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Newsweek Misrepresents the Sparkman Case

This headline is blatantly misleading:

ANTI-CENSUS SENTIMENT
The recent hanging death of a census taker highlights growing controversies around the census.

The "hook" of Eve Conant's story is an unjustified assumption that Bill Sparkman's death in Clay County, Ky., was related to the 51-year-old's part-time job as a Census worker -- although the motive is unknown, no suspects have been identified, and law enforcement officials refuse to speculate about the case.

As a matter of fact, the dead man's 19-year-old son, Josh -- who was adopted as an infant by the unmarried Sparkman before he moved to Kentucky -- has complained that Kentucky State Police and other authorities refuse to rule out suicide as a cause of death:

"I look at it as disrespectful to be still throwing suicide and accident around," Josh Sparkman told The Associated Press in a phone interview Tuesday. "He didn't do this to himself. That's dishonorable. My dad was a good man. No person on this planet is going to fight cancer like he did, then turn around and kill himself a year or so later."

Furthermore, the coroner and state medical examiner have ruled that Sparkman's death was caused by asphyxiation, without saying whether this was due to the rope around his neck. His mouth was reportedly gagged with a cloth, bound with duct tape, and this may well have caused Sparkman's death although, again, it's important to emphasize that officials in Kentucky refuse to confirm or deny key details of the case. 

However, officials have indicated that it was not a "hanging death" -- Sparkman's body was in contact with the ground when it was found, nude except for a pair of socks, according to the man who discovered the body. The rope around Sparkman's neck was tied to a tree limb, so as to suspend his body upright, but he wasn't dangling in mid-air.

Baseless speculation about this case -- and particularly, the attempt by some to make a political symbol of Sparkman's death -- was what motivated me to travel this past week to Kentucky, where I spent three days in Clay County and neighboring Laurel County, where Sparkman lived.

The involvement of the FBI in the case has resulted in an almost complete official silence from state and local law enforcement. However, residents of the area (including local journalists I interviewed at length) are profoundly skeptical of any suggestion that Sparkman was killed because of general "anti-government sentiment" (as the Associated Press was first to suggest) or the more specific "anti-Census sentiment" that is the subject of this Newsweek story.

"He knocked on the wrong door," was the way one resident described what most locals familiar with the case consider the most likely scenario for Sparkman's killing. As the Newseek story notes, eastern Kentucky is known as a haven of marijuana growers. The weed growers plant their crops in Daniel Boone National Forest, which sprawls across the mountainous region and encompasses half of Clay County,

What would be proven if we knew (as we do not) that Sparkman was engaged in Census work at the time of his disappearance -- most likely Sept. 9, three days before his body was discovered in the Hoskins family cemetery some 30 miles east of his home -- and "knocked on the wrong door"?

If the fatal door he knocked on was at the home of a marijuana grower or a drug dealer (methamphetamine and other drugs are also problems in the region), who killed him after mistaking Sparkman's federal identification as evidence that the stranger was a narcotics agent, is that an "anti-government" or "anti-Census" motive? Or is it merely a criminal seeking to prevent detection of his crimes -- the kind of killing that happens with unfortunate frequency in America all the time?

That, however, is strictly a hypothetical scenario. The haste of some journalists and bloggers to attribute Sparkman's mysterious death to a particular motive -- to give it a political meaning -- based on speculation and assumptions, is irresponsible in the extreme.

In a Sept. 28 front-page news article in the London (Ky.) Sentinel-Echo, the newspaper's managing editor Joseph Deal interviewed Kentucky State Police spokesman Don Trosper. Some widely quoted news accounts of Sparkman's death were based on "pure speculation," Trooper Trosper told Deal:

Trosper said it is official KSP policy "not to discuss ongoing investigations, especially specific evidentiary information. We will not talk about an investigation just to give information out there that could jeopardize the investigation. Our primary function is to investigate cases and bring positive results. A secondary function is things such as media contacts."
Trosper said he could not estimate how long the investigation would take, other than to say that "the investigation is ongoing and our officers are investigating it daily."
He said leaks, especially the dissemination of incorrect information, can be damaging to any investigation.
"Misinformation is much more damaging to our investigation than the correct or no information," he said. (Emphasis added.)

