Speaker Nancy Pelosi just unveiled the House Democrats' health
care bill, which is 1,990 pages (PDF here). You'll forgive me if I
haven't yet read all of it, but the clear takeaway is that as
expected, the bill is to the left of the Senate version. It
includes a mandate that forces individuals to purchase insurance
or pay a tax, as well as a requirement that employers provide
insurance or pay a tax. It also creates government-run insurance
exchanges on which a government-run plan would be offered
alongside privately-administered plans that would be subject to
heavier government regulation.
Pelosi said that the bill would cost less than $900 billion over
10 years, wouldn't add to the deficit, and would expand coverage
to 36 million who do not have health insurance. The problem with
the $900 billion estimate is that it doesn't include over $200
billion in costs for a so called "doc fix" which was included in
the initial bill that was priced at over $1 trillion. Instead, as
the Senate tried to do, the House will move separate legislation
to prevent scheduled cuts to doctors' payments under Medicare.
Scanning through the bill, I noticed that the bill would add a
new section to the federal tax code: "PART VIII:HEALTH CARE
RELATED TAXES." Among the new taxes are penalties for individuals
who don't purchase insurance and employers who don't provide
insurance, income tax surcharges of up to 5.6% to those earning
more than $1 million, and a 2.5% excise tax on medical devices.
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Dan| 10.29.09 @ 2:05PM
Just thumbing through it, I didn't see if "Botox" was covered?
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…popular support for the bill. A carefully crafted piece of legislation. A willingness of everybody to work together to work together towards what is a widely shared common goal.” And The American Spectator’s Philip Klein points out new tax provisions, “Scanning through the bill, I noticed that the bill would add a new section to the federal tax code: “PART VIII:HEALTH CARE RELATED…
…Who does that sounds like? Today Speaker Pelosi - whom Owens will support if elected - debuted her health care bill. It’s a freight train of big government. It costs $200 billion more than the $900 billion Pelosi claims it costs. It puts government in charge of private insurance rates. It contains 13 new tax hikes. It makes marriage counselors Medicare providers. It includes a…
…Who does that sounds like? Today Speaker Pelosi - whom Owens will support if elected - debuted her health care bill. It’s a freight train of big government. It costs $200 billion more than the $900 billion Pelosi claims it costs. It puts government in charge of private insurance rates. It contains 13 new tax hikes. It makes marriage counselors Medicare providers. It includes a…
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…of the increase. The “doc fix”— coming in at about $200 billion—is yet to come, and will be handled in a separate piece of legislation, just as the Senate tried. The bill adds a new section to the federal tax code: “‘PART VIII:HEALTH CARE RELATED TAXES.’ Among the new taxes are penalties for individuals who don’t purchase insurance and employers who don’t provide…
mrpeabody| 10.29.09 @ 7:13PM
How do I read this POS??? The PDF is just a bunch of jibberish.
Maybe Nancy P will mail me a copy?
eternalboomer| 10.29.09 @ 10:50PM
Has anyone tried to read this dribble? - what a crock of Sh-t.
Wake the f--k up America. We are being taken to the cleaners.
…It will cause higher costs for you and your families. This bill will not stand up to the constitution and will be found unconstitutional. Find the PDF OF THE BILL AT:  http://spectator.org/blog/2009/10/29/pelosi-drops-1990-page-health Possibly related posts: (automatically generated) All kinds of fun stuff in that thousand-page health care bill that nobodyâ… page turner Say Goodbye To Your Health…
Nick| 10.30.09 @ 10:34AM
At 1990 pages, that comes out to $500+ million a page!
John| 11.1.09 @ 12:23AM
Wow, If you wonder if the why the radio pundits are barking fowl,
read this. Folks if you think its bad now, hold on if this
passes.
Download this and read it, 1990 pages, at least scan it.
CONGRESS MIGHT PASS THE HEALTH BILL WITHOUT VOTING ON IT: A STEP
CLOSER TO TYRANNY
There was a time when I wouldn't believe that members of congress
would be so out of touch with the American people that they would
have to resort to underhanded tactics to thwart the will of the
people.
Well, Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives,
is thinking of doing just that. Representative Louise Slaughter
(D-NY) came up with what is now known as the “Slaughter Solution”
or "Deem and Pass" that will let the House of Representatives
deem the Senate Health Bill as passed in the House without any
representative voting on it. Once they use this outrageous
procedure, the house leadership can then have additional language
inserted into the bill that will satisfy those House Democrats
who oppose the bill in its original form.
Meanwhile, in order for Senate Democrats to be able to use the
Reconciliation procedure – a procedure that circumvents the 60
votes needed to overcome a filibuster – the House must pass the
Senate Bill 'as is', with the exact same wording, before changes
can be made. However, the Democratic leadership in the House
doesn't have enough votes to do that and one of the biggest
reasons is that the Senate Bill has a provision that allows for
taxpayer funded abortions.
