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Oldefarte| 12.10.09 @ 3:08PM

It appears to me that the Democrats are hell bent on passing anything in the name of universal healthcare. If they are successful in doing so [and considering Philip's editorial's poll numbers here] and if voters are successful in voting the Democrats,etc responsible out of office next year+; is anyone knowledgable of WHAT could possibly be done in the future to REVERSE/ELIMINATE their destructive healthcare legislation passed now?????

Brian| 12.10.09 @ 5:13PM

Even if a Republican (or preferrably Libertarian but I'm probably dreaming) majority were to pass legislation in 2011 to repeal the healthcare boondoggle before it takes effect, B. Hussein Obama would veto it. Actually reversing it would require a 2/3 supermajority to override the veto. If the democraps manage to pass this, the country will be completely skeeeerewed.

Rexton Kuchinsky| 12.11.09 @ 9:40PM

Brian is right. We are so skeeeerewed once this passes. The GOP would need a super majority to overide the expected veto from Obama and no way is that happening. Hopefully some groups will challenge it and take it all the way to the Supreme Court but you never know how they will rule. This is all about power. Once this goes into effect the government will have power over all of us and for us seniors they will have basically the power of life and death over many of us. Glad my parents are no longer here to see what has happened to this once glorious country that they fought for during WWII.

jerry hunter| 12.11.09 @ 6:10PM

the majorty of people voted to give dem. the power to destroy the US and thats what there are doing. so stop bad mouthing the people that knows what is best for you

Jason| 12.14.09 @ 11:14PM

I guess millionaire lobby group had nothing to do with some arm bending huh?

Sheri| 12.11.09 @ 6:23PM

We must continue to oppose the bill. The Dems still don't have the votes to pass it. And if they can't get enough votes before the end of this month, the Dems will have to remove the bill from the Senate floor. There are 9 appropriations bills to fund the government that must be passed by Dec. 31th. And they have to raise the debt ceiling too, since Obama and his minions are spending so much money.

Greg Zotta| 12.12.09 @ 5:36AM

Bribery or Politics?
If the healthcare legislation is so GREAT, why are the Democrats voting on it in the dark of night on a Saturday night? Why are they not presenting the facts of the bill to the American people? Is it because the numbers do not add up? The Democrats say that there is a need to pass this legislation today because thousands of people are dying because of the lack of healthcare. Yet the benefits do not go into effect until 4 years from now, so by their calculations are they going to let thousands more of Americans die? Why do they want to put people in jail for not wanting to buy health insurance? Would that even be constitutional? Why do they have to bribe certain Senators in order to get them to vote for it? Is Eric Holder going to investigate this bribe? Will the news media begin doing their job and expose this fraud? Why is it that politicians say one thing but do another, Joe Liebermann? Will the American people stand up and be heard to stop this monstrosity? These are just some questions that should be answered before proceeding with this legislation.
Greg Zotta

cooperscopy| 12.14.09 @ 1:20PM

That's good news for Obamacare opponents.. I think it's dead, especially with Obama himself sinking in the polls. Some democrats are going to resist the arm twisting by Harry Reid. He is in more trouble back home than Obama is nationally... read: No recession in Washington D.C...at...

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Clint| 12.14.09 @ 2:21PM

The sad part is that they were actually close to a solution that would work; using the borrowing power of the federal government to provide a new financing schema for the benefit of the health insurance industry that would change the way we use and pay for health care in a way that would no longer damage our economy, but make it stronger. We were so close in resolving Social Security, but Republicans deserted the modern conservative movement and the time and money spent on defeating this bogus health care plan is just part of the bill we have to pay for their treachery. It is time we rode the RINOs out of the Republican Party or made common cause with the Tea Party movement and nobody wants to admit this fundamental fact.

Amazingoly| 12.14.09 @ 3:39PM

The Democrats are in a panic, and have been asked (ordered) to go to the White House Tuesday for Obama's pleadings. "Please come up with something, have you seen my ratings"?
Leaving the Republicans completely out of everything, closed doors, secret meetings have turned most Americans away from their big plans.

Howard Last| 12.14.09 @ 3:41PM

Don't expect the RINO's to save us. After all it was Bush with the help of Tom Delay who pushed through Medicare part D. And Romney who pushed thrugh in Taxachussetts have health insurance or pay a fine to the state. Aren't these like Obamacare lite?

RahmboDeadfish| 12.15.09 @ 10:15PM

If congress passes this legislation, which COMPLETELY goes against the desires of the significant majority, both chambers of congress will flip in 2010'.
People who never considered themselves "political" have now done what the left and MSM fears more than anything....the american public is seeking the facts and informing themselves.