Bill Sparkman is dead, the investigation of his death is already three weeks old, and if this mysterious case is ever going to be solved, it won't be solved by uninformed speculation.

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As a matter of fact, the dead man's 19-year-old son, Josh -- who was adopted as an infant by the unmarried Sparkman before he moved to Kentucky -- has complained that Kentucky State Police and other authorities refuse to rule out suicide as a cause of death:

"I look at it as disrespectful to be still throwing suicide and accident around," Josh Sparkman told The Associated Press in a phone interview Tuesday. "He didn't do this to himself. That's dishonorable. My dad was a good man. No person on this planet is going to fight cancer like he did, then turn around and kill himself a year or so later."
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I think you have things backwards here...

But I hate newsweek... it's to the left of The New Republic anymore...

Pingback| 10.3.09 @ 2:14PM

Look, Another Steaming Pile of MSM Journalism on the Sparkman Murder links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…filed this story for Newsweek that used the death of Bill Sparkman in Kentucky as a springboard to conjecture about anti-Census violence. Second, Stacy McCain sat in his living room today and wrote this blog post about why Eve Conant’s story is deceptive and is only barely fit for use as parakeet cage lining. What is the difference between those two journalists? One of them actually went to Kentucky for…

Nick| 10.3.09 @ 2:32PM

My question is: "Since when have liberals let facts get in the way of their anti-conservative agitprop?"

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Newsweek: Journalism Is Hard « The Rhetorican links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

by Jehuda Disclaimer/Terms of Use jump to navigation Newsweek: Journalism Is Hard October 3, 2009 Posted by Jehuda in Uncategorized. Tags: Crime, media bias, News, Politics trackback R.S. McCain catches Newsweek misrepresenting the facts of the Sparkman case. Newsweek - like much of the Legacy Media – needs to become re-acquainted with the importance of shoe leather to quality journalism.…

Bob Belvedere| 10.3.09 @ 5:36PM

Quoted from and linked to at:
THE DEATH OF BILL SPARKMAN V

Summer| 10.3.09 @ 7:09PM

Liberals are desperate because they're losing the national debate and their approvals are plummeting.

AP and Newsweek are leftwing propaganda outlets and will do anything to besmirch conservatives, including lie.

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Why does the Liberal media continue to lie about the Bill Sparkman death? | Political links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…something to be said about darn good journalism. Once again; Robert Stacy McCain does, what the Main Stream Corporate Media will not do. Report the story accurately. An Excerpt from the story in The American Spectator: (H/T The Other McCain ) “He knocked on the wrong door,” was the way one resident described what most locals familiar with the case consider the most likely scenario for…

M. Sparkman| 10.3.09 @ 10:31PM

How do you people sleep at night? This was no suicide, the word FED was scrawled on his chest and his census ID was duct taped to his neck, he was gagged, duct tape over his eyes and his hands and feet were bound as all news reports indicate. There is a special place in hell for writers like you.

Summer| 10.3.09 @ 11:48PM

Who said it was a suicide? Certainly, no one here expressed joy over this poor man's demise--why all the faux outrage, liberal numbnut?

Shame on you .

M. Sparkman| 10.4.09 @ 8:17AM

The author made it a point to try and keep the suicide aspect alive and happened to leave out the reason many are considering this a political murder...that pesky FED business, you'll notice the author conveniently leaves it out. Again, it seems your author is conveniently trying to make this a "big bad liberal media" story while leaving out the facts about WHY it's being viewed in that manner.

Summer| 10.4.09 @ 5:49PM

Drug runners hate the Feds, always have; a fact YOU conveniently omit. You liberals are just using this poor man's death in a shameful attempt to stop your plunge in the polls.

Liberals like you know no shame.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 8:51AM

Interesting, none of the articles show any indication that he came across drug runners. The only thing you are doing is speculating. However, while we're speculating drug runners arent likely to make a large spectacle out of a victim that stumbled across an operation as it would bring way too much heat down on them.

You might want to look in the mirror about that shame business.

Eric Damon| 10.5.09 @ 12:30PM

Actually the writer does not speculate that the man killed himself, he simply points out that in the course of the investigation that the KSP have NOT ruled out suicide. He then quotes Mr. Spakman's son on his frustration that the KSP are allowing that speculation to continue because of their policy of not publicly commenting on ongoing investigations. Where you gleaned the idea that the author was keeping the suicide speculation alive is a mystery to me.

