As I wrote yesterday, it's important to be cautious when
commenting about the massacre at Ft. Hood, because early media
reports often turn out to be wrong. With that said, we now have
several details that portray shooting suspect Nidal Malik Hasan
as a devout Muslim who was adamantly opposed to the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan and was conflicted about being in a position
where he would have to fight fellow Muslims.
A former Fort Hood colleague of the shooter said Hasan
would frequently make "outlandish" comments.
"He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the
aggressor," retired Col. Terry Lee told Fox News. "At first we
thought he meant help the armed forces, but apparently that
wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments we
shouldn't be in the war in the first place."
Yesterday, the Associated Press
reported that the authorities had monitored web postings that
may have been written by Hasan, in which the author portrays
suicide bombers in a heroic light. The AP also reported that
soldiers who witnessed the shooting say Hasan
shouted "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire.
Last night, CNN showed surveillance footage taken
yesterday morning of Hasan at a convenience store near the base
dressed in traditional Muslim garb. According to a CNN producer
who spoke with the store owner, Hasan was a regular, and about a
week ago, told the owner that he was stressed about his imminent
deployment to Iraq. "[Hasan] expressed that he had a problem, I
guess one would judge it as a religious conflict, but as a fellow
Muslim, and someone of faith, he had a problem with having
perhaps the opportunity in the future to have to shoot or kill or
injure or fight fellow Muslims," the CNN producer recounted. "And
that was something that was weighing heavily on him."
I agree with the sentiment that this incident shouldn't be used
as a blanket indictment of all Muslims serving in the military.
But there should be some sort of middle ground between putting
every Muslim in the U.S. armed forces under suspicion, and
letting political correctness put the lives of our soldiers in
danger. If further evidence confirms the emerging narrative, this
is an instance in which it seems that there were a lot of warning
signs and red flags. And to be clear, when I refer to "political
correctness" I'm not blaming yesterday's tragedy on political
correctness, because that would be irresponsible based on what we
know now. What I mean is that going forward, it would be
troubling if political correctness prohibited us from discussing
ways to prevent an officer with Hasan's views from being in a
position to kill U.S. soldiers on a military post. This is not an
matter of Muslims in the military, it's about how to make sure
that we don't have people in our military whose loyalty to our
enemies puts our own men and women in danger.
Why do i think of Abu Nidal when I see this man's name?
Ted Gruen| 11.6.09 @ 2:12PM
Once again there are those who will always find a way to
offhandedly blame it on the Jews. S.L.Toddard, regurgitating
standard Arab myths, presupposes that Hasan's immediate family
had "deep roots" in Palestine going back thousands of years
(therefore not possibly in Roanoke, VA) "until they were driven
out by Israeli terrorist violence".
Writing in the 1890's while Zionist settlement of
Ottoman-controlled lands later called Israel, the PA, and Jordan
was still barely a trickle, Mark Twain reported after his travels
there that the area was miserably poor & sparsely populated
by anyone, Muslims included. When they feel like it, all kinds of
people among Palestinians will drop the real facts about their
ancestors: they came there mostly only in the last century and a
half, not least because of the burgeoning economic transformation
wrought there by the Jewish settlement movement. Among other
relatively recent newcomers: descendants of various Egyptian camp
follower types who came in mobs with various Egypt-based Ottoman
punitive expeditions in the 18th century against the local
inhabitants of such non-Israeli towns as Gaza, Jenin and Nablus.
(Ask people from Ramallah and you'll get a "yes" in private, but
a ferocious "no" in public with other Arabs.) So spare me the
myth that the recently-named Palestinians are the Canaanites of
old who contended with those pesky Israelites.
As for Toddard's advice that Muslims in the United States armed
services not be pressed into fighting their coreligionists, I
know of at least one instance where this same policy was
discreetly applied to Jews. During the brief Suez War in 1956
when Eisenhower threatened military action against the British,
French and Israeli invaders of Egypt, every Jew in the United
States 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean, down to the lowest cook
& bottlewasher, was called in one at a time and asked if he
would willingly fire on Israeli troops -- those who said "no"
were quietly transferred to onshore duty in Naples and the fleet
steamed eastward, hot & ready for fighting action that never
was implemented. The Navy could afford this maneuver because so
few people were involved and because there was no instablogging
in those days, only the same establishment media who did as they
were told.
Now that we have an all-volunteer army, though, such a policy as
regards Muslims (Christians don't need it; they have always been
willing to kill the right Christians for the right reasons) is no
more accessible than the lately-trashed "don't ask - don't tell"
policy.
But only once someone has been sworn in. Why not have a vetting
process for all applicants for service in the military? The same
test would be given to all comers, irrespective of religion but
specific about which religionists they would help fight (=kill or
help kill) if it were U.S. policy to do so, and those which they
would not fight. Now, why does that sound silly? Because Muslims
would feel discriminated against in an age when it is certain of
their coreligionists who are at the forefront of attacks against
U.S. troops.
Nick| 11.6.09 @ 6:51PM
Mr. Gruen,
Excellent post, sir!
I love it when true history is exposed to the masses.
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czarface| 11.6.09 @ 11:52AM
Psychiatrists in the military aren't near any combat. The major
was on a jihad. The soldiers were killed because of political
correctness as he had made his jihad sympathies well known.
SoCon| 11.6.09 @ 7:55PM
That's what I thought. Since when do Psychiatrists fight and kill
in wars? What a bunch of baloney.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 11:53AM
I was angry last night when I heard the news and posted a rather
tasteless comment. I apologize.
Nevertheless, The Texas Rangers will never be infiltrated...and
they do get the job done!
I am still angry! I want these perps in a cage for a long long
long long long time before they get their virgins.
S.L. Toddard| 11.6.09 @ 12:02PM
As I noted to my close friend Ken, the great Dr. Fleming has the
most honest and logically impregnable take on the situation:
"There is little to say about the shootings at Ft. Hood that has
not already been said a thousand times in half-sentence
bursts—expletives undeleted—on every newspaper site in the United
States, but there are one or two questions to ask or ask again.
Here in Ft. Worth, when I read the news yesterday afternoon, I
assumed immediately it was a Muslim, and, no, I did not feel
ashamed of my snap judgment. Ethnic stereotypes, as Steve
Goldberg pointed out years ago in Chronicles, represent
statistical reality. Disregard them at your peril. Not all
stereotypes are negative. The quality in Jews that Christians
criticize as “pushy,” Goldberg argued, is valued by Jews as
“enterprising.” In the case of pious Muslims like Dr. Hasan,
killing one’s self and others for the faith, is not terrorism but
an active of religious courage. Mass murder, for many Muslims
including Mohammed, is what martyrdom is for Christians. I was
roundly attacked for saying this after 911, but it is true.
