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Liberal Reader| 11.5.09 @ 11:25PM

This is a terrible, terrible thing. The people at Fort Hood have done their country a great service for the past eight years; what an awful, goddamned awful thing for this to happen at home!

It seems wrong to fix blame; ultimately, the military pulls in hundreds of thousands of people. Almost all of them are good people. But a few of them are inexplicably bad.

This seems like it may have had some kind of "political" motivations: but violence like this in service of a political end needs to be called what it is: terrorism.

Dan Phillips| 11.5.09 @ 11:43PM

Medical officers are essentially automatically promoted to Major unless there is some specific disqualifying information. The same way non-medical officers are promoted to Captain. Maj. Hasan was an ROTC grad and a graduate of the military medical school (USUHS) and so probably owed around 11 years (4 + 7). Getting such a person out of the military is no small task. The military had much invested in him and they don't want doctors easily kicked out. At least partially out of fear that some would act up or mouth off just to get kicked out and then go make a lot more money in the civilian world. So they would likely make life very difficult for you before they would boot you out. I was a psychiatrist in the AF, and it might be hard for others to understand the dynamic that was likely at work here, but I think I get it. Hasan was probably seen more as a malcontent and a behavior problem than a security risk. His superiors and others might have viewed this as more of a scam to get out or avoid deployment, like someone claiming to be homosexual.

JEV| 11.5.09 @ 11:48PM

It's nice to know that the army is a great career path for fans of terrorist suicide bombers. If this is how our army bureaucracy conducts itself, we might as well turn out the lights.

Dan Phillips| 11.5.09 @ 11:55PM

Medical officers are essentially automatically promoted to Major unless there is some specific disqualifying information. The same way non-medical officers are promoted to Captain. Maj. Hasan was an ROTC grad and a graduate of the military medical school (USUHS) and so probably owed around 11 years (4 + 7). Getting such a person out of the military is no small task. The military had much invested in him and they don't want doctors easily kicked out. At least partially out of fear that some would act up or mouth off just to get kicked out and then go make a lot more money in the civilian world. So they would likely make life very difficult for you before they would boot you out. I was a psychiatrist in the AF, and it might be hard for others to understand the dynamic that was likely at work here, but I think I get it. Hasan was probably seen more as a malcontent and a behavior problem than a security risk. His superiors and others might have viewed this as more of a scam to get out or avoid deployment, like someone claiming to be homosexual.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 12:41AM

Hey guys...Never fear!
Our Governor (of Texas) sent "AN INCIDENT SPECIALIST...FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY"...to protect the US Army.

Screw it! The Texas Ranger (singular) has landed, and the situation is WELL in hand.
God bless the Texas Rangers watching after our US troops.
DO NOT MESS WITH TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Richard Baker| 11.6.09 @ 6:53AM

Sad that the SWAT team failed to extinguish this Islamic thug. Now we have to listen to the multitude of idiots excusing his behavior in and around a trial. Do it the old way. Leave a pistol with one round in his room and allow him to seek Allah.

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 12:58PM

Fortunately, the Islamist thug is now paralyzed. Imagine his "torture" when, and IF he wakes up only to realize that he isn't able to finish the job of killing himself because he can't move.
I'd love to sit by his bedside and read the Bible to him every day. That would be the ultimate torture.

rssg| 11.6.09 @ 7:18AM

It's not a "tragedy" - it is an attack by a Mooooslim against the USA. What part of that don't you understand?

Is it wise to allow Moooslims into our armed forces, when so many of them are "conflicted" in terms of their allegiance to this nation. Usually their first love is Islam. Period.

Also, is it wise to admit mooooslims as immigrants when we are fighting against Islam?

Nessus| 11.6.09 @ 7:25AM

The real issue will never be discussed due to political correctness. Mass immigration.

Immigration has brought us suicide/homicide killings, beheadings, honor killings of daughters by fathers..........all this because we have let primitive Mohammedans into our country in large numbers over the past 10-15 years.

A muslims' first love is Islam. They are only in the US to make a money but their first love and loyalty is to Islam. When will the "pc" crowd on the left and the right learn this?