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Henry Massingale| 1.27.10 @ 6:53PM

I have weighed this issue Health Care Bill vs. Constitution, and if a Political Party Gains control over a people because if the Health Care Tax Dollars, then it is laws with out moral value.
You see when tobacco companies became under fire the laws were based on a moral value because of the issues within.
The moral building blocks from Bill to Law is not supported because these Laws are for increase taxes and force pay against the people and a increase tax forum in a wide coverage stated to be in the best interest of the Country.
exmp.,

So this is Health Care Reform at its best, please allow me to share a concept that will open your mind in a way never thought of for a United Forum Concept. At first I stood alone and I wrote my first blog and little did I know that thousands of people and companies stood by it,
I have waited to see the issues of tax increase and health care, something that may be wrote by President Obama,
You see a lot of what I write, is in fact that, I do not seek Political support because I do not belong to any party. As for President Obama and theses 60 people that hold seat of Government who wish to build 1900 page of law to Govern this system because of this Health Care dollar. I watch them stumble about without a clue of how to fix this failed system. To see into this failure, you must allow this system to be seen as a forum for dollars of taxes created as a constant as a yearly figure. This prediction of dollar for the future, is in fact what I call Artificial Intelligence built on the hope that taxes will stay a constant figure.
To state it simple if Health Care Insurance Companies Unite and hand over this issue then the Officials of Government then they will have have no choice but to turn their eye to the companies of medication and medical supplies and hospitals and Doctors who charge cost that is the cause and effect of this failure within this system.
This Health Care Forum we offer is built on a moral value, a strategic forum to place issues to work ,that offers freedom to be a part of it or not. This force pay against companies, force pay against VETS, and so on shows the lack of a moral building block within this Health Care Reform.
What we offer is that, will, Lets use the AARP Health Care Insurance Company, and lets say that they have 30 million members. To show that this company can earn $150 million dollars per month and be released from the burden of medical cost, by what we wish to show as health care tax forum and a freedom of choice for a pay in to a forum to a Insurance Company for people who do not trust this system within The United States Government. A tax forum forces the Government system to work for the people and at the same time forces Government Officials to work for the people within this forum.
To reach out to a company and sit down with them to build something never attempted in order to rebuild lives and the National Security of The United States as a moral building block without laws to Govern, but to protect this system from crime is what a moral law use to stand for.
To show a $100 trillion dollar strategic building block by companies of freewill that step forward to help rebuild America. To build the most powerful anti war / crime forum ever conceived by such as I a nobody that only seek to only go back to work as a painter and rebuild his little company dream.
As stated at first I stood alone against so many and I have found the uniting of people of different faith that seeks the same as I do. What makes FASC Concepts different, we do not ask for money and we opened a door for people to put their faith into themselves as a person and not what we say, to build on this and protect it under the concepts of law such as the Patriot Act. {A Moral Concept}
There is a day coming that Officials of Government will see that the Laws built against God and Country was the first steps of the United States Of America headed for failure because it lacks moral value. This is what our enemies see, a Country of Laws that should of never been created by few against so many people of the USA.
Is it so hard to see a concept for a Health Care Stimulus Package that builds jobs and life within a anti / crime forum ?
Henry Massingale
FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward
found on google.com. And yahoo look for page 1 american dream offical site.