Online, Hasan made the same argument, according to the story on
the AP. Comparing suicide bombers with kamikaze pilots, he
argued: ”To say that this soldier [a suicide bomber] committed
suicide is inappropriate . . . He is a brave hero that sacrificed
his life for a noble cause.”
By his own lights and according to his own religious
traditions—admittedly, traditions that are not universal in Islam
anymore than the celibacy of priests is universal in the Catholic
Church—Hasan is not mentally disturbed, only a man who has done
his religious duty.
The real criminals in this case are not this pathetic creature
who thinks killing his colleagues is an act of faith, but the US
military officials who continue to admit Muslims into the armed
forces, and if we really wish to point the figure at guilty
parties, we can point to Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, Dick Cheney,
and the Republican Party apparatchiks who keep on telling us that
Islam is a religion of peace. These people, it is absolutely
clear, have no more interest in protecting the security of the
American people than Barack Hussein Obama and Rahm Emanuel.
A second, admittedly minor, point of interest crops up in a story
in The Washington Post. Describing the killer’s parents as
Palestinian immigrants, the story goes on to say that “The Hasan
family was large and had deep roots in Roanoke Valley, said Amer
Azibidi, minister and imam of the KUFA Center of Islamic
Knowledge.” So in the world of The Washington Post, immigrants to
the US have “deep roots” wherever they choose to settle. Hassan’s
family had deep roots in Palestine, probably going back thousands
of years, until they were driven out by Israeli terrorist
violence. Admittedly, knowing what we know now about Muslims—but
should have known all along—we would not want them living next
door to us either, no matter how we acquired our land, by
purchase or violent occupation. Still, it is not unreasonable to
ask the state of Israel to begin paying reparations to the United
States for all the mischief it has caused. Obviously, that is not
going to happen, and even an Islamophile president cannot stand
up to the Israel lobby. He made that plain enough in appointing
one of that lobby’s agents as his chief of staff.
The spin on the story began with the first announcement that the
killer is a Muslim. CAIR came out with an entirely predictable
statement disclaiming any connection between Islam and terrorism.
But this is the same CAIR that has repeatedly defended Muslims
accused of terrorist activities in the US and attempted to
silence anyone who opposes the Jihadists.
Nothing productive will come out of this incident, because the
people who run the United States are committed to three suicidal
policies, any one of which we might survive, but not all free.
First, we have given a blank check to Israel, which has helped
focus the hatred of the Muslim world on the United States. There
has always been Islamic terrorism—how else did they eliminate so
many Jews and Christians from the Middle East, rational
persuasion? Second, we refuse to do anything about the Muslims
who are in the United States and continue to support Muslim
terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia. This is the same policy that
brought the Mujahidin and eventually the Taliban to power in
Afghanistan. Third, and worst of all, we can simultaneously
support the Jewish state and its Muslim enemies because we reject
our own history, religion, and identity.
Christian Zionists are no better in this regard than leftist
Muslim-loving multi-culturalists. The corruption of the American
mind begins the day a child enters kindergarten and it goes on
until he graduates and continues every day he picks up the
newspaper or turns on the television. We don’t have a country. If
we did, neither CAIR nor AIPAC would be allowed to operate."
Too bad you can't post your droppings under your real name, eh
Dennis?
Rather bold in your Anti-Semitism aren't you?
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 12:02PM
Agreed.
A major making sympathetic comments about terrorism should have
sent red flags up.
Then again, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that "political
correctness" is responsible for this horrific event.
The fact is that the military takes in hundreds of thousands of
people; almost all of them are decent, noble people. But some are
not.
We have shootings like this in our society now, and this shooting
is much like the others.
The crazy once went off somewhere and killed themselves.
Now, it seems, they've decided to take people with them.
We certainly need to do a better job identifying people who are
about to commit crimes like this.
Daisy| 11.6.09 @ 8:00PM
You Liberal Thought Police are responsible for this massacre, LR;
do you feel proud? Your political correctness is killing this
country, bastard.
A pox on ALL you liberals.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 12:06PM
Just a note:
We've reached a bad moment in our national discourse when it
needs saying, but congratulations to the right wing press and
media for not buying into the moronic claims made by profession
liar Jerome Corsi.
Victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:09PM
You poor leftist slobs couldn't shine, much less carry Jerome
Corsi's shoes.
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FightStatism| 11.6.09 @ 12:40PM
Congratulations LIBERALISM, in all it's forms - left and right.
Yes indeed, DIVERSITY is our weakness! What does Chrissy Matthews
have to say about this? Does Chrissy wear pantyhose under his
trousers? Does his leg still tingle when he sees his "Chocolate
Jesus"?
The core issue is this........ you can not fight a war when you
allow the enemy to immigrate and populate our country (and raise
mosques from Maine to Arizona) and you certainly can't fight a
war when you allow the enemy to serve in our Armed Forces! Duh!
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 1:32PM
Do you think that hen Hasan wakes up he's going to be shocked to
find surgeons instead of virgins?
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:22AM
He's paralyzed so he will be very disturbed by the fact that he
won't be able to take his own life to meet "Allah" because he
can't move.
Pity, isn't it?
Kelly| 11.6.09 @ 1:56PM
Two points:
1. First, al Qaeda and the Taliban seem to have NO compunction
about "killing fellow Muslims," and
2. I had no idea that psychiatrists run combat missions. And here
I thought they practiced in their field of medicine, like other
doctors in the armed forces.
brother| 11.7.09 @ 8:31AM
It is true that extremists groups such as al Qaeda and the
Taliban have and will continue to kill fellow Muslims. If your
point is that this is acceptable for Muslims, that would be
incorrect. In reality, while al Qaeda has promoted the doctrine
of "takfir" - which basically justifies their killing of fellow
Muslims by first denouncing them as non-Muslims, al Qaeda has
convinced few other Muslims that this is a correct teaching.
Steve Smith| 11.6.09 @ 2:05PM
"This is not an matter of Muslims in the military"
Yes it is, don't be a dumbass and ignore the obvious, Muslims are
not our "friends", if you don't understand that you don't
understand Islam. The only reason they're our "allies" is they
have oil, the only reason we're their ally is because we give
their dictators military protection.
Our allegiance is entirely business.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:22PM
"At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law
enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide
bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide
bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the
lives of their comrades."
This interesting because six months ago the big news was that DHS
threat assessment which was warning about the threats from
rednecks, Bible thumpers and Conservatives.
brucet| 11.6.09 @ 2:23PM
Mass moooooslim immigration is the issue here and political
correctness is preventing us from dealing with it.
