Well, Maureen Dowd will be furious when she hears this one. It is
Ms. Dowd, as noted in my
column nearby, who said she heard Congressman Joe Wilson
really yell "You Lie...Boy!" in a racially derogatory fashion
even though she admits he only said the first two words. Her
point, of course, is that to refer to the President as a "boy" is
a racial insult.
In case Ms. Dowd -- or White Mo as we fondly refer to her in
these quarters based on her proclivity for judging people by skin
color -- saw the video linked
here she might, well, never write about it! After all, you
don't want to see Jimmy Carter actually call Mr. Obama "this
black boy" and get written up as an actual news event in the
New York Times, do you. As the rest of us learned
long ago, all the news really isn't fit to print.
Gene Koprowski, president of the Illinois Assembly, pointed us to
this video, courtesy of Frances Rice, in which the
illustrious Jimmy Carter during last year's Democratic Convention
refers to Barack Obama as "this black boy"... Rice, by the way,
is a retired Army Lieutenant Colonel, a lawyer and chairman of
the National Black Republican Association. She can be contacted
at: www.NBRA.Info
We all remember the media horror that ensued over this,
right?
Next thing you know, Carter will tell one and all that he loves
Nigras.
Alan B rooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:34AM
Carter:
"My ancestors hired plenty of coloreds back in the day.''
Alan Brooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:35AM
Carter:
"Colored people have always been the hardest working grunts in
Georgia, on or off the plantations."
S.L. Toddard| 9.22.09 @ 11:35AM
"Congressman Joe Wilson really yell "You Lie...Boy!"
Even if that were what he said, it's not clear that it's
"racist". Southerners often use "boy" as a term of endearment.
Alan Brooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:47AM
and pimps use 'ho' as a term of endearment as well.
"Ho, bring your own towel next time.
Ahm runnin' out of 'em."
Angel| 9.22.09 @ 2:08PM
If 'black boy' is a term of endearment, as you state, let's see
you walk up to a young African American child and address him as
such. Good luck with that, clueless honky!
Those good black folks would run you off like a scurvy dog. Ha!
andrew young| 9.22.09 @ 11:46AM
Jimmy Carter is a mean-spirited, vengeful, and incompetent man
who was raised in an America's system of racial apartheid.
Nonetheless, in this 2009 video, Carter is clearly referring to
Barack Obama as a child who grew into a man who became president.
He is not referring to the adult Obama as "boy." -- You have to
be fair to your enemies, even someone like Jimmy Carter.
saville| 9.22.09 @ 11:49AM
Well the way I read Carter's statement was that when he used the
word "boy" he meant the "young person, Obama". In other words, he
was saying this kid, (boy) Obama grew up under thus and such
circumstances etc.
JLG| 9.22.09 @ 12:02PM
Of course you read Carter's statement in a non-racist way. In the
dubious minds of liberals it is only conservatives that are
'racist'. Does that fit your playbook? How do you know what
Carter meant?
John Franks| 9.22.09 @ 12:02PM
Carter was referring to Obama when he actually WAS a boy (during
boyhood), not referring to the man as "boy." He said
(approximately), "...this black boy who grew up to be...".
There's nothing wrong with that. The word "boy" as a racial
insult stems from referring to grown black men as "boy", as when
calling a porter or servant. Referring to someone's past boyhood,
or referring to an actual boy, with the word "boy" is hardly
racist. Please someone consider the context - and... grow up.
S.L. Toddard| 9.22.09 @ 12:12PM
Oh Lord. And I mean that literally - Oh, Mr. Lord, that's a
cheap, cynical way to score a political point. Has it been so
long since the Right held any moral high ground that they have
forgotten what an advantageous position it is?
Also, Mr. Lord, if you are ever elevated to the peerage and
become Lord Lord, I think you should go by the much cooler "Lord2
(squared)".
Anyway, you should retract this whole silly accusation. To
describe a black boy as a "black boy" is not "racist" or anything
else. The left wing PC mind police need to be eradicated, not
emulated.
Nobama| 9.22.09 @ 2:12PM
Baloney. Carter is a home-grown, old fashioned bigot from
Georgia.
Always has been. Nice try, though.
saville| 9.22.09 @ 12:10PM
Well Mr. JLG, I happen to be a Conservative who did not vote for
Obama and never would because his policies are anethema to me. I
dislike Pelosi's action/policies as well as Reid's. I think the
bulk of Republicans in Congress are NOT conservative and whenever
they ask me for money, I reply that when they start to vote like
Conservatives, then they'll get my money. Though I did contribute
to McCain's campaign as well as vote for him.