As for the author not making any refrences to the crime scene evidence (FED scrawl and taped ID), the point of this post is not to rehash the story. It is to point out how unprofessional it is for Newsweek to publish a story about this case based SOLELY on speculation, with no facts to back their claims. So why would he in then course of going after Newsweek for creating an article based on speculation and assumptions then do that himself?

How about you take a moment to reread the post, digest the information, and then post? Doing that will help you post something that is on point with what the posting is addressing, and not one of your liberal rants.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 1:36PM

The author complains about irresponsible speculation, then goes on to post speculation from neighbors about drug dealers being responsible.

The facts that have come out in this case certainly lean towards anti-government, and more specifically anti census, sentiment which has been stoked recently by folks like Bachmann and Beck. It's obvious that this man was murdered yet the author hangs his hat on the fact that the police are being tight lipped about the cause of death, not ruling out suicide.

The reason the author has chosen to leave out the facts that have been reported is to try and make a case that the news outlets connecting the dots are doing to out of some sort of effort to scapegoat the conservative leaders when in fact it would be a safe assumption that if a woman were found in the same manner with the word "whore" scrawled on her torso, it would be an easy jump to assume the killer hated women.

Again, this is simply deflection and nonsensical outrage...and wildly hypocritical.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 1:44PM

The only 'whore' commenting here is you, loser.

Summer| 10.5.09 @ 1:33PM

I have NO agenda--you do, Sparkman, and your speculation is entirely self-serving: No one else mentioned anything about anti-government hostility but you liberal fools. You leftists are failing at governance and are desperately grasping at straws. As I said before, 'shame on you'.

By the way, how do you know so much about drug runners' tactics? Hmmm?

We all know how much you liberals love your illicit drugs. You're probably high out of your mind right now. Snark.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 1:53PM

What a very intelligent, articulate, and well thought out response. I have no idea why the Republicans arent considered the party of intellectuals after reading posts like the ones from Summer.

Summer| 10.5.09 @ 2:01PM

Sparkman, either you're Jeremiah, the ass-clown troll or you work for Newsweak; either way your posted rants are moronic and irrelevant.

You liberals would wet yourselves in glee if you could pin this sad tale on us, but you can't because it's a lie. Why don't you go back to appeasing brutal dictators and cavorting with commies--it's what you stupid liberals do best.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 2:07PM

@Summer No one would wet themselves with glee. A man is dead, brutally murdered, and right now it appears based on the facts (not speculation) that there is some anti-government, possibly anti-census sentiment that is a very obvious part of this murder.

The only moronic posts here seem to be the ones spewing right wing talking points and hatred (yours, Nobamas) while ignoring the facts...again, it puzzles me why conservatives arent known as intellectuals.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 1:41PM

M. Sparkman, you are a dumbass. All of your phony rants are based on speculation, yet, you have the nerve to accuse us of same. Like Summer said, you have an agenda and we don't.

Typical liberal liar; obfuscate the truth because your ideology is a disastrous failure every time it's tried.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 1:57PM

@Nobama, again the only person hiding facts is the author of the article. Complains about speculation at first then posts speculation from locals not involved in the case about drug dealers, which by the way were also included in the Newsweek article.

But again, you and Summer seem to be the true intellectuals of your party.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 2:02PM

Go away, Jeremiah; you bore us.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 2:09PM

Is Jeremiah some new right wing insult I've missed? You're the second person on this blog to hurl it.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 2:19PM

Jeremiah is an insult to humanity, as if you didn't know, Jeremiah.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 2:28PM

"How do you people sleep at night?; there's a special place in hell for writers like you." Typical liberal lies of a liberal "Intellectual." Jeremiah is a master of florid prose.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 3:10PM

The owner of this blog is welcome to pull my IP address and confirm that I am not Jeremiah.

Nobama| 10.5.09 @ 8:13PM

Yeah sure, Jeremiah--you know AmSpec won't pull your IP. Knock it off.

Your posts are stupid, as usual.

M. Sparkman| 10.5.09 @ 10:23PM

How would I know that? Again, the owners of this blog are welcome to pull and post my IP.

And considering your talking points and hate spewing I doubt you have anything to say that's smart.

