karma yourself.
SAME OLD LAME WHINE
(sung to the Dan Fogelberg song “Same Auld Lang Syne”)
Met Sarah Palin at a Walmart store
She was shoplifting like a thief
There was no sign of kids or the “First Dude”
‘Cuz Sarah brings home the beef
I recoiled from her aging face at first
But then her eyes flew open wide
She knew I saw the moose meat in her purse
And then she just fibbed and lied
I said I was not a security man
And then Sarah Palin was glad
She lacked any sense of embarrassment
At the thought that she was bagged
I asked if we could have a drink or two
Cuz she was such a rising star
We met “Joe Sixpack” at the liquor store
And we three went to a bar
We drank a toast to ignorance
We drank a toast to Mao
She tried to explain her head’s emptiness
But she did not know how
She said she’s married to a derelict
Who can’t keep a job if he tried
She would have like to say she loved the man
But she couldn’t stand the guy
I said “death panels” were the end for her
That she could turn a Red-State Blue
And did she fear her would-be son-in-law?
She just said, “Lynn, F_ _ _ you”
She said she hated all the pro-choice whores
And that she hoped they’d go to Hell
I asked if Coulter was a “he” or “she”?
Palin said she could not tell
She toasted her omnipotence
And asked us all to bow
I said, “so long and good riddance,
I must be leaving now”
Then one last toast to ignorance
Cuz it was closing time
She lacks a sense of eloquence
But has that old lame whine
The beers were empty and our tongues were tired
Another book signing today
She put her hat on and hopped on her broom
And I watched her fly away
She graduated from a “safety school”
So she has no-one else to blame
There’s no intelligence inside her dome
That’s why she is so lame.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 10:26PM
Settle down, Sprockets! Old Madcow KarenJ started with the vile
name calling--she just got a little back.
Good for the old fat fatty--keeps her spry. Now, if she would
just take a shower. Please!!
Hellian| 1.9.10 @ 8:13PM
she did not write the darn things every one with a sense or who
has heard her speak knows that someone else writes those articles
.I am very good friends with a Paul supporter and he hates palin
has nothing good to say about her.IMO she speaks for no one but
herself and if calling me a troll floats your boat go for it .But
if ya used your mind that God gave ya and fact check and googled
things ya would know the truth or at least come as close to it as
ya can.As for palins book yes I read it.To me it sounded like it
was a book all about getting even with everyone and anyone who
she did not care for.It IMO belongs in the fiction section.All
the people that have come out about what a sham she was can't all
be wrong no matter what you want to believe.The troll is saying
good night to all you Jim Jones followers LOL
hellian| 1.9.10 @ 8:16PM
this troll forgot one thing she did not use her veto pen to stop
all the pork that her people brought to Alaska.now did she Like
the bridge to nowhere that she was for than claimed to be against
but kept all the money even though her state was flush with so
called oil money ever thought maybe that is one reason why some
prices are high??????
I applaud your willingness to engage with Sarah's active and
engaged base.
But you have to realize Palin's fans are set and feel any money
spent to hear her pearls of wisdom is money well spent.
My thinking is the Americans who can afford to do this type of
extracurricular stuff (travel to attend Teabagger rallies, buy
books) must be doing very well under the current economy. Their
mortgages must be paid, their kids college funds set and they
have EXCELLENT health care and insurance for them to have the
funds to support an unemployed grandmother from Wasilla.
So their complaints about the direction of the country are odd
given how they are able to support Ms. Palin with money.
Leave them alone. This is the best time of their lives.
I hope you guys remember to thank the POTUS for all your
prosperity and freedom!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.9.10 @ 10:42PM
Thank Obama for what, DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT and USA
BANKRUPTCY? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
DEATH PANELS (thanks, Sarah!) FOR ALL? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
FREEDOM? You mean the freedom to get blown out of the sky flying
to see grandma? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
We'll be lucky if we survive until PRESIDENT PALIN is sworn
in--January, 2013.
You incompetent fools are in way over your heads. FACT: DEMOCRATS
CAN'T GOVERN!
We're even beating you in Massachusetts!! Teddy's old Senate
seat. It's gonna be a Democrat bloodbath in 2010!
Can't wait, save the date--11/02/10!!
National Democrat Pink Slip Day!
Fire all the Democrat skunks!
@ Margie:
Are you kidding? Are you really relying upon a video by someone
known as "Pajamas TV" to get your information. Right from the get
go the video misleads its audience by only pointing out the
ethics complaints against Palin which were dismissed and by
failing to even mention the existence of ethics complaints that
were substantiated.
You really should find a better source for your information.
NOBAMA| 1.10.10 @ 2:08AM
Sprockets, you're such a loser--irrelevant, actually.
You dumb libs have over-reached and screwed the pooch! The
American people are fit to be tied and we're going to throw you
morons out on your cans come November.
YES WE CAN!! LOL!! We HOPE to CHANGE congress and POTUS as soon
as we can.
Incompetent, arrogant fascists; you don't know your butts from
holes in the ground. Why did anyone vote for your Rogue's Gallery
of freaks, misfits, liars, thieves, Marxists, Communists and
pedophiles?
Soon, we'll elect some decent, honorable Conservative leaders to
clean up the disgusting mess you've made.
Human garbage is what you are.
Margie| 1.10.10 @ 2:00PM
What, like Huffington Post where you must reside?
BTW smarty pants, since you pretend to be so honest and
knowledgeable, can you tell us exactly what the ethics charges
are that are remaining? We'll be waiting....
Ask and ye shall receive:
1. July 28, 2008: Alaska lawmakers launched an investigation into
whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public
Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a
state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin's
sister. Stephen Branchflower, a special counsel leading the
investigation, concluded Oct. 10 that Palin violated a state
ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their
office for personal gain. The firing itself was deemed lawful
since Monegan was an at-will employee.
2. Oct. 24, 2008: Complaint contended Palin abused her power by
charging the state when her children traveled with her. The
personnel board found no wrongdoing, but in a Feb. 23 settlement
Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $10,000 for costs
associated with 10 trips found to be of questionable state
interest among 72 travel authorizations studied. The money is due
to the state on Tuesday.
3. Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin's top
aides misused their official positions for Palin's personal and
political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill
McAllister and Kris Perry -- director of the governor's Anchorage
office -- worked on state time to benefit Palin's interests
during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.
4. Contends Palin is misusing the governor's office for personal
gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper
gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently
established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than
$500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints,
including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident,
Kim Chatman. Pending.
Ask and ye shall receive:
1. July 28, 2008: Alaska lawmakers launched an investigation into
whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public
Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a
state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin's
sister. Stephen Branchflower, a special counsel leading the
investigation, concluded Oct. 10 that Palin violated a state
ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their
office for personal gain. The firing itself was deemed lawful
since Monegan was an at-will employee.
2. Oct. 24, 2008: Complaint contended Palin abused her power by
charging the state when her children traveled with her. The
personnel board found no wrongdoing, but in a Feb. 23 settlement
Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $10,000 for costs
associated with 10 trips found to be of questionable state
interest among 72 travel authorizations studied. The money is due
to the state on Tuesday.
3. Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin's top
aides misused their official positions for Palin's personal and
political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill
McAllister and Kris Perry -- director of the governor's Anchorage
office -- worked on state time to benefit Palin's interests
during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.
4. Contends Palin is misusing the governor's office for personal
gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper
gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently
established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than
$500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints,
including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident,
Kim Chatman. Pending.
Sorry about double posting, but why would you say that I falsely
accused her of anything? Those ethics violations are legitimate
and/or still pending. Please face the facts.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.16.10 @ 6:18PM
You liberals can't help but lie. NONE of those ethics complaints
was legit and everyone knows it. They've been dismissed.
Keep beating a dead horse, moron; but look around, you democrats
are getting your ample azzes handed to you all over the country,
including blue states.
Better watch it, you corrupt thugs are going to cease to exist.
The American people are tired of the democrat cesspool tactics
and corruption.
This week’s edition of “Matches Made In Heaven” features Sarah
Palin and the Teabaggers. The educationally challenged former
ex-quitting governor of Alaska has been selected to be the
keynote speaker at the First Annual National Tea Party Convention
which will be held in Nashville in February.
Imagine the many misspelled and unintelligible signs, placards
and t-shirts that are certain to be on display.
The event should resemble an outtake from the film, “Night Of The
Living Dead“. Imagine all the drool, head scratching and
confusion as the conventioneers tackle such difficult tasks as
finding the bathrooms and remembering their hotel room numbers.
They will rail against socialized programs as they fight to
defend their socialized Medicare benefits. They will miss work
and lose wages as they fight for tax cuts for their bosses.
Eventually, Palin will deliver the closing speech in which she is
certain to try to explain the fiction of “death panels” and why
she cannot remember Joe Biden’s name. Finally Glenn Beck will
take to the stage and announce that the attendance was greater
than twenty million. This is the stuff of which comedians dream.
For more on Sarah Palin’s stupidity, do not forget to watch 60
Minutes tomorrow night. John McCain campaign manager, Steve
Schmidt will dissect and analyze the lying Palin’s “debacle of
historic and epic proportions”. Oh boy, get out your popcorn for
this one. The segment will be without opposition because Palin is
incapable of appearing on a show like 60 Minutes. She makes a
fool of herself every time she attempts to be interviewed and
therefore she avoids the true news shows.
THE BALLAD OF SARAH AND LEVI
(Sung to the Beatles song “The Ballad of John and Yoko”)
Posing in a condo in New York,
Levi about to remove his pants
He now has a knack
To annoy SarahPAC
Yet most of them will still take a glance
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be,
To play second fiddle,
To the Caribou-Barbie.
Sarah claims that she is embarrassed
Really, she just envies his fame
Katie Couric did say,
“Can you pray away gay?”
“And can you point out some newspapers by name?”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
Those interviews on TV.
Reviews were not glowing
For the brain-dead Sarah P.
Levi’s camped-out in the Manhattan Hilton,
Media folks want him to speak
The newspapers said,
“What’s going on in your head?”
He said, “I think Sarah just wants a quick peek”
Christ you know she’s so sleazy,
She won’t speak without a fee
The next show she’s doing
Will be with Sean Hannity
Keeping every penny of per-diem pay,
Lying about clothes to charity,
Daughter that’s unwed,
Is someone inbred?
Her chance to win election, pretty low – Think!
Relatives all getting arrested.
Family dignity in free-fall.
McCain’s folks still claim,
“Palin was to blame”
But Sarah says that they dropped the ball
Christ you know she’s so sleazy
She lies so effortlessly
But Levi is going,
To crucify Sarah P.
How did Mac choose Sarah to begin with?
She is just a political hack.
A dumb “hockey mom”,
That can’t think and chew gum.
Why didn’t he select “Joe Sixpack?”
Christ she makes us uneasy.
In Yiddish we say, “Oy Vey.”
We’d love to replace her
With our good friend, Tina Fey.
We’d love to replace her
With our good friend, Tina Fey.
ZerObama| 1.10.10 @ 2:12AM
Braindead libturd, it's only a matter of time before you losers
are thrown out of office.
Love it when Palin is sworn in as POTUS--January, 2013. Save the
date dummocrap.
Rick451| 1.10.10 @ 2:41AM
Petty? More like brilliant. You'll see.
Buster Brown| 1.10.10 @ 3:59AM
Don't worry, she's not going to the symposium now, either. It's
been canceled. But don't worry all you Palin fans, your $770
refunds are on the way. Honest...No, really. Watch your
mailboxes!
Is it any wonder that the Tea-Bagger bash has been canceled?
Their "Die-in" in Washington was an attendance disaster and they
cannot even define what their planned January 20th "strike" or
"boycott" is supposed to be. The good news is now Sarah Palin
will have lots of time to prepare for her paid speaking gig at
the Bowlers Convention.
RIGHT WING WORLD (DON’T KNOW MUCH)
(sung to the Sam Cooke song “Wonderful World”)
Don’t know much about geography
Don’t know much ecology
Don’t know much about that climate change
Don’t know why voters think I am strange
But I do know I love my shoes
And I really love my beehive ‘do
What a right wing world this should be
Don’t have much of an education
I know a lot about procreation
Opposition should have no voice
Pregnant women should have no choice
Yes, I do practice “politics of hate”
And I love to equivocate
What a right wing world this should be
Now I don’t claim that I can see Russia
From my living room bay
And I do not star on “Thirty Rock”, baby
That’s the talented Tina Fey
Don’t know much about interviews
Don’t know many Supreme Court views
Can’t name any books that I’ve read
Sure glad Bristol and Levi aren’t wed
But I do know my time is due
And I’ll be there in 2-0-1-2
What a right wing world this will be
And I do know you’ll love Sarah P.
We’ll be a nation of Scientology
What a right wing world this will be
Mr Hillyer,
There was a time, before the blogosphere, that CPAC was critical
to getting a message out to the base. That time is long gone. The
Internet and its blogs have done a sterling job since. Perhaps,
maybe, what if... Sarah Palin (and possibly others) see it as a
grand waste of time where the risks outweigh the benefits?
Look, I watched most of last year's CPAC and found it to be a
colossal WOT with respect to learning anything new. Limbaugh was
the best there, I thought, but he offered his standard fare.
Petty? Get over yourself? What, instead, if she's just getting
over CPAC? Is it a rebuff of Conservatives, or just a business
decision?
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!| 1.12.10 @ 11:37AM
GO SARAH!!
the405| 1.11.10 @ 12:20AM
NTPC is aligning itself with the birther movement by having
Joesph Farah speak on Friday night.
Yet the NTPC is barring all press from covering that and Palin's
speech.
Simple. Even the Tea-Baggers recognize that their positions are
so outside of the political mainstream that they are embarrassed
to have them see the light of day and/or to have them subjected
to public ridicule.
On another note, it was a hoot to watch 60 Minutes last night as
the Republicans continued to eat their young. It would appear
that Steve Schmidt may have finally plunged the final stake into
the blood-sucking thing that is Palin. She was portrayed by
Schmidt as a knowledgeless, lying schizophrenic.
I’VE JUST SEEN HER FACE
(sung to the Beatles song “I’ve Just Seen A Face”)
I’ve just seen her face,
I can’t forget the time or place
I’ll make a bet, she’s trolling for a fee
Palin wants all the world to see her jet
Na na na na na na
Unemployed and without pay
She lives her life the Palin way
With winking eyes and beehive hair
She’s an Alaskan “Mama Bear” alright !
Na na na na na na
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Sitting on her throne
With her intelligence on loan
The G.O.P. thinks she is out of sight
Their other girls were never quite like this
Na na na na na na
Crawling, an insect crawling
And she’s appalling to sober men
(musical interlude)
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
I’ve just seen her face
To folks like me it’s a disgrace
And better yet, I want the world to see
There is no place for Sarah P., you bet
Na na na na na na
Crawling, an insect crawling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Oh, falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:27PM
Whistling by the gravedyard, lib morons. Even your candidate for
Teddy's seat is in trouble!
The nasty old lady killer must be spinning in his grave!!
Old Harry has been caught with his racist pants down--"Obama the
light skinned negro." Damn, you libtards are racists--all of you.
LOL!!
Can't wait, save the date--November, 2010. We're gonna wipe the
floor with you morons.
It has been reported that Sarah Palin will only guest host on Fox
News. If she is popular enough they may give her a show of her
own. Perhaps it will be a new Fox game show such as…
“Wheel of Stupid”,
“Palin Family Feud”.
“Career In Jeopardy”,
“Neither Truth Nor Consequences” or
“Name That Magazine Or Newspaper”
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.13.10 @ 10:49PM
November 2, 2010 can't come soon enough. Throw the corrupt
democrat skunks out!!
Face reality, Sarah Palin will never be president.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.15.10 @ 2:16AM
Wanna bet, moron? We're even beating you losers in the old
pervert Kennedy's state!! The old lady killer must be spinning
like a top!!
Sarah could easily be POTUS the way your stupid, corrupt and
incompetent party is destroying the country.
You're going to see Palin become President of the United States
and you're going to love it. Ha!!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.24.10 @ 3:18AM
Hey, Sprockets, how'd you like the Massachusetts' election? MMM
MMM MMM!!!
Told you, loser.
lynnrockets| 1.24.10 @ 3:19AM
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012
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akw| 1.14.10 @ 1:41PM
IF that is what happened). If that is what happened -- and again,
I do NOT know the circumstances, so there MAY be a legitimate
explanation -- then unless Palin had a really good reason, she
did effectively "diss" not just Keene but the conservative
movement, in which case Keene would have been right to
complain.
~~~~~~~~~~~
I have an idea: before you write an entire column trashing Palin
for what you "suppose" are her reasons for everything, why don't
you do what an honest journalist does and TALK TO HER!!! Good
grief. Get over YOURSELF.
Danny| 1.15.10 @ 2:18AM
I agree, Quin's just jealous of Sarah's power. Good for
Sarah--reject corruption!
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what is factual versus merely expression of personal opinion.
Americans of all political persuasions can vigorously disagree
about what policies should be adopted -- or rejected -- but why
is it necessary to attack and vilify perceived opponents and
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mind. That said there are a lot of reasons people stick with
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Al Adab| 1.8.10 @ 10:39AM
Mr. Hillyer:
No hate mail from me, but is not our problem the proliferation of hyphenated Conservatives? We have neo-cons, paleo-cons, movement cons, fiscal cons, social cons, libertarians, birchers(actually didn't know they were still around) and now add Tea Party.
With the Conservative movement so fractured, and still a minority within its chosen instrument, the GOP, how can we ever reagain our influence? Can Palin play a role? Who else might we look for to give voice to common ground?
945call| 1.8.10 @ 3:37PM
Check the recent polls, 40% of Americans now call themselves Conservative, versus Liberal or Moderate, while only 35% call themselves Rebulblicans, versus Democrats or Non-Affiliated. If Conservatives are the minority in the GOP, it's not by much and if they are, the GOP would love to attract the very large remainder who are most likely Independent. A few might be Democrats but that group would be very small.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.8.10 @ 6:31PM
Go Sarah! Hope we can survive the next three years of the Obamination now in office.
carol Collins| 1.8.10 @ 7:06PM
believe Sara Palin has common sense to know what she needs to do to represent the Republican Party. She has made it clear that rebuilding the republican party from within is the goal. She represents republicans as a whole, not a section with its own agendas.
Jon Lester| 1.8.10 @ 10:55AM
I find her reasoning far from petty. The fact that the John Birch Society has anything to do with an event she attended would certainly be used against her in any future campaign. That association would have a negative impact with the average swing voter.
945call| 1.8.10 @ 3:31PM
I agree. It would be like someone attending a Tea Party with an Obama/Hitler sign.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:38AM
945call: "I agree. It would be like someone attending a Tea Party with an Obama/Hitler sign. "
Sad, but true. The Obama/Hitler sign probably spells political doom for anyone associated with the Teabagger movement.
Have you seen these signs?
http://tinyurl.com/5pjuw
http://tinyurl.com/5futjy
akw| 1.14.10 @ 1:44PM
The Obama Hitler signs are being carried by
La rouche people - Democrats. Check his website - they sell them there. They show up at all Tea Parties and Town Halls, and everyone thinks they're GOP, but they're not, by a LONG SHOT.
Smitty| 1.16.10 @ 6:01PM
It's Nazi Pelousy who accused the Tea Partiers of being Nazis. She would know.
Kyle| 1.8.10 @ 3:50PM
Speaking at CPAC would hurt her but quitting as gov wouldn't? Face it, she wants $100,000 to speak at the Tea Party conference. Meanwhile, CPAC pays nothing. So guess what her motivation is.
Mike Bruno| 1.8.10 @ 4:01PM
Even Andy Barr said she will get between 37 and 50 thousand and debunked this 1oo k rumor. Liberals just won't give it up.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:43PM
You don't get it, do you? The point is, she should be speaking FOR FREE.
These are teabaggers, not moneybag-elites -- aren't they? Don't teabaggers have a problem with people demanding that much money for a speech, especially when it's paid ultimately by them, "the little people", the teabagger "base"?
O'Sarah has a PAC she can get funds from, to get to the teabagger convention, and to cover her expenses -- she has had her attorney formulate several different avenues to do this.
So, whether it's $37K, $50K, or $100K -- O'Sarah doesn't need to pick teabaggers' pockets to give a speech to them.
Mike Packer| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
OOOOOOH, just learn a new word? Teabagger? Maybe next week learn to use it twice in each sentence. Get over your fascination with that specific act... Unless of course it is something YOU enjoy so much..
James| 1.8.10 @ 5:20PM
KarenJ is a liberal nutjob from mudflats blog.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:24PM
No, I'm not. I'm a registered Independent. I don't march in lockstep with 'Bots, like the ones I've seen on C4P and TeamSarah, and I abhor everything Sarah Palin stands for -- if anyone can pin down just WHAT it is she stands for. She changes her mind every week, it seems.
And hey, YOU guys invented the term "teabagger". We on the "other side" are still laughing because you all didn't realize the urban dictionary meaning of the word. That's why we keep using it, to make fun of the goofs who decided to use that name for their movement.
slayer| 1.8.10 @ 6:40PM
Palin stands for God, Guns, American Oil, Strong Defense, No Illegal Immigration, Less Government, Less Taxes, Less Abortion.
Palin does not need the Conservative movement, the Conservative movement needs her.
You stupid Liberals (and you ARE stupid for voting in this disaster) need to forget about Palin and focus on President B+ and his out of control spending, atrocious foreign policy, double digit unemployment, 12 trillion dollar deficit, record bank failures, record business failures, disasterous TARP bill, and a golf record in his first nine months that beat Bush's over three years.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:11PM
LESS abortion? I thought she was "pro life"! As in "no abortion". None. Not even for rape or incest.
Well, President Obama is one up on our previous president; Bush didn't get through his first year without a disaster -- Obama has averted several, including a whole bunch Bush handed him (including 95% of the deficit you mention). I expected it'd cost a lot of money to fix these problems. Did you think it was going to be FREE?
But Bush beat Obama in one thing -- he was on vacation in August 2001 when he was warned Osama Bin Laden was planning an attack on US soil (voila! it happened the next month. Perhaps BECAUSE Bush did nothing when he was told that information?)
Obama waited until December of his first year in office before HE took a vacation.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 3:01AM
Wrong, Madcow KarenJ--Obama took at least a week off 6 months ago during the summer. Martha's Vineyard, as I recall. Teddy Kennedy died about that time.
Not so smart Madcow KarenJ the liar.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:13PM
Oh, one other thing -- you can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, like calling others "stupid". Why don't you just let the adults talk?
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:16PM
If the shoe fits......
Mondo| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
KarenJ,
Teabaggers?
Hey baby, that's hot! Let's you and me take the first Cleveland Steamer out of here! When we get to Cincinnati, you can get me a bowtie. Actually, I'll just watch. Stay cool. Y' hear?
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 5:56PM
I don't know, Mondo--if you're gonna hook up with Karen you'd better protect yourself and make sure she gets an STD workup done on her first. Never know where those liberals girls have been.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious innuendo, and four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:46PM
You descended into personal insults first, Karen. Not only are you a liar, you're a hypocrite as well.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:19PM
Contrary to YOUR opinion, Janice, Sarah Palin, or O'Sarah, as we now like to call her, is fair game for insults.
Teabagger is not an insult; teabaggers started calling themselves that. Too bad they didn't realize what it really meant.
'Bots? OK, I guess that's insulting. No one likes to be likened to a robot. But if the 'Bots wouldn't parrot those talking points they get from Redstate or Townhall or Freep over and over and OVER again, without a scintilla of thought seeming to drift through....