Joe Smith| 11.6.09 @ 7:28AM

I also am a psychiatrist for the US Army. I agree with AF physician that the army assumed this beast was putting on an act, to get out of being deployed. I believe the army too rigidity holds to the assumption that service member who act out ,just want an easy path out of their service committment. The army also when a unit is deployed are obsessed with getting the required number of service members. They must be more flexible

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 12:02PM

"I agree with AF physician that the army assumed this beast was putting on an act, to get out of being deployed."
That, if it's true, that the Army assumed he was putting on an act is in itself INSANE!
I don't know if it's true, but IF it is then they better change that type of thinking else there will be more of this terrorism on our brave men and women.
I mean, I've heard shrinks on the radio all my life saying that
1. IF someone says they are SUICIDAL you take it SERIOUSLY! You treat it like it's REAL.

I feel so sad for the way we've degraded our Armed Forces through disgusting political correctness out of fear of "offending" our enemies.
When will we stop this? WHEN??
This murderous THUG shouted "Allah Akbar" as he sot and killed our wonderful brave men and women in our BELOVED Military and the SCUM MEDIA doesn't even want to report it! They don't even want to SAY the guy is a MUSLIM! What an utter DISGRACE!
The creep is now paralyzed and on a ventilator. Imagine that. We're trying to help the guy.

martin j smith| 11.6.09 @ 7:50AM

Sadly I think we will never know the truth about this guys motives. That is the way it is when it involves a "high profile" episode. Why? The suggestion of a "terrorist motive" That is why. What we will get are two views--the unhappy depressed version--and the fuming angry hate America and the West version. When the perpetrator dies the truth dies then and there.
Yet I truly believe that if enough digging is done by reporters who are truthful themselves a reasonable approximation may be possible. It is far too soon to come to any definitive conclusion.
In 2-4 weeks we should have a better idea. Sadly I have to admit in myself that I would say my first reaction was "terrorist " due to the fact that there were others held --later released so I have heard.
And, the NYT front page suggesting personal motives --the NYT I do not trust AT ALL !!!
So there you go. Lets see what happens.

TennesseeVolunteer| 11.6.09 @ 8:47AM

Am not a service member but one thing is clear. The political correctness of our armed forces because of liberal pressure over many, many years is bringing us to this point.
We can criticize those who managed the guy but the reality is "Do we really want an armed forces that is required to take people whose religious heritage is adamantly opposed to mainstream America?
I hope this is not the event that the government feels they have to 'take over'.

Grzmlyk| 11.6.09 @ 10:31AM

Silly.

He remained in the military because the military is fast becoming one big celebration of diversity. The purpose of the military ought not be defending American interests, killing people and breaking things; it ought to be as a giant petrie dish in which good liberals may freely conduct social experiments.

Look how well Jessica Lynch worked out!

And what says "we mean Islam no harm" more emphatically than allowing the occasional islamofascist wearing the uniform of the U.S. Army to kill a few of our soldiers?

It's not like people who join the army - I mean white Christians only, of course - aren't trigger-happy sociopaths anyway (we KNOW the rest are victims of capitalism who have no choice but to kill for greedy Big Oil).

Poor guy. Who can blame him? He was probably subjected to disapproving stares when he sympathized with Muslim fanatics.

Now that we've had another Muslim kill Americans, that means we're going to have to bend over even further backward to show them we aren't out to hurt them.

Anything wrong with this picture, or is it just me?

S.L. Toddard| 11.6.09 @ 11:02AM

As always, the great Dr. Fleming has the most honest and logically impregnable take on the situation:

There is little to say about the shootings at Ft. Hood that has not already been said a thousand times in half-sentence bursts—expletives undeleted—on every newspaper site in the United States, but there are one or two questions to ask or ask again.

