The Army psychiatrist authorities say killed 13 people and
wounded 29 others at the Fort Hood Army Base Thursday was a
recent and frequent customer at a local strip club, employees
of the club told FoxNews.com exclusively.
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan came into the Starz strip club not far
from the base at least three times in the past month.
The general said that while what happened at Fort Hood was a
tragedy, "I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our
diversity becomes a casualty here."
"And it's not just about Muslims," he said. "We have a very
diverse Army. We have a very diverse society. And that gives us
all strength. So again, we need to be very careful with that."
This general has a future as an Obama cabinet member or czar.
Oldefarte| 11.9.09 @ 12:52PM
For any imbicilic moron out there who is unfamiar with the
TROJAN-HORSE concept of ancient Roman warfare, let me try and
'spain it to 'ya, okay? It was the military procedure to encase a
giant wooden horse with soldiers, have it drug inside the gate of
the enemy's castle/fortress, whereupon said soldiers could climb
out of the trojun-horse and surprise/defeat their enemy INSIDE OF
THE CASTLE/FORTRESS. This folks is what is now happening inside
of America [and its military]. Our enemy has sneaked its soldiers
inside our country's administration and its military and are only
waiting for the most opportune monent to climb out of the
WOODEN/TROJUN HORSE and to destroy America from within-------WAKE
UP, AMERICA!!!!!
KarlinPhoenix| 11.9.09 @ 12:52PM
Islam's intention today is world domination, just as it was in
the 7th Century, under Muhammad.
Muslims come to America as Jihadis or as population builders,
"breeder cows" (Islam encourages polygamy, which IS practiced in
America by this subversive group).
Most people do not know what the "penalty" is for leaving Islam:
DEATH! To leave Islam is Apostasy and the penalty for Apostasy is
DEATH. Any Muslim can walk up to you and KILL YOU and it is not a
sin for them to do it.
Islam is not so much a religion as it is a political ideology and
a cult (The Cult of Death). Allah is not the God that all people
worship, contrary to what the liars of Islam like to say.
Instead, Allah is the PAGAN Moon God of the ancient, pre-Muhammad
Arabian Peninsula. Muhammad repackaged the old PAGAN Moon-God
Cult and called it Islam. The Moon God is a blood-thirsty devil
and Muhammad was an apt "Prophet" for this Moon God. Muhammad was
a child-molesting, caravan robbing, slave taking, murderer of
bound captives (he personally killed by chopping-off the heads of
many hundreds of bound captive men and boys, right in front of
the wives and children).
The Cult of Death (Islam) should be outlawed by America, not
coddled and bowed-down to by our military and government. Will
the next military member who "GOES JIHADI" ram a passenger-filled
Civilian airplane with his military jet? Will an artillery crew
suddenly start shelling a nearby town or city (20 miles away)!
Will the "turned Jihadi" use one of our high-tech artillery
missile systems to kill hundreds of us from a great distance,
here in America?
It is only a matter of WHEN not "IF" for this evil to take place.
Dixie Pixie| 11.9.09 @ 1:41PM
To: KarlinPhoenix
Great Post. Unfortunately it is a bit to early for the American
Reconquista. Liberals and the MSM Media still feel safe warm and
cozy in their bubble world.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 2:57PM
The Liberals and the Lame Stream Media didn't feel very safe on
September 11, 2001, as I recall. We ignore Liberals' treachery at
our own peril.
Dixie Pixie| 11.9.09 @ 4:23PM
Right, One minute they were the “Masters of the Universe” living
in the “End of History” secular liberal dominance of the whole
planet and then a headlong crash into reality. It is liberal
delusions and their insistence in demanding everyone live in the
liberal delusions and that is the major problem.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:27PM
Unfortunately for us, we'll get caught in the Liberals'
delusional nightmare, too. They're unerringly stupid.
nessus| 11.9.09 @ 1:15PM
The real issue in my humble opinion is immigration, specifically
immmigration of muslims into our country. You can not fight a war
when you allow the enemy to populate your country (via
immigration) and even serve in uniform in our own Army.
Not politically correct but then again, political correctness is
largely lying in order not to hurt some feelings.
Immigration and the suitability of non-Western peoples like
muslims is the real issue that is never discussed.
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 1:24PM
Those strip clubs you mention are primarily frequented by
American soldiers. At least they aren’t Chippendales! My father
was stationed at Ft Hood back in the 70s when the O clubs had
topless dancers. I remember frequenting the Navy O Clubs with
topless dancers in the early 90s during my stint with the Navy.
This all ended with the Tailhook incident.
You should investigate the devotion to diversity at all costs
mentality at the DoD. All services, not just the Army is subject
to this doctrine. The mindset has changed from providing equal
opportunity for a true meritocracy to ensuring the demographics
of the services resemble a united colors Benetton ad no matter
what the cost in efficiency and unit cohesion.
rod stanton| 11.9.09 @ 1:53PM
THis problem is the direct faul of DHS and the PC
"administrators" there under GWB. DHS was aware of the
psychiatrist's intentions over a year ago. But the PC "managers"
were afraid to do anything.