I will also say that I view some Republican's newfound
"conservatism" with a wary eye - I see it as more shifting with
the political winds than being their bedrock principles.
Having said that, it's simply the case that you are
misinterpreting Carter, this time. I don't think much of Jimmah
either. But in this case he meant - and his text clearly indicate
- he was speaking about when Obama was a boy.
Paul| 9.22.09 @ 12:11PM
I have to admit saville is right. Carter may be racist (he's
certainly anti-semetic), but this clip doesn't prove anything.
Carter was obviously referring to Obama as a child. He even
hesitated before he said it, showing he was conscious of how the
word might sound. Still an awful president though (in and out of
office).
Dulci| 9.22.09 @ 12:13PM
Yes, Carter was referring to a young Comrade O - but the point is
- if a Republican had said this - there would be a firestorm of
bile directed at said Republican and he'd be branded as a racist
evermore.
Carter, who actually IS a racist - gets a bye.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 12:18PM
Mr. Lord can speak for himself, but I believe his point is more
about what a moron the "Painted Lady" Dowd is, rather than if
Peanut-Brain was making a racist statement last year.
Jeffrey Lord| 9.22.09 @ 12:18PM
The point here is that had, say, Joe Wilson said this the move
would be on to throw him out of the House. Do we remember that
Trent Lott was drummed out of the Senate leadership because he
joked at a birthday party for the ancient Strom Thurmond that
Strom should have been president? One can even see Carter visibly
hesitate as soon as the phrase "black boy" is out of his mouth.
There is a double standard here the size of the Grand Canyon.
That would be the point.
Barbarian Heretic| 9.22.09 @ 1:49PM
Indeed. And just imagine the furor had Wilson referred to Obama
as a "clean, articulate black boy"... the mind reels.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 12:20PM
I stand corrected!
margie| 9.22.09 @ 6:43PM
Nick,
Actually, I think you were still right..
He was doing what the illustrious el Rushbo does sometimes...
"Illustrating absurdity with absurdity." or somethin' like that!
Tex Geoas| 9.22.09 @ 12:22PM
Carter actually SAID 'boy' but it didn't mean something racist.
Joe Wilson NEVER said 'boy' and Dowd made it racist. Wow... now
I'm beginning to understand the liberal mind. Kinda. Sorta.
Tex Geoas| 9.22.09 @ 12:26PM
Those of us who know better, can see Carter trying to gulp back
the (racial) word "boy" as it came out of his mouth in a MIXED
GROUP. Watch it again! Watch it again!
Elsando| 9.22.09 @ 12:37PM
I think what Wilson might have said was "You lie, boy-howdy".
Oldefarte| 9.22.09 @ 12:39PM
TYPICAL, and NOT SURPRISING, of PEANUT JIMMY FROM PLAINS!!!!
Chuck| 9.22.09 @ 1:00PM
Pointing out that Obama was a boy in the period that Carter
called him a boy misses the point entirely. He is not criticizing
Carter for using the word 'boy' to talk about Obama. The point is
that the liberal bias hears - and criticizes - Wilson for using
the word when he in fact didn't use it at all or even imply it,
but ignores Carter's actual use of the word. It is their
hypocritical double standard that is the point. Had Wilson used
the word 'boy' to refer to Obama in the same context as Carter,
White Mo would have lost her nut.
Saville| 9.22.09 @ 1:00PM
Mr. Lord - I agree with you about the double standard - and this
isn't even the best example. I refer to Mr. Byrd's use of the N
word. Nary a ripple.
Though I recently read that ambulances are racing to his home - I
wish him well.
JP| 9.22.09 @ 1:16PM
So, White Mo can imagine Rep Wilson utter, "You lie, boy!" and
get away with it; but, when Mr Lord actually finds a Democrat who
uttered it that evil word (boy), the utterance must and can be
rationalized.
Yeah, right.
Ray| 9.22.09 @ 1:17PM
Liberals will say that conservatives are taking Mistuh Carter's
(what he was called by his servants) words out of context, and
thus say that his words were not racist, while they
simultaneously hold to the belief that Joe Wilson is a racist,
even though Joe Wilson did not say "You lie, boy," but just said
"You lie" to Obama.