Here in Ft. Worth, when I read the news yesterday afternoon, I assumed immediately it was a Muslim, and, no, I did not feel ashamed of my snap judgment. Ethnic stereotypes, as Steve Goldberg pointed out years ago in Chronicles, represent statistical reality. Disregard them at your peril. Not all stereotypes are negative. The quality in Jews that Christians criticize as “pushy,” Goldberg argued, is valued by Jews as “enterprising.” In the case of pious Muslims like Dr. Hasan, killing one’s self and others for the faith, is not terrorism but an active of religious courage. Mass murder, for many Muslims including Mohammed, is what martyrdom is for Christians. I was roundly attacked for saying this after 911, but it is true. Online, Hasan made the same argument, according to the story on the AP. Comparing suicide bombers with kamikaze pilots, he argued: ”To say that this soldier [a suicide bomber] committed suicide is inappropriate . . . He is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a noble cause.”

By his own lights and according to his own religious traditions—admittedly, traditions that are not universal in Islam anymore than the celibacy of priests is universal in the Catholic Church—Hasan is not mentally disturbed, only a man who has done his religious duty.

The real criminals in this case are not this pathetic creature who thinks killing his colleagues is an act of faith, but the US military officials who continue to admit Muslims into the armed forces, and if we really wish to point the figure at guilty parties, we can point to Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the Republican Party apparatchiks who keep on telling us that Islam is a religion of peace. These people, it is absolutely clear, have no more interest in protecting the security of the American people than Barack Hussein Obama and Rahm Emanuel.

A second, admittedly minor, point of interest crops up in a story in The Washington Post. Describing the killer’s parents as Palestinian immigrants, the story goes on to say that “The Hasan family was large and had deep roots in Roanoke Valley, said Amer Azibidi, minister and imam of the KUFA Center of Islamic Knowledge.” So in the world of The Washington Post, immigrants to the US have “deep roots” wherever they choose to settle. Hassan’s family had deep roots in Palestine, probably going back thousands of years, until they were driven out by Israeli terrorist violence. Admittedly, knowing what we know now about Muslims—but should have known all along—we would not want them living next door to us either, no matter how we acquired our land, by purchase or violent occupation. Still, it is not unreasonable to ask the state of Israel to begin paying reparations to the United States for all the mischief it has caused. Obviously, that is not going to happen, and even an Islamophile president cannot stand up to the Israel lobby. He made that plain enough in appointing one of that lobby’s agents as his chief of staff.

The spin on the story began with the first announcement that the killer is a Muslim. CAIR came out with an entirely predictable statement disclaiming any connection between Islam and terrorism. But this is the same CAIR that has repeatedly defended Muslims accused of terrorist activities in the US and attempted to silence anyone who opposes the Jihadists.

Nothing productive will come out of this incident, because the people who run the United States are committed to three suicidal policies, any one of which we might survive, but not all free. First, we have given a blank check to Israel, which has helped focus the hatred of the Muslim world on the United States. There has always been Islamic terrorism—how else did they eliminate so many Jews and Christians from the Middle East, rational persuasion? Second, we refuse to do anything about the Muslims who are in the United States and continue to support Muslim terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia. This is the same policy that brought the Mujahidin and eventually the Taliban to power in Afghanistan. Third, and worst of all, we can simultaneously support the Jewish state and its Muslim enemies because we reject our own history, religion, and identity.

Christian Zionists are no better in this regard than leftist Muslim-loving multi-culturalists. The corruption of the American mind begins the day a child enters kindergarten and it goes on until he graduates and continues every day he picks up the newspaper or turns on the television. We don’t have a country. If we did, neither CAIR nor AIPAC would be allowed to operate.

http://www.chroniclesmagazine......ver-learn/

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 12:42PM

You're an idiot and an anti-Semite. You're also an idiot for trying to blame Donald Rumsfeld, George Bush, Dick Chaney and the Republican Party. I don't know who bore you or why you chose to be the slime that you are, but your disgusting haughty racist attitude and lies make me sick.
No one here believes you. If anyone does~~please~~Let's hear from you now!