DHS will never do what we were told it would. It should be torn
down.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 1:56PM
Well, RSM, I see AmSpec and extreme right xenophobia is alive and
well. Republicans are basically an all white, Southern party and
you wish to maintain that status. I understand that. When I was
in the Army I met with antisemitism so perhaps Jews shouldn't
serve either.
Doesn't evangelicalism mean that you want to turn everyone into
Christians? Hmmm....
Well, at least you right wing "conservatives" are consistent --
no non-whites need apply for the Army and no non-whites need
apply to the Republican party.
By the way, nessus, are you an American Indian? If not, we should
have not let your ancestors enter this country....
By the way, this officer was BORN in the United States. Most
terrorists within the U.S. borders are right wing whites
according to Homeland security, and not Muslim Arabs. What about
whites who become terrorists like the shoe bomber? That's it,
let's not have religious freedom. After all, our forefathers
didn't want religious freedom, did they?
ECM| 11.9.09 @ 3:21PM
Wow, that is a staggering amount of ad hominem and non sequiturs
for one post--you must workout!
Observer| 11.9.09 @ 3:36PM
@Bob| 11.9.09 @ 1:56PM
"When I was in the Army"
For what country?
Dixie pixie| 11.9.09 @ 4:01PM
Bob, I liked your posts when when you were “Bob of the Noisy
Funnel Head”. Your recent post was your worst regression into
liberal paranoid delusions yet. Just for your information the FBI
terrorist watch list has over 1 million names but only 50,000 are
Americans. That is less than 5%. Try funny, not paranoid.
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 2:25PM
Bob,
You (probably unknowingly) identified the problem. "Most
terrorists with the U.S. borders are right wing whites according
to Homeland Security and not Muslim Arabs." DHS is too
politically correct to identify the problem. Since 2001 how many
right wing whites have been convicted of murder while hiding in
the trunk of their car sniping at random victims, how many right
wing whites have killed people at El Al ticket counters, how many
right wing whites have killed soldiers aboard military
installations, how many right wing whites have been convicted of
conspiracy to kill soldiers at military installations, how many
right wing whites have been convicted of aiding A' Qaeda?
Finally, Richard Reid is a British Citizen of mixed (Jamaican and
British) heritage.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:28PM
....and how many right wing whites have killed abortion doctors,
local families, Oklahoma, etc.? I don't have a problem with
targeting radicals whether they be Muslim or part of Operation
Rescue. I grew up in a black neighborhood so I understand DWB and
believe some of that targeting is just fine. However, the
diversity of Germans, Italians, Spanish, Jews, Russians, and
Africans (and many more) have made this country great. We should
stand for religious freedom but criminalize bad behavior.
In the next 20-30 years, Christian whites will be a minority in
this country -- get used to it.
By the way, I do have a problem with political correctness when
it goes too far -- as it did with the Hassan case. He was
reported to his superiors several times about his political views
and they did nothing. From what I can gather, there are about
30,000 Muslims in the U.S. military. We've had no problems from
about 29,999 of them. Think about it....
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 4:49PM
Since 2001, I count one abortionist killed, George Tiller, who
was killed the same week that an American Muslim killed an Army
recruiter. I thought (apparently more than you did) about your
assertion that we have only had problems from one military
Muslim, Nidel Hasan. What about Sgt Hasan Akbar who killed two
American officers in Kuwait? What about former Sgt Ali Mohammed
who pled guilty to participating in the 1998 American Embassy
bombings?
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 3:08PM
HuffPo Bob the 'RINO' fiscal Conservative strikes again! As a
Republican, of course, he would point out that the REAL American
terrorists today are the patriotic white folks in his own party
such as returning vets, gun owners and pro-lifers. Of course.
Is it possible that HuffPo Bob the 'RINO' is lying and is really
an Axelrod Astroturf troll? Only Scum-bucket 'RINO' Bob knows for
sure.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:30PM
Hey, extremist SoCon -- I am a vet and a gun owner. Are you????
Did you serve our country??? I didn't think so... Just like
Cheney, Rush, Hannity, and Beck....
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 6:40PM
I served my country during Vietnam,scumbag, and I doubt very much
you did anything like that unless it was as a rear echolon pussy.
You have all the markings of a psychotic left wing nut job. Your
rants should be ignored.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 6:40PM
Well, then, HuffPo Bob the 'RINO', according to Homeland
Security's Terrorist Watch List, you are a bonafide American
TERRORIST for sure, and a lying old white guy terrorist at that!
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 3:16PM
One thing's for sure: Bob is an incompetent whack job and a
habitual liar who knows ZERO about his professed area of
expertise.
Wow - great resume for an Obama czar!
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:39PM
Is that right? Please, Grzmlyk, show me the inflation adjusted
chart that shows tax cuts raise revenues more than tax increases.
Hmmmm.... I guess we understand who knows very little...
Remember, people who live in glass houses.... etc., etc., etc.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 6:41PM
3/5 Bob, isn't there a Bible out there that needs to be
translated?