One need only go to Google News to see a plethora of news
articles and columns on how liberals think that the Obama Joker
posters are racist, that the word "Socialism" on the Obama Joker
posters is racist, that opposition to Obama's policies is somehow
based upon racism, and that the Tea Party people and the 9/12
marchers are racists, too. In grand paranoid fashion, liberals
see a racist under every rock and love to enagge in race baiting
for political advantage, but, alas, the race card is losing its
power - to the eternal dismay of libberhoids.
Liberals think that they get to decide who is and isn't saying
racist words or is and isn't acting in a racist manner. And they
- miraculously - give a pass to themselves and their ilk, but not
to conservatives. Who da thunk it?
Obama can engage in racial stereotyping and call his white
grandmother a "typical white person," and that's ok with
liberals. The same with Carter saying "this black boy."
Educator| 9.22.09 @ 2:00PM
After 40 years in public education, I can assure you that one
should NEVER address or reference a young African American male
as "boy". If you do, you are in peril of being labeled a rascist,
even if the child in question is a kindergartner. Such is the sad
PC environment that exists today.
Timothy L. Pennell| 9.22.09 @ 2:14PM
Of course he calls them 'BOY'. He's from the SOUTH. Everybody
down there hates Negroes. Don't they? That's all ya ever hear,
from the Democrats. When they had the South firmly in their back
pocket, none of that 'colored' stuff mattered a hill a beans.
Bull Connor? George Wallace? They were just 'throwbacks' to an
earlier place and time.
NOW, with the SOUTH pretty much a Republican stronghold,
EVERYBODY down there, is a RED NECKED CRACKER, who never saw a
COLORED that he didn't want to throw a rope around. And this is
coming from a guy that still calls Established, Successful Black
Men, 'BOY'. And he don't think nothing of it.
I wonder. Using his logic, are we supposed to extrapolate from
his unbelievable hatred of THE JEWS, that all them cousin lovin,
moonshine drinkin, 3rd grade educated, inbreds down there, hate
the JEWS too? Or is it just him? What a piece of GARBAGE.
David| 9.22.09 @ 2:35PM
The best cover for a racist, sexist, antisemite is a "I vote for
Democrats" button. You can say anything you want and it will be
spun harmless. You have to have really thick skin to be a
conservative -- you will be immediately labeled a hate mongering
shill for big business.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 3:07PM
David,
That's the biggest problem with the GOP leadership. They not only
care what these idiots say about them, some of them actually care
what they think about them.
If you, and the people you care about, know you're not a racist,
why do you care what Tom Freidman, David Broder, or Sally Quinn
think of you?
David| 9.22.09 @ 3:15PM
Because, if you engage in a candid discussion of current issues,
you will eventually be labeled and the label doesn't need factual
support.
And, because we shouldn't have to fear the label when making
public policy.
Margie| 9.22.09 @ 6:39PM
" If you, and the people you care about, know you're not a
racist, why do you care what Tom Freidman, David Broder, or Sally
Quinn think of you?"
Yep. Or Liberal Reader. Who called me the Amer. Spec's resident
bigot! lol.
Richard Baker| 9.22.09 @ 11:21AM
Next thing you know, Carter will tell one and all that he loves Nigras.
Alan B rooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:34AM
Carter:
"My ancestors hired plenty of coloreds back in the day.''
Alan Brooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:35AM
Carter:
"Colored people have always been the hardest working grunts in Georgia, on or off the plantations."
S.L. Toddard| 9.22.09 @ 11:35AM
"Congressman Joe Wilson really yell "You Lie...Boy!"
Even if that were what he said, it's not clear that it's "racist". Southerners often use "boy" as a term of endearment.
Alan Brooks| 9.22.09 @ 11:47AM
and pimps use 'ho' as a term of endearment as well.
"Ho, bring your own towel next time.
Ahm runnin' out of 'em."
Angel| 9.22.09 @ 2:08PM
If 'black boy' is a term of endearment, as you state, let's see you walk up to a young African American child and address him as such. Good luck with that, clueless honky!
Those good black folks would run you off like a scurvy dog. Ha!
andrew young| 9.22.09 @ 11:46AM
Jimmy Carter is a mean-spirited, vengeful, and incompetent man who was raised in an America's system of racial apartheid. Nonetheless, in this 2009 video, Carter is clearly referring to Barack Obama as a child who grew into a man who became president. He is not referring to the adult Obama as "boy." -- You have to be fair to your enemies, even someone like Jimmy Carter.
saville| 9.22.09 @ 11:49AM
Well the way I read Carter's statement was that when he used the word "boy" he meant the "young person, Obama". In other words, he was saying this kid, (boy) Obama grew up under thus and such circumstances etc.