Gosh, my bad. Mea culpa, I didn't realize all of you neocons HERE thought of yourselves as teabaggers and 'Bots.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:24PM
On and on it goes. The moronic double standards and poor me victimization. Listen up fool. Anderson Cooper 180 started the little perverted Teabagger tag as a sick joke on the air of CNN, then it went viral among the rest of the jerks on the other cable shows. Andy had to apologize for it later, but the goal was accomplished. The activists themselves have always identified themselves with the Boston Tea Party from American history, if you will recall.
Not that you would care, it doesn't fit your liar agenda.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:52PM
KarenJ sez: "Teabagger is not an insult; teabaggers started calling themselves that."
Liar. Prove it.
KarenJ| 1.9.10 @ 6:03PM
Technically, they were saying and printing up signs saying "Teabag Obama before he teabags you".
Mediate.com reports this: In a press release touting “unfriend” as the word of the year, the New Oxford American Dictionary may have unwittingly made a more controversial move than the New Oxford American Dictionary pretty much ever does.
No, it wasn’t another cutesy tech neologism: they included “teabagger” as one of their Word of the Year finalists.
According to the release, they define “teabagger” as “a person who protests President Obama’s tax policies and stimulus package, often through local demonstrations known as ‘Tea Party’ protests (in allusion to the Boston Tea Party of 1773).”
Their definition doesn’t touch upon any of the raunchier, more testicular connotations of the word, which Keith Olbermann and Anderson Cooper had a lot of fun with in April. Cooper can take a lot of credit for the popularization of the phrase: in response to David Gergen’s questions about the Republican Party’s abilities to organize and articulate a message, Cooper infamously quipped, “It’s hard to talk when you’re teabagging.”‘
Lest anyone too quickly accuse the New Oxford American Dictionary crowd of insidious liberal bias, it’s worth pointing out that “Obamanation,” “Obamamessiah,” “Obamacles,” and “Obamalypse” were highlighted as notable words./i>
Us progressives/independents and liberals got a laugh out of "teabaggers", and some of you neocons got a laugh out of all your Obama alliterations, and some of the horrible things some of you say and photoshop about Michelle Obama and the two children.
I find YOUR lies and nastiness far more corrosive than anything I've said here.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:25PM
Yes, Madcow KarenJ--it's Booosh's fault. We knew you'd get around to it.
Admit, it; you got called out for STARTING the name calling and smut talking on this blog.
Instead of apologizing for your vile remarks and nasty disposition you try to deny the obvious and then proceed with the typical liberal whining and moaning that define you leftist fools. Poor widdle KarenJ.
We accept your apology anyway.
Looks like you liberals can dish it out, but can't take it.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:20PM
Isn't this hilarious? No one can call this woman any opinion expressing names or labels, while she goes on and on calling Sarah Palin every single derogatory name she can think of, and insulting her family, and anyone who would support anything she has said, or believes in the Tea Party movement(it is not Teabaggers idiot, that came from Anderson Cooper 180).
Such compassion and understanding from a kind hearted soul. Ha!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Karen is a liar and a hypocrite with a foul mouth.
The more she spews her hatred for Sarah, the more we support Sarah. Not so smart, Karen.
KarenJ| 1.9.10 @ 6:07PM
None of us progressive/independents are trying to change YOUR mind about Sarah Palin. What we have to say isn't for YOUR consumption anyway. It's for the first-time visitor here who hasn't been swayed either one way or the other about Sarah Palin -- and I'd bet that those people find YOUR methods of communication far more acidic and off-putting than the fact-checked information Laura, Jack and others including me have posted here in support of Quin Hillyer's blog entry.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:31PM
YOUR FIRST POST STARTED the smutty name-calling, KarenJ; every blogger can see that. You deserved whatever was thrown back in your face. Grow up!
Don't try to weasel out of it.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
Baloney. This isn't a money issue; Sarah's just made millions from her book.
Your comment says more about you than Palin.
0whole1| 1.8.10 @ 4:56PM
She made millions from her book, and in February she will make tens of thousands from her 'bagger chat, and no doubt there'll be other rubes lining up to have their pockets picked by her in the future.
The "millions for her book" was a green light, not a red. Free market, and all that, right? Putting the breaks on squeezing folks kinda smacks of....what's the word I'm looking for here....
Oh yeah. Socialism.
Mondo| 1.8.10 @ 5:25PM
owhole1,
"capitalism" is asking whether they want to pay to hear Palin speak.
"Socialism" is when the government takes your money and gives it to someone else so they can listen--but they're gonna take your money either way.
Amanda| 1.8.10 @ 6:21PM
Socialism is when the government takes your money and pays Lewis Farakhan thousands of dollars to speak at your child's college. My daughter is 40 years old now....this indoctrination has been going on for a long time.
Capitalism is Sarah Palin speaking at wherever
she wants at whatever price she wants. The liberals have no problem with Al Gore making
billions off the global warming scam.
slayer| 1.8.10 @ 6:42PM
And the Liberals have no problem with both ghostwritten books from President B+ either.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village has lost its idiot.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
Socialism is what the State of Alaska and Sarah Palin when she was Governor practiced freely. They taxed the oil companies who did the "heavy lifting" researching, drilling, and moving Alaska oil, then distributed the proceeds of those taxes to every Alaska resident every year, ever since the Alaska oil fields opened up.
Now, if Alaska law directed that the money from those oil company taxes went into a general fund, and was used for state infrastructure, social programs, development, etc., then Alaska might not have to get twice as much money back from the Federal Government (the rest of us US taxpayers) as the state pays to the Feds.
In other words, Alaska is both a welfare state and a socialist state. It's like a little pig, suckling for the past 50 years and the damned thing won't grow up so we can make it into hams and bacon. Maybe Alaska secession wouldn't be such a bad thing -- for the rest of us.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:38PM
What a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance that comment is. Good grief.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:49PM
Karen's a hater, what can I say? No matter, all the liberal lies in the world can't stop Palin.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:22PM
No, you're a hater. You hate what you term as liberals (they're only 17% of the electorate, a nearly insignificant voting block).
It seems more like you hate anyone who disagrees with you.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Stop it, we are not fools. You are a liberal. You use all the approved buzzwords, have all the right attitudes, and despise all the right people.
Give me a break.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:30PM
Yes, Karen the smut mouth is a hater who can't hold a candle to Sarah Palin. Envy is an ugly trait, Karen--you're pathetic.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:25PM
Prove it. Give me some facts that prove otherwise.
My first paragraph is true; my second paragraph is true; my third paragraph is my opinion.
And PLEASE don't parrot something Sarah Palin said. Nearly everything she has ever said has been debunked.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:29PM
Nearly everything Sarah Palin has said has been debunked, but you are a shining beacon of honest opinion and integrity? Laughable. You are a venomous viper of obsessive hatred, and you quite frankly are making me sick.
PatM| 1.9.10 @ 1:14AM
Uh, actually, Karen is quite correct. Maybe you could research the subject.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:54AM
And you're an expert why? Maybe you could provide some proof, troll.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:18PM
Karen, What is ACES? Where do you think the extra money from these oil companies now go?
How was Sarah able to put 4 billion dollars away for a rainy day? Who owes the resources in Alaska? Where does Alaska get their money to run the state government? What is the CBC? Who dismantle the CBC?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:21PM
Karen, The people here are not stupid. The money from the oil companies does fund roads, schools, health,...and on and on. So stop acting so stupid.
winger2| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
Sound like you hate her because she has more guts than you. Should be "A..hole1". Jealousy will get you nothing, and that is exactly what your comment was NOTHING!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:26PM
Do you want to see me write my litany about what right wing neocons say when they are at a loss for words? It has something to do with playground insults.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:33PM
Karen, don't you get it? The more you bleat your vicious lies and petty gossip about Governor Palin, the more we LOVE her!! You are helping Governor Palin become the next president of the United States! Thank you.
I love it.
PatM| 1.9.10 @ 1:18AM
Mrs. Palin will never be the President of the United States.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:48AM
Wanna bet, troll? Cause for damn sure, Myth Romney will never be.
liberal| 1.9.10 @ 8:48AM
which is a good thing for the united states. whew.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:35PM
If we even have a country left after the incompetent moron in the White House gets done with it.
Bankrupt or blown to bits--which will happen first?
God help us!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:58PM
Karen, my guess is that you might find far fewer true 'neo-cons' here than you would expect. Try reading up on what a neo-con is, before you are laughed out of the room.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:47AM
Too late, Tenn; MadCow has already been laughed off the blog.
wayne| 1.8.10 @ 4:46PM
I am not a screaming Sarah fan. There are some odd things that go on around her and I am not entirely comfortable with certain things she has said - Alaska is a weird and very libertarian place so a lot can be attributed to that alone.
That being said, I wish that someone influential would come out with a more fair assessment of why she left as Governor. Everyone just accepts that it was cowardice, arrogance, or both.
The fact is Alaska law like its people is extremely libertarian. It gives huge precedence to the little person taking on the powerful. Every lawsuit and charge by a citizen leveled against a public official has to be dealt with seriously and examined officially at length.
I actually give Sarah Palin credit for resigning when she realized that she was utterly incapable of continuing to perform as governor due to spending almost every waking minute closeted with lawyers giving depositions and fielding legal charges by other hostile members of the state government.
That she took her duties to the people who elected her seriously and resigned when she could no longer perform them was an admirable act. Too bad people like Teddy "the alcoholic Killer" Kennedy, the Clinton's, Chris "Special Favors" Dodd, and Charlie "Property Taxes?" Rengel, and Jack "Kickback" Murtha don't ahve aa similar sense of duty.
A number of groups funded by Democratic/Progressive groups with very deep pockets were using Alaska's laws to not only ruin her character and political future but to create a public impression helped by Ted Stevens issues that the entire Republican establishment in Alaska was totally corrupt and needed to be replaced with Democrats.
In resigning she allowed a non-controversial Republican to take over and removed herself to a place where Alaska law would no longer be used to stop the process of Alaska government and allow her to continue to be involved in politics (instead of uselessly living with lawyers 24/7).
ronw| 1.8.10 @ 4:57PM
Amen. Recall too that she had to pay all her legal bills herself -- personally. That was before the money started rolling in from the book. Being elected Governor should n0t include the obligation to go broke.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 5:09PM
Sorry, but I don't vote for quitters. Why did Palin allow herself to get in such a governing morass; why couldn't she handle the job? It's not rocket science. If she was innocent of all the violations, she could have fought and won. I want a strong leader, not a quitter.
Palin for President 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 5:58PM
Who asked you, loser?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:35PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:40PM
Unlike you, so compassionate and understanding, getting along with others so well.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:51PM
Yeah, Karen, no stranger to foul mouthed blogging you. You're the real teabagger here.
Hypocrite.
kelly| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
So your "teabagger" comment wasn't a personal insult or salacious innuendo??
Um....okay.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:35PM
Karen tucks tail and runs when she's confronted with the truth. Typical troll.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:01PM
Jack sez: "Sorry, but I don't vote for quitters."
But we NEED you, Jack!! Please reconsider!!!!
Charlie| 1.8.10 @ 10:41PM
Jack she did fight and win every one of the allegations but she still had to pay her lawyer fees. and some slimy, liberals just kept making unfounded charges against her. She was winning them all but it was taking up all her time and resources. In Alaska the state doesn't pay elected officials lawyer fees. That you call her a quitter shows you know nothing about why she did what she did.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:29AM
Wrong. She did not "win" the Troopergate allegation; the Branchflower Report found that she was guilty of Abuse of Power. Watch 60 Minutes on Sunday night to hear Steve Schmidt say the same thing.
I have been considering Palin among other candidates, but I am shocked to learn that even as a merely casual political observer, I am more in command of the facts about Palin's record than her "Team."
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:45AM
Liar Romneybot--she never bankrupted her state like Myth Romney did. Nice record, RINO.
annieOK| 1.9.10 @ 9:08AM
Jack, have you ever had to fight a lawsuit that was directed at you, and you were totally innocent? Someone in my family had to do that a couple of years ago; they are still in a deep financial hole. Through absolutely NO fault of their own, they had to spend all the savings they had accumulated over a lifetime and borrow some more to clear their name and protect themselves. They were exonerated, as they should have been, but the financial, emotional, and TIME costs were horrible. Going through that just the one time was life-altering, and I can't imagine what it would be like to face that continuously, when as soon as one is finished, up pops another one.
She did the morally and fiscally correct thing by removing herself as a target, for both her family and her state.
J. Fred Smug| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
oh, BOO EFFING HOO. You do realize that the most expensive ethics claim was the one which Sarah Palin filed AGAINST HERSELF, don't you?
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2.....t-herself/
http://emptywheel.firedoglake......al-record/
Why do FACTS always seem to take a vacation whenever Palin's adoring fan base blindly sing her praises? PATHETIC.
serena1313| 1.9.10 @ 4:39AM
You should talk to the people ... who actually live in Alaska. Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, but not the facts.
The fact is Sarah did not quit because she couldn't perform her duties as governor due to the law suits. Sarah quit for some other reason, what it is no one seems to know for sure.
There is an argument to made: Alaska has a law that says officials cannot accept monetary proceeds from any outside source while in office. Quitting was the only way she could collect the $5 million for her book not to mention the 6-figure speaking fees. With greener pastures ahead, much more money to be had, places to go and thousands of adoring fans to see, Sarah took-off running.
Insofar as her legal bills ... they've been paid ... by her loyal followers who generously gave up their hard-earned money. And Sarah continues to ask for contributions to SarahPAC.
One of the ethics violations Sarah filed herself. Not all have been dismissed some are still pending.
Talk to the folks in Alaska, you might learn something. You may not like it, but facts are facts. You can either deny or accept them, but you cannot change them.
liberal| 1.9.10 @ 8:50AM
i think i know why she quit, or at least the single biggest reason: $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:39PM
Of course, a materialistic, cynical liberal would think it's all about money because that's all you corrupt democrats care about. Money and power.
At least Sarah earns her own money instead of stealing it from us like you leftist losers.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 10:54AM
serena1313, your facts are wrong. You might be the one who needs to learn something about this.
There is a legal defense trust set up for Sarah Palin's legal bills by a close friend of hers in Alaska, it's called the Alaska Fund Trust. This was where the donations for legal fees went.
Guess what? The fund itself was attacked with ethics complaints on the premise that the Governor could be influenced to corruption by thousands of people all over America who sent contributions of $20-$50, with an upper limit of $150. So, the fund trust was legally frozen by the very same few ankle biting complaint filers that made it neccessary to begin with, proving that this effort was never about good government, but personally bankrupting the family of a politician these people disagree with and are threatened by.
There have been no transfers of money out of that fund to this day.
You don't know what the heck you are talking about.
Tam| 1.9.10 @ 5:34PM
Have you seen any financial reporting out of the AFT? Please provide a link, it would help very much!
checktothepower| 1.8.10 @ 10:58AM
I agree with Palin,enough said.
bluecollarbytes| 1.8.10 @ 10:59AM
....as though personal conflicts between political allies haven't been around like forever.
I would prefer that ALL politicians "get over themselves' already.
I understand if Sarah Palin is somewhat reluctant to simply embrace Party establishment types at a time when there is so much uncertainty as to whether true conservatism is its fundamental goal.
Jeff| 1.8.10 @ 11:03AM
When you throw yourself on the cross of self pity in the first paragraph its kind of hard to read the rest of your post.
that said ... its appears to be just another Red on Red fragging post ...
I'm sure it will get picked up by the next WaPo article on the divsions in the GOP ... should help your sitemeter numbers ...
Why are you wasting ammunition of shooting at Palin over an internal GOP issue ?
Wouldn't it be better for conservatives if you wrote about ways the GOP and conservatives can stop Obamacare ?
Or do you think Palin attending CPAC is a strategy for that ?
I take it you have gotten over yourself and are attending CPAC like all of the other wise and smart conservatives.
chercast| 1.8.10 @ 11:07AM
Memo to Quinn Hilyer: Palin is making a high risk political move to reach out to independents to actually have a chance to get elected. She knows what she's doing. Get over it.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:47PM
I'm registered Independent. She's not reaching out to ME. She's reaching out to an entirely different, dissociative, disconnected, disinformed mob that's eager to follow a leader willing to take advantage of their amorphous anger. I'm old enough to remember how dangerous demogogues like that were in the past in this country.
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Karen your a known leftist from mudflats so stfu.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:36PM
Stop trying to take away my first amendment rights.
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:53PM
Hypocrite.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:31PM
Is that all you got?
Aw....you feel badly because you took "teabagger" and " 'Bot" personally? I'm sorry! That's MUCH worse than "unwashed", "fat", "ugly", "bitch", "c!nt", "stfu" "loser", "A..hole1"....
Janiceruthi| 1.8.10 @ 7:39PM
Poor widdle Karen, she the sweet, shining light of trolldom who flings her smut first and then cries and whines when confronted.
Whiny troll.
Sane Person| 1.8.10 @ 11:18PM
Janice-
There is something wrong with you. A wee bit "touched" maybe? You should really get some help.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:42AM
Sure, Sane person. Did you have to give yourself that name to convince yourself?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:04PM
KarenJ: "I'm registered Independent. She's not reaching out to ME."
We don't want you, Karen. We'll get by somehow.
Jeff| 1.8.10 @ 11:13AM
one other nit to pick ...
I assume you have worked in the business world. Have you ever sent a memo to your boss or someone higher up in the food chain ?
Didn't think so ... Your boss sends you memos ...
"Advice for Gov. Palin" would seem to be a more appropriate title.
You see, when people see your "attitude" they respond with attitude ... aka, hate mail ...
Leigh| 1.8.10 @ 11:14AM
"Keene certainly explained it to my satisfaction and to the satisfaction of most conservative bloggers."
So if he explained to you and some other unidentified "bloggers" the rest of us are just supposed to set aside our own opinions and judgements and "fall in line" with The Bloggers?
Sorry, but I'm done letting pundits and politicians tell me what to do, what to think, how to think, and who to support.
It's every man for himself now.
Grzmlyk| 1.8.10 @ 11:19AM
Yikes - Palin certainly ignites passions.
I will only say this - I'm rooting for her. I like her very much. I think she's bright, but not an intellectual - which is great, because I think intellectuals are solely responsible for destroying this country.
But: I need to see more from her. A lot of folks have coalesced around her, but I haven't seen the kind of leadership that Reagan exhibited from the 1960s on.
I'm NOT saying it's not there. I'm just saying I need to see more from her. this might have been a great platform for her.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:57AM
I think yours is one of the best posts of the evening. I agree. Have you read her book, by the way?
Also, a moratorium on Ivy League candidates for high office is an idea whose time has come .. :)
Pingback| 1.8.10 @ 11:21AM
Twitter Trackbacks for The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Memo to Palin: Get Over links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Francis Beckwith| 1.8.10 @ 11:26AM
Palin made the right decision. The Birchers are radioactive for someone like Palin.
My own view is that any conservative who speaks at CPAC ought to be as tainted with the Birchers as Kevin Jennings is tainted by NAMBLA (given his statements about Harry Hay).
Any potential presidential candidate who speaks at CPAC will never hear the end of the questions of "Why did you appear at a conference sponsored by a group that considers the Birchers mainstream?"
The ones that show up and speak at the conference are asking for it. Palin is smart. Remember what happened with her husband's affiliation with the loopy Alaskan Independence Party (or whatever they are called)? Palin knows better.
Red Phillips| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
Oh Dr. Beckwith you disappoint me. The Alaska Independence Party is "loopy?" The AIP, while not technically affiliated with the Constitution Party, has represented the state of Alaska at the Constitution Party National Convention the last two cycles (2004, 2008) (maybe longer?) and endorsed/gave ballot access for the Constitution Party nominee. Palin's husband's affiliation with the AIP and her willingness to address them and the Alaska Libertarian Party was one of the reasons (along with her past support of Buchanan and the nice things she had said about Ron Paul) some of us paleos had some hope for Palin before she sold out to the McCain campaign.
The AIP may be more conservative than you wish to go or think practical, but to call them "loopy" is a simple slur that is beneath a man of your stature and learning.
catina| 1.8.10 @ 11:29AM
PLEASE LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!!!!!!! I F SHE DOESN'T WANT TO COME SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SUCK UP UP TO A SCRAW POLL TO LOSE.
L. Ross| 1.8.10 @ 11:54AM
Catina, be careful when you use all caps. It makes it appear that you don't know when to capitalize you letters. Also, you may want to write your comments in a "Word" document, then cut and paste them here. That would prevent your poor spelling (scraw) from being evident.
T. Heath| 1.8.10 @ 12:13PM
Lighten up. You used the word "you" instead of "your".
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:38PM
LOL!
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.8.10 @ 11:36AM
Hi Quin.
I don't know Sarah's thinking on this.
I am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt.
I hope you will too.
Other than your "hook" of a title for your blog, I thought it was pretty good, and interesting.
You know, one thought...CPAC is pretty much an "ole' boys club." Maybe she didn't want to climb into that particular treehouse.
icarus| 1.8.10 @ 11:39AM
Palin doesn't attend CPAC because they don't pay her way and a (big) speaking fee.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 11:58AM
icarus, your wings are melting.
~Go Sarah!
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
Don't tell him, Margie! If we're lucky, he'll fly closer to the sun.
Palin 2012!
ctay| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
icarus, hmm why does that name ring a bell... Oh yes Charles Johnson Little Green Foolsballs....
(when Johnson went by the nickname "Icarus") hangs on his office wall.
http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....ull.column
Wings met sun, crashed and burned. It is Palin's choice to do what she wants. She is a private citizen now, under no obligation to anyone or any group. If you dont approve of her choices, then by all means if she runs for office dont vote for her. But as of now there has been absolutely no announcement that she will run for any office or that she owes any obligation or loyalty to any group.
Go Palin.
Atheists for Palin!
greg| 1.8.10 @ 11:42AM
Contrary to the impression you give everyone, David Keene has said some pretty bad things about Palin since the election. For that reason alone, I don't have any problem with her ditching his group altogether. Last year he used her to attract a bigger crowd, even though she never committed to come, because CPAC always occurs during the Alaska legislative session. BTW, that is why she didn't attent CPAC in 2008, as well, when she was pretty much unknown. Besides, CPAC has essentially become an East Coast affair closely aligned with Romney, with quite a few Paul supporters showing up as well. It's not exactly a representative conservative group.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 12:00PM
Paul supports despise her. at least from what I've seen and heard. They're rabid.. I'd stay far, far away too.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
I've been a strong Paul supporter for 20 years. When he announced his candidacy in 2007 I was thrilled. I didn't think he would win, but I wanted him to get his views out in TV debates. And that has proven worth it because he has more influence in DC than he did before. People now listen to him.
Well, during the primary campaign two things happened. The media controlling who got time in the debates shunned him, and when they did ask him a question it was generally a stupid one, totally away from his message.
But the other thing that happened was his campaign took off. Great excitement, money bombs, a blimp, huge cheering crowds. He was the first rock star (of three) of the 2008 election. But because the media, even and especially FOX, continued to shun him, he couldn't translate the Ron Paul R3volution into votes.
So I began to look for a candidate for the future who could pick up that excitement for limited government, individual liberty, and free markets, who would be young and energetic, and most of all would be so incredibly charismatic that the media could not resist heavy coverage.
Well, August 29 brought to light guess who. She was everything I had wished for and then a whole lot more that I had not evened imagined.