Red Phillips| 11.6.09 @ 4:24PM

Margie, this is a post from Dr. Thomas Fleming, the Editor of Chronicles Magazine. I suggest you follow the link and argue it out with Dr. Fleming at the Chronicles website. But keep in mind that Dr. Fleming is well known for his intelligence, command of the facts, and his inability to tolerate fools gladly so I suggest come prepared with more than mindless name calling. You will have to do better than calling everyone who questions our current relationship with Israel an anti-Semite.

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:10PM

Nope. Don't think so Chiefy.

Red Phillips| 11.6.09 @ 7:54PM

What's the matter Margie? Scared? I dare you. I double dog dare you. Why don't you take your mindless, know-nothing insults in place of argument act on the road and argue it up with some intelligent non-interventionist conservatives instead of with the choir here where it is safe. You wouldn't last more than a post or two.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:51AM

"Non-interventionist" "conservatives". What a royal joke! You're nothing but a Leftist know-nothing, along with your "Dr." and pals.
Anti-Semitic creeps. Continue hiding in your basements and let the proud Men in our Armed Forces do the dirty work for you.

Red Phillips| 11.8.09 @ 1:10AM

I'm a leftist? Margie, learn some political philosophy. You are embarrassing yourself. I am proably one of the least leftist people you know.

Margie| 11.8.09 @ 1:06PM

Yep. Leftists are NON-INTERVENTIONISTS.
That's what you are.
You're a Leftist in conservate clothing.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:09AM

Did you also want to put up your dukes or something?
Talk about immature. My word. Want to challenge me to a duel?
What a man!

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:17PM

Oh. I forgot. Do I have the word STUPID written across my forehead, young man? Would a person post this anti-Semitic filth and lies unless they agreed with it?
As far as intelligence is concerned, "there are none so blind as they who will not see." How smart is that?

Red Phillips| 11.6.09 @ 7:59PM

Margie, of course Stoddard agrees with it. The point is that it IS NOT anti-Semitic. Dr. Fleming takes issue with American foreign policy toward Israel. If you think that alone makes him an anti-Semite, then you are a simpleton and need to leave the arguing to the grown-ups.

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:37PM

Oh. And another thing.. I must inform you that God does not tolerate fools lightly.
Tsk tsk.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:11AM

"You will have to do better than calling everyone who questions our current relationship with Israel an anti-Semite."
Everyone? That would be
1. You.
2. Toddard.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:14AM

Red Phillips~ The Toddard clone who in a previous post admitted to posting along with him. Birds of a feather. Funny how you seem to be the only one defending his disgusting lies and anti-American, anti-Israel filth.
And a person doesn't need 4 years of college to see it.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.6.09 @ 11:44AM

copy/paste the following after each Toddard post and every other "eskimo" post.
(You do know the "eskimo strategy" don't you? They kept retreating until they finally found a place to live where no one else wanted to live.)
Toddard wants to retreat to "Fortress America", (with Superman at the north pole), and let the rest of the world go to hell in a handbasket.
(uh, until they start landing on our beaches.)

...Duh, was I clairvoyant yesterday morning before the attack ...or not. They don't have to land on our beaches though. They are here.

Moving north yet Toddard?

S.L. Toddard| 11.6.09 @ 11:53AM

I'm sorry, I can't decipher that gibberish. Where did you learn to write?

Red Phillips| 11.6.09 @ 4:32PM

Ken, I believe I have asked you this before, but PLEASE, I beg you, work out the scenario for me where "they" are landing on our beaches. Which country? What beaches? What Muslim country has that kind of Navy? That kind of troop strength?

The fact that "they" are here and hence represent a domestic threat is, for the hundredth time, AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE! It is not a bombing far off countries issue? What country could we have bombed that would have prevented Fort Hood? How has attacking Afghanistan, Iraq, potentially Iran, etc. helped reduce the threat of domestic terrorism one iota?

Gina| 11.6.09 @ 10:09PM

Red, are you Toddard?

KarlinPhoenix| 11.6.09 @ 11:46AM

The highest law for Islamics in America to follow is the Qur'an, not the Constitution. Anytime a Muslim swears an oath to follow our laws (as does anyone in the military and senior government--including the President), he/she does not have to follow their oath because the Qur'an allows lying when it benefits Islam.

