The American Spectator

Ran| 8.28.09 @ 5:23PM

"May his tortured soul rest in peace."

Mr. Vadum,
Subject to correction, I detected a remorseless sociopath driving Kennedy's words and actions. Don't project your own decency onto the miscreant. Teddy was one complete piece of work.

Marianne7| 8.28.09 @ 5:29PM

That was not "a form of treason". It was treason, double, straight-up.

Marc Jeric| 8.28.09 @ 6:43PM

Ted Kennedy started his "career" by being thrown out from Harvard for cheating - he paid others to take his exams. After that his career went seriously downward.

Liberal Reader| 8.28.09 @ 7:40PM

Check out this clip of Glenn Beck!

It's conservative talk -- at its finest!

Oh -- about Vadum's piece. It's nonsense.

Liberal Reader| 8.28.09 @ 7:46PM

I'll pray for Kennedy, and for his troubled soul.

But why isn't anyone pointing out the obvious?

He was a traitor to his country!

He was a secret agent for the Soviets, and he was a Muslim terrorist -- in addition to being a bagman for the IRA!!!

Like Obama, he was a racist. Like Nancy Pelosi, he was a Nazi.

A Nazi?

Yes. A Nazi.

He was also a monarchist. And he worshiped Shiva.

He belonged to the Legion of Doom. Every saturday morning he gathered there with Lex Luther, Bizarro, Brainiac, and all the rest of those evil doers who think America is so imperfect, that they pal around with terrorists!

He was also the Founder and General Manager of the first public death panel. He is personally responsible for the execution of dozens of elderly and infirm people.

He was the perpetrator of one of the first school shootings, and as a Democrat participated in dozens of lynchings.

And the liberal press is just fawning over him!

Sooner or later, the tree of liberty will need to be watered!!!

Liberal Reader| 8.28.09 @ 8:04PM

And ..

"I will tell you how you can save your Republic -- tomorrow."

Alan Brooks| 8.28.09 @ 9:50PM

it isn't surprising Teddy boy is being toasted (at Cheers) in death, Yet it is literally fantastic he is depicted as a role model and hero. He was worse than Nixon, but at least he was better than LBJ-- let's give the guy his due!

It's not fair to say we hate Ted either, or ever did hate him. Most writers and commenters at AS do not gnash their teeth when thinking of Ted; they have families and carreers, Ted is-- was-- a small part of the cosmos.

What irks me is I can remember the summer of '69 like it was yesterday; Apollo 11; the Mets. It wasn't the summer of Joe Namath, but he dominated the year in sports, IMO.
But 40 years later libs still don't get it that though Ted wasn't a particularly evil person, he wasn't a good person either. Ted was great. But so was Nixon.
'Great' as in important.

Video Savant| 8.28.09 @ 10:16PM

What we already know about Ted Kennedy qualifies him as a scumbag louse.

But if anything close to what came out after the death of JFK comes out about the Chappaquiddick PT Boat Commander, he and his entire career will be forever discredited.

This is probably as good as it gets for the Ted Kennedy faithful.

Robbins Mitchell| 8.28.09 @ 10:44PM

Is Nazi Joe's last big mistake still dead?

Bob K.| 8.28.09 @ 10:55PM

He was his father's son and as the saying goes: "Rats don't have mice!"

David H| 8.28.09 @ 11:09PM

I love how Liberal Reader can't even come close to excusing or defending what Teddy did. Oh wait, it's "nonsense." OK, then, that's all I need.

Liberal Reader| 8.28.09 @ 11:35PM

David H --

Excuse or defend?

It's not what men do in the hours after someone dies.

If you weren't a shitbird trapped in a monkey cage, you'd know it.

Anyway, I don't think he needs my defense or anyone's.

That's just not how life works, bud. You need to grow the fuck up.

Does your conscience bother you?