JLG| 9.22.09 @ 12:02PM
Of course you read Carter's statement in a non-racist way. In the dubious minds of liberals it is only conservatives that are 'racist'. Does that fit your playbook? How do you know what Carter meant?
John Franks| 9.22.09 @ 12:02PM
Carter was referring to Obama when he actually WAS a boy (during boyhood), not referring to the man as "boy." He said (approximately), "...this black boy who grew up to be...". There's nothing wrong with that. The word "boy" as a racial insult stems from referring to grown black men as "boy", as when calling a porter or servant. Referring to someone's past boyhood, or referring to an actual boy, with the word "boy" is hardly racist. Please someone consider the context - and... grow up.
S.L. Toddard| 9.22.09 @ 12:12PM
Oh Lord. And I mean that literally - Oh, Mr. Lord, that's a cheap, cynical way to score a political point. Has it been so long since the Right held any moral high ground that they have forgotten what an advantageous position it is?
Also, Mr. Lord, if you are ever elevated to the peerage and become Lord Lord, I think you should go by the much cooler "Lord2 (squared)".
Anyway, you should retract this whole silly accusation. To describe a black boy as a "black boy" is not "racist" or anything else. The left wing PC mind police need to be eradicated, not emulated.
Nobama| 9.22.09 @ 2:12PM
Baloney. Carter is a home-grown, old fashioned bigot from Georgia.
Always has been. Nice try, though.
saville| 9.22.09 @ 12:10PM
Well Mr. JLG, I happen to be a Conservative who did not vote for Obama and never would because his policies are anethema to me. I dislike Pelosi's action/policies as well as Reid's. I think the bulk of Republicans in Congress are NOT conservative and whenever they ask me for money, I reply that when they start to vote like Conservatives, then they'll get my money. Though I did contribute to McCain's campaign as well as vote for him.
I will also say that I view some Republican's newfound "conservatism" with a wary eye - I see it as more shifting with the political winds than being their bedrock principles.
Having said that, it's simply the case that you are misinterpreting Carter, this time. I don't think much of Jimmah either. But in this case he meant - and his text clearly indicate - he was speaking about when Obama was a boy.
Paul| 9.22.09 @ 12:11PM
I have to admit saville is right. Carter may be racist (he's certainly anti-semetic), but this clip doesn't prove anything. Carter was obviously referring to Obama as a child. He even hesitated before he said it, showing he was conscious of how the word might sound. Still an awful president though (in and out of office).
Dulci| 9.22.09 @ 12:13PM
Yes, Carter was referring to a young Comrade O - but the point is - if a Republican had said this - there would be a firestorm of bile directed at said Republican and he'd be branded as a racist evermore.
Carter, who actually IS a racist - gets a bye.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 12:18PM
Mr. Lord can speak for himself, but I believe his point is more about what a moron the "Painted Lady" Dowd is, rather than if Peanut-Brain was making a racist statement last year.
Jeffrey Lord| 9.22.09 @ 12:18PM
The point here is that had, say, Joe Wilson said this the move would be on to throw him out of the House. Do we remember that Trent Lott was drummed out of the Senate leadership because he joked at a birthday party for the ancient Strom Thurmond that Strom should have been president? One can even see Carter visibly hesitate as soon as the phrase "black boy" is out of his mouth.
There is a double standard here the size of the Grand Canyon. That would be the point.
Barbarian Heretic| 9.22.09 @ 1:49PM
Indeed. And just imagine the furor had Wilson referred to Obama as a "clean, articulate black boy"... the mind reels.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 12:20PM
I stand corrected!
margie| 9.22.09 @ 6:43PM
Nick,
Actually, I think you were still right..
He was doing what the illustrious el Rushbo does sometimes... "Illustrating absurdity with absurdity." or somethin' like that!
Tex Geoas| 9.22.09 @ 12:22PM
Carter actually SAID 'boy' but it didn't mean something racist. Joe Wilson NEVER said 'boy' and Dowd made it racist. Wow... now I'm beginning to understand the liberal mind. Kinda. Sorta.
Tex Geoas| 9.22.09 @ 12:26PM
Those of us who know better, can see Carter trying to gulp back the (racial) word "boy" as it came out of his mouth in a MIXED GROUP. Watch it again! Watch it again!
Elsando| 9.22.09 @ 12:37PM
I think what Wilson might have said was "You lie, boy-howdy".