I believe that the Slaughter Solution is not only dishonest and
smacks of dirty tricks, but I also believe that it is
unconstitutional as is most of the legislation that congress has
passed in recent years. Article I, Section VII, Clause II of the
U.S. Constitution clearly states: "...the Votes of both Houses
shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the
Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the
Journal of each House respectively..." This newly invented
"Slaughter Solution" clearly does not allow this type of
procedure.
The Democratic leadership in the Senate has tried to assure the
Democratic leadership in the House that if the House simply
passes the bill as it is, the Senate will make changes amenable
to the House after the fact. Pro-life House members, led by Bart
Stupak (D-MI) are balking at this assurance and pointed to the
hundreds of House bills that are currently still wallowing in the
Senate. He also wants to see the changes in writing as he doesn't
trust his own party's leaders.
If the Democratic leaderhip in the Senate imposes the
'Reconciliation Rule' to pass this bill, unfortunately for them,
that alone will not be enough to get the bill passed. The
reconciliation procedure, also known as the 'Byrd Rule' named
after Senator Robert Byrd, is already extremely controversial.
Senator Byrd is on the record in Congress saying his rule was
“Never intended” to pass this kind of legislation, so the House
leadership appears ready to adopt the Slaughter Solution instead.
If the Slaughter Solution is instituted, the House of
Representatives will actually pass the almost $875 billion bill
without the members of the House actually voting on it. This is
outrageous and smacks of something we would expect from the
Russian politburo or a marxist dictatorship.
Although the "Slaughter Solution" or the "deem and pass" rule has
been used in the past, it has never been used to pass legislation
as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill. It is one of
three options that Nancy Pelosi said she is considering for a
House vote, but she added that she prefers this method because it
would politically protect lawmakers who are reluctant to publicly
support the measure. What an outrageous statement, particulalrly
in view of constitutional requirements of Article I, Section VII,
Clause II previously mentioned in this article.
There is also a 1998 Supreme Court ruling, CLINTON v. CITY OF NEW
YORK (97-1374), that said each house of Congress must approve the
exact same text of a bill before it can become law. A
self-executing "deem and pass" rule would sidestep that
requirement, former federal appellate judge Michael McConnell
said in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed and it would be
unconstitutional.
The American people have overwhelmingly rejected this bill, but
the President and the Democrat leaders in both houses of congress
seem intent on using misinformation, lies, deceit, bribery and
any other questionable and unconstitutional procedure to ram this
socialist legislation down the throats of the American people
without a public discussion of the merits. Why?
We are fast approaching a point of no return in America. If our
Marxist President and the Democratic-Socialist leadership in
congress are successful in passing this Health Bill, they will be
emboldened to pass other critical legislation on their agenda to
bring a free America to its knees. If the Health Bill is passed,
they will quickly move to pass an all-encompassing Amnesty Bill,
followed by a massive Cap and Trade Bill, a National biometric ID
Card Bill and then the takeover of America will be almost
complete. All that will be left is for them to come for our guns.
Let us remember that at critical points in human history, only a
few generations have been given the honor and privlege of
defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger.
In 1776, our founders' generation were given the honor and
privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger,
which resulted in the birth of this great nation that is still a
beacon of hope to the freedom loving people of the world.
The generations of World War I and World War II were also given
the honor and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximun
house of danger.
Today in America, we again find ourselves in a critical point in
history, for 'Freedom' once again is in mortal danger, just as it
was in 1776 and in WWI and WWII. Our generation is facing a
different kind of mortal danger to our "Freedom' because that
danger is not coming from some foreign country, king, dictator or
enemy combatants, but it is coming from our own federal
government.
Our Founders told us that “Governments get their just powers from
the consent of the governed and whenever the government becomes
destructive of these ends, it is not only the people's Right, but
it is their sacred Duty to change the government. “
In 2010, we are now the generation that has been given the honor
and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger
and this is our time to perform that sacred duty. We must stand
up, speak up and be willing to actively resist the growing
unconstitutional actions of the our federal government that puts
the interests of government leaders and the oligarchy ahead of
the interests of the people. By definition, this is tryanny.
Let us act before it's too late, not just for ourselves, but for
our children and our children's children. I pray to God that we
will be successful, for the free people of the world are
depending on us.
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Dan| 10.29.09 @ 2:05PM
Just thumbing through it, I didn't see if "Botox" was covered?
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mrpeabody| 10.29.09 @ 7:13PM
How do I read this POS??? The PDF is just a bunch of jibberish. Maybe Nancy P will mail me a copy?
eternalboomer| 10.29.09 @ 10:50PM
Has anyone tried to read this dribble? - what a crock of Sh-t. Wake the f--k up America. We are being taken to the cleaners.
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Nick| 10.30.09 @ 10:34AM
At 1990 pages, that comes out to $500+ million a page!
John| 11.1.09 @ 12:23AM
Wow, If you wonder if the why the radio pundits are barking fowl, read this. Folks if you think its bad now, hold on if this passes.
Download this and read it, 1990 pages, at least scan it.
John Wallace| 3.17.10 @ 6:48PM
CONGRESS MIGHT PASS THE HEALTH BILL WITHOUT VOTING ON IT: A STEP CLOSER TO TYRANNY
There was a time when I wouldn't believe that members of congress would be so out of touch with the American people that they would have to resort to underhanded tactics to thwart the will of the people.