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 3:27PM
Folks
Old Bob keeps forgetting the brilliant black persons among us:
Judge Bork, Thomas Sowell, Supreme Justice (senior moment), and
Lloyd Marcus...et al.
True American patriots.
...or in Bobs's twisted little psyche...they are all "house
n___ERs".
Bob, you need a raise from Mr. Soros...or do better.
...or get fired.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:37PM
Bork was white and I'd forget Thomas as well. At the last
Republican convention there were only 35 black delegates out of
thousands. Thanks, Ken, for proving that AmSpec readers have very
little knowledge.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 4:01PM
Bob, I repeat: you are a whack job and a liar.
And incompetent.
I am amused, however, at your pre-emptive strike against what i
guess you thought I was going to say. I get it bob: No one ever
has, or ever will, pay more than, what did you decree? 28% of
their income in taxes, according to you. No need to worry, then.
And yes, GDP just keeps going up, up up and the numbers aren't
tainted at all. Okie dokie. And government spending doesn't
represent the dilution of GDP by taking an ever-larger portion of
productive dollars and put them to unproductive use.
Dude, you are an idiot. And if you ever WERE a CFO, or whatever
it is you claim to have been, my guess is you were summarily
fired within one quarter. But no doubt you have a chart to
disprove that as well.
And serving in the military? That's a new one!
Ya keep us stitches. By all means, continue to be a religion of
one. Nice ecoystem you have there; you are both the worshipped
and the worshipper. Doesn't it ever get lonely, you know, with
zero followers? You know, besides yourself?
Resume Enhancer| 11.9.09 @ 4:54PM
Dude if you follow Bob you know he is, has, or was:
- A financial expert
- A Harvard grad but he went to Harvard while working 80 hours a
week and raising a family
- Bob also lived in South Central with the brothas
- He was Special Forces in the Army
- And now he is a Jew to top it all off
There's probably other stuff I've missed but I usually skip over
his drivel, so for all I know he's added a few whoppers to his
internet resume.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 5:35PM
Pretty close, except that I was in military intelligence and not
special forces in the Army. In Nam I worked under General Ewell
in HQ II Field Force. By the way, the people at AmSpec can
confirm all of this is true. But then again, you extremists are
not interested in facts....
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 6:43PM
Were you the guinea pig they tried out all those mind bending
drugs on? you're a nutcase, pal, and you can spew out all the
names you want...the only one that matters is the name of your
caretaker.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:17PM
Resume, you forgot to add the little tidbit about Bob translating
the Bible when he was fifteen. Ran scorched him good for that
whopper!
Resume Enhancer| 11.9.09 @ 8:09PM
Sorry like I said I missed a ton of his stuff as I started
skipping it months ago. Usually his posts can be summed up
thusly:
Me smart, SoCons/Sarah Palin are ruining the republican party,
blah blah blah, oh and here's a chart.
Maybe he translated the Bible into Ebonics as after all he was
living in South Central wit' de Bloods an' de Crips?????
What is it they say about "military intelligence" again? LOL!
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 9:45PM
"...blah blah blah, oh and here's a chart." Hahaha!
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 5:02PM
Well well well the chickens are certainly coming home to roost! I
remember about a year ago when I posted as "Active Duty Guy" I
was labeled a troll for bringing up how things like political
correctness has infected our military, and how most officers are
merely politicians who care more about their next rank than the
safety and security of their troops, let alone the nation. But
since I wasn't a republican zombie I was labeled a troll.
Nice that I am vindicated, but unfortunately it cost the lives of
13 soldiers. Are we awake yet folks? Still OK with all those
"moderate" muslims walking around (plotting your destruction)?
When I was on active duty at one of my last assignments there was
a muslim who worked with TS COMSEC material every day. NOBODY saw
an issue with that, even when he traveled to Turkey for his
arranged islamic marriage. He was a "moderate" doncha know?
Haha! Hey, maybe it'll be your loved one who gets blown away by
the next kook islamic nut who decides to take out a few infidels
to ensure his 72 virgins and little boys in "paradise." Chalk up
their death to political correctness. I wonder how many more
"Major Hasans" are in the military RIGHT NOW spouting off
anti-American jihadi garbage and who's commanders are too afraid
to do anything for fear of not getting that next big promotion?
Don't YOU?
Smitty| 11.9.09 @ 7:21PM
Retired Guy, I think you're confused; that's Huffington Post
you're talking about, we're AmSpec, the Conservative site,
remember?
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 8:04PM
Why the hate Smitty? All I did was speak the truth. I said and
will continue to say that PC BS has infected the US Military to
our peril. You may think every member of the military is some
kind of cape-wearing, right-wing hero, but I'm here to tell you
they're not. I would think even right-wing pom-pom waving zombies
would have to agree that current events bear this truth out, but
it appears some are more concerned with labels than truth. It is
truly sad that you are more concerned with nitwit replies than
the reality that there are probably more Major Hasans in uniform
right now just waiting to explode. Whatever dude.