All Mohammedans should be run out of our country, period.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:28PM
Good grief.
brucet| 11.6.09 @ 2:51PM
Apparently Tim, you still believe in canard of "good moooslims"
and "bad moooslims". Wake up, son.
The more you study Islam, the more you will learn it is
incompatible with Western values, laws, customs, etc.
We never saw this type of jihadi behavior prior to the last
several years, when Mohammedan immigration has gone way up.
As I always say.....its simple. More moooslim immigrants = more
terrorism, more beheadings, more "honor killings" of daughters by
fathers.
Tim says - "immigration is wonderful! Why we're all immigrants,
we're a nation of immigrants".
Good grief indeed Tim. How naive can you be?
todd| 11.7.09 @ 1:37AM
Bastard
JoeB| 11.6.09 @ 2:30PM
We have a Muslim in the White House.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:35PM
Good grief.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:32PM
Check qoranic law, if the father is a muslim, the son is a
muslim, and his children are muslims.
And if a muslim leaves islam and converts to Christianity, the
sentence is death carried out by any muslim or group of muslims.
arnold| 11.6.09 @ 9:07PM
and may we add: a good [peace loving] Muslim is a bad Muslim to
all the [qur-ran knowlegable] faithful because they will not
participate in Jihad
as Mohammed commanded in his later "suras."
TakeFive| 11.6.09 @ 2:34PM
Any more on this guy's background? Was he born here? Earlier
comment mentions parents were Palestinian immigrants.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:36PM
he was born in Virginia and joined the Army after High School and
the miltary paid for all of his education.
So, therefore, he is a Lifer.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 2:53PM
Please folks .....scroll down and watch the video .
...and sleep well tonight?
The raghead in question was apparently born in Virginia to
Palestinian parents from Jersusalem. However, as someone
knowledgeable about Islam and muslims, I caution you, muslim
immigrants will often lie about their place of birth.
I read that he was born in Jerusalem but came here as an infant
with his parents.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:37PM
If he was born here, then he is an American and therefore needs
to be tried for Treason.
martin j smith| 11.6.09 @ 3:15PM
There are those--mostly in Left leaning circles--that adhere to
the principles of political correcness. This means asumming an
act or "terrorism is not an act of terrorism" by Muslims by any
means necessary. The same kind of act done by some other group.
Why the label is out these withiin a New York Second. Todays
front page of the NYT is a good example of basically covering for
Obama and denying the incident having any suggestion of
terrorism. But in addition left leaning circles the FBI also has
tendency to deny terrorism such as the 7/4 LAX shooting. This was
during the Bush years by the way. The American people sadly must
be skeptical of their media and their government reports about
matters having to do with their own safety and well being. This
is a sad state of affairs indeed. But, when it is quite clear
that the MSM and Government are one and same there is no choice.
nessus| 11.6.09 @ 3:19PM
Immediately after 9/11, Bush had the opportunity to stop or at
least restrict muslim immigration. He didn't.
Thus, since 9/11, muslim immigration has actually gone up. Ironic
huh? Shameful, I say.
Of course all immigration has gone up and up for years now.
Immigration is the issue. Assimilation. Suitability of
prospective immigrants. Political correctness prevents us from
discussing these issues.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:05PM
No, it's not ironic.
Muslim immigrants to this country assimilate quite well.
You cannot extrapolate a general claim about Muslims from this
one event.
Are all white people to blame for the shootings at Columbine?
Every two or three months now -- for really a decade or so --
we've had one of these ghastly mass shootings. They're always
grim; they're always depressing.
When it happens on a military base it's particularly awful, since
these people have braved a war zone, or will brave a war zone,
abroad and deserve peace at home.
Crazy people now shoot strangers for themselves. I don't know
why. It's sick. It's inexplicable behavior.
But if you blame Islam, you're just another fool who doesn't know
what he's talking about.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:18AM
"But if you blame Islam, you're just another fool who doesn't
know what he's talking about."
Excuse me? He yelled "Allah Akbar!" while shooting. Who's being a
fool?
brother| 11.7.09 @ 8:36AM
So, do we blame Christianity if some nut who claims to be a
Christian kills a doctor who performs abortion? No we have not
done that. To blame a religion for what a person does is the
worst type of narrowminded prejudice. But I suppose it is easier
than grapling with actual reality.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:00PM
Oh please. The very doctrine of Muslims is to kill the infidels.
Read the Koran.
Christianity doesn't have such a doctrine.
Talk about actual reality. Wake up.
Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:08PM
My posts were removed. Mine were pro-Military pro-American
posts.
Yet Toddard's anti-Israel, ant-American despicable lying posts
remain. He is even permitted to post links to anti-Israel
websites.
Quite telling.
Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:13PM
Oops. Applogies.. wrong blog! My posts were not removed... :^)
Kelly| 11.6.09 @ 8:01PM
Idiot.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 10:18PM
Before you say "idiot", Moron, you should know that posts have
been removed and expletive laden posts by toddy and LibReader are
allowed to remain.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:01PM
Victor --
That's because my posts are witty, articulate and insightful, in
addition to being intended for an adult audience.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:05AM
Yes, I know. I knew some low life would find fault with my
mistake. Of course you've never made any mistakes in your life,
I'm sure.
Legion Troll.
Quartermaster| 11.6.09 @ 6:31PM
Islam is the problem. Even Klein is having PC problems, alas.
Gina| 11.6.09 @ 8:03PM
QM, Klein is squishy; he always has PC problems.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:08PM
No, he's probably just not a stupid bigot, like you. When you
were a child, you didn't hate Muslims, I bet. What happened?
Why were you wiser when you were a child than you are now? How
does a person grow more foolish as she gets older?
Richard Baker| 11.6.09 @ 7:39PM
Maybe someone will leave a pistol with one round so he can seek
enlightenment with Allah.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 10:58PM
Many of the comments on this thread are plain racist.
I know not all conservatives are racists; but most that dwell on
these fringes are looking for any reason to express their
xenophobic or racist bigotry.
You people are SLOBS.
There are thousands of Muslims in the military; Muslims have died
fighting for this country; there are millions of Americans who
are Muslims -- and they're every bit as American as you. Actually
more so.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 1:15AM
Marxist Reader,
"You people?" Who are you calling "you people?"
"YOU PEOPLE" is a univerally accepted racist statement. I would
expect a bleeding heart liberal, like yourself, to know this.
"There are thousands of Muslims in the military[...]"
Liberals know this because they watched M.A.S.H. religiously and
remember Corporal Klinger!
Justice| 11.7.09 @ 2:41AM
My condolences to the family of the victims. Sad how this blog
comments have turn out to be a "muslim battering avenue". Check
out JPP's comment using the word "raghead". Anger takes over the
incident and we feel empowered to get racial now? You are a
redneck just like the dumb idiot that went on a shooting rampage.