Our military should purge the Islamics from their ranks as "unreliable", since our major enemy world-wide is militant Islam. Any individual Muslim may "awaken" and become a Jihadi and murder as many people around them as possible, with whatever mass-casualty weapon system they have at their disposal (and the military has some whopper-big weapon systems!).

Islam is the CULT OF DEATH. To leave Islam is to commit apostasy and the punishment is DEATH TO THE APOSTITE. The Islamics will do all they can to kill former members (they like to use short knives and saw through the necks of their enemies to remove their heads).

These are a 7th Century Cult and must be abolished, world-wide.

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 12:51PM

I appreciate your post very much. Is that something that our Military could do? Purge them from the ranks as unreliable? Why couldn't they? The next thought I had was, that if they did that, then they'd sneak in, still. But we HAVE to protect our men and women.
What can be done? How can we the people clamor for this?
I know. Impeach the Muslim-in-Chief, then purge our Military.

KarlinPhoenix| 11.6.09 @ 1:15PM

Margie, If you want to effect change, vote to throw-out the Congressmen(women) and Senators that support ideas and actions that are contrary to the good of America. That means, also, all of the Repub and LibDem "PROGRESSIVES" gotta go.

The Progressives are the people who are behind the movement underway to form a North American Union (Canada, USA, Mexico), without a vote or the approval of the people of the USA. Obama, GW Bush, Clinton, HW Bush and J.Carter are all Progressives and have been working against the interests of America, in many ways.

Why is the US/Mexican Border wide-open for Mexican Drug Cartels to move drugs, people and Islamic Jihadis into America? The border can be sealed in 6-months but the federal government DOES NOT WANT TO. They only posture at protecting the border. Each week, at least 20,000 Mexicans enter Arizona. Why can't the government stop them? No will, that is why.

Use your vote to remove the offending members of the Legislative Branch of government. Anyone supporting "Open Borders", Cap & Trade, "Man-caused Climate Change" & Immigration Reform (code words for legalizing illegal aliens), must get fired from office and ANYONE ELSE voted in.

FIRE THEM IN 20-10! (tm)

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 1:49PM

I'm a Reagan conservative and a Republican. We never give up.
Our Country Needs Prayer. We need God's mercy because we are in dire straits. Meanwhile will keep backing conservatives in getting nominated and elected. I despise progressives and liberal policies. We The People are fighting for a restoration of the values our Founders intended, and they are conservative values. Limited government, a STRONG defense, LOW taxes, Pro-life, free market enterprise.

Joanie| 11.6.09 @ 10:10PM

Don't vote for RINOs, Margie; hold RNC leadership accountable.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:55AM

Wow, I didn't know my Mother was following me.

Red Phillips| 11.6.09 @ 4:45PM

"The highest law for Islamics in America to follow is the Qur'an, not the Constitution."

Mr. Phoenix, I certainly hope that Christians in America consider the Bible a higher law (in a certain sense) than the Constitution. If they don't, then I think they have their priorities seriously out of place. The problem is not that Muslims get the faith state relationship backwards. The problem is that Islam is a false faith, and Muslims need to embrace the True Faith of Christianity. The problem with the way you formulated your post is that you ultimately make room only for liberal (in the first sense) faiths. Any illiberal faith invariably presents a problem. But Christianity is an illiberal faith.

Joanie| 11.6.09 @ 10:13PM

How many Christians have you heard shout, "Jesus Christ is great," and proceed to slaughter 13 fellow Americans? How many, Red? You are an idiot and I think you're Toddard. Screw you.

Scumbucket.

Red Phillips| 11.8.09 @ 1:04AM

Joanie, I am not Toddard, and I don't think you have the slightest idea the point I am making. Are you a Christian? What is more important to the Christian, the Bible or the Constitution?

Margie| 11.8.09 @ 1:14PM

Everyone is beneath the "intillegence" level of Toddard and friends. Only they understand anything.
Thing is, you don't have to know much in order to realize that Leftists don't believe in going to war outside of the United States in order to defend it. Most Leftists also despise Israel and believe as Toddard and friends do, that we shouldn't be helping Israel and that Israel is "attacking" the poor Palestines for no reason. Leftists also charge America with being an AGGRESSOR.
Toddard & Co. call themselves "Paleo-conservatives" but they believe and spout typical Leftist views. And they are a disgrace!