Well, Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, is thinking of doing just that. Representative Louise Slaughter (D-NY) came up with what is now known as the “Slaughter Solution” or "Deem and Pass" that will let the House of Representatives deem the Senate Health Bill as passed in the House without any representative voting on it. Once they use this outrageous procedure, the house leadership can then have additional language inserted into the bill that will satisfy those House Democrats who oppose the bill in its original form.
Meanwhile, in order for Senate Democrats to be able to use the Reconciliation procedure – a procedure that circumvents the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster – the House must pass the Senate Bill 'as is', with the exact same wording, before changes can be made. However, the Democratic leadership in the House doesn't have enough votes to do that and one of the biggest reasons is that the Senate Bill has a provision that allows for taxpayer funded abortions.
I believe that the Slaughter Solution is not only dishonest and smacks of dirty tricks, but I also believe that it is unconstitutional as is most of the legislation that congress has passed in recent years. Article I, Section VII, Clause II of the U.S. Constitution clearly states: "...the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively..." This newly invented "Slaughter Solution" clearly does not allow this type of procedure.
The Democratic leadership in the Senate has tried to assure the Democratic leadership in the House that if the House simply passes the bill as it is, the Senate will make changes amenable to the House after the fact. Pro-life House members, led by Bart Stupak (D-MI) are balking at this assurance and pointed to the hundreds of House bills that are currently still wallowing in the Senate. He also wants to see the changes in writing as he doesn't trust his own party's leaders.
If the Democratic leaderhip in the Senate imposes the 'Reconciliation Rule' to pass this bill, unfortunately for them, that alone will not be enough to get the bill passed. The reconciliation procedure, also known as the 'Byrd Rule' named after Senator Robert Byrd, is already extremely controversial. Senator Byrd is on the record in Congress saying his rule was “Never intended” to pass this kind of legislation, so the House leadership appears ready to adopt the Slaughter Solution instead. If the Slaughter Solution is instituted, the House of Representatives will actually pass the almost $875 billion bill without the members of the House actually voting on it. This is outrageous and smacks of something we would expect from the Russian politburo or a marxist dictatorship.
Although the "Slaughter Solution" or the "deem and pass" rule has been used in the past, it has never been used to pass legislation as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill. It is one of three options that Nancy Pelosi said she is considering for a House vote, but she added that she prefers this method because it would politically protect lawmakers who are reluctant to publicly support the measure. What an outrageous statement, particulalrly in view of constitutional requirements of Article I, Section VII, Clause II previously mentioned in this article.
There is also a 1998 Supreme Court ruling, CLINTON v. CITY OF NEW YORK (97-1374), that said each house of Congress must approve the exact same text of a bill before it can become law. A self-executing "deem and pass" rule would sidestep that requirement, former federal appellate judge Michael McConnell said in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed and it would be unconstitutional.
The American people have overwhelmingly rejected this bill, but the President and the Democrat leaders in both houses of congress seem intent on using misinformation, lies, deceit, bribery and any other questionable and unconstitutional procedure to ram this socialist legislation down the throats of the American people without a public discussion of the merits. Why?
We are fast approaching a point of no return in America. If our Marxist President and the Democratic-Socialist leadership in congress are successful in passing this Health Bill, they will be emboldened to pass other critical legislation on their agenda to bring a free America to its knees. If the Health Bill is passed, they will quickly move to pass an all-encompassing Amnesty Bill, followed by a massive Cap and Trade Bill, a National biometric ID Card Bill and then the takeover of America will be almost complete. All that will be left is for them to come for our guns.
Let us remember that at critical points in human history, only a few generations have been given the honor and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger.
In 1776, our founders' generation were given the honor and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger, which resulted in the birth of this great nation that is still a beacon of hope to the freedom loving people of the world.
The generations of World War I and World War II were also given the honor and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximun house of danger.
Today in America, we again find ourselves in a critical point in history, for 'Freedom' once again is in mortal danger, just as it was in 1776 and in WWI and WWII. Our generation is facing a different kind of mortal danger to our "Freedom' because that danger is not coming from some foreign country, king, dictator or enemy combatants, but it is coming from our own federal government.
Our Founders told us that “Governments get their just powers from the consent of the governed and whenever the government becomes destructive of these ends, it is not only the people's Right, but it is their sacred Duty to change the government. “
In 2010, we are now the generation that has been given the honor and privlege of defending 'Freedom' in its maximum hour of danger and this is our time to perform that sacred duty. We must stand up, speak up and be willing to actively resist the growing unconstitutional actions of the our federal government that puts the interests of government leaders and the oligarchy ahead of the interests of the people. By definition, this is tryanny.
Let us act before it's too late, not just for ourselves, but for our children and our children's children. I pray to God that we will be successful, for the free people of the world are depending on us.
GOD BLESS A FREE AMERICA!!!!!!
John Wallace
www.TeaPartyRep.com
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