NO DIFFERENT!
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:42PM
Justice?
As in Buford T. Justice?
You sound just as stupid as him. Too bad you're not as funny.
Campy| 11.7.09 @ 12:14AM
LR...
A Muslim, more so American?? Are you kidding me? You are a piece
of work.
Frankly, am glad Hasan survived; a quick death would be too easy
and would martyr him, the guy with a bumper sticker that read:
"Allah is Love."
Don't tell me I'm racist or prejudice; he was under
investigation, period. But due to the current PC climate
regarding Muslims, he got the benefit of doubt, rather than the
serious scrutiny ANY another man would have deserved. THAT needs
to change.
Liberal Reader| 11.7.09 @ 12:52AM
Campy --
Yes, they are -- on the whole -- MORE American than your dreary
little group of bigots.
I take bigotry -- like judging ALL Muslims by this one man's
action -- as un-American, pathetic, lazy, weak, and stupid.
Listen: I don't know your soul. I can say that many of the posts
here are utterly racist and xenophobic and paranoid and morally
obtuse. And no, I'm not afraid to say it, and no I don't care if
every person reading this is outraged. It's the truth, and you
need to hear it.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:12AM
Only Liberal Reader the sanctimonious liar is allowed to insult,
demean, curse at and degrade others.
Typical Liberal hypocrisy and double standard.
Liberal Reader| 11.7.09 @ 12:56AM
There are currently thousands of Muslims doing something most of
you are not doing: serving their country in the military.
Muslim agents risk their lives infiltrating terrorist
organizations to defend their fellow Americans against attacks.
Muslims translate enemy communications for intelligence agencies;
they are invaluable in our fight against terrorism.
Some of you might be in the military too. But to those of you who
are not: what the hell have YOU done to help fight terrorism?
These people deserve respect, just like anyone else doing this
dangerous work.
Again, if you don't like it, tough. It's the truth.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 1:26AM
Marxist Reader,
What the HELL have you done to help fight terrorism?
Besides show the terrorists your complete lack of knowledge of
history and science.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:15AM
Liberal Reader tells us we should respect the Muslims while
he/she berates her fellow posters.
What a disgrace!
Campy| 11.7.09 @ 1:46AM
Lib,
So glad to know the next time I charge-in shouting, "For MLK!" or
"Save the Crackers!" that you're the definitive authority
watching my back, proclaiming that I'm not racist or a terrorist.
A difference between PC you and me, is that you defend a group
'because.' I pay attention to individuals and give respect where
it's earned, due, and deserved.
Focker out.
Conservative Reader| 11.7.09 @ 2:37AM
I don't know what Liberal Reader has done to fight terrorists,
but from his posts here I would guess that, were he to make the
effort, he could certainly bloviate many of them to death.
Montana| 11.7.09 @ 1:57PM
My heart and prayers go out to all the victims family and
friends.
From all the news reports it appears this Major is a career
military man and that in his current position for less than a
year and was not going well. He did not want to be deployed and
in fact wanted out of the Army, so he paid back his military
student loans and hired an attorney.
The reason may have been that he was being harassed and called
names like “camel jockey ”. I guess all that sensitivity training
for those with bigotry tendencies are all for not. (Can training
real change the way you were brought up?)
Another reason is called PTSD by proxy, the stress of treating
PTSD in other soldiers make you go a little crazy yourself. Its
even more stressful because most of the higher ranks don’t even
believe in such thing as PTSD. Their denial prompts them to tell
suffering soldiers to “drink it off.” Some civilians in the
defense dept feel the same way no doubt IMO, it’s why hardly
anything is mentioned of PTSD until one of these violent episodes
occurs. These people see PTSD as a cop-out or an excuse. First we
need to have an understanding that PTSD actually is real before
we can ever hope to help treat it (does anyone believe that being
shot at or killing your fellow man is not going to affect you in
some way either then or in the future?). I guess with the high
soldier suicide rate before and after deployment kinda takes care
of the complaints from coming in (so those who said he should
have just killed himself, well that’s already happening ). What
real pissed me off when I heard that the military was trying to
say that some soldiers coming back from this war with PTSD or
other psychological disorders had “Pre-Existing Conditions” and
that the military would not pay to treat them, I think it has
been corrected but what a bunch of asses they break you and don’t
want to pay.
The final issue is why does the military want to keep people in
their ranks that no longer want to be there is it just sheer
number? I mean is it ten percent, twenty percent. Is it that it
is the only contract in the US that you can’t get out of unless
to kill yourself or kill your fellow soldiers? It does not make
any sense to me.
I guess the Major could just be another wacko like Timothy
McVeigh and Terry Nicholas, of course McVeigh was executed and
apparently because Nicholas became a Christian he received a life
sentenced. I real think if he gets that far the Major will get
the former and not in a million years the latter.
This is so messed up, hopefully they will make some changes that
make sense.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:48PM
Hurry, we need a heart surgeon, stat!
We seem to have a bleeding heart liberal on our hands and it is
effecting his/her brain function.
michelle| 11.7.09 @ 3:11PM
History teachs us that no one relegion is the right one. From the
jews, to christans, muslims, each of these relegions has ascended
for the the bible. In reality all taking the own version of what
they like and what applies to how they live their live
accordingly. The jews state that there gods choseen people, at
this point in time I think native americans and budhist have it
right take care of the planet and what we have right now, because
if we don't there isn't going to be a planet left to worry about.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:53PM
Doctor quick, we have another bleeding heart!
You speak with forked tongue. If the Injun's had it so right, why
don't you sell your computer and go live in the woods this
winter?
Richard Baker| 11.8.09 @ 10:16AM
At the least, I'd closely interrogate the "Moslems" who are in
the military as we speak. Since rogue Baptists, Catholics,
Buddhists, and Lutherans, among many religions, aren't the ones
doing the killing, investigations into the "Moslems" would be a
prudent step. How many incidents have to occur over the years by
these "folks" before we cast an eye their way? That Army
Intelligence, CID, and others in the various levels of Army
leadership knew of this guys activities and did nothing says that
they are NOT doing their jobs. Can them and get folks in their
who will do their jobs. Shameful dereliction of duty.
Montana| 11.12.09 @ 12:08AM
I guess the US military will carry out detail questioning as to
why he did it and will prove all of us wrong.
After that happens, I know some will still believe there point
still has some merit.
Earlier this year Sgt. John Russell, 44 (Catholic), of Sherman,
Texas, is in custody at Camp Liberty in Baghdad where he
apparently opened fire at a combat stress clinic Monday, killing
five U.S. soldiers.
norris hall| 11.15.09 @ 12:48AM
Nidal malik Hasans deadly rampage is a wakeup call for all
Americans
Look around you today. What do you see? Religious people all over
the world warring against each other: Muslims against Jews,
Hindus against Muslims, Shiites against Sunnis, Protestants
against Catholics.