Grzmlyk| 11.6.09 @ 1:35PM

Margie, YOU are a good egg.

My admiration for you grows daily!

:-)

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 1:39PM

Hey Grz, I really appreciate that! Thanks so much. Likewise, I'm sure. :^)
~Funny. My Grandfather used to call me a good egg. But sometimes he'd call me a bad egg just to make me laugh. He was great. When I grew up I realized he was just like Ronald Reagan, even looked like him. How cool is that?

Grzmlyk| 11.6.09 @ 1:50PM

Well the acorn obviously doesn't fall far from the tree.

I've seen you take the gloves off a couple of times recently. You're my kind of conservative - you can tell the vain posers, the phonies and the trolls from the real human beings.

I sure wish we had Reagan around now. But maybe some of the rising stars will survive the liberal attempts to destroy them.

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 2:10PM

"But maybe some of the rising stars will survive the liberal attempts to destroy them."

Well with us (and others like us), on their sides, they will!

Grzmlyk| 11.6.09 @ 2:20PM

Yes - my fear is always those "independents" and "moderates" who blow with the wind, first toward liberalism, and then, when it's proven to be a disaster, back toward conservativism. But invariably, a couple of years down the road, after the conservative politicians we've just put into office either fail to tame the bureaucratic beast or else lose their bearings and allow the socialist drift to continue, the "independents" and "moderates" blame everything on the "right wing" and march right back over to the liberal camp. Hence Carter followed Nixon/Ford, Clinton followed Bush 1 and - ugh - Obama followed Bush 2.

So my fear isn't the repudiation of Obama - that will happen, God willing. But 1) he's already done so much damage to this country's institutions that I'm very worried we can ever preserve any vestige of American Exceptionalism; and 2) one thing is for sure: after conservatives reclaim Congress, the pendulum will inevitably swing back yet again toward the liberals who will destroy whatever's left unshattered in this country.

Obama might slink away from the national scene in disgrace in 2012 (or 2016) , but by 2016 (or 2020), there will be some new messiah that will convince the fools that their lives are better spent as serfs of the state with a bureaucratic foot on their throat.

So it's the "independents" and "moderates" that I worry about even more than monsters like Obama (and he IS a monster).

Margie| 11.6.09 @ 5:43PM

I share your concerns 100%. We can only do what we can and pray that God continues to show our beloved country His mercy.
When Christ returns He will create a new Heaven and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Rev. 21:1.

Joanie| 11.6.09 @ 10:16PM

Listen to Grz, Margie; listen to the wise one well. Hold RNC leadership accountable so we don't run more RINOs!! Moderates will doom us.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 1:58AM

OK Mommy.

KarlinPhoenix| 11.7.09 @ 1:06AM

To Mr. Phillips (11.6.09 @ 4:45PM):
My point is that the Muslim's doctrine of lying to people not of their political ideology (Islam) being accepted as perfectly all right, as long as it furthers the aims of Islam (including lying when taking oaths to serve America and our Constitution).

Our Constitution provides the rules that are the framework of our government, as you know. When people serve the government as elected officials or as members of the armed forces, they must swear an oath to support our Constitution and government. Islamics are not bound by that oath (due to their political ideology--Islam) and are, thus, unreliable in the service of our nation.

I agree with you that Islam is a false faith. Allah is actually the Moon God of the ancient people of the Arabian peninsula. This is from (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm) and here is the "Conclusion":
The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm

Like you, Mr. Phillips, I think that any benevolent God, as in the Christian God, does not condone murder. Islam and the devil-Allah are all about murdering others, just because the others are of a different ideology. You rarely hear of "Honor Killings" among the Amish, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists and so on. I don't recall Honor Killings from the Buddhists or Hindus or Sikhs, either. The Islamic Qur'an is full of admonitions to kill the Jews and other non-believers of Islam.