Dr. Paul had two major elements to his campaign - libertarianism and foreign non-intervention. I suspect it is those who gravitated to the Doc because of non-intervention that would not support Palin. But I think she fits the libertarian agenda better than any "electable" candidate we have ever seen.
So as I agree that she should avoid CPAC, I don't agree that she should avoid Ron Paul supporters.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:14PM
Great post.. excellent points. Glad you have that kind of awareness and I have to agree with you!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:10PM
My sentiments exactly !
Pete| 1.8.10 @ 11:44AM
I don't get it. What's the problem with the JBS? In fact they have been right all along. I think it is foolish for Conservatives to not reflect on what Republicans have actually pushed us down the road towards socialism.
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:21PM
they are 911 truthers. DUH
Sean| 1.8.10 @ 11:46AM
There is nothing wrong with the John Birch Society. I am not a memeber but I would jump at a chance to replace almost all elected Republicans with birchers. Then we might actually have a conservative agenda.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 12:05PM
My experience is that folks that write "there is nothing wrong with the John Birch Society" -- are usually clueless about the underlying premises of JBS ideology which are sanitized for public relations purposes.
For details, see following report based upon FBI files:
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1
Siegfried X| 1.8.10 @ 11:47AM
Palin quit her politician's job to become a full time celebrity. I don't understand why some people expect her to be some sort of political savior when she doesn't want to be one. None of her decisions have made any sense for someone who wanted to run for office again, especially the presidency. Palin clearly is out of politics.
I also don't understand why people assume she is a solid Republican and conservative when she has spoken many times of supporting candidates in parties other than Republican (and she certainly didn't mean third party conservative).
For some reason conservatives have invented this imaginary Sarah Palin who is their dream candidate, but is nothing like the real Palin.
Some people fall in love with a life story and make incorrect assumptions. It's as pathetic as Republicans who say, in spite of the facts, that John McCain MUST be a conservative because he was a POW.
bluecollarbytes| 1.8.10 @ 1:07PM
There is no "dream candidate" out there. Sarah Palin is but 1 imperfect human. BUT, at least she is unafraid of American history and its unique place in a crapped-up dangerous world. She feels no need to assign 'good intentions' to an opposition whose rise to power is always first run right through demonization of conservative philosophy and individuals.
At least Palin Opposes, making her more of a 'man' than most of the pretty pedicured males currently jockeying for position.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:17PM
Sadly for us, it's not that Palin is unafraid of American history. Palin doesn't KNOW any American history. I want a conservative candidate who knows the history of our great country.
Also, as a man, I don't find Palin's lack of knowledge "manly." bluecollarbytes, are you anti-male?
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:51PM
How do you know Palin doesn't know any American history? You stupid, psychic or just anti-female?
You sound like just another troll spewing your hater nonsense.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 5:12PM
She doesn't know 20th century and 21st century American history, and she doesn't know Iraq from Iran.
You have to label me a troll and anti-female because the facts show you are wrong? She's on film unable even to name a legal case she disagrees with, even though the Exxon-Valdez case was one of the worse in AK history.
Dick Nixon| 1.8.10 @ 5:54PM
She had a son serve in the Iraq/Afghanistan theater.
Are you the same Jack that drive by trolls over at RightWingNews.Com? You sure seem as dumb as he is.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:43PM
Yeah, he was in the "theater" all right. 80 miles from Baghdad. After he'd trained in Kuwait. Rumor has it -- I don't have confirmation -- that his superior officers didn't send him out on any missions, because they knew their heads, and careers, would roll if he was injured or killed.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:22PM
I think Karen's a Palin stalker. Nutjob.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:02PM
What "facts" moron? The words you've written on an anonymous blog? Libtard.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:12PM
I guess you didn't watch Palin during the 2008 election. I guess you didn't watch her last year on Hannity. Otherwise, you'd know that her lapses of knowledge are on film.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:42PM
Nice try, Jack; no facts to back up your lies?
Try again, troll.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:41PM
Katie Couric interview on CBS (9/2008)- Palin couldn't name a court case that she was against, even though the Exxon Valdez case was such a big case in AK. http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....ouric.html
Sean Hannity - http://www.thesarahpalinblog.c.....-show.html
Hannity (FOX)
Janice | 1.8.10 @ 9:18PM
Same old saw. That all you got? Not impressed, troll.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:38PM
You can always tell when a neocon right-winger is finally at a loss for words -- they descend into personal insults, salacious innuendo, and/or four letter words NSFW.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 6:56PM
Karen, hypocrite, you used teabagger first.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:45PM
And that's STILL bothering you? Get over it, already.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:27PM
No, it doesn't bother me that you're a foul mouthed hypocrite. You're the one who is whining and complaining about the big bad republican meanies.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:13PM
"I want a conservative candidate "
I don't believe you.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 4:54PM
Siegfred x, Palin resigned: $500,000 in legal fees that only Alaska makes elected officials pay for themselves. Cost of over 2 million to tax payers to pay for frivolous ethics charges.
Obama - quit Illinois senate to become Senator. Quit senator to become quasi-president, fail
Many senators quit to become governors or vice-versa.
Of course she will campaign for anyone who is conservative and many of all parties are conservative. Apparently you ARE NOT.
It is also apparent that you have not read or listened to any of her facebook posts, WSJ op-eds, speeches or anything else. So, you really have nothing to say about Sarah Palin nor a single fact.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:48PM
It's been proven over and over that the nitwits who totalled up the $2M counted quite a few costs several times over. The REAL cost to Alaska was under $300,000.
YOU didn't back up your claim with any links, but I will:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2.....ges_n.html
And just so you know: When President Obama was ELECTED President, he resigned his Senate seat. Can't be both at once. It's not "quasi-president", it's "President-Elect".
That's so elementary, I'm surprised you have to be told that.
P.S. Sarah Palin doesn't write her Facebook posts or her WSJ op-eds. They are written by Rebecca Mansour, or Tim Lindell. Sarah Palin writes like she talks, and those screeds don't "sound" anything like her.
KAREN'S A PALIN STALKER| 1.8.10 @ 8:29PM
You need a shrink, troll. Are you Joy Behar?
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 10:59AM
There is the biggest clue that Sarah Palin's Facebook posts have been exceptionally effective, idiots like Karen insist that she could not possibly have authored such well reasoned commentary.
If they were ineffective, the authorship would not be denied. Case closed on that one! Hahahaha
Francis Beckwith| 1.8.10 @ 11:56AM
What's wrong with the JBS?:
Bill Buckley: http://tinyurl.com/n48v6v
Bob Dylan: http://tinyurl.com/yzmxgj6
Red Phillips| 1.8.10 @ 2:23PM
Oh Dr. Beckwith, you're killing me. I never imagined you as the enforcer of mainstream (which is yesterday's far left) orthodoxy type.
While I don't have much use for the John Birch Society’s conspiratorial orientation, they have long been rock solid on the issues. They are consistently constitutionalist, unlike most of the advocacy groups that make up Conservative Inc. which are politically pragmatic, certainly not strict constitutionalists, and overly deferential to the GOP in their perspective. I will take conspiracy theorist true constitutionalists over non-conspiracy theorist "mainstream" conservatives any day of the week.
Has the JBS sponsored CPAC in the past? Is this a new development? If so, Keene deserves praise for allowing this once pariah group (after one of Buckley’ famous “purges”) back in the good graces of the “movement.” And if this is really one of Palin’s justifications (it doesn’t ring true to me), then she needs to seriously reconsider. The JBS has more support on the activist “far” right than she might realize.
Francis Beckwith| 1.9.10 @ 11:22AM
The purpose of politics is to advance the common good and do so by winning elections. JBS does neither.
Imagine if Obama had said this about the Weather Underground: "While I don't have much use for the Weather Underground's violence, they have long been rock solid on the issues. " Would you find that acceptable?
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."
Red Phillips| 1.9.10 @ 2:44PM
Thanks for the reply.
"Imagine if Obama had said this about the Weather Underground: "While I don't have much use for the Weather Underground's violence, they have long been rock solid on the issues. " Would you find that acceptable?"
Of course not, because the Weather Underground is wrong on the issue and advocated violence. But the JBS is right on the issues with a few small quibbles and doesn't advocate violence. What part of the JBS political agenda do you disagree with exactly?
"The purpose of politics is to advance the common good and do so by winning elections. JBS does neither."
The JBS seeks to get the Fed Gov to actually follow the Constitution, a quaint idea I know, and I consider that an attempt to advance the common good.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 12:16PM
Red: When the JBS was given the opportunity to demonstrate how it intended to "follow the Constitution" and in the process reveal "its agenda" during the 1960's -- it chose to ally itself with racists and segregationists and to oppose and vilify every national civil rights leader and organization.
The following quote comes from a source which even Birchers respect – i.e. a very prominent African-American author and JBS speaker, George S. Schuyler:
"The White Citizens Council which has branches or cells everywhere, controls by terror such states as Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and to a lesser extent, Virginia...It has defied and disrupted the operation of the laws of the land. It has used threats and vicious economic reprisals...It has become a legal arm of Mississippi's Government.” [4/22/61 Schuyler column in Pittsburgh PA Courier]
Furthermore, let’s also consider a comment made by JBS member (and FBI informant within the White Knights of the KKK of Mississippi), Rev. Delmar Dennis:
"The Klan in Mississippi has completely infiltrated every phase of the legal, political, social and economic system in Mississippi. The membership in the Klan ranges from common laborers and criminals, to judges, lawyers, doctors and political leaders. While they may not be active members, they are secret members who use their influence to further Klan efforts and aid Klan activities, for example, it is generally known in Klan circles that supervisors who pick juries use their influence to get Klan members on the jury panel."
Unfortunately, the Birch Society interpreted the problem in our southern states as entirely an abstraction instead of understanding the real-world consequences to living human beings.
The JBS totally ignored, de-valued, trivialized, or facilitated the daily injustices and crimes often committed (or condoned) by the very people in southern communities whom had the responsibility for translating abstract principles into reality. These were the folks who made “state’s rights” and the words “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” into a cruel joke.
The reason why the JBS is so often "linked" (unfairly) to the KKK is because:
(1) they both supported and praised the same racist politicians---such as Gov. George Wallace (AL) and Gov. Ross Barnett (MS) and Senator James Eastland (MS) and
(2) they both opposed all civil rights legislation and pro-integration efforts and
(3) they both described the civil rights movement as "Communist-created" and "Communist controlled" and "serving only Communist purposes" while simultaneously denouncing all civil rights leaders and organizations and
(4) they both had senior officials who were racists and segregationists.
In addition, even Rev. Delmar Dennis told his FBI contact that the KKK viewed the JBS as a fertile recruiting ground. In fact, at least one JBS chapter in Mississippi had to be disbanded because it refused to terminate the membership of a known KKK member.
In an 11/7/64 report to his FBI contact, Dennis stated that:
"I have learned that the Klan uses meetings of the John Birch Society, Masons, and Americans For The Preservation of the White Race to solicit members for the Klan. The Auxiliary Police in Neshoba County is a front for Klan membership in Neshoba County."
Dennis himself was a JBS member, a segregationist, a KKK member, and a member of Americans for the Preservation of the White Race even before he became an FBI informant. He also founded a whites-only church in his community.
As the FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Jackson MS field office wrote in a summary memo about Dennis:
"Informant is widely known in rural Mississippi as an ardent segregationist…He founded the First Southern Methodist Church in Mississippi, which church was founded for the sole intent of maintaining racial segregation."
The Birch Society welcomed racists and segregationists into its ranks as members, as chapter and section leaders, as writers and speakers, and including as National Council members -- such as A.G. Heinsohn Jr., T. Coleman Andrews, and Tom Anderson.
Major officers of the White Citizens Councils movement were also Birchers, such as: Medford Evans, William J. Simmons, and Louis W. Hollis.
The Birch Society employed racists and segregationists as speakers under the auspices of its American Opinion Speakers Bureau – such as Sheriff Jim Clark of Selma AL and Rev. Ferrell Griswold of AL.
The Birch Society approved of and promoted incumbent politicians and candidates for political office who were unapologetic Klan-supported white supremacists – such as Sen. James O. Eastland of MS and Gov. George Wallace of AL and Ross Barnett of MS. Often, the JBS sponsored or reprinted their speeches or otherwise endorsed their rants which characterized the civil rights movement as a Communist enterprise -- which was certainly music to the ears of the most rabid bigots in control of southern communities.
Kent Courtney, a prominent JBS leader in Louisiana, was the featured speaker at a 6/5/65 “Conservative Rally” in Natchez MS sponsored by Americans For The Preservation of the White Race, Inc.
William J. Story, a JBS member who was a candidate for Governor of Virginia refused to join the other major party candidates in condemning the KKK.
James H. Sutherland was a JBS chapter and section leader in Missouri who founded the St. Louis chapter of White Citizens Councils. He was also active in Southern States Industrial Council and helped craft their annual Declaration of Policy which opposed school integration.
Another prominent Bircher, Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker, wrote in 1965:
“I’ll bet you will find more good Americans in the Ku Klux Klan than in the Americans For Democratic Action.”
The JBS and its membership took these positions or made these statements while claiming that they merely were "following the Constitution" -- so we now know what type of society and what depredations of freedom and dignity the JBS is prepared to accept as reasonable and "Consitutional" if left to its own devices.
L. Ross| 1.8.10 @ 11:58AM
Palin 2012. Vote MILF.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 4:53PM
Ross, don't be a horndog--you're embarrassing yourself.
jharp| 1.8.10 @ 12:06PM
"Palin 2012. Vote MILF."
That pretty much sums up conservatism. The last guy they voted in was the guy they'd most like to have a beer with.
How's that turn out?
Al Adab| 1.8.10 @ 12:23PM
Last guy the Conservatives voted in (President? I assume) was Reagan. Have a beer with him? Never.
GOP has betrayed Conservatves time and again - to our lasting shame.
astonerii| 1.8.10 @ 12:46PM
Actually, I think that is the Democratic voter that does that sort of thing.
Conservatives vote for issues, and not just one or two, but usually full packages.
Drider| 1.8.10 @ 12:15PM
I won't send hate mail either and I'll simply state that with Palin's past track record, I will go with her gut feelings anytime.
The beautiful thing about Palin, IMHO, is that she is a conservative and better yet, a conservative for the people she used to represent in Alaska.She took it to both parties to get her way and her way turned out right.
I'm much more depressed on the silence of the GOP in total at the moment, mainly because it gives me that crappy feeling that they learned nothing from the trouncing they recieved and are poised to take over the ruins left by the socialists just,,,,,,because.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:39PM
"is that she is a conservative and better yet, a conservative for the people she used to represent in Alaska".... ah, she did? ah, that was when they had fist fights over her at the Republican Party of Alaska Annual gathering. Palin liked the fist fights. That is the conservative party element she represented.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
Fistfights not in a good way, either. Palin, trying to show how little like her predecessor Murkowski she was, pushed through a lot of pet projects that had the approval of Democrats in the Alaska state legislature in her first year of office -- when she bothered to show up for work, that is, about 4 hours a day -- and doing that, earned the enmity of the Alaska Republicans.
In 2008 she hardly showed up at all in Juneau except for the State of the Union speech and photo ops, which prompted the "Where's Sarah?" lapel buttons everyone in the legislature wore.
Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters are left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing now "to progress the people of Alaska".
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:14AM
"Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters are left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing now "to progress the people of Alaska". "
Huh?
Is that why Palin had the highest approval ratings of ANY sitting Governor? >80% ?
Here's a tip. ma'am. When you lie, at the frequency you do, no one believes anything else you have to say, no matter how sincere or truthful you are. My kids learned that when they were about 2 or 3 years old.
Did you have parents?
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:46PM
Of course KarenJ had parents! She was raised by feral dogs. That's where she got all of her social skills.
Can't you tell?
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:02PM
Operative word in your comment: "had".
Those approval ratings were polled just before she was nominated to the Republican VP candidate post, not long after she had authorized an additional $1,200.00 "resource rebate" be taken from the Alaska Permanent Fund after residents had already gotten their PFDividend. This was done despite revenues from oil production already decreasing (thus, less available to put into the Permanent Fund as investment).
Who WOULDN'T be popular after doing something like that, even if the economy meant that the next year's PFD (paid out in 2009 several months after Palin quit) would be far, far less?
Randy| 1.11.10 @ 10:58PM
KarenJ has all the social skills of the lying feral dog (B!tch) she is.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:14AM
"Now only her most diehard ignorant redneck Alaskan supporters are left to be "represented" by whatever it is that she's doing now "to progress the people of Alaska". "
Huh?
Is that why Palin had the highest approval ratings of ANY sitting Governor? >80% ?
Here's a tip. ma'am. When you lie, at the frequency you do, no one believes anything else you have to say, no matter how sincere or truthful you are. My kids learned that when they were about 2 or 3 years old.
Did you have parents?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 4:58PM
facts, where are your links? Idiot! At least make a statement and back it with some kind of article from a newspaper or something.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:28PM
Taking criticism from conservatives for not going to CPAC will actually strengthen her with independents. It's the same storyline she used to get elected in Alaska: If the people think your side is dirty, you have to start a big public fight and make a show of cleaning house. Then the public will believe the dirt has been dealt with. Right now, she's making CPAC into the dirt, and I wonder if it will survive Hurricane Sarah. (It doesn't matter to me either way.)
Mae, I'm tired of hearing AK Republicans bi*ching about Palin. She didn't play your game, boo frickin hoo. The AK GOP was as crooked as it gets. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 8:00PM
Right on!
DaveP.| 1.8.10 @ 12:27PM
Quilyer and his ilk gave us President Obama and the Soon-To-Be-Permanent Democratic Majority.
When he speaks (well, whines, actually) bear that in mind.
Kitty| 1.8.10 @ 12:30PM
Memo to Hillyer: Get Over Yourself
GO SARAH!
...
astonerii| 1.8.10 @ 12:41PM
Keene explained it to YOUR satisfaction. Well then, obviously everyone should have your exacting standards of satisfaction with people's excuses and explanation for things and get over themselves. In fact, I hereby announce that you can be my God and any time you come to some conclusion on a topic you can just send me a mental note of what I now believe in. Who needs personal responsibility, who needs to keep a critical eye on things when we have you and your infinite wisdom and ability to answer all our tough questions.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 12:49PM
Sarah Palin is all about $$$. That said: The CPAC does NOT pay its speakers - neither a fee, nor a first class airline ticket for 3(or is it 4?) people, and also not for a $700/night hotel room.
So, THERE you have the real reason $arah Pal$n will not show up.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:22PM
Lies.
I wonder if this person gets paid for a living.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:26PM
Does Sarah Palin get paid for a living?
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 8:31PM
Do you get paid Jack or are you still living in your step-mom's basement?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:49PM
Good one.
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 9:20PM
Didn't answer my question, Romneybot.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:30PM
Been to Alaska Margie? Even better, been to Wasilla Alaska and viewed the nature of Palin's tin cup?
My gosh you have no idea. Palin is about $$$$ in her purse. Alaskans are used to her creating a fight and her hand holding a tin cup.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 4:58PM
Go back under your rock, mae; your lies and Palin Derangement Syndrome are not welcome here.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:20PM
May Sarah Palin write as many more books as she possibly can, become the next President of the U.S., or not. Whatever she does may she blessed both with good health, prosperity in abundance and a long life!
Like that, Mae? No?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
Sarah Palin is speaking at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in April in New Orleans for no fee.
Sarah Palin speaks at Righ to Life groups for no fees.
Sarah spoke at College of the Ozarks for no fee.
Sarah Palin's jacket was auction off for $57,000 for Charity.
Dinner with Sarah was auction off for $63,000 for charity.
$10,000 for Ft. Hood.
How much does Mitt, Huck, and Newt get for paid speeches. I never hear anything about that.
Huck was paid to give a speech at a fundrasing event for a candidate and event ended in the red.
I don't remember a bomb going off for that.
Sarah Palin is still paying off her $500,000 debt for doing nothing wrong. Such yesterday another law suit against Sarah Palin was dismissed from a Federal court. No merit. How much did that cost her for doing nothing wrong. There are still reminding law suits and complaints that have been filed against her for doing nothing wrong. How much are they going to cost her?
Sarah Palin has a contract with a Washington firm that sets up most of her speeches. Anybody that hires her agrees to the contract.
But the problem is everybodyelso is allowed to get paid for speeches and set their terms but Sarah Palin.
Listen to you nutty people.
billgibbs43| 1.8.10 @ 7:29PM
Well Done!!
I can hear the lefties jaws dropping
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 7:50PM
I'll have to make a note of those no-fee speeches for when my fellow "libtards" say she doesn't speak without getting paid.
Although I think she would have had a hard time collecting a fee from that Right to Life speech in Indiana last year -- she was still Governor, there are Alaska laws against getting personal fees for service while in office, and she left for the speech right in the middle of some rather important state legislative business that really required her presence.
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 8:32PM
More lies from the Palin stalker, KarenJ.
Derek Leaberry| 1.8.10 @ 12:50PM
Keene's a man for sale, a master lobbyist, a conservative symbol about what's corrupt about the American ruling class. He's been for sale at least since he supported George Bush over Ronald Reagan in 1980 even after being told by Bush that conservatives need not apply for jobs in a Bush Administration. Keene is also the sort of guy who won't let Pat Buchanan through the front door at CPAC but is more than willing to grovel before anti-conservative John McCain in 2008. Conservatives should turn their backs on CPAC and DC operatives, almost all are in it for the money. Think Abramoff.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 12:51PM
Ms. Palin is one of the best things to happen to the Conservative movement in my lifetime. She just doesn't happen to be a country club Republican 'conservative'. She's not one of the 'old boys'.
Good for her !
I hope the vision-challenged author of this pathetic screed eats his words in 2012 . I'm pretty sure he will.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:34PM
No, she's Viagra to the Conservative movement -- or she was, until those nasty ol' papparazzi pictures of her without makeup, fake hair, or spandex pantihose showed up on the Internet.
http://www.celebrity-gossip.ne.....2169-8.jpg
http://www.celebrity-gossip.ne.....2169-5.jpg
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:02PM
To KarenJ:
Can we get some pictures of you, hon'?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:49PM
No.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:02PM
Why no pic, Karen--big and fat and living in a double-wide??
I'd bet the farm it's your boyfriend who needs the viagra.
PMain| 1.8.10 @ 12:52PM
Sarah Palin followed the "established" methodology in the last Presidential Campaign, much like the last 2 Republican lead Congresses... how'd that work out?
The political landscape has changed & is still changing & the Republican establishment, including CPAC, is still following the time-used methods… which is fine, but their successes have depended greatly upon Democratic miscues or Reagan's charisma & are not time-proven by themselves.
The special elections in NY & now Mass have shown that the GOP elites are too slow to act & that the real political change is coming from the outside of the Party. You'll have to forgive Palin for reading the political leaves & actually responding to base's desires vs. ruffling the establishment’s feathers or following the prescribed path.
Reagan built a base by traveling the country, paid by GE no less, giving speeches & drawing support over time. It’s called building a base, not making decisions for the base or assuming support thereof, which the GOP, CPAC, etc. have built careers upon.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:29PM
Sarah is getting together with Joseph Farah (World Net Daily) and they are working with the Tea Party Nation. She's isn't going away like the Left would have you believe.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f.....eId=120956
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:51PM
No one wants her to go away. I just want a better conservative candidate--someone who can win.
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:30PM
she is BY FAR the best candidate
1.starpower
2.Charisma
3Crowds
4.values
5.Speechs
6. she can raise huge money
7. she does really well in debates (watch her 2006 deabates)
8.Neutralizes identity politics from obama.