Steve| 8.28.09 @ 11:55PM

I wish I felt worse about this "person's" death. I rather feel like an abscess has been lanced, and that it is a good start. Such evil in power. Yet I struggle to refrain from judgement.

Mike Lee| 8.29.09 @ 12:00AM

Joe was a defeatist in regards to the Nazi's and felt that the Jews got what was coming to them. Teddy was a defeatist in regards to the Evil Empire. Like father like son.

Lois| 8.29.09 @ 12:23AM

It always astonishes me that when a liberal is faced
down even by a hair, the language from that person
turns to vulgarities and obscenities in the name of
free speech. Sad.

Liberal Reader| 8.29.09 @ 12:29AM

Mike Lee --

Jesus Christ, Mike. Are you a Republican? Do you understand that Joe was one of millions of people who favored isolationism in the 30s? That this view was championed by the Republican party?

And yes, Joe was evidently anti-Semitic, which is one of the ugliest social pathologies known to me. Remember, however, he grew up in the world before the Holocaust, so like many, many Americans he did not yet know the evils such ideas could do.

In the end, the taboo against speaking ill of the dead doesn't extend forever, obviously. The decent thing to do is see if you can't control yourself until the body is in the ground and the ceremony is past.

The reason?

Well -- I'm glad you asked. It shows you have considerably more intellectual curiosity than I would have thought.

The reason actually has NOTHING to do with Kennedy himself, or his family.

Disturbing burial disrupts the process of acknowledging death and rejoining life that people go through when someone dies. The living and the dead keep a pact; it's important to observe it.

As I said yesterday, no one can blame a conservative for opposing Ted Kennedy. He was indeed a liberal; he was no moderate; he was no compromiser. You should oppose him, if that's the way you see things. But Jesus, man, you should try to find something good to say -- not snarky good -- or just let it go.

Johnno| 8.29.09 @ 12:37AM

A good "Catholic" doesn't take the names "Jesus" or "Christ" in vain.

Especially when the amoral A-Hole is only doing it for shock value.

Jeremiah, you're a particularly nasty smelling abscess that needs to be lanced.

Liberal Reader| 8.29.09 @ 12:45AM

Lois --

The obscenity is in the reactionary neo-fascist hatred that is propagated on this website.

That's much more goddamn profane than anything I've said.

You guys worry about profanity like children.

Sometimes only the gut will do.

James Stone,| 8.29.09 @ 1:55AM

The people of Afghanistan will decide in the end. They know that like the British and the Russians before them, eventually the Americans will leave defeated by the will and pride of the people, and terrain of the country.

KevlarKevin| 8.29.09 @ 4:05AM

Liberal Reader is a liberal fascist who is starved for attention. Maybe his mommy did not breast feed him or maybe he's just making up for having a small weewee (my new favorite word since TOTUS used it). No matter what evidence is presented of Ted the Swimmer's sedition Liberal Reader will keep on defending the Dead Kennedy who is now burning in hell. May Teddy the lardassed sicko pervert and murderer suffer an eternity of torments.

ConservativeWanderer| 8.29.09 @ 8:06AM

Jeremiah:

Excuse or defend?

It's not what men do in the hours after someone dies.

One also doesn't use the recently deceased as a political pawn to try to get legislation passed before the corpse is decently buried.

Except that's just what your comrades on the left have done with the late Mr. Kennedy. In fact, they barely waited till his internal organs had assumed room temperature!

Given that treatment by his and your allies, Jeremiah, I really don't think you have any standing to come here and whine about us saying a few hard truths about the man.

Maybe--maybe--if you decried the way those of you on the left have been abusing a man who--I remind you--isn't even buried yet, you might have some standing to complain about some of the coverage here. But we all know very well that you'll never criticize your own side--you're far too immature to have the kind of honor that permits--compels, even--one to admit his own side does something stupid and/or wrong.

In short, remove the plank from your and your party's own eyes before you go complaining about the motes in ours.