Most of the world's ills can be traced to the hatred of one
religious group against another.
How many times have you heard devout Christians say that when it
comes to loyalty between their country and their God...they'll
choose their God every time.
It's not just Islamists that we need to be wary of. It's anyone
who believes that God speaks to them, that they are the only true
representatives of God on earth, and that God comes before
country.
They are ticking time bombs.
Sound like anyone you know?
It's time for religious fanatics of all faiths to "love this
country or leave it".
norris hall| 11.15.09 @ 12:48AM
Nidal malik Hasans deadly rampage is a wakeup call for all
Americans
Look around you today. What do you see? Religious people all over
the world warring against each other: Muslims against Jews,
Hindus against Muslims, Shiites against Sunnis, Protestants
against Catholics.
Most of the world's ills can be traced to the hatred of one
religious group against another.
How many times have you heard devout Christians say that when it
comes to loyalty between their country and their God...they'll
choose their God every time.
It's not just Islamists that we need to be wary of. It's anyone
who believes that God speaks to them, that they are the only true
representatives of God on earth, and that God comes before
country.
They are ticking time bombs.
Sound like anyone you know?
It's time for religious fanatics of all faiths to "love this
country or leave it".
Anne Themmick| 11.6.09 @ 11:23AM
Why do i think of Abu Nidal when I see this man's name?
Ted Gruen| 11.6.09 @ 2:12PM
Once again there are those who will always find a way to offhandedly blame it on the Jews. S.L.Toddard, regurgitating standard Arab myths, presupposes that Hasan's immediate family had "deep roots" in Palestine going back thousands of years (therefore not possibly in Roanoke, VA) "until they were driven out by Israeli terrorist violence".
Writing in the 1890's while Zionist settlement of Ottoman-controlled lands later called Israel, the PA, and Jordan was still barely a trickle, Mark Twain reported after his travels there that the area was miserably poor & sparsely populated by anyone, Muslims included. When they feel like it, all kinds of people among Palestinians will drop the real facts about their ancestors: they came there mostly only in the last century and a half, not least because of the burgeoning economic transformation wrought there by the Jewish settlement movement. Among other relatively recent newcomers: descendants of various Egyptian camp follower types who came in mobs with various Egypt-based Ottoman punitive expeditions in the 18th century against the local inhabitants of such non-Israeli towns as Gaza, Jenin and Nablus. (Ask people from Ramallah and you'll get a "yes" in private, but a ferocious "no" in public with other Arabs.) So spare me the myth that the recently-named Palestinians are the Canaanites of old who contended with those pesky Israelites.
As for Toddard's advice that Muslims in the United States armed services not be pressed into fighting their coreligionists, I know of at least one instance where this same policy was discreetly applied to Jews. During the brief Suez War in 1956 when Eisenhower threatened military action against the British, French and Israeli invaders of Egypt, every Jew in the United States 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean, down to the lowest cook & bottlewasher, was called in one at a time and asked if he would willingly fire on Israeli troops -- those who said "no" were quietly transferred to onshore duty in Naples and the fleet steamed eastward, hot & ready for fighting action that never was implemented. The Navy could afford this maneuver because so few people were involved and because there was no instablogging in those days, only the same establishment media who did as they were told.
Now that we have an all-volunteer army, though, such a policy as regards Muslims (Christians don't need it; they have always been willing to kill the right Christians for the right reasons) is no more accessible than the lately-trashed "don't ask - don't tell" policy.
But only once someone has been sworn in. Why not have a vetting process for all applicants for service in the military? The same test would be given to all comers, irrespective of religion but specific about which religionists they would help fight (=kill or help kill) if it were U.S. policy to do so, and those which they would not fight. Now, why does that sound silly? Because Muslims would feel discriminated against in an age when it is certain of their coreligionists who are at the forefront of attacks against U.S. troops.
Nick| 11.6.09 @ 6:51PM
Mr. Gruen,
Excellent post, sir!
I love it when true history is exposed to the masses.
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czarface| 11.6.09 @ 11:52AM
Psychiatrists in the military aren't near any combat. The major was on a jihad. The soldiers were killed because of political correctness as he had made his jihad sympathies well known.
SoCon| 11.6.09 @ 7:55PM
That's what I thought. Since when do Psychiatrists fight and kill in wars? What a bunch of baloney.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 11:53AM
I was angry last night when I heard the news and posted a rather tasteless comment. I apologize.
Nevertheless, The Texas Rangers will never be infiltrated...and they do get the job done!
I am still angry! I want these perps in a cage for a long long long long long time before they get their virgins.
S.L. Toddard| 11.6.09 @ 12:02PM
As I noted to my close friend Ken, the great Dr. Fleming has the most honest and logically impregnable take on the situation:
"There is little to say about the shootings at Ft. Hood that has not already been said a thousand times in half-sentence bursts—expletives undeleted—on every newspaper site in the United States, but there are one or two questions to ask or ask again.
Here in Ft. Worth, when I read the news yesterday afternoon, I assumed immediately it was a Muslim, and, no, I did not feel ashamed of my snap judgment. Ethnic stereotypes, as Steve Goldberg pointed out years ago in Chronicles, represent statistical reality. Disregard them at your peril. Not all stereotypes are negative. The quality in Jews that Christians criticize as “pushy,” Goldberg argued, is valued by Jews as “enterprising.” In the case of pious Muslims like Dr. Hasan, killing one’s self and others for the faith, is not terrorism but an active of religious courage. Mass murder, for many Muslims including Mohammed, is what martyrdom is for Christians. I was roundly attacked for saying this after 911, but it is true. Online, Hasan made the same argument, according to the story on the AP. Comparing suicide bombers with kamikaze pilots, he argued: ”To say that this soldier [a suicide bomber] committed suicide is inappropriate . . . He is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a noble cause.”
By his own lights and according to his own religious traditions—admittedly, traditions that are not universal in Islam anymore than the celibacy of priests is universal in the Catholic Church—Hasan is not mentally disturbed, only a man who has done his religious duty.
The real criminals in this case are not this pathetic creature who thinks killing his colleagues is an act of faith, but the US military officials who continue to admit Muslims into the armed forces, and if we really wish to point the figure at guilty parties, we can point to Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the Republican Party apparatchiks who keep on telling us that Islam is a religion of peace. These people, it is absolutely clear, have no more interest in protecting the security of the American people than Barack Hussein Obama and Rahm Emanuel.