9. good looking
10.liberals hate her.
don't let the media fool you. She is the best choice by a mile.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
I have to admit, I burst out laughing when I saw your idea of "best candidate".
1. Starpower -- let's substitute Sandra Bullock instead. She's a REAL star, and looks great all the time. Don't forget, O'Sarah looks really awful without her makeup, hairpieces, and spandex nylons.
2. Charisma. I'd prefer someone who projected an honest personality ALL THE TIME, instead of turning the charisma on and off, depending on who's in front of her. O'Sarah has been a b!tch on wheels to a lot of people who've disagreed with her.
3. Crowds. O RLY? Have you SEEN the crowds that have flocked to her lately? Mostly old, flabby, gray-haired, grungy, given to slogans on t-shirts, inarticulate or ignorant when asked why they like O'Sarah or what she stands for, then whiny and defensive when their ignorance is revealed.
4. Values. Case in point = humiliating her promiscuous pregnant daughter in front of the voting public to "prove" rumors about said daughter were untrue -- instead of simply releasing a copy of her own medical records. Case in point = taking youngest daughter out of school for 2 months in late 2008, then for 4 months in late 2009 -- why? Babysitter for the infant? Lady-in-waiting to her own mother? We-don't-need-no-eddication? Case in point = widening rift between the mother and the father of her grandson Tripp by vilifying the 19 year old boy in state of AK press releases, in People magazine, to Fox "news", on her Facebook page, and now, allowing her "fans" on her Facebook page to promote a campaign to harass state of AK justices charged with the custody case of the grandson's parents.
5. Speeches. When she's written them herself, they're rambling, inarticulate, repetitive, nearly not understandable except to a very small segment of American society -- her fans, who claim to understand every word she says. If the speeches are understandable by most standards, she didn't write them. 'Nuf said.
6. Huge money. Oh, my. As a personal fortune to a person who's never really had much money, maybe so (although the Palins had a net worth of about $2M before she quit). But as a many-millions fundraiser -- not much. And I doubt she's capable of churning out another book -- based on what? She's written about EVERYTHING in her life up to now.
7. Debates. Oh, my "she does really well"? She doesn't debate AT ALL. She talks about what she wants to talk about, which is 1) her list of talking points, and 2) never the topic the moderator brings up, and what everyone else is talking about. There are videos of those gubernatorial debates and the one with Biden that prove that. She was actually an inept "debater".
8. Neutralizes identity politics. O'Sarah ISN'T the face of "identity politics"? Coulda fooled me.
9. Good looking. Yeah, I'm going to vote for the candidate that looks the best. Show my intelligence, yeah! OMG...
10. Liberals hate her. NO, a thousand times NO! Independents, moderates, and progressive/liberals don't HATE O'Sarah. We ridicule her for her ignorance, her screechy voice, her pandering to the worst hatemongers (Eddie Burke, come on down), we point out her thousands upon thousands of lies with fact-checking to debunk every single one, we are still looking at that strange story she told (several different versions) about the birth of the Down Syndrome baby, and in fact, all of her pregnancies (seems there were two more no one knew about until she wrote about them in her book), and we feel sorrow for her children, who have been her political/celebrity props and constant attendants instead of being able to lead normal lives like the children of most other politicians and celebrities.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Looks like Karen chewed on some sour grapes there, today, hmm?
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 6:05PM
Actually, Margie, old Karen is most likely chewing some nasty old tobacky or her cud. Maybe both!
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:25PM
Maybe it's LibRead! :^) You never can tell.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:03PM
What a venomous hateful viper of a woman you are KarenJ. Go back to the sewer with the rest of the rats, and take your diseased thoughts with you.
SoCon| 1.8.10 @ 6:06PM
I second that!
Colorado| 1.8.10 @ 7:39PM
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:46PM
The real truth is that Sarah Palin is going to be the next President of the United States!!
Go Sarah!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:51PM
Palin supporters need to focus. You can proclaim her candidacy all you want to, but you need to work with other conservatives, not alienate them.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:23PM
Jack, you're not a Conservative, stop lying.
Sarah is our candidate--not RINO Romney.
FlaminMoe| 1.8.10 @ 1:56PM
Oh, *that* explains her sudden jump onto the birther bandwagon. That association can only end well for the Tea Party - and the GOP.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:16PM
So it's okay to associate with Birchers but not Birthers. Glad we got that down.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 12:53PM
Thank you for defending the true values of conservatism. Sarah Palin adheres to the values of Sarah Palin. Looking forward to hearing Steve Schmidt on 60 Minutes on Sunday.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:54PM
You're kidding, right?
The man who masterminded that masterful McCain mash-up last year?
Have fun with that!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:21PM
No. I'm not kidding. By the way, SarahPAC donated to John McCain. I am not a McCain supporter, but Sarah Palin is.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:07PM
Jack, I am NOT a McCain supporter. He needs to go along with the rest of the RINO's however, Sarah does believe in honoring commitments. She is his friend and will back him just as he backed her when he choose her for VP. Sarah Palin is honorable and I would be disappointed if she did not support McCain and I do hope that giving money to his campaign is the only support that she gives him.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:09PM
Schmidt is a loser and he's been thoroughly discredited. Good luck with your stupid ad for 60 minutes, moron.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:04PM
Not with us.
We're delighted to finally have someone in the McCain campaign break ranks and tell it like it is.
Perhaps Meghan McCain will have more to say in her book.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:35PM
Of course loser RINOS like you love another loser RINO. No surprise there, loser.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:11AM
Perhaps the brilliant Megaton McCain will have more pictures of her prodigious cleavage in her book, since it is the only asset she really has to cash in on. At least you two are on the same level, Karen "the Hatemoger"J.
Patriot| 1.9.10 @ 9:49PM
Megaton McCain--hadn't heard that one. lol
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:15PM
If the McCain Senate campaign gets rough and he asks her to come, she will be there and work her magic for him. She adores John McCain and will do anything for him, even if she disagrees politically.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 8:28PM
You wouldn't just happen to be making that up, now would you? Ya know, like a little creativity or somethin.?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:37PM
I think he's right, Margie; Sarah's very loyal. :(
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 12:54PM
I'm not sure I agree with comments regarding Sarah Palin and JBS: she was a JBS fan during her tenure as Mayor. There are also multiple photos showing her with JBS materials. This was during the time her husband was a member of the AIP. Sarah Palin was an outspoken supporter of the AIP as well; in fact, she spoke at their conventions. There is some thought that she was also a member of the AIP, and at her recent Wasilla booksigning, she allowed JBS volunteers onsite to distribute literature. Which if true, just places her even further away from mainstream Repub antics. It's all well and good if you want to take sides on the JBS, but don't pick and choose among Sarah Palin's past associations to suit your arguments.
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
I challenge you to provide any evidence at all that Palin was a member of the AIP. Any at all. "Some thought" doesn't cut it.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:47PM
It's a FACT that Todd Palin was a registered member of the secessionist Alaska Independence Party from October 1995 until July 2002, save for a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared.
It's a FACT that Sarah Palin videotape-addressed the 2008 AIP Convention: "I'm Governor Sarah Palin, and I am delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention in the golden heart city of Fairbanks. Your party plays an important role in our state's politics... "Good luck on a successful and inspiring convention. Keep up the good work, and god bless you."
It's a FACT that the AIP's chairwoman, Lynette Clark, in September 2008 said of Sarah Palin, "I've admired Sarah from the first time I met her at the 2006 AIP convention. She impressed me so much. She's Alaskan to the bone; she's a damn good gal.
"As I was listening to her, I thought she sounds like what we've been saying for years. I thought to myself, 'My God, she sounds just like Joe Vogler.'" [Joe Vogler was the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party]
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:55PM
And those facts prove that Palin attracts more than the Republican base.
That's your point, right?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 12:54PM, Really not much to say to your statement other than you are a flat out liar. I was at the Wasilla book-signing and no one was handing out flyers except for a couple of Tea-party persons.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:47PM, I see that you say "it's a fact" and "it's a fact' but what I don't see are your links to prove your facts. Almost all (87%) of Alaskans considered Sarah to be the best thing to ever happen to Alaska. We are diverse up here and about the only ones who don't like her are the paid trolls (by soros org.) Are you one of them? You Betcha!
Red Phillips| 1.8.10 @ 5:30PM
So WH, would it be a bad thing if the facts above were true? What is so scandalous about the AIP? It is ideologically similar to the Constitution Party. Is the CP scandalous? The AIP once elected a Gov. of the state of Alaska.
Palin’s willingness to address the AIP and Alaska Libertarian Party speaks well of her. It was her capitulation to the cookie-cutter neo-conservatism of the McCain campaign that was disappointing.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:03PM
You've heard of Google, haven't you? It's a search engine.
What you do is, type in the search box "Sarah Palin AIP convention speech" and see what comes up. And/or type in "Todd Palin AIP" and see what comes up.
When more than a dozen stories from both conservative and progressive sites document the same information, I'd call that "fact".
Try doing a little research yourself. Do some of the "heavy lifting" you're demanding of others.
BTW, that 87% you're talking about (as you say, "considerED", not "still consider") dates back to mere weeks before O'Sarah was tagged by John McCain to be his VP choice. What happened then? Yeah, she authorized an additional $1,200 payout from the Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend surplus to each and every Alaska resident -- that'd make ANYBODY popular for a while. Her approval ratings have plummeted faster than any other politician except George Bush ever since then.
No, I'm not paid to type all this. Except by Social Security, that is. I got all the time in the world to spend on blogs like this...
What about you? You're a Wasilla resident. Do YOU work? At what? Why are you on this blog at 1:30 Alaska time on Friday afternoon? Who's paying YOU to comment on blogs?
---------------
As for you calling Laura a liar, she wasn't far off in her assessment of the Wasilla booksigning. Yes, there were the local teabagger organization (calling themselves the "Conservative Patriots") "everywhere" at the booksigning, as one attendee said. But there was one guy who might be worse than a "JBS volunteer" handing out brochures at the Wasilla booksigning. He was a LaRouche disciple with some very offensive material.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com.....e0f6c8.jpg
also, http://tinyurl.com/yhz9p5r
You know that Lyndon LaRouche has been a Marxist, a Trotskyite, and a neo-Nazi, don't you? (interesting note: earlier this year LaRouche said he supported a single-payer health care plan)
I just don't understand why this guy wasn't hustled out like the Alaska bloggers on Todd Palin's list were -- unless he was there on the Palins' approval.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:12PM
Karen and Laura are the same nasty troll. Ignore the loser(s).
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:37PM
Nope, wrong again!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:01PM
Too much time on your hands. Won't matter; The more you morons hate on Sarah, the more we love her. GO PALIN!!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:07PM
We're not trying to change YOUR minds.
We're here balancing all those interesting myths that have evolved about Sarah Palin with what the facts are about her. One thing for sure -- her book should be re-assigned to the "comedy" or "fiction" section of the bookstore/library.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:39PM
You're making Sarah stronger, fool. Keep it up.
The uglier you Romneybots are the more beautiful Sarah looks.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:56PM
It's not a beauty pageant, dear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:25PM
Good thing because Queen Romney would probably want to be in it!
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
I beg your pardon, but I am not a liar. There were published photos of the bearded man handing out literature with President Obama caricatured as Hitler. From the ADN article, per James Hastings, "A man distributing brochures about national health care legislation and displaying pictures of President Barack Obama sporting a Hitler mustache was asked to put the brochures away, Hastings said." Please, try very very hard to tell the truth yourself. The actual truth, not just reporting reality as you see it.
Tennessee| 1.8.10 @ 10:41PM
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM - "I beg your pardon, but I am not a liar. There were published photos of the bearded man handing out literature with President Obama caricatured as Hitler. "
Wow. How terrible.
What about these Obama-Bots?
http://tinyurl.com/5pjuw
http://tinyurl.com/5futjy
calbot| 1.8.10 @ 12:55PM
There was one other successful Diva + Woman of the People that I can think of --- Evita Peron.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 1:31PM
Sarah's no despicable Evita. But she is certainly closer to a Margaret Thatcher!
Go Sarah!
mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:43PM
You are aware that Palin figured out who Thatcher was about 3 days post McCain's selection of her as his VP. You do know that right?
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
You do know you are an ignorant lying sack of ****, right?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:49PM
Well, that's a lot faster than the amount of time it took Palin to figure out what the VP really does...
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 3:56PM
Wow! Lots of catty, jealous females here today.
And what have you done with your lives lately?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:23PM
Lots of gender-based disparity here today.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:08PM
Ignore Karen, she's a Palin hater. Karen's a fat girl who doesn't get out much.
Homely, unbathed liberal women like Karen resent beautiful, successful, slender conservative women like Sarah. Sad but true.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
And you're Brad Pitt in disguise, I suppose?
Nah, tell me you look more like George Clooney!
I've been on message boards and blogs for the past 10 years (and I'm happy to have finally reached Medicare age! Whoopee! I don't have to worry about MY health care insurance any more!!!) and I've NEVER ever seen a blogger guy who's finally put up a picture of his real self who turns out to be a real looker.
Most of the guy bloggers are slovenly, overweight, wear flannel plaid shirts over t-shirts with printed slogans on them that they got free at some place handing them out, nearly always are wearing a ball cap and if someone can get them to doff the cap, they're nearly bald underneath.
Is that you, Holmby?
Yes, I'm overweight -- as are many 65 year old women. I'm still quite attractive because I still have all my own teeth, my skin is less lined than Sarah Palin's WITHOUT ANY cosmetic enhancement like she underwent this last August (for you women out there, tell your daughters to start moisturizing their skin at puberty, and NEVER STOP -- and don't smoke), and my hair is still natural color light brown with only about 30 gray hairs.
You know by now Sarah Palin isn't attractive under all that makeup and fake hair and stuff. Don't you?
http://www.celebrity-gossip.ne.....2169-8.jpg
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:50PM
What an admirable passtime for an overweight 65 year old woman to be running down the looks of another woman with such catty vindictiveness.
I bet you are a real sweetheart in person, so much nicer than that devil diva Sarah Palin! Hahahaha
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:03PM
Love it!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:11PM
Me, to0. For once, Brian72 is right.
I'm not ashamed about being overweight. It comes with the territory. Yeah, I'm a sweetheart.
And yes, O'Sarah is a diva, but I really suspect she's much worse than "that devil". I've been concerned about what dark force is within her ever since that first stump speech.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:21AM
Dear KarenJ, you poor misguided sicko.
If anyone is wrestling with dark forces from within, it is you and your rather disturbing obsession to trash, smear and slander a decent woman whom you clearly hate on a personal level, probably because she has everything that you never, ever will. That would be professional success, personal happiness and contentment,the respect and admiration of millions of Americans.
All you've got is your black hole of hatred in your head, and your gubmint check. Enjoy it, it is all you ever will have. Hahahahahaha!
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:17PM
KarenJ says: "Yes, I'm overweight "
Like we didn't know that.
LOL
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:42PM
Overweight? Karen's thighs erupt into flames when she tries to walk. It's that friction, baby!
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:28AM
KarenJ: "..tell your daughters to start moisturizing their skin at puberty, and NEVER STOP"
Yes, but Karen you don't have to do it continuously and with such speed & passion.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 9:53PM
EW! Funny, though--you made me laugh. What a disgusting woman--by her own admission.
So glad I never have to know this putrid person.
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:09PM
That actually WAS funny. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply skin other than on one's FACE. But I guess that says a lot about the one(s) who read what I wrote.
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:05PM
Yeah, sure, Karen. You're lonely and bored--you've driven off everybody who ever care about you, so of course you meant 'more' than just facial skin. We get it.
You're a bitter, fat old loser. Who would love you?
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:20PM
KarenJ, you should listen to the O'biden/Palin debate and then read the Constitution. Sarah knows what the VP job entails as she quoted it word for word from the constitution. Idiot!
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:25PM
Oh, please!
Sarah Palin gave an interview to Larry Kudlow Aug 1, 2008 in which she said, “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/25970197
(Palin also said she would not accept the VP role [or, go "to that den of vipers in Washington," as the interviewer put it] in an appearance in June [2008] with CNN's Glenn Beck -- http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....-pres.html )
She and then-Senator Biden "debated" (although Palin's technique could hardly be called debating) on October 2, 2008.
She had MORE THAN TWO MONTHS to bone up on what the VP does! If she was able to quote it from the Constitution, after studying up for 2 months, good for her!
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 11:30AM
You moron, you really don't understand politics very well do you?
Obama said in 2006 he could not run for President because he wasn't ready yet. Then he turned around and ran for President anyway. He's a liar.
Hillary Clinton said during her Senate re-election campaign in 2006 several times she had no intention of abandoning the people of New York State to spend her entire second Senate term running for President. Of course, she knew all along that is exactly what she intended to do, and that is exactly what she did. Liar.
That Larry Kudlow interview, which I have seen a few times, was a clear message to McCain and his people that if she were to be picked as the VP nominee, she would not be comfortable with a do-nothing ceremonial position, but would want some clear goals to work toward in that position, since every one knows that what the VP does every day is exactly what the President asks of them. What would that be in this case? That is all she was doing. Of course, you know that and are a liar, or you are just too dumb to get the subtleties of political positioning.
As far as "boning up on what the VP does", in the debate with Biden it was Biden who referenced the wrong part of the Constitution when asked about the duties of the VP, and Sarah got it right.
Not that you give a crap about the actual facts.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:52PM
hey mae~~what I figure is that you probably worship at the altar of Evita. Am I right sweetie? Sure got your knickers in a twist today, hmm?
Dick_Nixon| 1.8.10 @ 5:57PM
Mae, your idol Obama is really putting people back to work, isn't he? Oh wait....
Dick_Nixon| 1.8.10 @ 5:57PM
Mae, your idol Obama is really putting people back to work, isn't he? Oh wait....
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 1:01PM
This site shows a picture of Sarah as mayor of Wasilla, having the JBS letter on her desk. It was taken during the same time that her husband was a member of of the AIP (which she tried to deny during the '08 campaign):
http://breepalin.blogspot.com/.....biden.html
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 3:52PM
I had some remarks already written up -- this is as good a place to add them:
Sarah Palin consented to having a picture taken of her apparently reading a John Birch Society magazine back in 1995 when she was a Wasilla City Council member (one year before she was elected mayor).
This is reported at Ben Smith's Politico page, and there was some pushback from several right wing blogs.
The problem with what the right wing bloggers are saying to defend Sarah Palin's choice of reading material, is that Sarah Palin has ALWAYS controlled very tightly what her public image is -- at least until her hairdresser blurted out that she was losing hair last June, and Palin had another series of plastic surgery procedures last August, and those awful December Hawaii vacation pictures surfaced -- and if she didn't WANT to be connected in any way to the John Birch Society, she would never have let that picture see the light of day.
As it is, apparently that picture held a place of honor in the Palin or the Heath household, because it was released to the media in September 2008 by "Sarah Palin's family".
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:10PM
Won't work trolls. It's too late. You fools won't stand in Sarah's way--she's on her way to the top.
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
there is nothing in that picture. lol you liberals are so stupid
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 4:39PM
OK - here is a different site that has the same picture up:
http://progressivealaska.blogs.....er-11.html
narciso| 1.8.10 @ 1:08PM
The convention was held in her home town, and they had actually elected a Governor and a former
ally on their own, Also, anyone who takes their Trig Truther blog from a Desperate Housewives character, just beyond satire
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:13PM
What?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:02PM
It's INTENDED as satire, chum.
The thrust of the satire is to point out that Sarah Palin was not the biological mother of Trig. We think, however, that she DID adopt him, which makes her technically his mother.
The focus is on HER, not poor little Trig.
Except -- over this past fall -- so called "Trig Truther" bloggers began to worry about his care and therapy, especially during that book tour when he was paraded around barely clothed, often without shoes or socks, no head covering, in 40 degree weather or snow, or at 11 PM at night, during the height of the H1N1 flu season -- a not-yet-2-years-old toddler with the fragile health of the typical Down Syndrome child.
With a known heart condition, he's also spent most of his 2 years of life flying at altitude from place to place, which places a considerable strain on fragile hearts -- why?
Why was he not at home in Wasilla the whole time, being cared for by his nanny and the therapists who should have been working with him EVERY DAY?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Loser, how much are you being paid for your Palin Derangement Syndrome?
Sue| 1.8.10 @ 5:30PM
lol wow your one fu*ked up liberal whore.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:28PM
Tsk. Such foul-mouthed ranting -- from a "boy named Sue"?
(thanks, Johnny Cash)
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:45PM
Umbrage from the self-righteous,'teabagger' foul mouth herself.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:11PM
You are a laughable piece of work with this.
Soooo concerned about this little boy with special needs that you spend your whole worthless pitiful life slandering his parentage and siblings.
You are sick. Truly sick. I hope you and Andy Sullivan wind up as room mates at the mental institution one day.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:37PM
That's the remarkable thing about Sarah Palin fans. They never EVER display any concern or curiosity about any of Palin's children except when it might reflect on her image.
I'll bet the majority of Sarah Palin fans never even HEARD of the term "special needs" until little Trig was carried around under those bright, hot lights of the RNC. The term sure is getting a work out now.
Did you hear about the resounding silence outside the state courthouse in Alaska where the "Barracuda Brigade" demonstration against the Bristol vs. Levi custody judges had nada, zip, zero in attendance? It was even less successful than the demonstration against Dave Letterman, when 35 people showed, 20 of them from the media.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:46PM
Scary stalker. Too much time on your hands, troll.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:23PM
KarenJ: "so called "Trig Truther" bloggers began to worry about his care and therapy, especially during that book tour when he was paraded around barely clothed, often without shoes or socks, no head covering, in 40 degree weather or snow, or at 11 PM at night, during the height of the H1N1 flu season -- a not-yet-2-years-old toddler with the fragile health of the typical Down Syndrome child."
Good point. They should have sucked the little b__tard's brains out before he had a chance to get sick.
Dean| 1.9.10 @ 2:31AM
Yeah sure. Liberals never met an abortion they didn't love. Sick monsters.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 1:29PM
Maybe Sarah doesn't want to be a part of this sleaze ..
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....25072.html
The American Conservative Union asked FedEx for a check for $2 million to $3 million in return for the group’s support in a bitter legislative dispute, then the group’s chairman flipped and sided with UPS after FedEx refused to pay.
For the $2 million plus, ACU offered a range of services that included: “Producing op-eds and articles written by ACU’s Chairman David Keene and/or other members of the ACU’s board of directors. (Note that Mr. Keene writes a weekly column that appears in The Hill.)” [snip]
---------------------------------------
The real proof:
Here are 3 VERY interesting videos of John Ziegler interviewing Keene at CPAC. Watch for yourself to understand why a candidate may want to distance themselves from this organization as it now exists.
If you don't watch the videos, I don't think you can intelligently discuss the matter at hand. Just my opinion of course.
Youtube videos:
http://tinyurl.com/yd7djtk
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 1:38PM
Unfortunately, no one knows for sure why Palin does anything (e.g. why did she really quit her job?). Why are we always having to come up with rationales and suppositions for her decisions? I want a candidate who clearly fights for conservative values.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 1:57PM
I agree. I have also wondered why. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Mrs. Palin does not come forward herself to explain those decisions or expand on her comments. She does not make use of the MSM as a traditional candidate or political person might, as a platform to articulate and promote their positions and values. Whatever your feelings about Sunday morning talk shows, it's an arena where many aspiring political folks have the opportunity to talk about themselves. You cannot promote your agenda through dubious avenues like Facebook and Twitter, for heaven's sake, and expect the electorate to accept that as all you have to say. I reject the reasoning that Mrs. Palin will not be interviewed because the MSM is 'out to get her'; I often wonder if she understands that if she becomes a viable candidate, she WILL have to do interviews, with many different outlets, and will be asked questions she will have to answer. As someone running for public office, she should expect no less, and certainly receive no special treatment.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:00PM
Wow, just wow.