Henry Massingale| 3.8.10 @ 9:45PM

3/08/2010

To force pay into another system of failures within Health Care Insurance Groups.
This economy will not balance with this concept of a tax forum against the Health Care System. The issue of how to force pay into this system of Health Care may have worked but I am still troubled over the progressive tax forum within this Bill. It covers so many items and Countries that it only forces the system to adjust itself. In some areas, increases against the people and the troubled economy, and in other areas, less effects will be felt.
But this is my big problem, Government Officials seek help and they are to proud to ask us, “the true working force of Government.” It is understandable they have failed the People and within the United States Of America all we ask is to see us as who we are and not try to bring us into this world of the intellectual. I guess our Prime Directive is that of Star Trek, so it must be understood that for millions of people we are just as happy as can be making $13.00 per hour and we have no interest in this world of politics, and how to be a Enstine. Government Officials must understand that there is a level of people within different parts of this Country, that seek to be only that they find to make them happy.
As for this economy well, it is said that the U.S.A. Arms Division has created enough arsenal to destroy every last creature in the world 2 times over,built with tax dollars. This would be funny if not for the irony of it. And now as time has passed Government Officials keep failing. Before 9/11 all the way to today.
1.As it is in a world of a system, when employees continue to fail, one or two things happen, one; you get fired, two; if you see into a person a good, then it is political correct to implement a penalty or roll back in pay. But this implement of penalty is more favored in the course of action in the Federal Employment World. So how to fix the economy and unite it with the Health Care issue. It would be in the Countries best interest to implement a 10% per cent penalty against every State, County and Government Official within this Matrix of failures. Hey what is that old saying, what is good for the Goose is good for the Gander. I am serous about this, it is past due to show that our Government Officials they have failed, their system failure reaches into this world of warnings that they brush aside as if the information is not worthy noting. From Pearl Harbor to 9/11/2001 to 3/07/2010 of our tax system and Health Care Reform. This 10% per cent penalty should go into the Health Care Forum.
2. The big problem that Government Officials have is that they have no street credit. President Obama still has some but if he does not take his family and step away from these dueling Parties, that fight over this Health Care Dollar, and stand with Us he will lose all credit from the streets to the county.
3. President Obama, I would say to you, you have one last chance to regain the hopes and dreams of the American People. To reach out in a concept that states, if there is 250 million people in trouble because of these failures, I would give all my money to them and then I would say to all that I gave money to, “I have no money left, would you all please give me $1.00 back and then I would have $250. million dollars to start all over again.”
4. Some have stated that I clam to have spiritual in site or something of the sort. I assure you this is not true, so when I state that I asked God to help, it is my way of saying hey Bobby show me how to work on theses Chevy engines. But I do thank you for the consideration. Consider me a cross of Jethro Bodine from the Beverly Hill Billies with my 10th. Grade education and Vin Diesel from the move Pitch Black.
Henry Massingale
FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward
www.fascmovement.mysite.com on google, look for page 1 american dream official site

Henry Massingale| 3.25.10 @ 8:01PM

To show the people of the United States that there is a plan to cover the sick and the poor, but to get Government Officials to see is a concept alone.
To help cover the sick and the poor is a FASC Concept that states that to build a Health Care Forum within our Government Institution is a Peoples right to do so and this is Protect Under the Constitution as a Human and Civil Right. So in plan words if the poor and the sick could only afford to pay $5.00 to $10.00 per month this would to bring a balance toward the broken tax system, to add up this number 32 million to 100 million sick and poor people x $5.00 per month. This will place back into the system $116 million $to 500 million dollars per month. The cause and effect of this will reduce the purposed Health Care Tax Forum, to bring about a reduced effect so not to a over burden system. Take my faith in this and almost all the poor and sick would be happy to pay in and help rebuild the United States failed tax system. Also To bring about a balance of trust lost between the people and Officials.
Under a Federal Health Care Group built by my friends and I. {You see the poor, as you see them}, as for them they see them self not poor, but of a different race of people and environment and have faith it that which was in the past that so many do not have a clue of what God and Country is all about.
Will be up dated today 3/25/2010

Issue 1.

FASC tax and pay in Forum, A Concept to help the Poor and Sick.

FASC Concepts of a guideline of income and a fair payment for the poor to the rich.
CLASS INCOME MONTHLY PAYMENTS
{A} formatt for people making up to $29000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $40.00 per month
{B} up to $19000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $30.00 per month
{C} up to $12000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $20.00 per month
{D} from 0.00 income to $9000.00 per year / cost up to 0.00 to $10.00 per month
MIDDLE CLASS TO THE POOR
{A} {B} {C} {D} classification based on one person If married policy can be devided or stayed. These are concept numbers to open the mind..............
Submitted by Marh Hidabrand,asked would it not be better to build on , instead of droping off of the {A}{B}{C}
{E} up to $49000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $50.00 per month
{F} up to $59000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $60.00 per month
{G} up to $69000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $70.00 per month
{H} up to $79000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $80.00 per month
{I} up to $89000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $90.00 per month
To balance a payment plan to fit within the bills, within a home..........{J} {K} {L} {M} exc......................
Need to balance to stay around $200.00 for above income and below $300.00 for the rich ?
The same incentives apply if husband and wife wish to pay separate.
The same incentives apply for the poor, even if all they can pay is $3.95 per month. No one is cut out of the rebuilding of the inter structure of Health care and the USA.
The money is a investment into our further and is to be tax free, just the money paid in.