Yeah, Amspec, the conservative sight, where just today you got
Quin Hillyer making excuses for Joseph Cao. Yeah, conservative my
butt. Where every week you can count on a lecture or two about
"big tent" nonsense.
Smitty| 11.9.09 @ 8:39PM
No hate here, Retired; I'm just saying you're preaching to the
choir here at AmSpec.
Sure, Quin and Klein are a little squishy and there are moronic
trolls like 'RINO' Bob on this site, but most of us, like you,
detest PC and are disgusted with the Army for their betrayal of
these young soldiers. Absolutely disgusted.
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 9:57PM
Fair enough. I apologize for misunderstanding.
Nick| 11.9.09 @ 5:10PM
Don't waste your time with 3/5 Bob folks.
In case you didn't know, until recently (last June), 3/5 Bob
thought that blacks had 3/5 of a vote under the U.S.
Constitution, as originally written.
He also doesn't know when biological HUMAN life begins because he
is not sure when "ensoulment" takes place.
And I just learned he falsely claimed to have translated the
Bible from the original Aramaic when he was 15.
He is a pseudointellectual, ignore him.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 5:38PM
Thank you, Nick, for encouraging me to post more. Personal
attacks are always more effective than the truth or arguing on
the merits. You must have gone to school with Palin....
Nick| 11.9.09 @ 5:46PM
3/5 Bob,
How is it a personal attack to use your own words against you?
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:23PM
Nick, I think Bob just had a "Senior Moment" of his own.
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 7:15PM
The rottenest of the PC world is coming to the surface quite
quickly. This incident is the worst of many incidences where
PC'ism has overtaken common sense. Hopefully the majhority of
people are starting to see thru this and thru people like that
"Bob". I think we are having the second "Great Awakening" this
nation, hopefully it's not too late. The damage that was started
under Clinton, expanded under Bush, and culminated under Obama is
finally forcing people to wake up. Let's hope next Novemeber will
become the starting point of reclaiming our nation from these
other domestic terrorists.
Liberal Reader| 11.9.09 @ 7:37PM
The Army has not "ceased to exist."
It just doesn't exist in the considerations of the chickenhawks
who were thoughtless cheerleaders of the Iraq and Afghanistan
Wars.
"They're paying for it. You eat it."
What do YOU care, after all, about the sacrifices of men who
serve two, three, four years abroad?
What do YOU care about the substandard medical treatment to which
these men have been subjected?
You think that mindless support of Bush / Cheney policies, no
matter what their consequences, is patriotic and that it is
actually what the troops need.
And look at how well it's paid off! 8 years in Afghanistan, and
NO ONE, Republican or Democrat, can give the American people a
good reason we're still there. And 6 years in Iraq, 4,000 dead,
at least, and NO ONE can say what the hell we're there for.
But to ask? Well, hell, THAT's the real offense to our troops,
isn't it.
Again, McCain. How can you BE so obtuse? Why bother to be a
writer at all? You don't have anything to contribute that any one
of the dumb hicks posting on this thread couldn't easily deliver
after a few beers.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 8:44PM
Dumbshit! You would defend the terrorists against your fellow
Americans.
You are a nasty piece of human excrement, LR/Jeremiah: Too bad
post-natal abortions aren't legal for liberals like you.
Mary Louise| 11.9.09 @ 9:39PM
There must be good Muslim men, but that faction that this guy
represents has to be the most inadequate faction of men in the
world. He probably owns every episode of Baywatch.
There was such good will towards Obama just before and after his
election. I felt it myself. RET wrote a warm piece noting that
Europe had still to elect a black leader while we, here in the
supposed backwater of the US, did it proudly.
I have to admit it faded fast. Maybe it was the Toastmaster Chic
of the Office of the President Elect and traveling lectern that
made the whole thing seem a bad dream.
And the inauguration was just as bad. That stupid little
diversity ditty by the portly reverend was such a load of crap.
Anyone who has ever lived and moved in the heart of a City knows
his whole rap was as false as Obama's perfunctory nod to being
the president of all Americans.
Live in a City. Listen to a black woman who mocks the speech
pattern of Hispanics. Witness that it's a white girl an
illiterate cleaner comes to and asks if she would read a letter
to him that he doesn't understand. He doesn't seem to want to go
to his own people. Maybe that’s because he encounters a bigotry
there that wounds him.
Listen to the black women talk about 'she light. she nice.' What
happened to Black Is Beautiful? Don’t ask.
That reverend's pitch was the exact opposite of the truth. Black
and brown really don't give a damn if either one gets to come on
down. And if Yellow catches you sidling up to his sister, that's
likely to become a real problem.
Mark| 11.10.09 @ 3:49PM
The army needs to seriously reconsider it's mental health
services. There's a really good article on Hasan and the
psychological casualties of war here: http://blog.psaonline.org/2009.....r-shut-up/
Jamie| 11.10.09 @ 3:57PM
The Army seriously needs to reconsider its worship of Political
Correctness; their priorities are all screwed up.