Maybe it's because you people don't watch, read, or listen to anything from Palin herself.
All your sources are secondhand.
Did you listen to her resignation speeches on 7/2 and 7/26?
Did you read her book?
Did you listen to any of her dozens of interviews during the campaign? Yes, I said during the campaign? Did you know that in the last 2 weeks, she did more interviews than any of the other candidates?
Try primary sources?
And try not doubting everything the primary source says...
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:19PM
Yes, I have read and listened to her. I have no idea why Sarah Palin quit her job. Please explain it to me. Thanks.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:24PM
Jack, come on. This has been covered over and over again. Let me ask you, if you had a job where something you did in every given week would prompt a formal ethics investigation on a totally frivolous charge, to which you had to pay for your own legal defense even though you knew you would be exonerated, and you knew it wasn't going to stop, and you knew you would be bankrupted by the legal fees, and you had no time to actually do your job... would you stay in that job?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 8:43PM
Trouble is, that's what Sarah Palin SAID the problems were -- and so many of the statements she's made even as far back as her mayoral days in Wasilla have been shown to be not entirely truthful -- it's hard to take what she said about her 2-1/2 years as governor at face value.
Even the amount she said for the state of Alaska's expenses for her ethics complaints investigations was so hyperinflated that it was fact-checked, and found to be grossly wrong, in that many fees were counted twice and three times over, and that some fees that would have been paid anyway -- as normal day to day business -- were added in the ethics complaint investigation fees.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:47PM
More lies from the Palin stalker.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 8:32AM
KarenJ sez: "so many of the statements she's made even as far back as her mayoral days in Wasilla have been shown to be not entirely truthful -- it's hard to take what she said about her 2-1/2 years as governor at face value. "
So 87% of the Alaska voters were ignorant fools?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KarenJ| 1.10.10 @ 7:27PM
You do realize, don't you, that only 114,697 citizens of Alaska actually voted for Sarah Palin for governor, don't you? Out of a total 521,000 eligible Alaskan voters?
Your 87% approval rating (right after the $1,200 PFD unexpected additional rebate she authorized) amounts to 99,786 Alaskans...
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:09PM
No one more deserving of everything bad than you, moron. You will get yours. And it won't be good.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 4:48PM
I bet you also think her FaceBook posts are of her own...
THINK AGAIN! Her book was written by a ghost writer, and she has SEVERAL ghostwriters on her FaceBook.
Proof?
A) listen to her when she speaks unscripted. Totally unintelligible word salad.
B) The style of writing changes often, and certain writers will put tons and tons of references at the end of their post - $arah has no idea what those references are there for (as shown in her book of lies, where she could not even get herself to put an itinerary/reference/source list)
C) When Hannity asked her in his recent interview about a recent post on her FB, she totally got the deer-in-headlight look, and could not answer, because she did not know what was in that particular post.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:15PM
A lot of these trolls are Myth Romneybots. I think Romney is a snake in the grass; after all, "Myth" is the republican insider favorite.
Sarah will be our party's standard-bearer in 2012--just wait and see. Romney is a RINO responsible for Mass. RomneyCare--no thanks.
Romney is just a Republican Obama.
Glen| 1.8.10 @ 6:33PM
A) Nobody speaks like they write. Nobody.
B) The style of writing changes depending on her purpose. When she's saying Happy Birthday to Margaret Thatcher or wishing her supporters a Merry Christmas, she writes differently than when she is developing a scholarly argument against the writings of Zeke Emanual.
C) The recent interview with Hannity was on the radio. Where do you see the way she looked?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 8:33PM
Jack sez:
Unfortunately, no one knows for sure why Palin does anything"
So, Hope n' Change (tm) has made you so poor that you can't afford a book written by the next President of the United States? How sad.
Just go back to sleep. We'll wake you when it's all over.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:24AM
I listened to her resignation speech last July. Sorry--if she can't explain it in English on the day she quits, she loses. A serious mature candidate is always able to communicate.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:29AM
Give it up Romneybot. Your boy's a RINO loser--he'll never get elected.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 2:38PM
"Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:24AM
I listened to her resignation speech last July. Sorry--if she can't explain it in English on the day she quits, she loses. A serious mature candidate is always able to communicate. "
Maybe she needed a teleprompter.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:06PM
It's hard enough to listen to Sarah Palin screech through a radio or television interview (most recently, Sean Hannity, when she babbled over her old worn-out debunked "Lie of the Year" talking points), but it's nearly unbearable to listen through a John Ziegler commentary. Every fifth word from that man is "I", "my", "me" or "mine". Did he mention his Palin documentary again?
(I DIDN'T watch the video)
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:27PM
"(I DIDN'T watch the video) "
That's OK by me.
LOL!!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:17PM
Karen's a "B." She hates Palin and I think she works for Romney.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:10PM
You're batting .000 so far, Holmby.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:29PM
Watch those thunder thighs when you walk, girl! Friction's a killer!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:17PM
You are right on target!
Cronopio| 1.8.10 @ 1:34PM
It's simple...CPAC isn't paying her. If you think she'll show up anywhere without a paycheck, you haven't been paying attention.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:22PM
spot on
Shane Vander Hart| 1.8.10 @ 3:39PM
That is just an ignorant comment to make. She has spoken at several charity events before and after being the Governor of Alaska.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:17PM
I'm not interested in the "before" events -- I know she spoke at that "Right to Life" event in Indiana right in the middle of the Alaska legislative session, which only lasts 60 days.
But what about "after" she quit "being the Governor"? She disappeared right after the Quit Speech July 26 for six weeks, ostensibly to go down to San Diego and write her book (where the uncredited Lynn Vincent lives) but it's known that Palin had plastic surgery while she was in California, and need that time out of the public eye to heal up (she actually still had problems with healing even during the book tour -- an abscess near her right ear).
She flew to Hong Kong for a speech Sept 23rd, and every speech since then has had a price tag. She's had a lot of publicity about FUTURE so-called charity functions, but none have come to pass, including that meal with the eBay winner or Laura Ingraham's charity or the Canadian children's charity.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:32PM
I smell ...... liberal fear.
Smells like ... 2012
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:37PM
Who cares about liberal fear? Let's grow up and get a real conservative with some knowledge, a good governing résumé, & momentum. Taunting makes all conservatives look bad. It's hurting the conservative brand & identity. Conservative is not a bad word!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:19PM
Go away, Jack! Don't you Palin haters get it by now?
The more you attack her the more we support her.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:50PM
Holmby, I really don't care what you do. I care about conservatism and leadership.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:49PM
Sure, RINO Jack; you wouldn't know Conservatism if it bit you on the backside.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:58PM
How does your comment progress the conservative cause?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:31PM
How does your BS progress Romney's candidacy?
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:21AM
You can't answer a question, huh? Too tough for you to define how your current actions are helping the conservative cause?
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:26AM
Hush, clown. Romney's a RINO loser. Everyone knows it, too.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:16PM
Plastic Surgery? Really?
That is the new theme with you whacko lunatics?
Her natural beauty just drives you nuts doesn't it?
Let's see some pictures of you darling, so we may compare who needs the artificial face? Hahahaha
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:06PM
Sarah's beauty radiates from within--that's why libs hate her.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:13PM
Compare some of her 2008 pictures face-forward with some of the pictures from September 2009 and thereafter.
She's lost that "salmon jaw" she was famous for (that's why I think she suffered an abscess near her right ear most of the book tour). Her eyebrows are different (Botox?), and her chin is quite a bit different, more pointed, less rounded.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:36PM
You must be the ugliest porker around. You're truly pathetic and I pity you.
Palin doesn't even know you're alive, that you even exist, and you are consumed by hatred for her.
Your obsession with her is sick, frightening, actually. You need professional help.
When she becomes President, you should be on the Secret Service threat list.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:20AM
More ad hominem ugliness.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:25AM
Look in the mirror for ugliness, troll.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 7:31PM
Karen, What is wrong with plastic surgery?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:51PM
Karen's just pi$$ed off because all of the plastic surgery in the world couldn't help her ugly face.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:59PM
A run for the presidency is not about beauty pageants. Get serious if you want to sit at the grown-ups table.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:17PM
Then, I wonder why #9 "good looking" is one of the 10 attributes of the "best candidate" in AKR's list ( @ 1.8.10 @ 3:30PM above)?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:38PM
Look, nitwit, your friend, Karen is the one obsessed with Sarah's looks.
Both of you should be in the nut house.
Annnie Rhys-Davis| 1.8.10 @ 1:35PM
It is apparently escaping the notice of LOTS of GOP good ole boys and girls that way down here in voter land folks are fed up with CPAC.
Checked their donations lately?
kingfish| 1.8.10 @ 1:39PM
Smart move to stay away. What the hell is CPAC thinking including the Birchers? I don't blame her at all if she is looking at a future run.
Just taw the video right above this comment. I'm sure this is reflective of Keene and there is a great deal we don't know. I'm not going to question Palin's judgement on this one.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:21PM
Are you aware that Palin has been a Bircher for years?
Not to stir up anything here, just adding some hometown facts to the debate.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:05PM
Not to stir anything up?
Ha. You make me laugh.
Hometown facts.
I'm rolling.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:21PM
Mae, the only thing hometown about you is the size of your humongous rear end. Troll.
Scott| 1.8.10 @ 1:55PM
Did you criticize Keene when he called Palin: "Whining." " Rock star." " Not ready for primetime." "More difficult to envision than it was at the time of the election." He said it in July, 2009, so it's not ancient history. Maybe you called Keene out on it, and I didn't catch it.
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....31254.html
If Keene wasn't tainted with Fed Ex, Arlen Specter and Birchers, not to mention his affection for her possible competitor, Romney, and therefore possibly willing to smear her as other Romney advisers did before the election was over, it might be a bit easier to question Palin's motives. So what exactly is her motivation to attend CPAC? To act like they are actually part of the conservative movement? Wait. They got the Birchers in. That's pretty conservative, I guess.
Thomas| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
CPAC is largely obsolete. It is becoming politically mainstream is in fact in business simply to benefit the organizers and the Republican Party. John McCain was a speaker at last year's CPAC and there is no one who would ever accuse him of being conservative.
If I was a conservative running for national office on a conservative platform, the last place I would appear is at CPAC. They are largely irrelevent.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:17PM
When will folks on the national level understand that Palin likes to drum up controversy? That is the name of the game she plays. Look I was born and raised inWasilla and Palin thrives on makin, takin and creating fights. Everything she has done in her career is based on makin fights, fighting the good people fight... think about it, think about her past involvement in events... She makes a controversy of the simplest questions asked in a roundtable canidate forum. When there is no need for one and when no other canidate plays that fightin game. If others do no engage in the fight she tries to well-up, then they are not mainstream and/or corrupt.
Palin has a pattern, like most political figures, however unlike most political figures, she enjoys the fist fights over her.
sue| 1.8.10 @ 3:44PM
just keep F*ucking that chicken.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:06PM
So presumably you've enjoyed living and benefitting from the fastest growing area in Alaska?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:20PM
So you two enjoy interjecting non sequiturs into the discussion?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
What discussion? You're a friggin' troll; you want chaos not discussion. Buzz off.
Trugh| 1.8.10 @ 7:28PM
Mae, We are women, hear us roar in numbers too big to ignore.
Ken (Old Texican)| 1.8.10 @ 2:23PM
Hi Mae.
Are you the loonytunes that kept filing nusance suits against Sarah up there?
Yep
Thought so.
She was kind enough to leave your name out of it.
I ain't.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 2:45PM
Ken, you seem to be a plain-spoken fellow, so understand when I say that a useful motto for Mrs. Palin's fans should be 'Nothing to hide? Then nothing to fear.', I mean just that. If you're operating from a position of truth and integrity, then there is no need to fear or respond to comments that you don't like. When fans like yourself respond to comments about or criticisms of Mrs. Palin with either insults or threats, it doesn't help your cause or Mrs. Palin's credibility. It's how some folks ended up with the moniker 'wing-nut'.
Mae| 1.8.10 @ 2:46PM
No.
So are you one of those Palin supporters that uses fists instead of facts?
alwaysfiredup| 1.8.10 @ 3:21PM
I find my fists to be incredibly useful when typing comments on a blog.
james| 1.8.10 @ 3:45PM
are you high?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:21PM
Are you done adding nothing to the discussion?
Crissy| 1.8.10 @ 5:35PM
Are you done being a C*unt?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:16PM
Please don't. For all you know the libtard piece of crud is a guy.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:27PM
No, she WASN'T "kind enough". In fact, in that book you apparently haven't read yet, she indulged herself in several childish "mean girl" snide insults to the woman who has filed so many ethics violation complaints against her and who was DOING HER JOB when she pointed out the inappropriate dress of Palin's administrative staff.
In fact, there were so many "mean girl" insults to so many hard-working people in both Alaska politics and national politics, it's a wonder anyone will have anything to do with Sarah Palin.
The only outlet for her continued childish tantrums and railing against authority is the Teabagger movement -- so it's no surprise she's latched onto them as her new "base".
Good luck with that, O'Sarah. Someone hit the lever about the time your book was published, and the vortex is about to suck you down.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:34PM
Hey, hon', you're the poster girl for liberal fear, ain't cha' !!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:26PM
Nasty troll and her nasty comments--only teabaggers around her are you liberal perverts. Must be why you always bring it up.
Liberal Reader| 1.8.10 @ 2:46PM
Mr Hillyer,
You write opinions here that drive me up the wall. But I have to hand it to you: you've got guts. How many conservatives are willing to go on record criticizing Palin?
Naturally, you'll be accused of a "vicious attack" against Palin. (There is no such thing as a plain "attack" on Palin. Only "vicious attack.")
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
Yeah -- when O'Sarah attacks someone else, it's always with her pure and good motives, also, too.
Like, does anyone ever ask themselves why she's constantly comparing herself to President Obama (challenging him to a race, which she'd LOSE now that we know she has cottage-cheese thighs), and constantly dissing him by not calling him by his title, and issuing these one-way, behind-the-Oz-curtain Facebook screeds every three days -- as if she needs a "national attention fix" that often?
Her fans certainly don't. But the rest of us, who take everything she says with a grain of salt because she's proven to stretch the truth a great deal of the time, are beginning to ask, why does anyone pay any attention at all to this woman?
She's ignorant, reactionary, narcissistic, childish, defensive, whiny, untrusting, stubborn, willful -- just ask Steve Schmidt -- or better yet, listen to him on 60 Minutes this upcoming Sunday.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:29PM
You're out of your mind. I hope you've been spayed so you don't pass your defective genes down.
Screw Schmidt--he's got no credibility with Conservatives. Only a moron wouldn't know that.
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 5:34PM
Steve Schmidt, noted authority, seer, and wizard.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:18PM
Wizard of what? Losing. The guy's a turd.
Thanks but no thanks.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 10:54PM
KarenJ sez: "why does anyone pay any attention at all to this woman? "
Admission that you have a problem is the first step to recovery. Go to a mirror, look deep into your eyes and repeat 20 times:
"why does anyone pay any attention at all to this woman?"
You'll be making an important first step.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 3:16AM
LOL!
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Clifton B| 1.8.10 @ 3:13PM
The truth is CPAC needs Palin a whole lot more than Palin needs CPAC. Ask yourself this question, what does CPAC offer Palin that she doesn't already have. A platform to spread her views? She's already has one. An opportunity to connect to the grassroots? She practically has the base already sewed up. An opportunity to compete against the other 2012 hopefuls? There isn't a single other Republican moving in her orbit. So why is everyone so shocked that Palin said "thanks but no thanks" to CPAC for whatever reason she wants?
Palin2012| 1.8.10 @ 3:15PM
How much does Romney pay you?
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:17PM
Palin was Smart not to go. Birchers . nuff said.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:26PM
Has she changed her position on the JBS? When she was mayor of Wasilla, she was pro-Bircher. Right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:31PM
No one cares about your phony questions, dude--you're too late and your sneaky tactics won't work.
Palin 2012
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:17PM
What is sneaky about my question? The facts are she supported the JBS in the 90's. If you have evidence that shows otherwise, please link.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:56PM
Jack, give it up. The more you lie and besmirch Governor Palin, the more we support her.
Keep it up if you want to help her become president.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:00PM
Do you have a link proving otherwise, dear?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:40PM
A link to your lies?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:09PM
Jack sez: "The facts are she supported the JBS in the 90's. If you have evidence that shows otherwise, please link. "
Well, you got me there. I haven't proved any negatives lately, Jack. I guess I'm a little rusty.
Maybe you can show us ignorant Palin-Billies the strawman ... err ...'facts' that she was a member of the John Birch Society.
We are quivering in anticipation of your reply, Jack.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:22PM
Now who's got the strawman argument?
Jack said "she SUPPORTED the JBS in the 90's"
You said, "show us ignorant Palin-Billies the....'facts' that she was a MEMBER of the JBS".
Just like her support of the AIP, she doesn't have to be a MEMBER to be a supporter. Keeps the ol' political slate clean, ya know, just in case...
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:41PM
Romney will NEVER be president. We will make sure of it.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:18AM
Have you opened up your own modern Oracle of Delphi stand or do you use a crystal ball? Ouija Board? Tarot cards? How much do you charge to look into the future and make your cogent political predictions? Romney has a ton more cash than Palin does, and a lot more experience.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:22AM
I'm a Christian--I'm not into that satanic crap.
Romney is a RINO and is responsible for RomneyCare which destroyed Massachusetts' economy. He's a disaster!
He's the Republican Obama--that's going to work out great for him. Oh yeah!
AKR| 1.8.10 @ 3:18PM
Keene is a corrupt beltway hack.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 3:23PM
Liberal Reader:
"Naturally, you'll be accused of a "vicious attack" against Palin."
If you are a liberal, I would strongly suggest that you view the short videos I have linked a few posts above this one.
The videos and the article here on Spectator, show what currently passes for the 'conservative' movement. Spread the links far and wide to the liberal sites. It's disgusting.
I would be called an old-time conservative. A paleo-conservative, with a bit of small-l Libertarian in me. Pat Buchanan, Reagan, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Bill Buckley etc.would be my heroes. Not Gingrich, Romney, McCain, Huckabee, Bushes, etc..
Go check out the video and you'll gain some insight into what the 'conservative' movement has become. It will be instructive for you.
Pete Callaro| 1.8.10 @ 3:27PM
You wrote:
But this bit about David Keene and Fed Ex/UPS (read the link for explanations of these references to specific issues) was dealt with months ago, and Keene certainly explained it to my satisfaction and to the satisfaction of most conservative bloggers as well.
The point is, in this time of blatant bribes throughout the Halls of Congress, Palin is making a statement that she will have to live up to. NO DEALS. We who need a leader we can trust will watch to see how she lives up to that commitment.
Now I don't say she doesn't have any other agenda but don't we all? Isn't that the difference between Strategy and Tatics .
Joe| 1.8.10 @ 3:29PM
Sarah Palin is ditching CPAC because the Birchers are a co-host. Smart move, dumb? My guess it is the smart move, given that the Birchers, while I sympathize with their little "l" libertarianism, are a bit odd. Plus, it is probably wise for a conservative to quietly ask themselves before an important decision: "What would WFB, Jr. do?" (Christopher Buckley might consider that). I mean, I may have disagreements about Ike, but I do not think he was a Communist.
Meanwhile the racism is so tasty!
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Shane Vander Hart| 1.8.10 @ 3:43PM
I guess the fact she's speaking at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans means nothing. Like CPAC is the only venue or something
Exactly how did Keene satisfy you? As far as I'm concerned if ACU doesn't dump him they, along with CPAC, are fast becoming irrelevant.
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 2:18AM
Blue Dog is a dirtbag.
Bluedog AK| 1.8.10 @ 3:53PM
@Jeff: " 'Advice for Gov. Palin' would seem to be a more appropriate title."
Newsflash: She's NOT the governor any more, and as an Alaskan I resent the way people try to pretend she has any standing at all up here. She quit. She blew us off and tried to pretend it was for our good and not hers. She loved being governor and disliked governing. She wanted to cash in on her fame, and she wanted to create more fame so she could make even more money. She used the ethics complaints as a pretext, and she put out incomplete and incorrect information about how much the complaints cost to make herself into a victim. (The complaint she filed against herself to avoid the established process cost far, far more than any other complaint. She fails to mention that.) If people knew how casually and constantly she lies, they'd be scanning the horizon for somebody with demonstrabe integrity to lead the way.
But too many people are not willing to look honestly at Palin's actions and words because, let's face it, it's pretty sad being a conservative these days, and she makes it seem all fiery and fun.
But you need to ask yourselves: If she found it that easy and convenient to break her oath to serve her "beloved" Alaskans, what makes you think she's not going to leave you in the lurch for her own self-interest? Why is she so afraid to leave her Facebook foxhole and stand behind her words (assuming she wrote them, which seems highly unlikely)? Why does she play these coy little games instead of being forthright and honest about her plans?
Call me names, but if you really think you're a conservative, you'll do some deep research, listen to some of her knowledgeable critics, and consider whether it's remotely possible that Mrs. Palin has nobody's interests but her own at heart.
Good for her, getting rich and famous. It's the American way. But for her to continue piously claiming she has a "servant's heart" is patent BS.
hrh| 1.8.10 @ 4:11PM
Thanks for that, Democrat. I'm very interested in hearing your opinion, Democrat.
And Alaskan, I'm glad to know you don't mind wasting $2 million dollars plus the salaries of all the state staffers who are s'posed to be working for you, but are instead tied up working for about 5 Alaskans who collectively filed more than 20 ethics complaints and I don't know how many FOIAs. I guess you're sad that you won't have to be paying those dollars anymore and that your state staffers can get back to working for you now. I feel for you, Alaskan.
Oh and BTW? Another one of those lawsuits was dismissed. Just this week.
I'm sure you're thrilled about it.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:32PM
Why would you blame Sarah Palin's ethics issues on her AK constituency? Lawsuits and ethics violations are two different things.
Lots of other GOP governors have good records in regards to ethics.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:33PM
Nice try, troll. Too late, your sneaky tactics won't work--Palin is in the clear and we know it.
William Henley, Wasilla| 1.8.10 @ 5:27PM
Bluedog AK, She quit and saved Alaskans millions of dollars as well as saving herself some money. She did NOT quit on Alaskans and it is apparent that you are a dirt ball pretty much like Andres micweasel or whatever the ethics lair b*tch is. Tsk, Tsk
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:36PM
She spent nearly a million dollars and logged thousands of miles just flying around the state to multiple Governor's Picnics just to say goodbye.
She said she wasn't going to do that, per her resignation speech: "I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and 'milk it'. I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That's not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old 'politics as usual.' I promised that four years ago - and I meant it."
That's TWICE she said "four years ago"! In another part of her speech: "I promised even four years ago to show MY independence... no more conventional "politics as usual".
Four years prior to her resignation speech, she was a private citizen. She wasn't even RUNNING for governor then.
She insisted on being called Governor at the Mall of America, and who knows where else, but said this in her resignation speech: "I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference..."
She also confused the USA's national debt with the deficit, apparently: " Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm America - I resisted those dollars because of the obscene national debt we're forcing our children to pay, because of today's Big Government spending..."