Liberal Reader| 8.29.09 @ 10:14AM

Wanderer --

I do very little but criticize my own side. Sure, sometimes I show up here and point out the debasement of political discourse among an increasingly hateful reactionary fringe, but it's only with the left that I engage in philosophical debate.

Now, health care legislation (and I know you guys don't read newspapers so I'll just fill you in) is presently moving through the Congress.

(The Congress is the legislative branch of government.)

Kennedy worked on that legislation for a year; the cause it represents animated his entire political career of more than 45 years. The notion that somehow Democrats could remember his life and not connect it with actual domestic policy is just stupid.

It's stupid.

At Reagan's funeral we heard about his conservative causes, as well we should have. Kennedy was a politician; he did have political beliefs; those believes are celebrated today AND they are carried into the work, and rightly so.

And by the way: what makes you think we give a damn how you think we should mourn the passing of a Kennedy.

I'm typing in a thread right now that claims he was a traitor to his country!

Why WOULD we listen to you?

You don't even know what the hell you're talking about half the time.

So screw you, brother. Tell it to the judge.

Solo| 8.29.09 @ 12:07PM

You know...

I've been watching the Kennedy Funeral Mass on TV and it suddenly struck me that; with all those politicians crammed into that Church, it's a wonder in itself that the Altar doesn't burst into flames consuming the Priests with it and blood would start shooting from the eyes of the statue of The Blessed Virgin!

But...I'm beginning to have a change of heart about Teddy's passing. In a gesture of Christian fellowship (and in deference to Liberal Reader's gentile sensibilities) I'm going to offer a humble prayer for Mr. Kennedy's redemption.

Heck...and while I'm at it (given that I'm feeling so generous of spirit), I'm going to offer a prayer for the redemption of Adolf and "Good Ole Uncle Joe" , too (as FDR referred to him).

There.....I feel better already!

:)

Jim Zerga| 8.29.09 @ 12:50PM

Most writers have the essential component of the Kennedy-Chappaquiddick saga wrong. The knee-jerk Kennedy haters call him a "murderer". The facts indicate otherwise. Murder ~ NO! Manslaughter ~ perhaps YES!

Mary Jo Kopechne did NOT drown. She in fact suffocated. The woman perished while trapped in the submerged Oldsmobile sedan while under water in a dark tidal pond. It was long ago figured that Kopechne survived for at least an hour or more after the crash by breathing from an air pocket. No matter how it’s sliced, that has to be a tough way to die.

With a little detective work it has been figured that the real Chappaquiddick story was fundamentally different from the extensive lie promoted by Kennedy himself. Facts strongly suggest that Kopechne disappeared from the party at an earlier time. She’d mentioned to more than one person that cigarette smoke and the stuffy atmosphere at the cottage were making her feel ill. It was figured that Mary Jo Kopechne after making her way outside, found the unlocked Oldsmobile 4-door sedan, laid down across the back seat and fell asleep. There was no conspiracy or plot involved. It was a matter of simple happenstance.

Later that night, the routinely drunk Teddy Kennedy left the party with another woman, got behind the wheel of the Oldsmobile and aimed the car in the direction of the beach road. Kennedy, with one other person in the front and another laying down on the back seat only made it as far as the narrow Dike Bridge. With his driving skills impaired, Kennedy lost control and drove the car off the bridge and into the Chappaquiddick - Poucha tidal pond.

Perhaps it was the cold ocean water that helped Kennedy sober up enough to escape along with the mystery woman front seat passenger. It is believed that Kennedy did not know that another person was in that car. Kennedy made it back on foot to some point where he was able to make contact with his political minions. Somehow, the operatives got him over to the main island of Martha’s Vineyard, where Kennedy was checked into a motel. Records later showed that numerous phone calls were made back and forth from Kennedy’s room telephone all during the night. He was later seen, in the early morning, having breakfast at the motel coffee shop while casually chatting with other guests.