Nobama| 10.6.09 @ 12:18AM

As usual, liberals spew hate first and then blame it on conservatives. Dude, you're a loser.

Bug off, Bozo; you bore me.

anna| 10.6.09 @ 7:57AM

NOTHING is ever black and white. Bottom line: we still don't know the facts.Whether it was "Susan Smith" style murder, with the perps trying to throw the trail of the authorities, or a possible level of "hate" crime , like Matthew Shepard-- we'll have to see. A man lost his life in a very brutal and savage way. If we can't discuss it civilly without resorting to name calling, there's a lot more to be said about us as Americans, liberal or conservative.

Do we need to remove the word "indivisible" from our pledge of allegiance now?

M. Sparkman| 10.6.09 @ 11:43AM

You're a little late to notice the obvious, Anna; we liberals removed 'indivisible' a long time ago. You been livin' on the moon?

Better get your head out of the sand, or wherever you've got it stuck.

Phil| 10.3.09 @ 10:31PM

Meantime, in Owosso Michigan, on September 4th, Harlan Drake murdered abortion protester James Pouillon in front of his granddaughter, saying that someone should shut him up.

But the press is silent about that, because it would interfere with their crafting of sermonettes about the "climate of hate" on the right.

Rick Diehl| 10.4.09 @ 5:53PM

And what exactly is it that the press should be saying?

Drake was arrested for that murder as well as the murder of his boss, and is facing trial for it.

Do you want to make the claim that he killed his boss over politics too?

Nick| 10.5.09 @ 9:32AM

Mr. Diehl,

Why are you deflecting and obfuscating?

Are you making the claim that he DIDN'T kill Mr. Pouillon over politics?

And, back to Phil's point, are you claiming the press IS covering this story the same way they have in polar opposite situations?

Your "points" are, in fact, pointless.

anna| 10.6.09 @ 8:00AM

I think that history will show that the other side has done its fair share of killing those who have practiced abortion. There is no monopoly of barbarianism here.

Again, we don't have all the facts on that case.
THe killer was apprehended, we'll discover the outcome of the case soon enough without jumping to conclusions about our fellow Americans.

Nick| 10.6.09 @ 9:47AM

Is ther a point in there somewhere?

If so, why the straw men?

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 12:10PM

Really, Anna? Since you're so smart, name us all of those pro-life killers you burbled about. Can't? Figured as much; you liberals have savagery and barbarism down to an art form. You are the party of death and death panels, after all.

Yosemeti Sam| 10.4.09 @ 9:56AM

Conspicuous phenomenon - News weak.

Oldefarte| 10.4.09 @ 11:53AM

Maybe some of those 'PIMPS & HOES' [actual ones, not pretend to be ones] that Acorn gives tax advice to had something to do with this???????

Rick Diehl| 10.4.09 @ 5:54PM

You really are one racist old fart aren't you?

Summer| 10.4.09 @ 7:12PM

Rick, are you saying only minorities can be pimps and prostitutes? Who is the REAL RACIST here?

anna| 10.6.09 @ 8:03AM

Just a guess, but I'm willing to bet neither one of you knows racism, nor have you experienced or lived it.

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 12:06PM

Yes, Anna--please tell us your tear-jerker stories. I'm sure you've been victimized your whole life--and of course, you're the only one who has ever suffered. Liberals like you are eternal victims; unfortunately for you, when you throw yourselves a pity party, you're the only one who shows up. Boring.

Racism is just another liberal agenda, along with trying to pin terrible deaths on your political adversaries to score political points. Losers.

Pingback| 10.4.09 @ 1:41PM

The Reality Check » Blog Archive » Why does the Liberal media continue to lie about t links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…something to be said about darn good journalism. Once again; Robert Stacy McCain does, what the Main Stream Corporate Media will not do. Report the story accurately. An Excerpt from the story in The American Spectator: (H/T The Other McCain ) “He knocked on the wrong door,” was the way one resident described what most locals familiar with the case consider the most likely scenario for…

Pingback| 10.4.09 @ 10:40PM

Shades of Iraq in Ky « DaTechguy's Blog links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…you win a cookie! And despite the late Mr. Johnson (when I say the late Mr. Johnson I’m referring to his credibility) says he was not trying to pick up girls he was instead, wait for it… Reporting: Baseless speculation about this case — and particularly, the attempt by some to make a political symbol of Sparkman’s death — was what motivated me to travel this past week to…

Thomas| 10.5.09 @ 10:03AM

There has been lots of speculation concerning the death of Mr. Sparkman. However, almost nothing is publicly known concerning who is responsible for his death or their motives, or even the exact circumstances .