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:43PM
All the lies in the world won't make Romney president. Count on it.
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:32PM
Cry baby...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjD4eWEUgMM
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:33PM
^^ post was to BlueDoggie^^
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 7:16PM
Bluedog AK, Did you watch her speech on July 3rd? There was nothing easy about her giving that speech and resigning as Gov. Gov. Palin was sad, upset, and mad as hell. Did she spoil your plans?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:29PM
Bluedog AK sez: "She quit. She blew us off and tried to pretend it was for our good and not hers."
Mr BlueDog, did you ever see that Charlie Brown cartoon where Lucy tees up a football for Charlie to kick and then yanks it away at the last moment and Charlie falls on his a-ss?
http://tinyurl.com/y8c8gxp
Lucy is Sarah and Charlie is the MSM/Liberals. The football is a stack of *worthless, baseless, expensive* court cases that would have cost her and you mucho bucks. You should be grateful to Sarah for saving you a pile of money, BlueDog.
Also, and most importantly, she could never win the Presidency now, after that quitting stunt, could she? So, just don't worry about her. She's harmless.
Right?
Tennessee1942| 1.8.10 @ 9:46PM
BlueDog AK sez:
"let's face it, it's pretty sad being a conservative these days"
Well, I have to respectfully disagree. November is going to be a conserva-gasm . . . and then Sarah in 2012 . I wonder who will be the most effective campaigner this year. Sarah or Obama?
I am betting that many Dem candidates won't want to be associated with him, but hey that's just me.
As for Sarah's appearances, well... back in the day, did you ever go to a Rolling Stones concert?
Something like that.
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:15PM
Quin has no idea what he is talking about. Do you want the conservative movement associated with the john birch society, 9-11 conspiracies, birth certificates, and a host of other kooky things?
Why should Sarah Palin be associated with a group that apparently has no problem the things I just mentioned?
Jeez, you are dense buddy.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:24PM
Surely you jest? Mrs. Palin is the keynote speaker at the Teabagger convention in Nashville. Talk about a 'host of other kooky things'. They just yanked the walker right out from under the JBS and ran past it into 2010.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:35PM
Nice language smut mouth. Your nastiness is not welcome here.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Nastiness? I believe I've read many times that this is the name of this group, self-named. People at the rallies wear teabag hats and called themselves teabaggers. Speaking of nice language, I am surprised at this comment coming from you, after the truly inappropriate replies you've been posting here to people who are stating their opinions: you are calling people fat, trolls, "B", and commenting on their physical appearance. You can disagree without degenerating into childish name-calling. Just think how much smarter it makes you look, which wouldn't hurt. And not welcome here? I'm sorry, is this your personal blog? Your house? Place of business? Thought not. Suck it up and relish the freedoms of the First Amendment.
Dick_Nixon| 1.8.10 @ 6:01PM
People at the rallies wear teabag hats and called themselves teabaggers.
Laura, do you get your talking points from Ko$, DU, or FireLakeDog?
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:25PM
No, from watching Fox News, CNN, and my local news station when the group had a rally here! No clue what those places are that you mentioned... I actually saw people with those hats! They called themselves TeaBaggers. What is the issue with that?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 6:22PM
You're still a smut mouth, troll; easy liberal chicks like you are proud of it, right?
Own it, liberal pervert.
You're probably a foul smelling, fat girl, too.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
Please get your hands out of your pants when typing these comments. I'm sure it makes you feel better, but it's limiting your creativity with the insults.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:55PM
Ooooh, so clever! Mature too!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:09PM
Laura sounds like she knows what she's talking about!
Tennessee1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:18PM
Sarah doesn't have to bypass CPAC because of Bircher involvement. She has -plenty- of other reasons to not be associated with CPAC as it currently exists.
In the following 3 videos, you will understand why no serious REAL grassroots conservative would support CPAC:
3 short Youtube videos:
http://tinyurl.com/yd7djtk
C Bowen| 1.8.10 @ 4:20PM
Good point, Dan. CPAC has many people who think Saddam Hussein had scary weapons and was about to invade Ohio--tin foil hat conspiracy theorists, indeed.
Siegfried X| 1.8.10 @ 4:20PM
"The Tea Party Convention is being organized by Tea Party Nation, a for-profit company that runs a social networking website for activists, but is not considered a leading group in the Tea Party movement. It’s paying for Palin’s fee (reported to be in the low six figures) and other overhead by selling tickets (at $560 a pop) and by offering sponsorships, in some cases for $50,000 each."
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 7:08PM
You people can't let this Tea Party thing happen can you? Sarah Palin and sponors at 50,000. That is hugh!
We know that anything Sarah touches, turns to gold.
I feel your pain!
I understand your pain.
David| 1.8.10 @ 4:25PM
You group of republican elites should stop your whining.Get used to being snubbed by her and the rest of us out here.Who could not care less what you people think.Get ready for your RINO butts to be tossed into further irrelivance this year.No one cares what you beltway boys think. You had your chances to fix Americas problems and you helped cause most of them. By voting with democrats on key issues.Fred&Fran; is just one of the things you RINOs supported with democrats you stopped reforms 3 times.Greed is the only word you guys understand.Change is here,get used to it and the words bye bye.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:38PM
A lot of the trolls are Romneybots; they're real stinkers.
RINO Romney will never be president.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:40PM
Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are two of the three people I would never ever vote for. Sarah Palin is the other one.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:45PM
Sure, Romneybot.
Cheapie| 1.8.10 @ 5:42PM
Republican elites are as repulsive as the liberal elites. The Rino hacks, pundits, lobbyists, and DC social flitters are a big part of the problem. In 2008 McCain could not exploit the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac corruption because so many republican hacks were also implicated in taking lobby money, board of director perks etc.
princetrumpet| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
Sorry to disappoint you but this isn't hate mail, either. I do, however, applaud, Gov. Palin's choice to sit out of the CPAC for her reasons. She has been and remains principled to the last. Refreshing.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 5:01PM
When will you get it through you thick head that SHE IS NOT A GOVERNOR ANYMORE - and SHE QUIT HALFWAYS THROUGH HER TERM, so she could make $$$$$!!!
SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THE TITLE 'GOVERNOR', because SHE QUIT!!!!
SHE IS A QUITTER!!!
james| 1.8.10 @ 5:17PM
YOUR A DUMBF*UCK
Margie| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
Proving once again that Liberalism is a mental disorder!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:41PM
Bonehead G$$ could be a Romney bot. RINO Romney, RomneyCare--just what we DON'T need.
Go Sarah 2012!
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:04PM
She resigned so you keep the title. Why is that so thick for you to understand?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:42PM
She said in her resignation speech she didn't NEED the title.
Sarah Palin, July 3, 2009: "I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference..."
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:14AM
WHY do you care, loser?
DJ| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
I won't vote for Palin but I understand why she refused to stand in the same room as the John Birch Society. CPAC only exists to make conservatives look foolish. It was founded by a criminal.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 4:28PM
Get over yourself, Quin. Why be so inflammatory? As Leigh said, we're over pundits, pundettes, and politicians telling us how and what to think.
Palin is not kowtowing to anyone and making her own decisions. It's people like Newt, Steele and the GOP aides who need to get over themselves and just maybe get a clue about how hopelessly disconnected they are from the conservative minds who want our country back. Seen the AmericaRising video? Even if you don't care for the vid...the title is apt. America is rising.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:43PM
Great post, Karen! Quin's been drinking Potomac River water; it's hard to think clearly when you have Inside the Beltway fever!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:29PM
I love the fradulant conservatives here who run down Palin. Let me guess, your 100% behind Romney or Pawlenty or some other loser that will GROW GOVERNMENT!
CPAC aint what it used to be. AMNESTY McCain spoke at it for gods sake! What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you frauds, liars, or just left wingers who have come over here to sow discontent?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 4:34PM
SarahPAC donated $ to John McCain. Palin supports John McCain.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 4:39PM
D'OH!!!!
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:44PM
So your saying Palin is a liberal now? She isnt conservative enough for CPAC and their jesse jackson shakedown routine, and 9-11 conspiracies? Perfect.
Donating money to an american hero who she personally likes, has nothing to do with an organization inviting every amnesty loving, 9-11 conspiracy lunatic to speak.
Do you understand what will happen if she goes there? She will be branded a birther and 9-11 truther for the rest of her life. But you do not care about that do you? You want her to be hurt.
Great$$$| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
Check out what she actually spent her SarahPAC$$$ on:
http://palinquestions.blogspot.....ey-ii.html
Only a total of $10,000 were spent on campaign contributions. The rest went to people associated with her!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:44PM
Lying sack of cr@p--why would we believe any of the BS you spew?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:45PM
Well, one answer would be, it might prove you have some intellectual powers left after whatever indoctrination you've gone through.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 10:14PM
Sure, Karen the Triple Thunder Thigh Threat.
I have no respect for losers like you and I'd never waste my time arguing with you. You anonymous, gutless, lying trolls are a dime a dozen.
Joie| 1.9.10 @ 12:00AM
u r so rite, Great$$$. If you gave $100 to SarahPac, McCain got 50 cents! Chek it out! Sarah's Frends & famly made out like bandits.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:12AM
You gutless cowards are a riot. Publik Skool Gradyates, all.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 12:39PM
Why is "grow government" the ultimate litmus test of whom should be considered a legitimate, honorable, principled conservative?
As population increases, isn't it inevitable that government will "grow"? As new problems emerge that cross state boundaries and affect millions of people -- isn't it inevitable that principled conservative politicians will want to resolve those problems and, in the process, that might involve government activity?
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dr kill| 1.8.10 @ 4:29PM
She's not a conservative, she is libertarian. CPAC is blinkers on, she has them off. Stop whining. You people are not relevant anymore, that's what she wants you to understand.
laddy| 1.8.10 @ 4:35PM
CPAC is a corruptocrat org ruled by establishment insiders that most of us outside the beltway have had enough of in this lifetime. I don't think you have a clue what most of us cons outside the beltway think of you and the rest of the group of insiders. The very fact that Birchers are allowed to sponsor is enough to reject the entire group based on that alone.
Michael| 1.8.10 @ 4:40PM
The idea that Sarah is not attending CPAC due to the Bircher sponsorship is bull. She had a Bircher working the waiting line at her book signing in Wasilla 2 weeks ago. I really feel it's a petty disagreement with Keene, that people are misunderstanding as some sort of policy stand.
Dan| 1.8.10 @ 4:45PM
Keene is an ASS AND A LIAR. That is good enough reason for me, but there are others as well.
Michael | 1.8.10 @ 4:53PM
Of course you are entitled to your opinion! I just want to clarify that Sarah Palin does not appear to have a problem with the Birchers, and I think people are jumping to conclusions to say that's the reason no CPAC.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:46PM
CPAC is corrupt--that's why Sarah's not attending.
Go Palin 2012!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:56PM
Do you know her?
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:53PM
Do you?
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:02PM
No, but I'm not putting words in her mouth.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:46PM
Neither am I, moron.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:13AM
Holmby wrote, @5:46: "CPAC is corrupt--that's why Sarah's not attending."
Sarah Palin never said that. You ARE putting words in her mouth. Let the lady speak for herself.
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 3:25AM
It's my OPINION, moron--you know Freedom of Speech? I didn't say those were Sarah's words, did I? You're putting words in my mouth.
Dipstick Romneybot, he's never going to get elected. Stooge.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 1:03PM
Michael: I hope your interpretation is not correct -- because if, like Cong. Ron Paul, Sarah decides at some point to explicitly endorse the Birch Society -- then it will be the end of whatever chance she has for a further political career.
As I previously stated in a message posted here, most people are clueless about the underlying ideology which informs JBS thinking.
SO THE QUESTION IS: Does Sarah Palin buy into these JBS premises?
For example: In 2002, the JBS published a new edition of JBS founder Robert Welch's so-called "private letter", entitled The Politician. The JBS describes this edition on the back cover as "perhaps the most devestating expose of the last century" because it "tells the bitter, but little known, truth" about our postwar history.
Among the "truths" which the JBS wants everyone to read and believe is that President Eisenhower and virtually all of our political leaders and government officials during the past 8 decades have been traitors and conspirators.
And to bring this message into contemporary history, the back cover of the 2002 edition states:
"But most importantly The Politician exposes that 'conspiracy of gangsters' which even now is setting America's foreign and domestic policy."
The "conspiracy of gangsters" quote is lifted from the following comment by Welch in The Politician:
"To paraphrase Elizabeth Churchill Brown, 'the only enemies the American people have to fear are the enemies in their midst.' The most conspicuous and injurious of these enemies today, I believe, is named Dwight David Eisenhower. He is either a willing agent, or an integral and important part, of a conspiracy of gangsters determined to rule the world at any cost.”
So the “conspiracy of gangsters” idea is not a reference to honest mistakes made by decent, honorable, principled individuals. Instead, it is a reference to traitors and conspirators who want to impose a world-wide tyranny and whom, therefore, are not legitimate competitors – but profound enemies of our way of life.
If you check my report on the JBS at http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1 which is based upon FBI files and documents you will see scanned copies of pages 266-269 of the unpublished edition of The Politician which contains the statements by Welch in which he described President Eisenhower as a Communist traitor.
Incidentally, the themes, assertions, arguments, and evidence in The Politician differ not one iota from the themes, assertions, arguments and evidence used in JBS literature since its inception -- so it is quite disingenuous to propose that there was ever some sort of distinction between what the JBS believes versus what Mr. Welch wrote in his so-called "private letter".
For example: in private remarks to the first meeting of his JBS National Council on January 9, 1960, at the Union League Club in Chicago, Welch made these observations about the gravity of our situation:
“From a careful and realistic study of the mountainous pile of evidence that is there for all to see, certain terrifying conclusions are objectively inescapable. Among them are:
(1) The Communists are winning their large victories, as they always have, through the cumulative effect of small gains;
(2) They make these gains chiefly through the conniving assistance of many of the very diplomats and officials who are supposed to be opposing them;
(3) Communist influences are now in almost complete working control of our government;
(4) And hence, the United States Government is today, as it has been for many years, the most important and powerful single force promoting the world-wide Communist advance.” [A Confidential Report To Members Of The Council of The John Birch Society – minutes of 1/9/60 meeting held at Union League Club in Chicago IL, page 1-2; minutes signed by Robert Welch.]
Furthermore, according to the minutes of this meeting, Robert Welch stated:
"Today, gentlemen, I can assure you, without the slightest doubt in my own mind that the takeover at the top is, for all practical purposes, virtually complete. Whether you like it or not, or whether you believe it or not, our Federal Government is already, literally in the hands of the Communists." [Ibid, page 2]
"In our two states with the largest population, New York and California ...already the two present Governors are almost certainly actual Communists...Our Congress now contains a number of men like Adam Clayton Powell of New York and Charles Porter of Oregon, who are certainly actual Communists, and plenty more who are sympathetic to Communist purposes for either ideological or opportunistic reasons." [Ibid, page 7] [Note: the reference to Governors refers to Edmund G. Brown of California and Nelson Rockefeller of New York.]
"In the Senate, there are men like Stephen Young of Ohio, and Wayne Morse of Oregon, McNamara of Michigan, and Clifford Case of New Jersey and Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Estes Kefauver of Tennessee and John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts, whom it is utter folly to think of as just liberals. Every one of those men is either an actual Communist or so completely a Communist sympathizer or agent that it makes no practical difference..." [Ibid, page 8]
“Our Supreme Court, dominated by Earl Warren and Felix Frankfurter and Hugo Black, is so visibly pro-Communist that no argument is even needed…And our federal courts below that level…are in many cases just as bad.” [Ibid, page 8]
"Our State Department is loaded with Communists from top to bottom, to the extent that our roll call of Ambassadors almost sounds like a list somebody has put together to start a Communist front." ... [Ibid, page 8]
"It is estimated from many reliable sources that from 70% to 90% of the responsible personnel in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare are Communists. Our Central Intelligence Agency under Allen Dulles is nothing more or less than an agency to promote Communism throughout the world...Almost all the other Departments are loaded with Communists and Communist sympathizers. And this generalization most specifically does include our whole Defense Department." [Ibid, page 8]
keyboard jockey| 1.8.10 @ 4:41PM
Looks like the GOP is going to have to actually WORK for their votes this election cycle. Self Indulgent much, taking so many people's votes for granted? SEE Posturing as the lesser of two evils, and failing miserably. And now a whine fest ensues. I don't know many Conservatives that identify with the Republican Party, shooting itself in the foot, than wanting sympathy for the consequences. Self Indulgent much? 10% unemployment, 2 wars, out of control spending by an out of control congress, how about that panty bomber? Isn't our National Security Agencies Great/SARC. How about our culture - has your teenager brought home his fisting pamphlet from public school yet, maybe he can graduate and get a job with the TSA? I am supposed to feel sorry for the Republicans? Because they can't figure out they can't get elected to dog catcher without their Conservative Base. Sorry, My Give A Damn Is Busted. Independent Leans Libertarian.
keyboard jockey| 1.8.10 @ 4:41PM
Looks like the GOP is going to have to actually WORK for their votes this election cycle. Self Indulgent much, taking so many people's votes for granted? SEE Posturing as the lesser of two evils, and failing miserably. And now a whine fest ensues. I don't know many Conservatives that identify with the Republican Party, shooting itself in the foot, than wanting sympathy for the consequences. Self Indulgent much? 10% unemployment, 2 wars, out of control spending by an out of control congress, how about that panty bomber? Isn't our National Security Agencies Great/SARC. How about our culture - has your teenager brought home his fisting pamphlet from public school yet, maybe he can graduate and get a job with the TSA? I am supposed to feel sorry for the Republicans? Because they can't figure out they can't get elected to dog catcher without their Conservative Base. Sorry, My Give A Damn Is Busted. Independent Leans Libertarian.
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All American Blogger » Palin-Keene Feud Continues, Palin to Skip CPAC Again links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
joedoe| 1.8.10 @ 4:47PM
Dozens and dozens and dozens of reporters swooped into Alaska immediately after Palin was chosen as McCain's running mate. They turned over every rock in the state looking for dirt, or anything that might even hint of dirt. They got the bogus book ban story and a video of her in a Pentecostal church along with a visiting evangelist.
Do any of you honestly think all those reporters, that were hungry to destroy the woman, would have missed all the BS some are spewing on this blog? lol
Josh Painter| 1.8.10 @ 5:11PM
How did that Keene endorsement of Arlen Specter work out? Oh, right, he took the NRSC's money and ran to the Democrat side.
Keene sure can pick 'em. Face it, he took the "C" out of CPAC.
- JP
- JP
John Bibb| 1.8.10 @ 5:14PM
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The Sarah'Cuda is a lot smarter than the guy who wrote this article. She saw what happened to her in the 10 week campaign--and she is a quick learner.
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She is taking cheap, effective, deadly Facebook "sniper shots" from the woods--and drawing real liberal blood every time. And like a good sniper--she never shoots unless she knows she will hit the target. Stepping on land mines is unhelpful!
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SARAH PALIN for POTUS, JOHN BOLTON for VP in 2012. The America First ticket.
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Rocketman
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Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:37PM
I disagree that Mrs. Palin is the author of the posts on Facebook. She may agree with the premise but is not doing the writing. You cannot be as poorly spoken as she has been when captured on camera, and yet literate in writing. If you cannot articulate your positions face to face, it seems that it would be even more difficult to put them down on 'paper'. And posting policy statements on Facebook and Twitter, expecting the American public to take them seriously...these are websites for teenagers and young adults to catalogue their bar-hopping, beer-goggled conquests and give each other imaginary gifts. William Buckley is rolling over in his grave. Mrs. Palin, go on a serious LIVE Meet the Press type forum and talk directly to the American people about what you stand for. Please don't limit yourself to invitation-only events open only to those who can afford to hear you speak!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.8.10 @ 5:48PM
Buzz off Laura; we're sick of nasty liars like you.
Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
Not true Laura.
When I don't have my coffee, I forget my own name. I tend to be the same way. Normally, since reaching my 40's, I'm not as articulate verbally. But when writing, you get a chance to re-read comments, etc. Sarah is not as smooth a talker as say Huckabee, but she writes her own stuff.
Anybody who has seriously studied this woman, knows she writes her own stuff on Facebook, and that the style of writing in her autobiography matches her past writings.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:53PM
Hi, Sapwolf. How are things going over at C4P? How did the Barracuda Brigade protest go yesterday? Anyone get arrested for trying to suborn a state judicial official?
We have listened, too, to Sarah Palin's speeches -- and yes, she does write a lot of her own stuff, like a few of the speeches she's given. But NONE of the Facebook material.
She writes her Tweets. I think she even writes Bristol's and Willow's Tweets (like the one a week or so ago). And I think Sarah Palin has been writing Bristol's new Myspace for her, too ("working my butt off"? Sounds just like her mother a year ago)
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:09AM
Scary stalker. Palin should call the cops on you. You know too much about her personal life.
I feel like I should take a shower after I read your nasty drivel.
Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
Not true Laura.
When I don't have my coffee, I forget my own name. I tend to be the same way. Normally, since reaching my 40's, I'm not as articulate verbally. But when writing, you get a chance to re-read comments, etc. Sarah is not as smooth a talker as say Huckabee, but she writes her own stuff.
Anybody who has seriously studied this woman, knows she writes her own stuff on Facebook, and that the style of writing in her autobiography matches her past writings.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:45PM
Laura, You most certainly can be more eloquent, precise and on target when writing as opposed to speaking. Let me try to help you understand why. With writing you can get out your initial thoughts, then step away and mull them over, go back and edit and tweak and generally wordsmith them until they are precisely what you want to say. Your argument is ludicrous.
Additionally, you are woefully ignorant of Facebook which has expanded far beyond the college gang. People of all generations are on Facebook to keep up with friends scattered far and wide as well as family. I recommend you look at the number of Fortune 500 companies who realize the force of Facebook and have created corporate Facebook pages.
Honey, you don't get it. Sarah Palin in talking to the American people on her terms. She's reach more people on Facebook than she would on Meet the Press. She doesn't NEED Meet the Press or anyone else. She is more than capable of getting her message out without them. She is controlling her message and it's galling those who believe that they have the right to tell the American people how and what someone thinks so we will know how and what to think.
Laura, you are out of touch.
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 6:59PM
Very well said, only one problem. These people are not merely out of touch, they are certifiably bat-guano loony tunes. That is the only thing I would correct about what you have said.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:58PM
She's controlling book sales on Facebook. You got it right that Facebook is a corporate platform. Totally agree.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:54PM
I thought you were on the fence about Palin, Jack. Why so negative?
Liar troll.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:03PM
What did you read that was negative about what I wrote above? You Palin folks are crazy.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:48PM
Everything! Stupid or crazy; I haven't decided which one applies to you--probably both.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:10AM
Seriously, you're anti-corporation? You're anti-Facebook? Do you realize that Facebook is a corporation? Why shouldn't Sarah Palin be allowed to promote her book via a corporate platform?
Holmby| 1.9.10 @ 3:29AM
No, I'm anti-liar, that's why I detest trolls like you.
Get it?
AKReport| 1.8.10 @ 5:23PM
the people who call palin a quitter are just being faux or uniformed. She left because it was economically impossible to keep her job when liberals exploited a loophole in the state ethics laws to put her into bankruptcy, and it would have become impossible to run for Potus while being GOV for 2 more years in a state 4 hours behind east coast time.
the loophole in the ethics law was that she had to pay legal fees out of pocket for dissmissed (bogus ethics complaints) most states (and the potus) have the taxpayers pay for ethics issues.
the fact that she left early had nothing to do with her abilitys to be Gov. or POTUS for that matter.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:00PM
Palin supporters must face that many conservatives don't like a quitter--no matter what the reason. Nixon was going to be impeached, so he had to resign. And he committed a crime.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:57PM
We don't like RINOS, Jack; unfortunately for RINO Romney.
