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The New York legislature just gave us more evidence that marriage protection isn’t a losing issue, despite clamoring to the contrary.
On the heels of Maine’s handy rejection of same-sex marriage, the New York state Senate voted 38 to 24 to kill legislation that would have redefined civil marriage to include homosexual couples. In a liberal northeastern state, that comfortable of a margin is akin to a landslide, particularly since Gov. David Paterson promised to sign the measure into law.
To recap, 30 states have amended their constitutions to define marriage as between a man and a woman, and only five states have neither an amendment nor a statute limiting marriage to heterosexuals.
From a strictly political standpoint, I see no reason not to include this issue in the GOP platform. From a strictly historical and cultural viewpoint, I see many reasons why the party should.
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Scott Pandich| 12.2.09 @ 5:26PM
Over at The Corner on NRO, someone pointed out that all the Senate Republicans voted against gay marriage, as did 8 Democrats, and wondered once again how Dede Scozzafava, gay marriage supporter, was considered a middle of the road NY Republican.
Liberal Reader| 12.2.09 @ 6:24PM
It can't be so. According to what I read here at Am. Spec., and according to what I'm instructed to believe by Fox News, liberals are evil people who want to destroy the country and undermine western civilization.
Truth to Power| 12.2.09 @ 7:23PM
Don't confuse Liberal cowardice with any kind of virtue.
ggoblue| 12.2.09 @ 7:30PM
liberals must think so too. none of them ever run for office claiming to be 'liberal'. we sense their shame.
MotherRedDog| 12.2.09 @ 9:57PM
Who do you think the 24 who voted for this perpostorus legislation were? Chinese? When you finally figure out that liberals are only about 20 percent of the population (if that) then you might understand what's going on. Liberals run as moderate and when they think the time is right (Nov 2008) they come out of the closet. No pun intended.
Loud Female| 12.3.09 @ 9:33AM
Dear LR,
Just once, try and sell liberalism, rather than bashing conservatives. Tell us all about how wonderful Reid and Pelosi are, and what great things Senators Byrd and Franken are doing for Americans.
An American| 12.2.09 @ 7:05PM
God hates fags.
Hawaii Conservative| 12.2.09 @ 8:36PM
No, God doesn't "hate fags." God hates homosexual behavior, but he wants all souls to repent and be saved.
You should read your Bible.
Margie| 12.2.09 @ 10:45PM
You are correct. What God hates is sin. All sin. He means business about not accepting it. But He is also rich in Mercy, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love. (Ps. 136:24). And apart from Him, we can do nothing. (Jn. 15:5).
Tim| 12.3.09 @ 11:46AM
Good Grief.
Margie| 12.3.09 @ 11:39PM
Good grief indeed. Or possibly not so good.
John G. | 12.2.09 @ 7:08PM
The obvious answer for the liberals and progressives now in control of all facets of our federal government, is to forge ahead, even harder and more forceful, for gay marriage. Obviously, this is what the "people voted for in 2008" , real "change".
It of course is the Republicans fault that the progressive agenda (gay marriage, healthcare, etc) is not sailing through Democratically-controlled legislative bodies throughout the country.
Liberal Reader| 12.3.09 @ 12:30AM
John G --
Do you ever get around to seeking actual information about these topics?
Obama and both Clintons are opposed to gay marriage; in polls everywhere across the country, in blue states and red, gay marriage is not terribly popular. There's NO real hope of it passing any state legislature.
Gay marriage is hardly "the obvious answer for the liberals."
Nick| 12.2.09 @ 8:44PM
Mr. Bass,
One correction, sir.
There is no such thing as "gay marriage" or "same-sex marriage."
Marriage is lifelong commitment between a man and a woman for the pupose of raising a family. Always has been.
Don't permit the change of language by stinking liberals.
DBinMD| 12.3.09 @ 9:21AM
I got married late in life to a woman past child-bearing age. Am I to assume that you do not consider my marriage legitimate?
In terms of what a marriage always has been, do you mean in the US? And post 1967, when Loving vs. Virginia made Virginia's anti-miscegentaion statute illegal? Who knows, you might not agree with it since the lawsuit was probably brought by one of those "stinking liberals".
By the way nice touch with the "stinking liberals" comment. It's so 14-year old.
Nick| 12.3.09 @ 10:25AM
DBinMD,
"Am I to assume that you do not consider my marriage legitimate?"
Are you really this obtuse?
I will assume that you are.
Although I don't know all your circumstances, of coarse this doesn't make your marriage illegitimate, as long as you were open to having children.
That means no birth-control, for those of you in Rio Linda.
DBinMD| 12.3.09 @ 10:50AM
Actually I was not open to having children. I do love my wife, and we decided to get married. Since you are fairly specific about it, I gather from that you truly do not consider a marriage legitimate if the two people have no intention of having children.
Nick| 12.3.09 @ 12:06PM
DBinMD,
I never implied that you didn't love your wife.
It is not I who decides what a legitimate marriage is, it is a teaching of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. So, it is Almighty God you have a beef with.
Many other faiths have also had the same teaching on marriage, until fairly recently.
Liberal Reader| 12.3.09 @ 12:27AM
God hates fags!
The central doctrine of the "Christian right."
Let's see....
Homosexuality is referred to two or three times in the entire Bible. I think it's once in Leviticus and once in one of Paul's letters N.T. Jesus never once refers to the topic.
I'm not in favor of gay marriage. However, the gay people I've known are decent folks, and I prefer them to bigots like you.
Indiana Alex| 12.3.09 @ 8:15AM
I'm curious to know why a liberal would be against gay marriage.
Perez Hilton| 12.3.09 @ 9:36AM
YOU'RE A DUMB BITCH! OKAY!!!!!
Liberal Reader| 12.3.09 @ 12:34AM
Pat Robertson says Hurricane Katrina was caused by widespread homosexuality in New Orleans. Or was it Jerry Falwell?
Jesus. You people are a bunch of LUNATICS.
Dr Zen | 12.3.09 @ 3:34AM
Yeah, I used to be happily married and then they allowed the fags to marry in this state and now I'm getting a divorce. Damned fags destroyed my marriage. Fuck 'em.
Richard Baker| 12.3.09 @ 5:30AM
Packing sh*t is what we called it in the Army. The next thing will be a demand to be able to marry your German Shepherd. Perversion is.
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Raycol| 12.4.09 @ 12:26AM
Homosexual orientation is not referred to in the Bible. However, sex between men (homosexual activity) is prohibited twice in Leviticus and criticized by Paul in Romans, 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy. And as Liberal Reader said, Jesus never once mentioned it.
It can be shown that the Biblical prohibition and criticism of homosexual activity do not apply today when the sexual activity causes no harm. Also the prohibition and criticism do not apply today because they applied only to the ancient Israelite and Roman cultures. Full reasons for these conclusions are given on the Gay and Christian website (www.gaysandslaves.com).
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Richard Baker| 12.4.09 @ 7:23PM
Raycol:
In Romans 1 it refers to the "vile affections" and "changing" and "leaving" "the natural use." KJV. If that isn't a down on the act of homosexuality, then God was just funning us. This condemnation is in the Old and New Testaments. No amount of word games change the meaning from God. Perversion is.
Dee| 1.3.10 @ 9:16PM
there has always been gays ,what is new is that we all need to know each others life styles in the first place. keep oi in your own bedroom and not in peoples face, That fact is no one would give two shits about it then. gay right,busing.the border.just do the right things for your life.. dont push your view(left or right) on each other.This is what was america.not any more
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