A second, admittedly minor, point of interest crops up in a story in The Washington Post. Describing the killer’s parents as Palestinian immigrants, the story goes on to say that “The Hasan family was large and had deep roots in Roanoke Valley, said Amer Azibidi, minister and imam of the KUFA Center of Islamic Knowledge.” So in the world of The Washington Post, immigrants to the US have “deep roots” wherever they choose to settle. Hassan’s family had deep roots in Palestine, probably going back thousands of years, until they were driven out by Israeli terrorist violence. Admittedly, knowing what we know now about Muslims—but should have known all along—we would not want them living next door to us either, no matter how we acquired our land, by purchase or violent occupation. Still, it is not unreasonable to ask the state of Israel to begin paying reparations to the United States for all the mischief it has caused. Obviously, that is not going to happen, and even an Islamophile president cannot stand up to the Israel lobby. He made that plain enough in appointing one of that lobby’s agents as his chief of staff.
The spin on the story began with the first announcement that the killer is a Muslim. CAIR came out with an entirely predictable statement disclaiming any connection between Islam and terrorism. But this is the same CAIR that has repeatedly defended Muslims accused of terrorist activities in the US and attempted to silence anyone who opposes the Jihadists.
Nothing productive will come out of this incident, because the people who run the United States are committed to three suicidal policies, any one of which we might survive, but not all free. First, we have given a blank check to Israel, which has helped focus the hatred of the Muslim world on the United States. There has always been Islamic terrorism—how else did they eliminate so many Jews and Christians from the Middle East, rational persuasion? Second, we refuse to do anything about the Muslims who are in the United States and continue to support Muslim terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia. This is the same policy that brought the Mujahidin and eventually the Taliban to power in Afghanistan. Third, and worst of all, we can simultaneously support the Jewish state and its Muslim enemies because we reject our own history, religion, and identity.
Christian Zionists are no better in this regard than leftist Muslim-loving multi-culturalists. The corruption of the American mind begins the day a child enters kindergarten and it goes on until he graduates and continues every day he picks up the newspaper or turns on the television. We don’t have a country. If we did, neither CAIR nor AIPAC would be allowed to operate."
http://www.chroniclesmagazine......ver-learn/
Victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:10PM
Too bad you can't post your droppings under your real name, eh Dennis?
Rather bold in your Anti-Semitism aren't you?
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 12:02PM
Agreed.
A major making sympathetic comments about terrorism should have sent red flags up.
Then again, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that "political correctness" is responsible for this horrific event.
The fact is that the military takes in hundreds of thousands of people; almost all of them are decent, noble people. But some are not.
We have shootings like this in our society now, and this shooting is much like the others.
The crazy once went off somewhere and killed themselves.
Now, it seems, they've decided to take people with them.
We certainly need to do a better job identifying people who are about to commit crimes like this.
Daisy| 11.6.09 @ 8:00PM
You Liberal Thought Police are responsible for this massacre, LR; do you feel proud? Your political correctness is killing this country, bastard.
A pox on ALL you liberals.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 12:06PM
Just a note:
We've reached a bad moment in our national discourse when it needs saying, but congratulations to the right wing press and media for not buying into the moronic claims made by profession liar Jerome Corsi.
Victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:09PM
You poor leftist slobs couldn't shine, much less carry Jerome Corsi's shoes.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:23AM
Actually, aren't you the paid liar, LibRead?
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FightStatism| 11.6.09 @ 12:40PM
Congratulations LIBERALISM, in all it's forms - left and right. Yes indeed, DIVERSITY is our weakness! What does Chrissy Matthews have to say about this? Does Chrissy wear pantyhose under his trousers? Does his leg still tingle when he sees his "Chocolate Jesus"?
The core issue is this........ you can not fight a war when you allow the enemy to immigrate and populate our country (and raise mosques from Maine to Arizona) and you certainly can't fight a war when you allow the enemy to serve in our Armed Forces! Duh!
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 1:32PM
Do you think that hen Hasan wakes up he's going to be shocked to find surgeons instead of virgins?
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:22AM
He's paralyzed so he will be very disturbed by the fact that he won't be able to take his own life to meet "Allah" because he can't move.
Pity, isn't it?
Kelly| 11.6.09 @ 1:56PM
Two points:
1. First, al Qaeda and the Taliban seem to have NO compunction about "killing fellow Muslims," and
2. I had no idea that psychiatrists run combat missions. And here I thought they practiced in their field of medicine, like other doctors in the armed forces.
brother| 11.7.09 @ 8:31AM
It is true that extremists groups such as al Qaeda and the Taliban have and will continue to kill fellow Muslims. If your point is that this is acceptable for Muslims, that would be incorrect. In reality, while al Qaeda has promoted the doctrine of "takfir" - which basically justifies their killing of fellow Muslims by first denouncing them as non-Muslims, al Qaeda has convinced few other Muslims that this is a correct teaching.
Steve Smith| 11.6.09 @ 2:05PM
"This is not an matter of Muslims in the military"
Yes it is, don't be a dumbass and ignore the obvious, Muslims are not our "friends", if you don't understand that you don't understand Islam. The only reason they're our "allies" is they have oil, the only reason we're their ally is because we give their dictators military protection.
Our allegiance is entirely business.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:22PM
"At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades."
This interesting because six months ago the big news was that DHS threat assessment which was warning about the threats from rednecks, Bible thumpers and Conservatives.
brucet| 11.6.09 @ 2:23PM
Mass moooooslim immigration is the issue here and political correctness is preventing us from dealing with it.
All Mohammedans should be run out of our country, period.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:28PM
Good grief.
brucet| 11.6.09 @ 2:51PM
Apparently Tim, you still believe in canard of "good moooslims" and "bad moooslims". Wake up, son.
The more you study Islam, the more you will learn it is incompatible with Western values, laws, customs, etc.
We never saw this type of jihadi behavior prior to the last several years, when Mohammedan immigration has gone way up.
As I always say.....its simple. More moooslim immigrants = more terrorism, more beheadings, more "honor killings" of daughters by fathers.
Tim says - "immigration is wonderful! Why we're all immigrants, we're a nation of immigrants".
Good grief indeed Tim. How naive can you be?
todd| 11.7.09 @ 1:37AM
Bastard
JoeB| 11.6.09 @ 2:30PM
We have a Muslim in the White House.
Tim| 11.6.09 @ 2:35PM
Good grief.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:32PM
Check qoranic law, if the father is a muslim, the son is a muslim, and his children are muslims.
And if a muslim leaves islam and converts to Christianity, the sentence is death carried out by any muslim or group of muslims.
arnold| 11.6.09 @ 9:07PM
and may we add: a good [peace loving] Muslim is a bad Muslim to all the [qur-ran knowlegable] faithful because they will not participate in Jihad
as Mohammed commanded in his later "suras."