It was pretty criminal how Romney destroyed Massachusetts' economy.
pnkearns| 1.8.10 @ 5:24PM
Yea gads.....
So "hurt" because Sarah has jilted the CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference). CPAC who...? If you're not a political wonk (and I am a conservative), you have to google to find out what the heck it is. Yet another political action group/event out of hundreds, if not thousands.
Memo to Hillyer: Get over yourself.
Joe| 1.8.10 @ 5:30PM
Sarah is showing that principle and core believes are her motivation, not special interest. She is obviously becoming the one politician that is holding true to what her core principles demand, and isn't schmoozing with the power brokers of both the GOP and conservative organizations that have lost their core. That dirty game that specializes in special interest and back room deals, has defined the health care debate, and all of the democrat's legislative agenda. It's a game the little Alaskan alien is not willing to play, and all who care about what Washington has become should applaud her.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 5:45PM
Are you kidding? Mrs. Palin is the protege of Fred Malek, Rupert Murdoch, James Dobson, and Franklin Graham. All four have advised her, all publicly acknowledge this, and some even escort her to DC insider social events. Don't take my word for it: google it. She met with Newt Gingrich and Bill Kristol in Alaska in the summer of 2007, on a conservative cruise: google it. She has had nothing but the best insider beltway advice. Google Palin and Karl Rove. He was calling her in Alaska prior to her VP nomination. You cannot BE in American politics without making deals and having someone powerful sponsor you...or schmoozing, as you put it. Both parties are party to 'that dirty game'. You're a fool if you think Mrs. Palin is independent. Remember, 'you gotta serve somebody'.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 5:50PM
Buzz off Laura; we're sick and tired of nasty liars like you. Go back under your slimy rock.
Laura| 1.8.10 @ 6:28PM
Hey, why don't you buzz off, or at least come up with something a bit more original for each retort, other than copying and pasting your previous reply? Bit of a stretch for you, I think.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:15PM
Doesn't matter what you say, troll--it's too late. You can't stop Palin with your vicious lies; you just make us support her more.
Loser.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:16PM
No one wants to stop you from supporting her. Support her all you want. Other conservatives have a right to feel differently without being called names.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 8:58PM
You called us names first, moron. You are not a Conservative!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:04PM
Find one place I have called you or anyone on this board a name. You lie.
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 9:50PM
I was referring to your buddy, the lovely cow KarenJ. Still gonna lie about calling names?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:57PM
Aw, I think I hurt your feelings.
So THAT'S why the deluge of barnyard epithets, playground insults, and hair-pulling has been going on since my first comment....
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 10:19PM
Nah, I was treating you with all of the disrespect you deserved. Now go home; the other cows are mooing for you, or perhaps it's the pigs oinking--whichever, in your case, they both apply. :)
Dick_Nixon| 1.8.10 @ 6:02PM
who do you serve, Obot?
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 6:27PM
Laura, Laura, Laura. Now, don't you be worrying your ?pretty? little head about Mrs. Palin.
She's just a nobody. An ignorant cow pattie in the superhighway to Democrat 2012 success.
Heck, she's from so far back in the sticks it takes her 2 or 3 days to learn what Wolf Blitzer and Keith Olbermann think about her, and that's when her electricity is workin'!! LOL! What a joke she is. An embarassment.
She don't even read or nothing like that. Just another backwards Wasilla-billy.
She ain't no problem.
Right?
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:48PM
Goggle has their lips planted on Obama's butt. Check-out the story at Foxnews.com about Goggle.
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:49PM
Laura, Again you prove how out of touch you are. There is no longer any such thing as "the best insider beltway advice". Inside the Beltway advice is poison these days.
America Rising
Brian72| 1.8.10 @ 7:03PM
I agree, but once again, you are too kind.
Obsessively maliciously disturbed, that is more accurate than just "out of touch".
There is a purpose behind this twisted crusade these people are engaged in, and it doesn't comport with reality.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 9:59PM
Why not just say "agree with reality" or something less...elite-sounding?
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 2:04AM
What would you know about reality, doofus?
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:08AM
Are you instigating an ontological discussion?
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 3:32AM
Big words, big troll. Too bad you don't understand them. lol
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 5:42PM
Why do you need Sarah Palin there?
You have Mitt, T-Paw, and others. Why did Huck cancel? I didn't hear anything about that. I'll tell you what, get rid of the fat lying Keene and people will pour in. If Sarah Palin doesn't what to attend she doesn't have to attend. So you people need to get over youselves. Quin get over yourself. We all know you don't like the Tea Party movement.
I am geting really pissed off that Sarah Palin is the only one that should not get paid for giving a speech. That Sarah Palin is getting paid to much.
What the hell is she supposed to do pay for her own travel, expenses, and security for every freckin speech. Get Real!
Get a life you bunch of creeps and STFU!
Holmby| 1.8.10 @ 5:52PM
Quin's a Beltway insider and irrelevant. Ignore him.
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 5:55PM
Wow. I just read through the comments here, and am amazed at the depth of thought and research that went into each and every one. You all should be very proud!
Nobama| 1.8.10 @ 6:28PM
And we should care what you think why?
Andy| 1.8.10 @ 6:46PM
A case in point. For a notable exception, see Sapwolf @6:01.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:17PM
What profundity do you have to share, Andy?
Criticism is cheap and easy.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:05PM
I think your comments prove that point, dear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:52PM
My comments prove that you're cheap and easy, Jack? Okay, if you say so.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:07AM
Your comments prove that the average Palin supporter comprehends and corresponds at about the 5th grade level.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 10:08PM
Then why have you spent so much of your time responding to my correspondence? Fool.
Pingback| 1.8.10 @ 6:00PM
The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Memo to Palin: Get Over Yourself capital unive links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Sapwolf| 1.8.10 @ 6:01PM
The problem with David Keane, the ACU, and CPAC is:
1) Keane was bought off and this is not good for the image of the ACU/CPAC.
2) Keane is now considered more of an insider rather than an activist.
3) CPAC has over the years become more of an establishment/DC event. Yes it has some conservatives like Rush and Ann Coulter and Newt before he lost his credibility with the Scozzafava affair.
4) It is located in DC which lends to the feeling it is at least partially for 'insiders' more than 'outsiders'.
5) It has become the main vehicle for the GOP establishment of the east coast to push Mitt Romney.
6) Keane has had unkind words for Sarah in the past, implying that he does not take her seriously.
7) The JBS backing of the conference probably should have been avoided due to some embarrassing moments in its history.
If Sarah, the consummate outsider and common-sense conservative accepted after encountering 1 thru 7 above, it would have done tremendous damage I think to her credibility as a conservative, but one from the grassroots, sympathetic to the Tea Party Movement, and the outsider with the reform credentials. It would definitely appeared to people that she was kow-towing to Keane, let alone the establishment of the GOP.
Sarah made the correct choice here. However, I would not write off Sarah from a future visit in 2011 or 2012 at CPAC if the ACU can address the issues in 1 thru 7 above, including a probable resignation by David Keane. By getting back their creds. as a conference of conservative activists without the insider tainting or image, it can really bounce back as a stellar conference of principles rather than simply interested in money or influence or just pushing the latest establishment favorite.
By the way, since when in the world is it wrong to be a shrewd but principled politician?
This is gonna be a winner for 2010 for Sarah, the GOP, the Tea Party Movement, the SRLC, CPAC (due to stars like Rubio, etc. and the possibility of some reforms and image makeovers), and others who realize how deep a latrine DC has become.
NOTE: CPAC needs to get the hell out of DC and rotate the conference all over the country so that it helps with its image as a conservative activist conference open to more than just those who live on the east coast, eat brie and golf.
the405| 1.10.10 @ 11:52PM
Sapwolf,
The problem conservatives have with Palin's recent actions regarding CPAC and NTPC are...
1. Plain attending a first year conference with no track record for 100K fee is pay-for play of the worst kind. (She only accpeted for the fee nothing more)
2. You run around saying everyone who goes to CPAC put's "pocketbook over policy" while taking a 100K fee from a event that has done nothing to promote conservatism.
3. How can we trust NTPC head Judson Phillips when we know so little about him? Who made him leader of the Tea party movement?
4. NTPC is located in Nashville run by people who have no track record that we know little about. CPAC has put people into the house, white house and Senate. NTPC can only get speakers by paying their fees.
5. Mitt works CPAC very well. If Palin cant defeat Mitt at CPAC what makes you think she can defeat him in a 2012 Primary?
6. While Keene's comments about Palin "whihing" were out of line. It does not excuse Palin's smear of over 9000 people who attend CPAC saying they are sell outs. Two wrongs dont make a right.
7. NTPC has invited birther advocate Joseph Farah of World Net Daily as thier big Friday night speaker. Palin already had a scandal in regards to the birither movement and this is going to tie her further to that movement.
Frankly Palin made a stupid move in by dissing CPAC and the people who support it. If she tohught it would weaken CPAC and bring down Keene then she is going to be in for a rude awakening.
If NTPC has any problems (and with them barring press form thier event it looks like NTPC has something to hide) or if CPAC grows in size then Palin is going to take a big hit.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.13.10 @ 10:55PM
Palin will kick RINO Mitt's butt. Wait and see.
Romney's nothing.
Only a RINO wouldn't know that. You're no Conservative. Nice try, though.
nohype| 1.8.10 @ 6:02PM
Sarah Palin wears a visor and sets off controversy. She decides to attend one conference rather than another and sets off controversy. She is a private citizen and can do what she wants. If Romney had decided to skip one conference and attend another, would anyone care? Why the different standard for Palin?
By the way, the headline to this post was unnecessary and a low blow. But I guess it did what it was intended to do, which is bring in readers.
Truth| 1.8.10 @ 6:44PM
You are right. It has become an event for Romney. Why would any speaker appear their?
It is an event for Romney.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:18PM
Most of these trolls are Romneybots. Vicious.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 7:20PM
Did Romney ever quit his elected job?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:05PM
I knew you trolls were Romneybots. Scuzzballs.
Did Romney destroy the Massachusetts' economy with his RomneyCare? Why, yes he did.
Romney is the Obama of the Republican party and he will NEVER be president. Bet on it.
No RINOS!!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:09PM
Actually, I haven't decided who I am for, but if you are Team Palin, you have not made me feel welcome. I feel sorry for her. Her supporters really do her a disservice with the constant name-calling if anyone asks a simple question, and the lack of data about her record.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:17PM
Don't feel sorry for the Governor--she's got plenty of passionate supporters who love and fight for her.
I feel sorry for losers like you who troll web-sites to cause trouble.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:27PM
Your comments have more invective than mine, dear. You might be trolling for Romney, trying to turn people off of Palin!
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:00PM
Nice try, Bozo. We see right through your Romneybot baloney.
Tennessean| 1.8.10 @ 11:17PM
Jack, surely you can afford her book. Unless, of course, you are just a worthless troll.
King Bonzo the Fourth| 1.8.10 @ 6:05PM
Dear Mr. Quin:
How dare you, sir, criticize Ms. Palin for exercising her God given right to refuse an invitation. You do believe in freedom of choice don't you?
Moreover, your hyperventilated reprisal calls to mind a old expression: there is no fury like a woman scorned.
I will revise this expression by applying it to you : there is no fury like a moron scorned. Wear it well, you are most deserving.
King Bonzo the Fourth| 1.8.10 @ 6:08PM
(continued)
It would further appear evident that Quin and his organizaation, CPAC, needs Ms. Palin far more than she needs you.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:21PM
I agree. Makes Quin look bad. Sarah doesn't need him or CPAC.
Pingback| 1.8.10 @ 6:09PM
Conservatives Turn on Palin, Warning her to “Get Over Herself” | Politicususa.com links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
Blogforceone| 1.8.10 @ 6:11PM
An appearance by Sarah Palin would be immediately covered as front page news by the government- run media, with split images of her with 1950's cutouts of John Birch Society rallies extolling the virtues of segregation and Bigotry. Not that the JBS stands for such p0licies now as the Org. has been largely reformed as of late. She has the wisdom to avoid months of bad leftist press that would result from her association with an appearance. Why should she be a lightning rod for the left at this early date? She will run and win the Republican nomination in 2012 and likely be sworn in on Jan. 20th, 2013 as the POTUS.
ernie1241| 1.31.10 @ 1:19PM
Blogforceone: You are mistaken in your contention that the JBS has "reformed". In its 51 years of existence it has never retracted ONE WORD of any derogatory statement it has made about any person or organization in its history.
Not even when it lost the historic precedent-setting libel lawsuit which cost them $400,000!
What HAS changed, is that the JBS has become much more PR-savvy. Its publications and website are very attractive and are designed to lure unsuspecting people into the Birch orbit in much the same manner that Communist front groups seduced liberals during the 1930's and 1940's.
Tami| 1.8.10 @ 6:20PM
You dimwit liberal groups just don't get it do you? Try reading her book and you will get a clear, concise reason why she quit as Gov.
Palin for President 2012!| 1.8.10 @ 6:26PM
A lot of these posters are sneaky Romneybots.
NO RINO ROMNEY!!
Karen| 1.8.10 @ 6:51PM
Romney doesn't stand a chance. Don't waste your breath. RomenyCare and Mormonism. Enuf said.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 7:22PM
I dislike his politics not his religion.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:06PM
How about making some points about policy?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:56PM
RomneyCare. Nothing more to be said. Romney is the Republican Obama.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:05AM
A policy wonk you're not. But then again, you support Sarah Palin, someone who can't tell Sean Hannity the difference between Iraq and Iran, and who Bill O'Reilly schools about the Middle East. At least Mitt Romney served his term and isn't featured on tabloids.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 4:03AM
RomneyCare = ObamaCare; devastating to RINO Romney.
We Conservatives are NOT real fond of the Marxist, Obama or his policies, if you've noticed.
Sorry.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:05PM
Yeah. Every page has something on it that can be fact-checked and found to be wrong, inaccurate, misleading, or an outright lie. This fact-checking has been done to my knowledge by three separate entities.
What's amazing is that every Palin supporter reads the same thing and doesn't realize this. No background knowledge about Palin's past, or curiosity, or whatever...
The funniest thing is, Governor Sanford has 'WAY worse problems than Sarah Palin ever did, and he's still hanging in there in South Carolina.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 11:22PM
KarenJ said: "Every page has something on it that can be fact-checked and found to be wrong, inaccurate, misleading, or an outright lie. This fact-checking has been done to my knowledge by three separate entities. "
Wow. But she's ignorant. And a quitter!! She doesn't have a chance!! She's toast. Old news.
Right?
BTW, KarenJ, are you in either of these pictures?
http://tinyurl.com/5pjuw
http://tinyurl.com/5futjy
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 2:01AM
Wow, those pics were harsh, so sad--probably true, too.
I thought you'd linked some photos of large farm animals grazing on the meadow.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 11:47AM
KarenJ says: "What's amazing is that every Palin supporter reads the same thing and doesn't realize this. No background knowledge about Palin's past"
I know where she was born, the schools she attended, and who paid for them. I know she has governmental executive experience. I know she has been involved in an actual small business. I'm pretty sure that none of her acquaintances blew up government buildings to commit violent revolution against America. I've never heard that her pastor was a despicable, foul racist. Her father was a school teacher, not a card-carrying communist activist. Those are a few of the things I know about her.
I think you're the one lacking curiosity, not us.
PS: Are you _sure_ you're not in these pictures?
http://tinyurl.com/5pjuw
http://tinyurl.com/5futjy
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 10:11PM
Nice post--and true.
Richard | 1.8.10 @ 6:25PM
The effete intellectual snobs that claim leadership of the conservative movement have presided over its balkanization.Their quest for power and influence has splintered the movement and resulted in the nomination of the RINO king in 2008.Palin doesn't need these elitists and is letting them know it !
Don| 1.8.10 @ 7:23PM
The real problem with you moronic conservatives and you moronic insipid reasoning is....you gained so many liberals after 9/11 and the Dems just kept sending you more and more through the Bush years, that you just don't know what to do. Drop the whole anti government schitch. Go we love America and intend to defend her 'and' we can find government solutions to major problems for our citizens. Free market control of health care. Mac Donald's, Walmart, Google, all great free market american enterprises. But let's leave national defense, community crime fighting and health care to people not looking to profit.
billgibbs43| 1.8.10 @ 7:37PM
Don---Why don't we all work for non profit---and by the way ,according to ALL polls,liberals are still the only shrinking group!!!!
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:02PM
Link?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:08PM
Like you ever provided one, hypocrite.
Besides, everyone knows that Gallup shows Conservatism is trumping Liberalism now.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 8:14PM
Janice, why so angry?
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:02PM
Not angry, Jacko--just amused at you Romneybots and your silly nonsense.
Jack| 1.8.10 @ 9:07PM
I don't feel welcomed by you Palin supporters. Not at all.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:12PM
And we're not interest in liars. So leave.
Jack| 1.9.10 @ 2:02AM
Point to where I have lied. Thanks, dear.
Colorado| 1.8.10 @ 8:03PM
Grandma Gifter is only in it for herself and the money. She lies continually and spews hate every time she opens her mouth.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 8:10PM
Like the lies and hate you spew, troll?
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:07PM
You're starting to sound like a broken record, Janice.
Or a cuckoo clock.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 10:21PM
Something you'd know a lot about, Ms. Stalker.
Scary.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 8:42PM
Sarah has been given all the gifts she needs to lead by God. She may not be a perfect person, she may say and do strange things sometimes, and she may even be more interested in money than governing, but God knows what America needs right now and he gave us Sarah, therefor it's obvious why all good Americans will pick Sarah.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:05PM
So many loser Romneybots, so many loser RINOS like Romney;Romney will NEVER be president. Bet on it, trolls.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 9:16PM
There is no reason to doubt that Romney is a good family man, but he doesn't fully embody real American values the way Sarah does. The choice is clear.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 9:58PM
It's political not personal. Both of them are good people, Romney's just too liberal.
We are sick of RINOS--Mitt will NEVER be president. Wait and see.
KarenJ| 1.8.10 @ 10:09PM
Yeah, that's what we need. A theocratic bungling grifter who speaks in tongues.
MUCH better than a constitutional scholar.
Janice| 1.8.10 @ 10:25PM
He's a flip-flopping, RINO liberal, Karen--and that's why Myth Romney will NEVER be president. COUNT ON IT!
We know you Romneybots are dirty--you've sealed his fate.
Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 10:30PM
I think you're being disrespectful to what God want for his nation. John McCain was called upon to put his whole political career in jeopardy by introducing a seemingly incredulous prospect unto the nation. He did, now we all have Sarah to look to as she takes the reigns of the gift bestowed unto her to make all of America how she's fit, which is of course God's vision. It's sad and ironic that an honorable man like John McCain now has no credibility for this great act of courage, but the Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm sure McCain understands as I'm sure Sarah need not be concerned for she has greater work to be done.
Tennessean1942| 1.8.10 @ 11:27PM
"Tanc| 1.8.10 @ 10:30PM"
Troll Alert
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 12:06AM
Yes, maybe so, but that "Troll" could have been the 44th president of the United States if not for paving the way for Sarah.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:10AM
Tenn: We've got a live one here!
Rubber Room alert.
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 1:42AM
Will that room require a surcharge above and beyond the initial $395? If so, I pray the bingo balls come in my favor.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:57AM
I wouldn't know about the price of the room but I'm sure you'll find out---soon.
Tanc| 1.9.10 @ 2:03AM
Are you saying you want to bunk up with me?
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 3:58AM
No, but I'm sure Jack does.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:19AM
Shame on you Quin (again!), you come to all these types of conclusions based on assumptions, and as you note, lack of evidence.
You would fit in really well with the climate science crowd.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:22AM
It seems KarenJ had one abortion too many. Unfortunately, that is what happens to many liberal tarts, they need to satisfy that loss, with lies, hate and bitterness.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:21AM
Great comment, Harden. Sadly, I believe you're right.
There's got to be a reason for so much hatred and bitterness. Too bad the 'Liberal Tart' doesn't know God. He could help.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:26AM
Personally I'm glad Palin is shaking people like Keene and Hillyer up. So refreshing, after Obama turning out to be soooo typical and common, a garden variety clueless democrat.
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 12:32AM
Let's look at the last 34 years of presidential elections in terms of exciting candidates.
76 - Exciting beats boring.
80 - Exciting beats boring - Carter went from exciting to boring during his term
84 - Exciting beats boring
88 - Boring beats boring
92 - Exciting beats boring
96 - Exciting beats boring
00 - Boring beats boring
04 - Boring beats boring
08 - Exciting beats boring
Notice a trend? Exciting beats boring every time. No one in the Republican party can beat Obama except the only potential candidate who excites people. And that is clearly Palin. She is the country's only hope.
12 - Exciting vs. Exciting
Bring it on!
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 12:42AM
Good post, but ...
12 - Exciting vs. Exciting
That was 2008 with Palin in McCain's spot :).
Now it is:
12 Very Exciting (Palin) beats Boring and Wee-Wee'd (Obama or Clinton)
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 1:04AM
I would love to see Hillary challenge Obama for the '12 nomination. Either way whoever comes out the winner will be so bloodied that he or she will not stand a chance against the Repub.
I have been licking my chops for a Palin Obama prize fight since it became clear that Obama would defeat McCain. But the notion of a Sarah Hillary mud wrestle also savors the chops of this political theater junkie.
Lynnrockets| 1.9.10 @ 2:26PM
I think not. In the 2008 primaries Obama and Clinton had a battle royale and the winner still had no problem defeating the Republican.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 2:48PM
True, but this time there will be a conservative at the top of the ticket.
Lynnrockets| 1.9.10 @ 3:29PM
Who might that be?
KarenJ| 1.9.10 @ 10:16PM
No one you'd know, Sprockets.
You can't see anything anyway with your head tightly planted so far up your rear end.
Great$$$| 1.9.10 @ 12:45AM
I just wanted to say my heartfelt 'thanks!' to all you 'conservatives' out there.
I usually frequent 'liberal' blogs, but every once-in-a-while, I venture out to see what goes on on the 'other' side.
I must say I am amazed at the mean and vile language, at the personal attacks, name calling, and at the total disregard of civility and facts.
I am glad I got my 'righty-fix' out of the way this early in the year!
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 1:47AM
Well, how outrageous we are!! How could we? Shame on us for hurting your poor, delicate liberal feelings. Awww, poor widdle trolls; cry, moan, b!tch and complain--that's your whiny liberal mantra!
Great $$, why don't you mosey on back to your fellow 'tolerant', foul mouthed liberal morons over at Huff Po; you never use rough language or speak ill of Conservatives, right? Of course not!!
Just remember, you trolls called us foul names first. You loathsome slimeballs just aren't used to getting it thrown back in your face. Too bad, it's a new day!! lol
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:23AM
Great$$ : "I am glad I got my 'righty-fix' out of the way this early in the year! "
And we are glad as well. So now, just go back to sleep.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:22AM
Great$$$: Before you go ...
May you and that cow KarenJ be happy in your Palin derangement. I'm sure many people here would agree your fear is so obvious and palpable, your anguish so extreme, we can imagine the bodily liquids frothing and leaking whilst you whine.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 1:52AM
Harden, I don't know who you are--but I love you! Thanks for your great posts--you made me laugh.