Meanwhile, local police had discovered in the tidal pond, the now partially exposed Oldsmobile sedan. Upon closer examination, the body of a young woman was found in a corner area near the rear window. Artificial respiration was carried out, but Mary Jo Kopechne could not be revived. Noticed at the time, was that no water could found in the woman’s lungs. Early on, it was figured that Kopechne had not drowned but instead had suffocated. Despite Massachusetts state law in such a case, no autopsy was ever performed on Mary Jo Kopechne’s body to discover the true cause of death.

Kennedy’s later contrived story had him at the risk of his own life “diving repeatedly in an effort to save Miss Kopechne”. At the time, innumerable Massachusetts residents, including me, were outraged. Political stooges had taken depraved actions of the drunk miscreant Teddy Kennedy and spun the homicidal debacle into a performance of heroism.

Despite all, the contemptible Teddy Kennedy was elected again and again to the United States Senate by the people of Massachusetts. To this day, I have been unable to find anybody who even admits to having voted for Kennedy. In life and now death Theodore Edward Kennedy was on every level, a despicable human being. Hopefully through the sobering light of time, the actual facts will be accurately weighed.

In the meantime, the entire federal election system along with congress and senate requires a good strong enema. This nation needs to return to an operation of a true representative republic operated on actual democratic principle. Perhaps with Kennedy’s final flush through the sewer pipe of history, that much needed cleansing can now begin.

ConservativeWanderer| 8.29.09 @ 12:59PM

Jeremiah:

I do very little but criticize my own side.

Let's see the proof, you sanctimonious hypocrite. I want links to where and when you've criticized your beloved Obamacrats and His Obamaness.

Until then, you've done nothing to disprove my charges. Simply declaring something doesn't make it true, either for your beloved Barack or for you!

Mary Louise| 8.29.09 @ 1:55PM

This is a great piece from our man Flynn. Via the intrepid, fair, consistent and honest Stacey McCain.

Excerpt:

***“The election of such a man to the United States Senate in 1962 struck many, particularly the liberals who would grow to lionize Ted Kennedy, as a bad joke. Theologian Reinhold Niebuhr dubbed the youngest Kennedy son’s bid for office “an affront to political decency.” Washington Post columnist Mary McGrory said the trick in discussing the neophyte’s senate run was “to keep an absolutely straight face.” Prof. Mark De Wolfe Howe of Harvard Law School, a sometime advisor to John F. Kennedy, found the youngest Kennedy’s candidacy “preposterous and insulting.” But the pedigree of the 30-year-old kid brother of the President bested that of Edward McCormack, the nephew of the Speaker of the House, in the Democratic primary. And then in the general election, the pedigree defeated George Cabot Lodge’s, whose father, great-grandfather, and great-great-great-great-grandfather had sat in that Senate seat, and that of Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes’s grandson, H. Stuart Hughes, who ran as an independent “peace” candidate. All of this left an exasperated New York Times to declare, “The victory for Edward Kennedy is demeaning to the dignity of the Senate and the democratic process.”***

Kennedy was a somebody who was really a nobody. The firefighters and police officers who knew they would die as they made their last confessions and entered burning and collapsing buildings are people who are nobody but really somebody. Had you found that any one of them were adulterers then that would be churlish to bring up after death after their one-on-one ultimate sacrifice and tremendous charity covered a multitude of sins.

Mark Steyn has a great piece too, and in his inimitable style he tells us what a honorable man would and did do.