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 7:12PM
Pete2:
I guess Bob was a REMF, if he served at all.
signed,
ex-SSG, Infantry
USA
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 7:19PM
Liberal Reader:
So let me understand. 3,000+ dead on 9/11, millions of Moslem
terrorists committed to the death of us all, and you say that
there is no reason for us to be in what the young troops today
call SW Asia? Do you actually LIVE in the United States? Also,
your obvious solution is to come home and hope for the best when
we have to fight them in our streets? This is intellect? Strange
form, thereof.
ECM| 11.9.09 @ 12:50PM
This general has a future as an Obama cabinet member or czar.
Oldefarte| 11.9.09 @ 12:52PM
For any imbicilic moron out there who is unfamiar with the TROJAN-HORSE concept of ancient Roman warfare, let me try and 'spain it to 'ya, okay? It was the military procedure to encase a giant wooden horse with soldiers, have it drug inside the gate of the enemy's castle/fortress, whereupon said soldiers could climb out of the trojun-horse and surprise/defeat their enemy INSIDE OF THE CASTLE/FORTRESS. This folks is what is now happening inside of America [and its military]. Our enemy has sneaked its soldiers inside our country's administration and its military and are only waiting for the most opportune monent to climb out of the WOODEN/TROJUN HORSE and to destroy America from within-------WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!!!
KarlinPhoenix| 11.9.09 @ 12:52PM
Islam's intention today is world domination, just as it was in the 7th Century, under Muhammad.
Muslims come to America as Jihadis or as population builders, "breeder cows" (Islam encourages polygamy, which IS practiced in America by this subversive group).
Most people do not know what the "penalty" is for leaving Islam: DEATH! To leave Islam is Apostasy and the penalty for Apostasy is DEATH. Any Muslim can walk up to you and KILL YOU and it is not a sin for them to do it.
Islam is not so much a religion as it is a political ideology and a cult (The Cult of Death). Allah is not the God that all people worship, contrary to what the liars of Islam like to say. Instead, Allah is the PAGAN Moon God of the ancient, pre-Muhammad Arabian Peninsula. Muhammad repackaged the old PAGAN Moon-God Cult and called it Islam. The Moon God is a blood-thirsty devil and Muhammad was an apt "Prophet" for this Moon God. Muhammad was a child-molesting, caravan robbing, slave taking, murderer of bound captives (he personally killed by chopping-off the heads of many hundreds of bound captive men and boys, right in front of the wives and children).
The Cult of Death (Islam) should be outlawed by America, not coddled and bowed-down to by our military and government. Will the next military member who "GOES JIHADI" ram a passenger-filled Civilian airplane with his military jet? Will an artillery crew suddenly start shelling a nearby town or city (20 miles away)! Will the "turned Jihadi" use one of our high-tech artillery missile systems to kill hundreds of us from a great distance, here in America?
It is only a matter of WHEN not "IF" for this evil to take place.
Dixie Pixie| 11.9.09 @ 1:41PM
To: KarlinPhoenix
Great Post. Unfortunately it is a bit to early for the American Reconquista. Liberals and the MSM Media still feel safe warm and cozy in their bubble world.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 2:57PM
The Liberals and the Lame Stream Media didn't feel very safe on September 11, 2001, as I recall. We ignore Liberals' treachery at our own peril.
Dixie Pixie| 11.9.09 @ 4:23PM
Right, One minute they were the “Masters of the Universe” living in the “End of History” secular liberal dominance of the whole planet and then a headlong crash into reality. It is liberal delusions and their insistence in demanding everyone live in the liberal delusions and that is the major problem.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:27PM
Unfortunately for us, we'll get caught in the Liberals' delusional nightmare, too. They're unerringly stupid.
nessus| 11.9.09 @ 1:15PM
The real issue in my humble opinion is immigration, specifically immmigration of muslims into our country. You can not fight a war when you allow the enemy to populate your country (via immigration) and even serve in uniform in our own Army.
Not politically correct but then again, political correctness is largely lying in order not to hurt some feelings.
Immigration and the suitability of non-Western peoples like muslims is the real issue that is never discussed.
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 1:24PM
Those strip clubs you mention are primarily frequented by American soldiers. At least they aren’t Chippendales! My father was stationed at Ft Hood back in the 70s when the O clubs had topless dancers. I remember frequenting the Navy O Clubs with topless dancers in the early 90s during my stint with the Navy. This all ended with the Tailhook incident.
You should investigate the devotion to diversity at all costs mentality at the DoD. All services, not just the Army is subject to this doctrine. The mindset has changed from providing equal opportunity for a true meritocracy to ensuring the demographics of the services resemble a united colors Benetton ad no matter what the cost in efficiency and unit cohesion.
rod stanton| 11.9.09 @ 1:53PM
THis problem is the direct faul of DHS and the PC "administrators" there under GWB. DHS was aware of the psychiatrist's intentions over a year ago. But the PC "managers" were afraid to do anything.
DHS will never do what we were told it would. It should be torn down.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 1:56PM
Well, RSM, I see AmSpec and extreme right xenophobia is alive and well. Republicans are basically an all white, Southern party and you wish to maintain that status. I understand that. When I was in the Army I met with antisemitism so perhaps Jews shouldn't serve either.