You may ask: what about Medicare ? {is it not possible to merge Medicare into this concept ?}
With in this movement the {A} {B} {C} {D} will remove health care from a company so that a company can see into the building of other projects and put people back to work.
With the formatted goal of the use of this new concept, to form a more perfect Union within the design of the Health Care program offered, we submitted the up to 2 Trillion dollars per year. This will build a safety net / a buffer to maintain balance.
The billion dollars per year is at a high EST. based at $10.00 x 250 million people. As you can see the numbers above suggest a very high in pack of funds, we can not project a high in pack because dollars are not a constant.
at 100 000 000 million people x 10= $1 000 000 000 billion low ball figures
1 billion x 4 weeks = $4 billion dollars
4 billion x 12 months = $48 billion dollars
so at 100 000 00 the numbers would have to increase to $40.00/per month x $40.00
$40.00 x 48 000 000 000 = $1 220 000 000 000 per year at 100 000 000 people
In the US the progression is:
Hundred - 100
Thousand - 1,000
Million - 1,000,000
Billion - 1,000,000,000
Trillion - 1,000,000,000,000
Quadrillion - 1,000,000,000,000,000
and the interfacing of the FASC Card www.federalactsecuritycard.mysite.com
We need to see into the inter structure of the Presidents concept,without this right we can not help,no matter how much we wish to. It would seem that if you do not play follow the leader on just one concept ,that the door is not really open.
We offer the following concepts and we believe that it will be one that all can respect.

FASC Concepts of a guideline of income and a fair payment for the poor to the rich.
This is a concept to build on.......a idea, a way to bring life to hope where there is none.
CLASS INCOME MONTHLY PAYMENTS
{A} format for people making up to $29000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $40.00 per month
{B} up to $19000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $30.00 per month
{C} up to $12000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $20.00 per month
{D} from 0.00 income to $9000.00 per year / cost up to 0.00 to $10.00 per month
MIDDLE CLASS TO THE POOR
{A} {B} {C} {D} classification based on one person If married policy can be divided or stayed. These are concept numbers to open the mind..............
Submitted by Marh Hidabrand,asked would it not be better to build on , instead of dropping off of the {A}{B}{C}
{E} up to $49000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $50.00 per month
{F} up to $59000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $60.00 per month
{G} up to $69000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $70.00 per month
{H} up to $79000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $80.00 per month
{I} up to $89000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to $90.00 per month
To balance a payment plan to fit within the bills, within a home..........{J} {K} {L} {M} exc......................
Need to balance to stay around $200.00 for above income and below $300.00 for the rich ?
The same incentives apply if husband and wife wish to pay separate.
The same incentives apply for the poor, even if all they can pay is $3.95 per month. No one is cut out of the rebuilding of the inter structure of Health care and the USA.
The money is a investment into our further and is to be tax free, just the money paid in.

You may ask: what about Medicare ? {is it not possible to merge Medicare into this concept ?}
With in this movement the {A} {B} {C} {D} will remove health care from a company so that a company can see into the building of other projects and put people back to work.
With the formatted goal of the use of this new concept, to form a more perfect Union within the design of the Health Care program offered, we submitted the up to 2 Trillion dollars per year. This will build a safety net / a buffer to maintain balance.
The billion dollars per year is at a high EST. based at $10.00 x 250 million people. As you can see the numbers above suggest a very high in pack of funds, we can not project a high in pack because dollars are not a constant.
at 100 000 000 million people x 10= $1 000 000 000 billion low ball figures
1 billion x 4 weeks = $4 billion dollars
4 billion x 12 months = $48 billion dollars
so at 100 000 00 the numbers would have to increase to $40.00/per month x $40.00
$40.00 x 48 000 000 000 = $1 220 000 000 000 per year at 100 000 000 people
In the US the progression is:
Hundred - 100
Thousand - 1,000
Million - 1,000,000
Billion - 1,000,000,000
Trillion - 1,000,000,000,000
Quadrillion - 1,000,000,000,000,000
and the interfacing of the FASC Card www.fascmovement.mysite.com
We need to see into the inter structure of the Presidents concept,without this right we can not help,no matter how much we wish to. It would seem that if you do not play follow the leader on just one concept ,that the door is not really open.
We offer the following concepts and we believe that it will be one that all can respect.
A FASC Concept, Children should be covered by moms or dads coverage at no extra cost. I once heard that their was a saying that is within the Christian world, it is in the best of man that through a concept of God, that He smiles on those who help the poor. Now this is your faith, as shared with people.
FASC Concepts covers the web and is now noted to be the largest site in the U.S.A.