TakeFive| 11.6.09 @ 2:34PM
Any more on this guy's background? Was he born here? Earlier comment mentions parents were Palestinian immigrants.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:36PM
he was born in Virginia and joined the Army after High School and the miltary paid for all of his education.
So, therefore, he is a Lifer.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 2:53PM
Please folks .....scroll down and watch the video .
...and sleep well tonight?
http://www.americanthinker.com....._beli.html
JPP| 11.6.09 @ 2:53PM
The raghead in question was apparently born in Virginia to Palestinian parents from Jersusalem. However, as someone knowledgeable about Islam and muslims, I caution you, muslim immigrants will often lie about their place of birth.
I read that he was born in Jerusalem but came here as an infant with his parents.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 5:37PM
If he was born here, then he is an American and therefore needs to be tried for Treason.
martin j smith| 11.6.09 @ 3:15PM
There are those--mostly in Left leaning circles--that adhere to the principles of political correcness. This means asumming an act or "terrorism is not an act of terrorism" by Muslims by any means necessary. The same kind of act done by some other group. Why the label is out these withiin a New York Second. Todays front page of the NYT is a good example of basically covering for Obama and denying the incident having any suggestion of terrorism. But in addition left leaning circles the FBI also has tendency to deny terrorism such as the 7/4 LAX shooting. This was during the Bush years by the way. The American people sadly must be skeptical of their media and their government reports about matters having to do with their own safety and well being. This is a sad state of affairs indeed. But, when it is quite clear that the MSM and Government are one and same there is no choice.
nessus| 11.6.09 @ 3:19PM
Immediately after 9/11, Bush had the opportunity to stop or at least restrict muslim immigration. He didn't.
Thus, since 9/11, muslim immigration has actually gone up. Ironic huh? Shameful, I say.
Of course all immigration has gone up and up for years now. Immigration is the issue. Assimilation. Suitability of prospective immigrants. Political correctness prevents us from discussing these issues.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:05PM
No, it's not ironic.
Muslim immigrants to this country assimilate quite well.
You cannot extrapolate a general claim about Muslims from this one event.
Are all white people to blame for the shootings at Columbine?
Every two or three months now -- for really a decade or so -- we've had one of these ghastly mass shootings. They're always grim; they're always depressing.
When it happens on a military base it's particularly awful, since these people have braved a war zone, or will brave a war zone, abroad and deserve peace at home.
Crazy people now shoot strangers for themselves. I don't know why. It's sick. It's inexplicable behavior.
But if you blame Islam, you're just another fool who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:18AM
"But if you blame Islam, you're just another fool who doesn't know what he's talking about."
Excuse me? He yelled "Allah Akbar!" while shooting. Who's being a fool?
brother| 11.7.09 @ 8:36AM
So, do we blame Christianity if some nut who claims to be a Christian kills a doctor who performs abortion? No we have not done that. To blame a religion for what a person does is the worst type of narrowminded prejudice. But I suppose it is easier than grapling with actual reality.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:00PM
Oh please. The very doctrine of Muslims is to kill the infidels. Read the Koran.
Christianity doesn't have such a doctrine.
Talk about actual reality. Wake up.
Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:08PM
My posts were removed. Mine were pro-Military pro-American posts.
Yet Toddard's anti-Israel, ant-American despicable lying posts remain. He is even permitted to post links to anti-Israel websites.
Quite telling.
Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:13PM
Oops. Applogies.. wrong blog! My posts were not removed... :^)
Kelly| 11.6.09 @ 8:01PM
Idiot.
victor| 11.6.09 @ 10:18PM
Before you say "idiot", Moron, you should know that posts have been removed and expletive laden posts by toddy and LibReader are allowed to remain.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:01PM
Victor --
That's because my posts are witty, articulate and insightful, in addition to being intended for an adult audience.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:05AM
Yes, I know. I knew some low life would find fault with my mistake. Of course you've never made any mistakes in your life, I'm sure.
Legion Troll.
Quartermaster| 11.6.09 @ 6:31PM
Islam is the problem. Even Klein is having PC problems, alas.
Gina| 11.6.09 @ 8:03PM
QM, Klein is squishy; he always has PC problems.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 11:08PM
No, he's probably just not a stupid bigot, like you. When you were a child, you didn't hate Muslims, I bet. What happened?
Why were you wiser when you were a child than you are now? How does a person grow more foolish as she gets older?
Richard Baker| 11.6.09 @ 7:39PM
Maybe someone will leave a pistol with one round so he can seek enlightenment with Allah.
Liberal Reader| 11.6.09 @ 10:58PM
Many of the comments on this thread are plain racist.
I know not all conservatives are racists; but most that dwell on these fringes are looking for any reason to express their xenophobic or racist bigotry.
You people are SLOBS.
There are thousands of Muslims in the military; Muslims have died fighting for this country; there are millions of Americans who are Muslims -- and they're every bit as American as you. Actually more so.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 1:15AM
Marxist Reader,
"You people?" Who are you calling "you people?"
"YOU PEOPLE" is a univerally accepted racist statement. I would expect a bleeding heart liberal, like yourself, to know this.
"There are thousands of Muslims in the military[...]"
Liberals know this because they watched M.A.S.H. religiously and remember Corporal Klinger!
Justice| 11.7.09 @ 2:41AM
My condolences to the family of the victims. Sad how this blog comments have turn out to be a "muslim battering avenue". Check out JPP's comment using the word "raghead". Anger takes over the incident and we feel empowered to get racial now? You are a redneck just like the dumb idiot that went on a shooting rampage. NO DIFFERENT!
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:42PM
Justice?
As in Buford T. Justice?
You sound just as stupid as him. Too bad you're not as funny.
Campy| 11.7.09 @ 12:14AM
LR...
A Muslim, more so American?? Are you kidding me? You are a piece of work.
Frankly, am glad Hasan survived; a quick death would be too easy and would martyr him, the guy with a bumper sticker that read: "Allah is Love."
Don't tell me I'm racist or prejudice; he was under investigation, period. But due to the current PC climate regarding Muslims, he got the benefit of doubt, rather than the serious scrutiny ANY another man would have deserved. THAT needs to change.
Liberal Reader| 11.7.09 @ 12:52AM
Campy --
Yes, they are -- on the whole -- MORE American than your dreary little group of bigots.
I take bigotry -- like judging ALL Muslims by this one man's action -- as un-American, pathetic, lazy, weak, and stupid.
Listen: I don't know your soul. I can say that many of the posts here are utterly racist and xenophobic and paranoid and morally obtuse. And no, I'm not afraid to say it, and no I don't care if every person reading this is outraged. It's the truth, and you need to hear it.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:12AM
Only Liberal Reader the sanctimonious liar is allowed to insult, demean, curse at and degrade others.