Doesn't evangelicalism mean that you want to turn everyone into Christians? Hmmm....
Well, at least you right wing "conservatives" are consistent -- no non-whites need apply for the Army and no non-whites need apply to the Republican party.
By the way, nessus, are you an American Indian? If not, we should have not let your ancestors enter this country....
By the way, this officer was BORN in the United States. Most terrorists within the U.S. borders are right wing whites according to Homeland security, and not Muslim Arabs. What about whites who become terrorists like the shoe bomber? That's it, let's not have religious freedom. After all, our forefathers didn't want religious freedom, did they?
ECM| 11.9.09 @ 3:21PM
Wow, that is a staggering amount of ad hominem and non sequiturs for one post--you must workout!
Observer| 11.9.09 @ 3:36PM
@Bob| 11.9.09 @ 1:56PM
"When I was in the Army"
For what country?
Dixie pixie| 11.9.09 @ 4:01PM
Bob, I liked your posts when when you were “Bob of the Noisy Funnel Head”. Your recent post was your worst regression into liberal paranoid delusions yet. Just for your information the FBI terrorist watch list has over 1 million names but only 50,000 are Americans. That is less than 5%. Try funny, not paranoid.
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 2:25PM
Bob,
You (probably unknowingly) identified the problem. "Most terrorists with the U.S. borders are right wing whites according to Homeland Security and not Muslim Arabs." DHS is too politically correct to identify the problem. Since 2001 how many right wing whites have been convicted of murder while hiding in the trunk of their car sniping at random victims, how many right wing whites have killed people at El Al ticket counters, how many right wing whites have killed soldiers aboard military installations, how many right wing whites have been convicted of conspiracy to kill soldiers at military installations, how many right wing whites have been convicted of aiding A' Qaeda? Finally, Richard Reid is a British Citizen of mixed (Jamaican and British) heritage.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:28PM
....and how many right wing whites have killed abortion doctors, local families, Oklahoma, etc.? I don't have a problem with targeting radicals whether they be Muslim or part of Operation Rescue. I grew up in a black neighborhood so I understand DWB and believe some of that targeting is just fine. However, the diversity of Germans, Italians, Spanish, Jews, Russians, and Africans (and many more) have made this country great. We should stand for religious freedom but criminalize bad behavior.
In the next 20-30 years, Christian whites will be a minority in this country -- get used to it.
By the way, I do have a problem with political correctness when it goes too far -- as it did with the Hassan case. He was reported to his superiors several times about his political views and they did nothing. From what I can gather, there are about 30,000 Muslims in the U.S. military. We've had no problems from about 29,999 of them. Think about it....
Charles H. Kuhl| 11.9.09 @ 4:49PM
Since 2001, I count one abortionist killed, George Tiller, who was killed the same week that an American Muslim killed an Army recruiter. I thought (apparently more than you did) about your assertion that we have only had problems from one military Muslim, Nidel Hasan. What about Sgt Hasan Akbar who killed two American officers in Kuwait? What about former Sgt Ali Mohammed who pled guilty to participating in the 1998 American Embassy bombings?
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 3:08PM
HuffPo Bob the 'RINO' fiscal Conservative strikes again! As a Republican, of course, he would point out that the REAL American terrorists today are the patriotic white folks in his own party such as returning vets, gun owners and pro-lifers. Of course.
Is it possible that HuffPo Bob the 'RINO' is lying and is really an Axelrod Astroturf troll? Only Scum-bucket 'RINO' Bob knows for sure.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:30PM
Hey, extremist SoCon -- I am a vet and a gun owner. Are you???? Did you serve our country??? I didn't think so... Just like Cheney, Rush, Hannity, and Beck....
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 6:40PM
I served my country during Vietnam,scumbag, and I doubt very much you did anything like that unless it was as a rear echolon pussy. You have all the markings of a psychotic left wing nut job. Your rants should be ignored.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 6:40PM
Well, then, HuffPo Bob the 'RINO', according to Homeland Security's Terrorist Watch List, you are a bonafide American TERRORIST for sure, and a lying old white guy terrorist at that!
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 3:16PM
One thing's for sure: Bob is an incompetent whack job and a habitual liar who knows ZERO about his professed area of expertise.
Wow - great resume for an Obama czar!
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:39PM
Is that right? Please, Grzmlyk, show me the inflation adjusted chart that shows tax cuts raise revenues more than tax increases. Hmmmm.... I guess we understand who knows very little... Remember, people who live in glass houses.... etc., etc., etc.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 6:41PM
3/5 Bob, isn't there a Bible out there that needs to be translated?
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.9.09 @ 3:27PM
Folks
Old Bob keeps forgetting the brilliant black persons among us: Judge Bork, Thomas Sowell, Supreme Justice (senior moment), and Lloyd Marcus...et al.
True American patriots.
...or in Bobs's twisted little psyche...they are all "house n___ERs".