What must be cautioned here is what must always be cautioned in cases like this: do not jump to conclusions.

Pingback| 10.5.09 @ 8:48PM

GayPatriot » What Happened to Bill Sparkman?* links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:

…At any rate, that Tampa story is full of very strong  suggestions that my Kentucky sources have reasonbly accurate “gaydar.” He doesn’t do as Newsweek does (indeed he takes that magazine to task for doing so ) and chalk Sparkman’s death up to anti-census sentiment.   It would be nice if those who rushed to presume that right-wingers had created the climate which led to the murder of…

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 12:13AM

The Newsweek headline is misleading.

Leaving out the fact that the word "fed" was scrawled on his chest and his census id card was taped to his body is either misleading or really shoddy reporting.

If one is to speculate at all (ie about drug dealers) than there is plenty of reason to speculate about anti-government sentiment. If there wasn't, the FBI wouldn't be involved. I anticipate that you will all react to that statement as me saying that the FBI is involved and therefore it was anti-government. That isn't what I said.

As to the person who brought up Pouillon - you really think these two things are comparable. I mean, other than the fact that everyone has been too wrapped up in their finger pointing to care about um, ya know, murder.
Oh, wait, Sparkman might not have been murdered. So a man is tied to a tree, naked, the word "fed" written on his chest, hands and feet duct taped, neck duct taped, mouth gagged - did I miss anything? - and we think it's possible he did that to himself?? Oh, I remember what I forgot - his census badge was taped to his body as well Forget politics and the why - - - how? How did he accomplish that?
How can speculation of suicide not seem bizarre? Does that mean it was anti-government. Or for that matter, if it was anti-government, there is a difference between an anti-government movement and a lone anti-government nutball. Could be either of those things. Hell, it could be that someone had a grudge against this guy and covered it up by framing the facts to look anti-government. Or it could be that someone took all that talk of "burglars" ; "internment camps" ; "big brother" etc very literally. Taking that last option off the table at this point is fairly irresponsible.

Nick| 10.6.09 @ 9:54AM

Nice try at deflection, Miss Brooks.

The point is that the MSM want it to be some anti-government murderer, no matter what the facts are. This way they can blame talk-radio and the tea-parties.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 11:20AM

Ever seen Princess Bride? "You keep on using that word - I do not think it means what you think it means"

I wasn't deflecting anything. I simply didn't bobble head. I said, it is irresponsible to suggest it is an anti-government murder at this point. And again, it is equally irresponsible to pretend that 'anti-government' isn't a possibility.

However, the AP, for example, included the facts that it hasn't been ruled a homicide; that there are drug runners in the area; that there are other possibilities etc. This article on the other hand blatantly left out facts.

The word 'fed' and his badge being taped to him are facts. Do they make it an open and shut case - no, not at all. But why should they be completely omitted out of any reporting on the subject?

So then, *my* point is that while engaged in the criticism of someone else's methods one should take extra precaution not to engage in the same behavior.

I also criticize *every* media source, not just this one, for not criticizing the ideas of 'accident' or 'suicide'. I haven't seen one single article that has pointed out how irrefutably ridiculous those ""possibilities"" are.

And as to the overall with 'MSM' - bah! All media is after is selling stories. I just checked the websites for CNN; FOX; MSNBC; ABC; CBS; Reuters; AP and there isn't an article on any of those sites since Sept. 29th so how interested are they exactly?

You apparently want it to NOT be anti-government regardless of what the facts are. Why?

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 11:38AM

OH! almost forgot one - checked the Huffington Post as well. They haven't touched it since Sept. 29th either.

They did have one article blatantly referring to anti-fed sentiment in Kentucky. Of course, that author traced the anti-government sentiment roots back to the late 1700s and the governments 'screwing' of and with the people of the Appalachian area then and continuing onward with the government building on their backs and making laws that made life continually worse for those people. No mention of any current anti-government sentiment.