Typical Liberal hypocrisy and double standard.
Liberal Reader| 11.7.09 @ 12:56AM
There are currently thousands of Muslims doing something most of you are not doing: serving their country in the military.
Muslim agents risk their lives infiltrating terrorist organizations to defend their fellow Americans against attacks.
Muslims translate enemy communications for intelligence agencies; they are invaluable in our fight against terrorism.
Some of you might be in the military too. But to those of you who are not: what the hell have YOU done to help fight terrorism?
These people deserve respect, just like anyone else doing this dangerous work.
Again, if you don't like it, tough. It's the truth.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 1:26AM
Marxist Reader,
What the HELL have you done to help fight terrorism?
Besides show the terrorists your complete lack of knowledge of history and science.
Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:15AM
Liberal Reader tells us we should respect the Muslims while he/she berates her fellow posters.
What a disgrace!
Campy| 11.7.09 @ 1:46AM
Lib,
So glad to know the next time I charge-in shouting, "For MLK!" or "Save the Crackers!" that you're the definitive authority watching my back, proclaiming that I'm not racist or a terrorist.
A difference between PC you and me, is that you defend a group 'because.' I pay attention to individuals and give respect where it's earned, due, and deserved.
Focker out.
Conservative Reader| 11.7.09 @ 2:37AM
I don't know what Liberal Reader has done to fight terrorists, but from his posts here I would guess that, were he to make the effort, he could certainly bloviate many of them to death.
Montana| 11.7.09 @ 1:57PM
My heart and prayers go out to all the victims family and friends.
From all the news reports it appears this Major is a career military man and that in his current position for less than a year and was not going well. He did not want to be deployed and in fact wanted out of the Army, so he paid back his military student loans and hired an attorney.
The reason may have been that he was being harassed and called names like “camel jockey ”. I guess all that sensitivity training for those with bigotry tendencies are all for not. (Can training real change the way you were brought up?)
Another reason is called PTSD by proxy, the stress of treating PTSD in other soldiers make you go a little crazy yourself. Its even more stressful because most of the higher ranks don’t even believe in such thing as PTSD. Their denial prompts them to tell suffering soldiers to “drink it off.” Some civilians in the defense dept feel the same way no doubt IMO, it’s why hardly anything is mentioned of PTSD until one of these violent episodes occurs. These people see PTSD as a cop-out or an excuse. First we need to have an understanding that PTSD actually is real before we can ever hope to help treat it (does anyone believe that being shot at or killing your fellow man is not going to affect you in some way either then or in the future?). I guess with the high soldier suicide rate before and after deployment kinda takes care of the complaints from coming in (so those who said he should have just killed himself, well that’s already happening ). What real pissed me off when I heard that the military was trying to say that some soldiers coming back from this war with PTSD or other psychological disorders had “Pre-Existing Conditions” and that the military would not pay to treat them, I think it has been corrected but what a bunch of asses they break you and don’t want to pay.
The final issue is why does the military want to keep people in their ranks that no longer want to be there is it just sheer number? I mean is it ten percent, twenty percent. Is it that it is the only contract in the US that you can’t get out of unless to kill yourself or kill your fellow soldiers? It does not make any sense to me.
I guess the Major could just be another wacko like Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicholas, of course McVeigh was executed and apparently because Nicholas became a Christian he received a life sentenced. I real think if he gets that far the Major will get the former and not in a million years the latter.
This is so messed up, hopefully they will make some changes that make sense.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:48PM
Hurry, we need a heart surgeon, stat!
We seem to have a bleeding heart liberal on our hands and it is effecting his/her brain function.
michelle| 11.7.09 @ 3:11PM
History teachs us that no one relegion is the right one. From the jews, to christans, muslims, each of these relegions has ascended for the the bible. In reality all taking the own version of what they like and what applies to how they live their live accordingly. The jews state that there gods choseen people, at this point in time I think native americans and budhist have it right take care of the planet and what we have right now, because if we don't there isn't going to be a planet left to worry about.
Nick| 11.7.09 @ 8:53PM
Doctor quick, we have another bleeding heart!
You speak with forked tongue. If the Injun's had it so right, why don't you sell your computer and go live in the woods this winter?
Richard Baker| 11.8.09 @ 10:16AM
At the least, I'd closely interrogate the "Moslems" who are in the military as we speak. Since rogue Baptists, Catholics, Buddhists, and Lutherans, among many religions, aren't the ones doing the killing, investigations into the "Moslems" would be a prudent step. How many incidents have to occur over the years by these "folks" before we cast an eye their way? That Army Intelligence, CID, and others in the various levels of Army leadership knew of this guys activities and did nothing says that they are NOT doing their jobs. Can them and get folks in their who will do their jobs. Shameful dereliction of duty.
Montana| 11.12.09 @ 12:08AM
I guess the US military will carry out detail questioning as to why he did it and will prove all of us wrong.
After that happens, I know some will still believe there point still has some merit.
Earlier this year Sgt. John Russell, 44 (Catholic), of Sherman, Texas, is in custody at Camp Liberty in Baghdad where he apparently opened fire at a combat stress clinic Monday, killing five U.S. soldiers.
norris hall| 11.15.09 @ 12:48AM
Nidal malik Hasans deadly rampage is a wakeup call for all Americans
Look around you today. What do you see? Religious people all over the world warring against each other: Muslims against Jews, Hindus against Muslims, Shiites against Sunnis, Protestants against Catholics.
Most of the world's ills can be traced to the hatred of one religious group against another.
How many times have you heard devout Christians say that when it comes to loyalty between their country and their God...they'll choose their God every time.
It's not just Islamists that we need to be wary of. It's anyone who believes that God speaks to them, that they are the only true representatives of God on earth, and that God comes before country.
They are ticking time bombs.
Sound like anyone you know?
It's time for religious fanatics of all faiths to "love this country or leave it".
norris hall| 11.15.09 @ 12:48AM
Nidal malik Hasans deadly rampage is a wakeup call for all Americans
Look around you today. What do you see? Religious people all over the world warring against each other: Muslims against Jews, Hindus against Muslims, Shiites against Sunnis, Protestants against Catholics.
Most of the world's ills can be traced to the hatred of one religious group against another.
How many times have you heard devout Christians say that when it comes to loyalty between their country and their God...they'll choose their God every time.
It's not just Islamists that we need to be wary of. It's anyone who believes that God speaks to them, that they are the only true representatives of God on earth, and that God comes before country.
They are ticking time bombs.
Sound like anyone you know?
It's time for religious fanatics of all faiths to "love this country or leave it".
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