Bob, you need a raise from Mr. Soros...or do better.
...or get fired.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 3:37PM
Bork was white and I'd forget Thomas as well. At the last Republican convention there were only 35 black delegates out of thousands. Thanks, Ken, for proving that AmSpec readers have very little knowledge.
Grzmlyk| 11.9.09 @ 4:01PM
Bob, I repeat: you are a whack job and a liar.
And incompetent.
I am amused, however, at your pre-emptive strike against what i guess you thought I was going to say. I get it bob: No one ever has, or ever will, pay more than, what did you decree? 28% of their income in taxes, according to you. No need to worry, then. And yes, GDP just keeps going up, up up and the numbers aren't tainted at all. Okie dokie. And government spending doesn't represent the dilution of GDP by taking an ever-larger portion of productive dollars and put them to unproductive use.
Dude, you are an idiot. And if you ever WERE a CFO, or whatever it is you claim to have been, my guess is you were summarily fired within one quarter. But no doubt you have a chart to disprove that as well.
And serving in the military? That's a new one!
Ya keep us stitches. By all means, continue to be a religion of one. Nice ecoystem you have there; you are both the worshipped and the worshipper. Doesn't it ever get lonely, you know, with zero followers? You know, besides yourself?
Resume Enhancer| 11.9.09 @ 4:54PM
Dude if you follow Bob you know he is, has, or was:
- A financial expert
- A Harvard grad but he went to Harvard while working 80 hours a week and raising a family
- Bob also lived in South Central with the brothas
- He was Special Forces in the Army
- And now he is a Jew to top it all off
There's probably other stuff I've missed but I usually skip over his drivel, so for all I know he's added a few whoppers to his internet resume.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 5:35PM
Pretty close, except that I was in military intelligence and not special forces in the Army. In Nam I worked under General Ewell in HQ II Field Force. By the way, the people at AmSpec can confirm all of this is true. But then again, you extremists are not interested in facts....
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 6:43PM
Were you the guinea pig they tried out all those mind bending drugs on? you're a nutcase, pal, and you can spew out all the names you want...the only one that matters is the name of your caretaker.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:17PM
Resume, you forgot to add the little tidbit about Bob translating the Bible when he was fifteen. Ran scorched him good for that whopper!
Resume Enhancer| 11.9.09 @ 8:09PM
Sorry like I said I missed a ton of his stuff as I started skipping it months ago. Usually his posts can be summed up thusly:
Me smart, SoCons/Sarah Palin are ruining the republican party, blah blah blah, oh and here's a chart.
Maybe he translated the Bible into Ebonics as after all he was living in South Central wit' de Bloods an' de Crips?????
What is it they say about "military intelligence" again? LOL!
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 9:45PM
"...blah blah blah, oh and here's a chart." Hahaha!
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 5:02PM
Well well well the chickens are certainly coming home to roost! I remember about a year ago when I posted as "Active Duty Guy" I was labeled a troll for bringing up how things like political correctness has infected our military, and how most officers are merely politicians who care more about their next rank than the safety and security of their troops, let alone the nation. But since I wasn't a republican zombie I was labeled a troll.
Nice that I am vindicated, but unfortunately it cost the lives of 13 soldiers. Are we awake yet folks? Still OK with all those "moderate" muslims walking around (plotting your destruction)?
When I was on active duty at one of my last assignments there was a muslim who worked with TS COMSEC material every day. NOBODY saw an issue with that, even when he traveled to Turkey for his arranged islamic marriage. He was a "moderate" doncha know?
Haha! Hey, maybe it'll be your loved one who gets blown away by the next kook islamic nut who decides to take out a few infidels to ensure his 72 virgins and little boys in "paradise." Chalk up their death to political correctness. I wonder how many more "Major Hasans" are in the military RIGHT NOW spouting off anti-American jihadi garbage and who's commanders are too afraid to do anything for fear of not getting that next big promotion? Don't YOU?
Smitty| 11.9.09 @ 7:21PM
Retired Guy, I think you're confused; that's Huffington Post you're talking about, we're AmSpec, the Conservative site, remember?
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 8:04PM
Why the hate Smitty? All I did was speak the truth. I said and will continue to say that PC BS has infected the US Military to our peril. You may think every member of the military is some kind of cape-wearing, right-wing hero, but I'm here to tell you they're not. I would think even right-wing pom-pom waving zombies would have to agree that current events bear this truth out, but it appears some are more concerned with labels than truth. It is truly sad that you are more concerned with nitwit replies than the reality that there are probably more Major Hasans in uniform right now just waiting to explode. Whatever dude.
Yeah, Amspec, the conservative sight, where just today you got Quin Hillyer making excuses for Joseph Cao. Yeah, conservative my butt. Where every week you can count on a lecture or two about "big tent" nonsense.
Smitty| 11.9.09 @ 8:39PM
No hate here, Retired; I'm just saying you're preaching to the choir here at AmSpec.
Sure, Quin and Klein are a little squishy and there are moronic trolls like 'RINO' Bob on this site, but most of us, like you, detest PC and are disgusted with the Army for their betrayal of these young soldiers. Absolutely disgusted.
