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Credit to Snowe and Collins

Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are often knocked around by conservatives for their liberal voting records, but this morning, both of them voted against health care legislation. They come from a state that President Obama carried by 18 points, and if anything, the risk of voting against the bill was higher than the risk of voting for it. By holding their ground, they made it more difficult for Senate Majority Harry Reid to put together 60 votes, and helped make it necessary for him to sacrifice the public option. Politically, it denies President Obama the ability to claim any bipartisan support, and in the coming elections, it means that Republicans can run against every Democrat in the Senate as the 60th and deciding vote.

As conservatives continue the ongoing debate about when it makes sense to support conservative insurgent candidates, the experience of Snowe and Collins is worth keeping in mind. Both of them have liberal voting records on a number of issues and wouldn't be the ideal choice of any conservatives. But at the same time, any true conservative would get demolished in a general election in a state like Maine. If Reid had two additional liberal Democrats in the Senate instead of Snowe and Collins, this could have ended up even worse.

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Martin| 12.21.09 @ 8:15AM

I've always felt that Snowe and Collins were very different from sleazy opportunists like Specter or Charlie Crist. It's the opportunist RINOs we have to read out of the party; the genuine principled moderates like Snowe and Collins serve a useful purpose in attracting swing voters and should be protected, not demonised

Hector| 12.21.09 @ 11:31AM

Given their records, I truly believe the only reason either voted against the bill was that they knew it already had 60 votes, and this was an opportunity to lull the GOP into thinking them loyal. Give them time; they'll show their true colors yet again.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.21.09 @ 9:03AM

Don't give'em too much credit. Even a broken clock gets it right sometimes.

LouBear| 12.21.09 @ 9:08AM

I agree with Martin 100%, but he put it much better than I could, and I consider myself a Palin conservative.

John| 12.21.09 @ 9:24AM

Reagan put into place policies that would put people back to work and would create wealth and opportunities. Liberals increasing taxes and spending obscenely will not lead to a recovery that creates wealth and opportunities......and there is no health care crisis (the crisis is the end result to FDR's entitlement scheme where more are taking out than putting in......)

JP| 12.21.09 @ 9:39AM

Snowe and Collins come from a state dominated by liberals. I'd never expect the likes of a B-1 Bob Dornan or a Jessie Helms being elected there. It is good to see these 2 Senators see what is going on and not caving to the MSM.

Mike from Florida| 12.21.09 @ 10:10AM

The Maine senators didn't need to sellout the country and the American people, because there were plenty of Democrats willing to do it for them.

sagman888| 12.21.09 @ 10:11AM

I always have the sense that Snowe and Collins are doing what they think is right, even if I want to run screaming from the room when I hear how they vote. Can you imagine either one being offered--let alone taking--a Nelson/Landrieu bribe?

Quin| 12.21.09 @ 10:33AM

Phil, is absolutely right, as are sagman888 and martin, which is exactly why I wrote this a few weeks back: http://spectator.org/archives/.....pled-moder .
Now, the REAL target of conservative ire should be the Senate leadership, which again has found a way to nobly (supposedly) lose a hard fought (supposedly) battle. I will write more on this if we have time, but I repeat the the Senate leadership has the tactical and strategic sense of George Custer.

Deborah D| 12.21.09 @ 11:02AM

The target of conservative ire should be the Senate leadership....couldn't agree with you more, Quin. They need to fight before not when it's a done deal!

Why didn't they fight back when the Socialist Sanders pulled his bill and Reid forced the reading of his amendment to stop? This is supposed to need a unanimous consent of the Senate to stop a reading of a bill or amendment. Don't these long-serving Senators know the rules? I think they do, so why did they allow the Dems to break them?

Something's wrong here. Do they just want to get home for Christmas? Or is there something else working here?

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sagman888| 12.21.09 @ 11:04AM

Quin--I missed that column from a few weeks back. Thanks for the link. Agree completely.

You know who's really disappointed me? Webb. Smart guy, independent thinker, policy wonk, no ideologue. I can't believe he doesn't see this bill for the train wreck it is. Maybe he'll vote "nay" when they only need 51 votes to get it to Obama's desk, and Webb can say to Virginians, well, I voted no.

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james wilson| 12.21.09 @ 12:23PM

That is exactly the kind of thinking that has us where we are, and Maine where it is. Stuck on stupid.

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Seek| 12.21.09 @ 2:52PM

I agree with the above poster about Sen. Webb, from my home state of Virginia. He's been a real disappointment. Trumpeted as a prime example of a "new breed" of Democrat -- former Navy Secretary, fiercely independent and pragmatic -- he's voted consistently liberal. What happened to that "Born Fighting" spirit of the Scots-Irish of whom he is a part and eloquently wrote a few years ago? Get in touch with your family DNA, Jim. Stop Obamacare.

Thom| 12.21.09 @ 5:28PM

Phil/Quin,
In all due respect, Snowe voted to let this beast out of committee where 60 Democrat votes were waiting and the 787 billion slush fund that is being used to buy off the Judas in the Democrat Party. She and her twin up in Maine own this lock, stock and barrel no differently than old Benny out in the Corn Belt. Please stop dressing up political theater or painting a smiley face on the Titanic just before it slides under the waves. The Snow birds are reliable Democrat votes just as Lieberman is.
They are what they are and none of them will ever suffer under this Bill.

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scott| 12.22.09 @ 10:19AM

OK, I'll credit the good folks from Maine for breathing apocalyptic fire at the wonderful, open-minded, spineless senators from Maine. Way to put the fear of God into them people.

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