That's 'Madcow' Karen. LOL!
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 11:53AM
"May you and that cow KarenJ be happy ..we can imagine the bodily liquids frothing and leaking "
EWWWWWWWW!!!
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:26AM
Glen:
I agree Glen, either would make an interesting election against Palin. It'd keep everyone enthralled.
But Clinton would have a better chance. Obama is starting to look like a Mr Dud, firing blanks, don't you think?
Glen| 1.9.10 @ 2:07AM
I've been saying to friends for a year that the Obama future depends on the 2010 elections. There is the Carter model and the Clinton model. Carter retained congress in 78 and lost his re-election bid. Clinton lost congress and was re-elected.
The difference is that a president who is opposed by congress can't get his agenda done. Whenever there is gridlock in DC the country thrives. The economy prospers when nothing happens in Washington. When Washington is active the economy freezes, waiting for the fallout of new legislation. That is what we are living through right now.
When the government is inactive, no matter what the laws are (to a degree), the American economy will find a way to prosper. Just give us the rules and we will play the game.
When the rules are in doubt, as they are now big time, the economy can't move. The Obama administration and Congress are killing the current economy, simply by threatening all of the rules. Nobody knows what to do, how to act, what decisions should be made.
The solution to all of the economic problems is to simply adjourn Congress indefinately. The rest of us will figure it all out.
The free market is uncannily brilliant. Without explanation.
Congress is predictably stupid. With 2000 pages of explanation.
Harden| 1.9.10 @ 1:36AM
From Ziegler's article:
"The main reason that Keene has gotten away with his shenanigans (at least until now) is that members of the conservative media are essentially bought off. Sadly and pathetically, it seems almost no one (expect maybe me) has been willing to give up a position on a panel or an invite to a party in order to expose the inherently corrupt nature of CPAC."
Hillyer?
producer| 1.9.10 @ 5:33AM
she is a blathering idiot and she proves it every single time she opens her mouth. in both content and manner. please god, please, let her be the 2012 repub nominee. that would be the absolute best gift democrats could ever hope for. all of you, keep it up and keep her out front - she is the fabulous gift that keeps on giving.
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 6:31AM
Yep, Sarah is a laughing stock, has no chance at all, and will take the Rethugs with her when she falls.
Here's an idea. Why don't you get a group of Democrat donors together and kick in a little cash to her campaign so the Rethugs will fail!!
Do it for the children.
Janice| 1.9.10 @ 10:19PM
Hey, producer, it's BLITHERING not blathering, you blithering idiot.
Our schools stink--of course they're dominated by liberals. God help us.
Pingback| 1.9.10 @ 8:16AM
2010: The Year of Intra-Party Warfare | The Moderate Voice links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
that's what she said| 1.9.10 @ 8:54AM
Palin is a whack job.
Brian72| 1.9.10 @ 12:48PM
Then don't worry about what she is up to, since you have no reason to. Right?
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 9:16AM
For the late arrivals: Here is the link to the video of John Ziegler's ... action-packed interview of David Keene at Western CPAC.
Watch the video and make up your own mind as to the credibility of the original article, and its author. Ask yourself if Sarah Palin (or any other serious candidate) is well-served by appearing at CPAC.
The link will play all 3 short videos in succession:
http://tinyurl.com/yzz43ga
pallet racking| 1.9.10 @ 10:28AM
http://www.t-racking.com
http://www.cold-store-equipment.com
Oldefarte| 1.9.10 @ 2:07PM
I do not care who/what she dishes, ignores, humiliates, gives the finger to,etc. I only hope and pray that, if she runs and is elected in 2012, that whe will pick up the PRESIDENTIAL VETO PEN and begin to use it to eliminate the millions of taxpayer dollars that are flushed down the federal coffers for the thousands of worthless, useless and asinine programs that are currently on their ledger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lynnrockets| 1.9.10 @ 2:20PM
Thank goodness somebody here has finally seen the light regarding Sarah Palin's commitment to her own self-interest to the detriment of the Republican party and conservatives. She will never miss an event where she can collect a dollar. The Bowling Convention? Give me a break.
IT’S ALL ABOUT SHE
(sung to the Harry Connick Jr. version of the song “It Had to Be You”)
It’s all about she
Who cares about you?
Her parents are clowns and poor Trig has downs
Oh, what will they do?
Palin and her crew
Say things so untrue
Health reform is bad, just ask her dad
They haven’t a clue
Is Sarah just mean?
Brain small like a bean?
She’s always so cross
But nobody’s boss
What’s with that hairdo?
Won’t have health reform if there’s a bill
You can shove your damn living will
It’s all about she, who cares about you?
She hasn’t a clue
(instrumental break)
Obama it seems
Might fulfill our dreams
Drive down health care costs
Republican loss
What will Palin do?
Keep her health plan if she likes it still
Who the hell needs a living will?
I certainly do, how about you?
I bet you do too
Tennessean1942| 1.9.10 @ 2:55PM
Lynnrockets said: "Her parents are clowns and poor Trig has downs"
You're an evil and desperate person.
Karma's going to be a bit-ch.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.9.10 @ 10:22PM
Karma's not the only b!tch here, Tenn; Sprockets is a vile piece of scum from way back.
Sarah Palin for President!
THE HARD TRUTH ABOUT LIBS| 1.9.10 @ 10:54PM
Lynn hates Sarah because Sarah's so beautiful. Sarah's a REAL woman.
Liberal women like Lynn , KarenJ, Laura, etc. have had multiple abortions and are embittered and lonely because of their "choices." They hate Sarah because they can't be Sarah.
Piteous, wrinkled hags; no one loves you and no one cares about you. You are invisible.
Lynnrockets| 1.9.10 @ 3:50PM
Tennessean1942 called KarenJ " a liar" twice and then described how he believes she masturbates.
You best be careful of that karma yourself.
SAME OLD LAME WHINE
(sung to the Dan Fogelberg song “Same Auld Lang Syne”)
Met Sarah Palin at a Walmart store
She was shoplifting like a thief
There was no sign of kids or the “First Dude”
‘Cuz Sarah brings home the beef
I recoiled from her aging face at first
But then her eyes flew open wide
She knew I saw the moose meat in her purse
And then she just fibbed and lied
I said I was not a security man
And then Sarah Palin was glad
She lacked any sense of embarrassment
At the thought that she was bagged
I asked if we could have a drink or two
Cuz she was such a rising star
We met “Joe Sixpack” at the liquor store
And we three went to a bar
We drank a toast to ignorance
We drank a toast to Mao
She tried to explain her head’s emptiness
But she did not know how
She said she’s married to a derelict
Who can’t keep a job if he tried
She would have like to say she loved the man
But she couldn’t stand the guy
I said “death panels” were the end for her
That she could turn a Red-State Blue
And did she fear her would-be son-in-law?
She just said, “Lynn, F_ _ _ you”
She said she hated all the pro-choice whores
And that she hoped they’d go to Hell
I asked if Coulter was a “he” or “she”?
Palin said she could not tell
She toasted her omnipotence
And asked us all to bow
I said, “so long and good riddance,
I must be leaving now”
Then one last toast to ignorance
Cuz it was closing time
She lacks a sense of eloquence
But has that old lame whine
The beers were empty and our tongues were tired
Another book signing today
She put her hat on and hopped on her broom
And I watched her fly away
She graduated from a “safety school”
So she has no-one else to blame
There’s no intelligence inside her dome
That’s why she is so lame.
Nobama| 1.9.10 @ 10:26PM
Settle down, Sprockets! Old Madcow KarenJ started with the vile name calling--she just got a little back.
Good for the old fat fatty--keeps her spry. Now, if she would just take a shower. Please!!
Hellian| 1.9.10 @ 8:13PM
she did not write the darn things every one with a sense or who has heard her speak knows that someone else writes those articles .I am very good friends with a Paul supporter and he hates palin has nothing good to say about her.IMO she speaks for no one but herself and if calling me a troll floats your boat go for it .But if ya used your mind that God gave ya and fact check and googled things ya would know the truth or at least come as close to it as ya can.As for palins book yes I read it.To me it sounded like it was a book all about getting even with everyone and anyone who she did not care for.It IMO belongs in the fiction section.All the people that have come out about what a sham she was can't all be wrong no matter what you want to believe.The troll is saying good night to all you Jim Jones followers LOL
hellian| 1.9.10 @ 8:16PM
this troll forgot one thing she did not use her veto pen to stop all the pork that her people brought to Alaska.now did she Like the bridge to nowhere that she was for than claimed to be against but kept all the money even though her state was flush with so called oil money ever thought maybe that is one reason why some prices are high??????
iamnotstarjones| 1.9.10 @ 8:23PM
KarenJ,
I applaud your willingness to engage with Sarah's active and engaged base.
But you have to realize Palin's fans are set and feel any money spent to hear her pearls of wisdom is money well spent.
My thinking is the Americans who can afford to do this type of extracurricular stuff (travel to attend Teabagger rallies, buy books) must be doing very well under the current economy. Their mortgages must be paid, their kids college funds set and they have EXCELLENT health care and insurance for them to have the funds to support an unemployed grandmother from Wasilla.
So their complaints about the direction of the country are odd given how they are able to support Ms. Palin with money.
Leave them alone. This is the best time of their lives.
I hope you guys remember to thank the POTUS for all your prosperity and freedom!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.9.10 @ 10:42PM
Thank Obama for what, DOUBLE DIGIT UNEMPLOYMENT and USA BANKRUPTCY? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
DEATH PANELS (thanks, Sarah!) FOR ALL? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
FREEDOM? You mean the freedom to get blown out of the sky flying to see grandma? Sure, thanks, Obowmao!
We'll be lucky if we survive until PRESIDENT PALIN is sworn in--January, 2013.
You incompetent fools are in way over your heads. FACT: DEMOCRATS CAN'T GOVERN!
We're even beating you in Massachusetts!! Teddy's old Senate seat. It's gonna be a Democrat bloodbath in 2010!
Can't wait, save the date--11/02/10!!
National Democrat Pink Slip Day!
Fire all the Democrat skunks!
Margie| 1.9.10 @ 8:56PM
Ok. For everyone who wants to know why Sarah Palin is so hated~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmEE61iVhCA
Lynnrockets| 1.10.10 @ 12:08AM
@ Margie:
Are you kidding? Are you really relying upon a video by someone known as "Pajamas TV" to get your information. Right from the get go the video misleads its audience by only pointing out the ethics complaints against Palin which were dismissed and by failing to even mention the existence of ethics complaints that were substantiated.
You really should find a better source for your information.
NOBAMA| 1.10.10 @ 2:08AM
Sprockets, you're such a loser--irrelevant, actually.
You dumb libs have over-reached and screwed the pooch! The American people are fit to be tied and we're going to throw you morons out on your cans come November.
YES WE CAN!! LOL!! We HOPE to CHANGE congress and POTUS as soon as we can.
Incompetent, arrogant fascists; you don't know your butts from holes in the ground. Why did anyone vote for your Rogue's Gallery of freaks, misfits, liars, thieves, Marxists, Communists and pedophiles?
Soon, we'll elect some decent, honorable Conservative leaders to clean up the disgusting mess you've made.
Human garbage is what you are.
Margie| 1.10.10 @ 2:00PM
What, like Huffington Post where you must reside?
BTW smarty pants, since you pretend to be so honest and knowledgeable, can you tell us exactly what the ethics charges are that are remaining? We'll be waiting....
Margie| 1.10.10 @ 8:02PM
silence....
Lynnrockets| 1.13.10 @ 1:06PM
Ask and ye shall receive:
1. July 28, 2008: Alaska lawmakers launched an investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin's sister. Stephen Branchflower, a special counsel leading the investigation, concluded Oct. 10 that Palin violated a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain. The firing itself was deemed lawful since Monegan was an at-will employee.
2. Oct. 24, 2008: Complaint contended Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The personnel board found no wrongdoing, but in a Feb. 23 settlement Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $10,000 for costs associated with 10 trips found to be of questionable state interest among 72 travel authorizations studied. The money is due to the state on Tuesday.
3. Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin's top aides misused their official positions for Palin's personal and political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill McAllister and Kris Perry -- director of the governor's Anchorage office -- worked on state time to benefit Palin's interests during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.
4. Contends Palin is misusing the governor's office for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than $500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints, including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident, Kim Chatman. Pending.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html
Lynnrockets| 1.13.10 @ 1:06PM
Ask and ye shall receive:
1. July 28, 2008: Alaska lawmakers launched an investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin's sister. Stephen Branchflower, a special counsel leading the investigation, concluded Oct. 10 that Palin violated a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain. The firing itself was deemed lawful since Monegan was an at-will employee.
2. Oct. 24, 2008: Complaint contended Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The personnel board found no wrongdoing, but in a Feb. 23 settlement Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $10,000 for costs associated with 10 trips found to be of questionable state interest among 72 travel authorizations studied. The money is due to the state on Tuesday.
3. Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin's top aides misused their official positions for Palin's personal and political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill McAllister and Kris Perry -- director of the governor's Anchorage office -- worked on state time to benefit Palin's interests during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.
4. Contends Palin is misusing the governor's office for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than $500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints, including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident, Kim Chatman. Pending.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.13.10 @ 10:46PM
What a loser. In your haste to falsely accuse Palin of more drivel, you double posted. lol
Did you wet yourself, too? Pathetic.
lynnrockets| 1.14.10 @ 12:44AM
Sorry about double posting, but why would you say that I falsely accused her of anything? Those ethics violations are legitimate and/or still pending. Please face the facts.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.16.10 @ 6:18PM
You liberals can't help but lie. NONE of those ethics complaints was legit and everyone knows it. They've been dismissed.
Keep beating a dead horse, moron; but look around, you democrats are getting your ample azzes handed to you all over the country, including blue states.
Better watch it, you corrupt thugs are going to cease to exist. The American people are tired of the democrat cesspool tactics and corruption.
janet| 1.9.10 @ 9:32PM
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/ Interesting read about the event in Tenn,The teabagger event
LIBERALS ARE PERVERTS| 1.9.10 @ 10:30PM
Liberals are the real teabaggers--that's why they constantly bring it up.
Liberals never met a perversion they didn't like.
Hal| 1.9.10 @ 10:42PM
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....ea-Baggers
Very funny unless you are a tea bagger I guess.
Lynnrockets| 1.9.10 @ 11:59PM
This week’s edition of “Matches Made In Heaven” features Sarah Palin and the Teabaggers. The educationally challenged former ex-quitting governor of Alaska has been selected to be the keynote speaker at the First Annual National Tea Party Convention which will be held in Nashville in February.
Imagine the many misspelled and unintelligible signs, placards and t-shirts that are certain to be on display.
The event should resemble an outtake from the film, “Night Of The Living Dead“. Imagine all the drool, head scratching and confusion as the conventioneers tackle such difficult tasks as finding the bathrooms and remembering their hotel room numbers. They will rail against socialized programs as they fight to defend their socialized Medicare benefits. They will miss work and lose wages as they fight for tax cuts for their bosses. Eventually, Palin will deliver the closing speech in which she is certain to try to explain the fiction of “death panels” and why she cannot remember Joe Biden’s name. Finally Glenn Beck will take to the stage and announce that the attendance was greater than twenty million. This is the stuff of which comedians dream.
For more on Sarah Palin’s stupidity, do not forget to watch 60 Minutes tomorrow night. John McCain campaign manager, Steve Schmidt will dissect and analyze the lying Palin’s “debacle of historic and epic proportions”. Oh boy, get out your popcorn for this one. The segment will be without opposition because Palin is incapable of appearing on a show like 60 Minutes. She makes a fool of herself every time she attempts to be interviewed and therefore she avoids the true news shows.
THE BALLAD OF SARAH AND LEVI
(Sung to the Beatles song “The Ballad of John and Yoko”)
Posing in a condo in New York,
Levi about to remove his pants
He now has a knack
To annoy SarahPAC
Yet most of them will still take a glance
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be,
To play second fiddle,
To the Caribou-Barbie.
Sarah claims that she is embarrassed
Really, she just envies his fame
Katie Couric did say,
“Can you pray away gay?”
“And can you point out some newspapers by name?”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
Those interviews on TV.
Reviews were not glowing
For the brain-dead Sarah P.
Levi’s camped-out in the Manhattan Hilton,
Media folks want him to speak
The newspapers said,
“What’s going on in your head?”
He said, “I think Sarah just wants a quick peek”
Christ you know she’s so sleazy,
She won’t speak without a fee
The next show she’s doing
Will be with Sean Hannity
Keeping every penny of per-diem pay,
Lying about clothes to charity,
Daughter that’s unwed,
Is someone inbred?
Her chance to win election, pretty low – Think!
Relatives all getting arrested.
Family dignity in free-fall.
McCain’s folks still claim,
“Palin was to blame”
But Sarah says that they dropped the ball
Christ you know she’s so sleazy
She lies so effortlessly
But Levi is going,
To crucify Sarah P.
How did Mac choose Sarah to begin with?
She is just a political hack.
A dumb “hockey mom”,
That can’t think and chew gum.
Why didn’t he select “Joe Sixpack?”
Christ she makes us uneasy.
In Yiddish we say, “Oy Vey.”
We’d love to replace her
With our good friend, Tina Fey.
We’d love to replace her
With our good friend, Tina Fey.
ZerObama| 1.10.10 @ 2:12AM
Braindead libturd, it's only a matter of time before you losers are thrown out of office.
Love it when Palin is sworn in as POTUS--January, 2013. Save the date dummocrap.
Rick451| 1.10.10 @ 2:41AM
Petty? More like brilliant. You'll see.
Buster Brown| 1.10.10 @ 3:59AM
Don't worry, she's not going to the symposium now, either. It's been canceled. But don't worry all you Palin fans, your $770 refunds are on the way. Honest...No, really. Watch your mailboxes!
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Lynnrockets| 1.10.10 @ 9:14AM
Is it any wonder that the Tea-Bagger bash has been canceled? Their "Die-in" in Washington was an attendance disaster and they cannot even define what their planned January 20th "strike" or "boycott" is supposed to be. The good news is now Sarah Palin will have lots of time to prepare for her paid speaking gig at the Bowlers Convention.
RIGHT WING WORLD (DON’T KNOW MUCH)
(sung to the Sam Cooke song “Wonderful World”)
Don’t know much about geography
Don’t know much ecology
Don’t know much about that climate change
Don’t know why voters think I am strange
But I do know I love my shoes
And I really love my beehive ‘do
What a right wing world this should be
Don’t have much of an education
I know a lot about procreation
Opposition should have no voice
Pregnant women should have no choice
Yes, I do practice “politics of hate”
And I love to equivocate
What a right wing world this should be
Now I don’t claim that I can see Russia
From my living room bay
And I do not star on “Thirty Rock”, baby
That’s the talented Tina Fey
Don’t know much about interviews
Don’t know many Supreme Court views
Can’t name any books that I’ve read
Sure glad Bristol and Levi aren’t wed
But I do know my time is due
And I’ll be there in 2-0-1-2
What a right wing world this will be
And I do know you’ll love Sarah P.
We’ll be a nation of Scientology
What a right wing world this will be
Ran / Si Vis Pacem| 1.10.10 @ 12:38PM
Mr Hillyer,
There was a time, before the blogosphere, that CPAC was critical to getting a message out to the base. That time is long gone. The Internet and its blogs have done a sterling job since. Perhaps, maybe, what if... Sarah Palin (and possibly others) see it as a grand waste of time where the risks outweigh the benefits?
Look, I watched most of last year's CPAC and found it to be a colossal WOT with respect to learning anything new. Limbaugh was the best there, I thought, but he offered his standard fare.
Petty? Get over yourself? What, instead, if she's just getting over CPAC? Is it a rebuff of Conservatives, or just a business decision?
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!| 1.12.10 @ 11:37AM
GO SARAH!!
the405| 1.11.10 @ 12:20AM
NTPC is aligning itself with the birther movement by having Joesph Farah speak on Friday night.
Yet the NTPC is barring all press from covering that and Palin's speech.
Why is that?
Lynnrockets| 1.11.10 @ 8:05AM
Simple. Even the Tea-Baggers recognize that their positions are so outside of the political mainstream that they are embarrassed to have them see the light of day and/or to have them subjected to public ridicule.
On another note, it was a hoot to watch 60 Minutes last night as the Republicans continued to eat their young. It would appear that Steve Schmidt may have finally plunged the final stake into the blood-sucking thing that is Palin. She was portrayed by Schmidt as a knowledgeless, lying schizophrenic.
I’VE JUST SEEN HER FACE
(sung to the Beatles song “I’ve Just Seen A Face”)
I’ve just seen her face,
I can’t forget the time or place
I’ll make a bet, she’s trolling for a fee
Palin wants all the world to see her jet
Na na na na na na
Unemployed and without pay
She lives her life the Palin way
With winking eyes and beehive hair
She’s an Alaskan “Mama Bear” alright !
Na na na na na na
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Sitting on her throne
With her intelligence on loan
The G.O.P. thinks she is out of sight
Their other girls were never quite like this
Na na na na na na
Crawling, an insect crawling
And she’s appalling to sober men
(musical interlude)
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
I’ve just seen her face
To folks like me it’s a disgrace
And better yet, I want the world to see
There is no place for Sarah P., you bet
Na na na na na na
Crawling, an insect crawling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Oh, falling, yes Sarah’s falling
And she’s appalling to sober men
Treadway| 1.11.10 @ 11:27PM
Whistling by the gravedyard, lib morons. Even your candidate for Teddy's seat is in trouble!
The nasty old lady killer must be spinning in his grave!!
Old Harry has been caught with his racist pants down--"Obama the light skinned negro." Damn, you libtards are racists--all of you. LOL!!
Can't wait, save the date--November, 2010. We're gonna wipe the floor with you morons.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT! 2012| 1.12.10 @ 11:38AM
RUN SARAH RUN!!
Lynnrockets| 1.12.10 @ 2:44PM
It has been reported that Sarah Palin will only guest host on Fox News. If she is popular enough they may give her a show of her own. Perhaps it will be a new Fox game show such as…
“Wheel of Stupid”,
“Palin Family Feud”.
“Career In Jeopardy”,
“Neither Truth Nor Consequences” or
“Name That Magazine Or Newspaper”
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012| 1.13.10 @ 10:49PM
November 2, 2010 can't come soon enough. Throw the corrupt democrat skunks out!!
lynnrockets| 1.14.10 @ 12:47AM
Face reality, Sarah Palin will never be president.
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.15.10 @ 2:16AM
Wanna bet, moron? We're even beating you losers in the old pervert Kennedy's state!! The old lady killer must be spinning like a top!!
Sarah could easily be POTUS the way your stupid, corrupt and incompetent party is destroying the country.
You're going to see Palin become President of the United States and you're going to love it. Ha!!
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012| 1.24.10 @ 3:18AM
Hey, Sprockets, how'd you like the Massachusetts' election? MMM MMM MMM!!!
Told you, loser.
lynnrockets| 1.24.10 @ 3:19AM
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!! 2012
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IF that is what happened). If that is what happened -- and again, I do NOT know the circumstances, so there MAY be a legitimate explanation -- then unless Palin had a really good reason, she did effectively "diss" not just Keene but the conservative movement, in which case Keene would have been right to complain.
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I have an idea: before you write an entire column trashing Palin for what you "suppose" are her reasons for everything, why don't you do what an honest journalist does and TALK TO HER!!! Good grief. Get over YOURSELF.
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