SLT| 10.6.09 @ 11:47AM

I bet you checked Huff/Po; just another liberal troll with no life and nothing better to do.

How's mommy's basement today?

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 12:00PM

Seriously, SLT? That's the best you could do? Insulting me for actually looking into something before I speak about it?

That speaks volumes.

SLT| 10.6.09 @ 12:13PM

I'm insulting you for pretending to post in good faith, troll. Go back to HuffPo where you belong, moron.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 12:41PM

I did post in good faith. You know that good faith doesn't mean blind agreement, right?

I went to Huffington after I went to 7 other news sources. I went there figuring that if any news source would be holding on to the story and trying to say it was anti-government sentiment it would be them. In other words, I purposefully tried to prove your point for you.

But you're right - I made a mistake. I thought this was a forum for discussion and that this story would draw people who were interested in journalistic responsibility to the truth.

My three year old debates with greater integrity, fewer logical fallacies (ie I don't agree with you therefore I must agree with ""them"") and less emotional garbage.

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 1:13PM

This man is just another unfortunate victim of foul play, happens every day--are you so concerned about the others who died that same day? No? Why not?

Perhaps because the other deaths don't score you liberal political agenda brownie points? Thought so, loser.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 1:36PM

Where did you get that this man is a victim of foul play? According to police he might have done this to himself.

And again, it is possible it is anti-government - to rule that out is irresponsible.

That same day? We don't even know what day it was he died. But in general, yes, I'm concerned with murder.

Actually, I was actually just reading about the Cates case. Another one that they weren't sure what happened for a while. Most murders, the killer is known or at least a suspect named in very short order. Turned out to be four burglars in the Cates case - killed her and left her eleven year old for dead although the girl seems to be fine - well, physically.

How exactly does this score anyone brownie points? If it is anti-government, I certainly wouldn't believe that means that all those opposed to the current administration are murderers. And if it isn't anti-government it doesn't make Michele Bachman's comments any less ludicrous or irresponsible.

This case draws attention because it is an unusual murder, and yes, because of the possibilities of an anti-government sentiment, because of the FBI involvement (because even if this isn't some "agenda" if the man was killed during his capacity as an agent of the federal government it is a federal crime). I am drawn to it because of people on both the left and the right manipulating the information to either prove or dismiss charges of anti-government motive when neither can be done at this point. Oh, and the obvious crazypants notion that maybe he committed suicide.

But if all that is too complex for you to grasp then by all means feel free to assume that my lack of submission to your blinders view of life means that I am trying to profit from someone's death.
And I will assume that you don't care why or how he died because you figure he probably had it coming.

I SMELL A TROLL!| 10.6.09 @ 2:02PM

Murder? Who said anything about murder? I suggest you have your morbid little obsession checked out by a professional, it's not healthy to focus so much on death and dying. You need a job--go get one, and stop trying to make this unfortunate man into a liberal political victory.

You leftists have no shame, but we've always known that.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 3:32PM

The (and I use the term loosely) gentleman before you said that Sparkman was a victim of foul play. I, in fact, pointed out to him that the police had not yet ruled it a murder. Sparkman may well have tied himself to that tree etc.
I have a job and a life and if any of you presented anything like an actual debate this might take some time and effort that I couldn't afford. But as it is watching a sitcom would require more energy.

Please show me where I have made indicators of what political victory I hope to gain. Who am I against and who am I for? And should the man's murder (or accidental death) be proven to have anti-government motive behind it - what gain would be made?

Also, you need to look up the definition of troll. A troll is one who generally does not actually respond to the content of another's post and focuses on attack - much like your "response" to my post lacks any address to the content of what i said and instead focuses on insulting me and my life.

Judy| 10.6.09 @ 3:32PM

Had it coming? You mean like the little 13 year old girl who was drugged, raped and sodomized by Polanski? That's what you liberal morons think by defending the pervert--you amoral creeps disgust me.

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 3:38PM

Good one, Judy!! Liberals like Dawn are all about perversion and nasty sexual deviancy--and using unfortunate individuals to score cheap political points.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 3:47PM

Wow. You are both really thick. And a little sick.

The full statement was that if the "gentleman" was going to attribute a nasty and unfounded sentiment to me based on convenience then I would return the favor.