Oldefarte| 9.22.09 @ 12:39PM
TYPICAL, and NOT SURPRISING, of PEANUT JIMMY FROM PLAINS!!!!
Chuck| 9.22.09 @ 1:00PM
Pointing out that Obama was a boy in the period that Carter called him a boy misses the point entirely. He is not criticizing Carter for using the word 'boy' to talk about Obama. The point is that the liberal bias hears - and criticizes - Wilson for using the word when he in fact didn't use it at all or even imply it, but ignores Carter's actual use of the word. It is their hypocritical double standard that is the point. Had Wilson used the word 'boy' to refer to Obama in the same context as Carter, White Mo would have lost her nut.
Saville| 9.22.09 @ 1:00PM
Mr. Lord - I agree with you about the double standard - and this isn't even the best example. I refer to Mr. Byrd's use of the N word. Nary a ripple.
Though I recently read that ambulances are racing to his home - I wish him well.
JP| 9.22.09 @ 1:16PM
So, White Mo can imagine Rep Wilson utter, "You lie, boy!" and get away with it; but, when Mr Lord actually finds a Democrat who uttered it that evil word (boy), the utterance must and can be rationalized.
Yeah, right.
Ray| 9.22.09 @ 1:17PM
Liberals will say that conservatives are taking Mistuh Carter's (what he was called by his servants) words out of context, and thus say that his words were not racist, while they simultaneously hold to the belief that Joe Wilson is a racist, even though Joe Wilson did not say "You lie, boy," but just said "You lie" to Obama.
One need only go to Google News to see a plethora of news articles and columns on how liberals think that the Obama Joker posters are racist, that the word "Socialism" on the Obama Joker posters is racist, that opposition to Obama's policies is somehow based upon racism, and that the Tea Party people and the 9/12 marchers are racists, too. In grand paranoid fashion, liberals see a racist under every rock and love to enagge in race baiting for political advantage, but, alas, the race card is losing its power - to the eternal dismay of libberhoids.
Liberals think that they get to decide who is and isn't saying racist words or is and isn't acting in a racist manner. And they - miraculously - give a pass to themselves and their ilk, but not to conservatives. Who da thunk it?
Obama can engage in racial stereotyping and call his white grandmother a "typical white person," and that's ok with liberals. The same with Carter saying "this black boy."
Educator| 9.22.09 @ 2:00PM
After 40 years in public education, I can assure you that one should NEVER address or reference a young African American male as "boy". If you do, you are in peril of being labeled a rascist, even if the child in question is a kindergartner. Such is the sad PC environment that exists today.
Timothy L. Pennell| 9.22.09 @ 2:14PM
Of course he calls them 'BOY'. He's from the SOUTH. Everybody down there hates Negroes. Don't they? That's all ya ever hear, from the Democrats. When they had the South firmly in their back pocket, none of that 'colored' stuff mattered a hill a beans. Bull Connor? George Wallace? They were just 'throwbacks' to an earlier place and time.
NOW, with the SOUTH pretty much a Republican stronghold, EVERYBODY down there, is a RED NECKED CRACKER, who never saw a COLORED that he didn't want to throw a rope around. And this is coming from a guy that still calls Established, Successful Black Men, 'BOY'. And he don't think nothing of it.
I wonder. Using his logic, are we supposed to extrapolate from his unbelievable hatred of THE JEWS, that all them cousin lovin, moonshine drinkin, 3rd grade educated, inbreds down there, hate the JEWS too? Or is it just him? What a piece of GARBAGE.
David| 9.22.09 @ 2:35PM
The best cover for a racist, sexist, antisemite is a "I vote for Democrats" button. You can say anything you want and it will be spun harmless. You have to have really thick skin to be a conservative -- you will be immediately labeled a hate mongering shill for big business.
Nick| 9.22.09 @ 3:07PM
David,
That's the biggest problem with the GOP leadership. They not only care what these idiots say about them, some of them actually care what they think about them.
If you, and the people you care about, know you're not a racist, why do you care what Tom Freidman, David Broder, or Sally Quinn think of you?
David| 9.22.09 @ 3:15PM
Because, if you engage in a candid discussion of current issues, you will eventually be labeled and the label doesn't need factual support.
And, because we shouldn't have to fear the label when making public policy.
Margie| 9.22.09 @ 6:39PM
" If you, and the people you care about, know you're not a racist, why do you care what Tom Freidman, David Broder, or Sally Quinn think of you?"
Yep. Or Liberal Reader. Who called me the Amer. Spec's resident bigot! lol.