Retired Guy| 11.9.09 @ 9:57PM
Fair enough. I apologize for misunderstanding.
Nick| 11.9.09 @ 5:10PM
Don't waste your time with 3/5 Bob folks.
In case you didn't know, until recently (last June), 3/5 Bob thought that blacks had 3/5 of a vote under the U.S. Constitution, as originally written.
He also doesn't know when biological HUMAN life begins because he is not sure when "ensoulment" takes place.
And I just learned he falsely claimed to have translated the Bible from the original Aramaic when he was 15.
He is a pseudointellectual, ignore him.
Bob| 11.9.09 @ 5:38PM
Thank you, Nick, for encouraging me to post more. Personal attacks are always more effective than the truth or arguing on the merits. You must have gone to school with Palin....
Nick| 11.9.09 @ 5:46PM
3/5 Bob,
How is it a personal attack to use your own words against you?
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 7:23PM
Nick, I think Bob just had a "Senior Moment" of his own.
Pete2| 11.9.09 @ 7:15PM
The rottenest of the PC world is coming to the surface quite quickly. This incident is the worst of many incidences where PC'ism has overtaken common sense. Hopefully the majhority of people are starting to see thru this and thru people like that "Bob". I think we are having the second "Great Awakening" this nation, hopefully it's not too late. The damage that was started under Clinton, expanded under Bush, and culminated under Obama is finally forcing people to wake up. Let's hope next Novemeber will become the starting point of reclaiming our nation from these other domestic terrorists.
Liberal Reader| 11.9.09 @ 7:37PM
The Army has not "ceased to exist."
It just doesn't exist in the considerations of the chickenhawks who were thoughtless cheerleaders of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.
"They're paying for it. You eat it."
What do YOU care, after all, about the sacrifices of men who serve two, three, four years abroad?
What do YOU care about the substandard medical treatment to which these men have been subjected?
You think that mindless support of Bush / Cheney policies, no matter what their consequences, is patriotic and that it is actually what the troops need.
And look at how well it's paid off! 8 years in Afghanistan, and NO ONE, Republican or Democrat, can give the American people a good reason we're still there. And 6 years in Iraq, 4,000 dead, at least, and NO ONE can say what the hell we're there for.
But to ask? Well, hell, THAT's the real offense to our troops, isn't it.
Again, McCain. How can you BE so obtuse? Why bother to be a writer at all? You don't have anything to contribute that any one of the dumb hicks posting on this thread couldn't easily deliver after a few beers.
SoCon| 11.9.09 @ 8:44PM
Dumbshit! You would defend the terrorists against your fellow Americans.
You are a nasty piece of human excrement, LR/Jeremiah: Too bad post-natal abortions aren't legal for liberals like you.
Mary Louise| 11.9.09 @ 9:39PM
There must be good Muslim men, but that faction that this guy represents has to be the most inadequate faction of men in the world. He probably owns every episode of Baywatch.
There was such good will towards Obama just before and after his election. I felt it myself. RET wrote a warm piece noting that Europe had still to elect a black leader while we, here in the supposed backwater of the US, did it proudly.
I have to admit it faded fast. Maybe it was the Toastmaster Chic of the Office of the President Elect and traveling lectern that made the whole thing seem a bad dream.
And the inauguration was just as bad. That stupid little diversity ditty by the portly reverend was such a load of crap.
Anyone who has ever lived and moved in the heart of a City knows his whole rap was as false as Obama's perfunctory nod to being the president of all Americans.
Live in a City. Listen to a black woman who mocks the speech pattern of Hispanics. Witness that it's a white girl an illiterate cleaner comes to and asks if she would read a letter to him that he doesn't understand. He doesn't seem to want to go to his own people. Maybe that’s because he encounters a bigotry there that wounds him.
Listen to the black women talk about 'she light. she nice.' What happened to Black Is Beautiful? Don’t ask.
That reverend's pitch was the exact opposite of the truth. Black and brown really don't give a damn if either one gets to come on down. And if Yellow catches you sidling up to his sister, that's likely to become a real problem.
Mark| 11.10.09 @ 3:49PM
The army needs to seriously reconsider it's mental health services. There's a really good article on Hasan and the psychological casualties of war here:
http://blog.psaonline.org/2009.....r-shut-up/
Jamie| 11.10.09 @ 3:57PM
The Army seriously needs to reconsider its worship of Political Correctness; their priorities are all screwed up.
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 7:12PM
Pete2:
I guess Bob was a REMF, if he served at all.
signed,
ex-SSG, Infantry
USA
Richard Baker| 11.12.09 @ 7:19PM
Liberal Reader:
So let me understand. 3,000+ dead on 9/11, millions of Moslem terrorists committed to the death of us all, and you say that there is no reason for us to be in what the young troops today call SW Asia? Do you actually LIVE in the United States? Also, your obvious solution is to come home and hope for the best when we have to fight them in our streets? This is intellect? Strange form, thereof.
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