No, this man did not deserve what happened to him (or what he did to himself) which is exactly why I would like to know what the events were.

Interesting how very easily you can speak out of both sides of your mouth Jeremiah.

Again, what political point am I attempting to make?

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 4:37PM

Dawn, if you're so busy as you claim and have no agenda why are you still posting here?

You look like a real loser and every time you post your phony comments you prove my point that you're just another liberal whore monger troll.

Please take your self-righteous, faux outrage and shove them both up your stupid ass.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 5:05PM

I didn't say I was so busy. I said this doesn't take much time.

I didn't say I had no agenda - I said I wasn't trying to use this man's death to forward a political victory. I told you why I began posting. And right up until my last post I was *still* trying to engage in an actual dialog.

Why am I still posting - because there is no reason that someone should get away with the ad hominem attacks you and a few others have lobbed without being called out. And honestly, also, because your complete inability to stay on topic is nearly as fascinating as your singleminded dedication to your own propaganda and dichotomous view of the world, regardless of facts to the contrary.

I never said I was outraged. What do you think I'm outraged about? I think you may be a little angry yourself but then I don't think that has much to do with me so I'm not really concerning myself with it.

What is phony about my comments?

I think that last sentence of yours should have read "please take your self righteousness and faux outrage and shove them both up your ass" because the way you wrote it self-righteous is an adjective to faux outrage which leaves me with only one thing to shove up my ass. OH, I mean my stupid ass. It's a wonder I can resist bending to the sparkle of such wit and rhetoric.

Why are you still answering me?

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 5:12PM

Because I can't stand lying liberal trolls like you, d-bag.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 5:16PM

I haven't lied. I haven't presented a political agenda. I haven't resorted to calling anyone names. That's how I know I'm not you.

No Axelrod Trolls| 10.6.09 @ 5:19PM

Always the obnoxious little pedant, Jeremiah. You just can't help your arrogant, over-educated ass, can you? Snark.

You are such a loser.

No Jeremiahs| 10.6.09 @ 7:09PM

Bye, bye, Axelrod troll.

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 1:16PM

Your ' 3 year old' is probably smarter than you and has more integrity, too.

Jeremiah| 10.6.09 @ 11:59AM

Dawn, why do you WANT this poor man's death to have been caused by anti-government sentiment regardless of the facts? WHY?

Shame on you and your fellow liberals for trying to make political points off his terrible demise.

You have too much time on your hands; I suggest you get a life or something.

Dawn Brooks| 10.6.09 @ 12:07PM

I don't have any particular stake in the causes of his death. And if that is what you got out of what I wrote . . . you have serious comprehension problems.

I actually haven't made any political points yet, with the exception of my criticism of the media.

Another stunning rebuttal - I have something to say and therefore I must have no life. Why would you waste your time reading and responding to the thoughts of someone with no life?

SLT| 10.6.09 @ 12:14PM

Bye bye, Dawn. Put your bong down and go back to HuffPo with your fellow liberal losers. You've made no points here, troll.

Nick| 10.6.09 @ 10:53PM

Miss Brooks,

This was a blog entry, not an article. You are "deflecting" away from the point of the blog entry, namely that the liberal MSM are abusing this story by trying to link it to talk-radio and tea-party protesters.

You are also speculating. Law enforcement has released few details of this crime. Anonymous sources can't be trusted, so there are very little "facts" to base anything on.

But you have no problem declaring something "irrefutably ridiculous" based on no knowledge whatsoever. By the way, all the police said was they haven't ruled out suicide, yet. That is what police do, rule things out. It's called being methodical. Something I'm sure you know nothing about.

"You apparently want it to NOT be anti-government regardless of what the facts are. Why?"

The only person this is "apparent" to, is you. I have no idea what happened. I just want anyone guilty of a crime tried and convicted. If it happens to be some militia nut, lock him up.

It still won't make Rush and Beck morally responsible. Even if the guy said it was because Rush was ranting about the census.

If Mr. Sparkman was murdered, the only person responsible is the one guilty of the crime.

ZerObama| 10.7.09 @ 12:34AM

Yes, and only reprehensible liberals would try to use this tragic event to score cheap political points. Sociopathic animals; liberals do not have a conscience. They're nuts, too.

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