Following Islam is inconsistent with following our set of laws and government.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:03AM

I don't believe Mr. Red is interested in facts. He's on a mission along with Toddard and his Dr. pal. Maybe he'll "double dog dare you" as well to go "chat" with him so that you can stop acting like a child. You see, we just don't grasp the brain power of the "Paleo Conservative" mantra that they espouse. We are foolish little ones who need proper indoctrination.

KarlinPhoenix| 11.7.09 @ 9:36AM

Margie,
Thanks for the advise. I will reserve my comments to those interested in the good of our country.

Given the recent admonition by A-Q worldwide, I recommend keeping a good watch for suspicious behaviors by the many Islamists among us. Stratfor published an article recently that shows what is going on:

Here is a portion of the Stratfor article:

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly.....ng_who_how

Counterterrorism: Shifting from 'Who' to 'How' November 4, 2009 | 1918 GMT.
By Scott Stewart and Fred Burton
"In the 11th edition of the online magazine. ................................... Sada al-Malahim (The Echo of Battle), which was released to jihadist Web sites last week, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Nasir al-Wahayshi wrote an article that called for jihadists to conduct simple attacks against a variety of targets. The targets included "any tyrant, intelligence den, prince" or "minister" (referring to the governments in the Muslim world like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Yemen), and "any crusaders whenever you find one of them, like at the airports of the crusader Western countries that participate in the wars against Islam, or their living compounds, trains etc.," (an obvious reference to the United States and Europe and Westerners living in Muslim countries)."

Be ready, America, those "gentle" Islamics have been instructed to murder us by any means available. This is the "Death by a Thousand Cuts Strategy".

This information was available on the "OPEN" Islamic internet "chat room" to the Islamic US Army Shrink at Ft. Hood, before he started handing-out Qur'ans in the morning and became an "Active Shooter".

KarlinPhoenix| 11.7.09 @ 9:58AM

Fox news has an update on the ACTIVE SHOOTER situation from Ft. Hood.

From the article:

"...Around this time, Fort Hood Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley got the call of "shots fired." The SRP isn't on Munley's beat; she was in the area because her vehicle was in the shop.

Munley, 34, was on the scene within three minutes.

Just over 5 feet tall, Munley is an advanced firearms instructor and civilian member of Fort Hood's special reaction team. She had trained on "active shooter" scenarios after the April 2007 mass shooting at Virginia Tech University. She didn't wait for backup.

As Munley approached the squat, rectangular building, a soldier emerged from a door with a gunman in pursuit. The officer fired, and the uniformed shooter wheeled and charged.

Another officer, Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, also responded to the sound of gunfire. He arrived to find Hasan "just standing there, hiding behind a telephone pole."

"He just looked like he was calm and he was just pointing, it was almost like he was pointing his finger at me," Todd told CNN in an interview late Friday. "But then I seen the weapon. ... I just know I seen the weapon and muzzle flashes and then that's when we returned the fire."

Munley was hit at least three times in the exchange — twice through the left leg and once in her right wrist. Hasan was hit four times. It's not clear whose bullets hit the suspect, but from the first shots to the last, authorities say the whole incident lasted less than 10 minutes...."

The Islamic enemy is among us. If you can, be armed and carry extra ammunition. It takes at least 3-10 minutes for Law Enforcement to get on the scene in these ACTIVE SHOOTER situations and, until that happens, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.

Best wishes to all and be safe.

Margie| 11.7.09 @ 2:21PM

Thank you so much for your posts. This is a serious world we live in. What do the Paleo whack jobs have to say now? What do any of the other complainers have to say now who accuse us of being bigots and racists. Just get out of our way. We'll fight for ourselves and for you.
God bless Sgt. Kimberly Munley for being so brave, Sr. Sgt. Mark Todd, and all Military personell on hand. Our prayers are with all of you, and especially the victims. May God heal all of them.

KarlinPhoenix| 11.8.09 @ 12:09AM

Margie,
As usual, you message is well-said.

Bless the First Responders and America's Warriors (and all of their families).