***“We are all flawed, and most of us are weak, and in hellish moments, at a split-second’s notice, confronting the choice that will define us ever after, many of us will fail the test. Perhaps Mary Jo could have been saved; perhaps she would have died anyway. What is true is that Edward Kennedy made her death a certainty. When a man (if you’ll forgive the expression) confronts the truth of what he has done, what does honor require? Six years before Chappaquiddick, in the wake of Britain’s comparatively very minor “Profumo scandal,” the eponymous John Profumo, Her Majesty’s Secretary of State for War, resigned from the House of Commons and the Queen’s Privy Council, and disappeared amid the tenements of the East End to do good works washing dishes and helping with children’s playgroups, in anonymity, for the last 40 years of his life. With the exception of one newspaper article to mark the centenary of his charitable mission, he never uttered another word in public again.”***

The reason my mind goes to Liddy so easily with respect to EMK, is that Liddy committed a crime. He served his time. He did not lie under oath. He worked, using his background as an attorney to gain concessions and secure what he thought were rights for his fellow convicts. He was jailed in the Federal Penitentiary in Washington that had not been refurbished since reconstruction. He always referred to himself as a convict; rejecting the soft-spun linguistic treachery of "inmate."

Blurring the distinction between true heroism and honor is what you can’t let liberal lionizers do. No matter how much they gnash and wail; that’s SOP for them. Like the antics of capricious children, you should pay it absolutely no mind.

Had Edward Kennedy been worthy of respect he would have done what Profumo or Liddy did. His fans can’t convince anyone that he was an honorable man who made up for his past through the power of his seat in the Senate.

There isn’t any sin in recalling the man’s life. There isn’t even any sin thinking he might be in hell, if you believe in hell. The sin would be to hope that he is in hell. I don’t pray for his soul, and I don’t pray against it. God is not transactional; vengeance, eternal banishment, are all His Territory and Right.

I quote the great Swiss patriot Zwingli here:

“Lord I am thy vessel, to make or break altogether!”

Mary Louise| 8.29.09 @ 1:57PM

I couldn't post the Steyn link, system said two links was all that was allowed. So, here it is.

ClashWho| 8.29.09 @ 1:58PM

James Stone: Are you so clueless as to think rule by the Taliban is the will and pride of the Afghanistan people? The Americans are fighting to take the country back from the Taliban for the Afghanistan people.

Solo| 8.29.09 @ 2:00PM

Conservative Wanderer Wrote:

" Jeremiah:

I do very little but criticize my own side.

Let's see the proof, you sanctimonious hypocrite. I want links to where and when you've criticized your beloved Obamacrats and His Obamaness.

Until then, you've done nothing to disprove my charges. Simply declaring something doesn't make it true, either for your beloved Barack or for you"

"Proof"? You're expecting proof?

I'm still flabbergasted at the revelation that Liberal Reader thinks he's having "philosophical debate" with his fellow kool-aid drinkers. LOL!

Hey Liberal Reader....I have a question that you can ponder with your fellow "philosophers":

Without tip-toeing into the minefield of metaphysical dualism, can you define more than one starting point for human life that is objectively true?

This ought to be good!

ConservativeWanderer| 8.29.09 @ 2:10PM

Solo:

"Proof"? You're expecting proof?

No, I am expecting him to spin so much that I could power Las Vegas if I stuck him in a generator.

However, his lack of proof will demonstrate beyond all doubt that he is nothing but a vile liar. Prove it again, in fact.

ClashWho| 8.29.09 @ 2:19PM

Jim Zerga: The idea that Ted Kennedy didn't know Mary Jo Kopechne was in the car is preposterous. The idea that Mary Jo Kopechne decided to go to sleep in an unlocked car in the parking lot is also preposterous. It's obvious that Ted didn't call the police because he didn't want to be busted for drunk driving. So he left the scene and let the woman die. That could easily be considered an intentional homicide. It's obviously at least a case of manslaughter and it's disgraceful that Ted got away with it.

Liberal Reader| 8.29.09 @ 3:03PM

Mary Louise,

Doubtless I'm not worthy to address someone so infinitely remote from fallen nature as yourself; doubtless you are holy and goodness will die with you.

But I dare to approach. Willing to admit that Kennedy must be the worst sinner in the history of the Catholic Church, I still question the resolute judgment you and the rest of the Pope's Panel of Purity, Pomposity, and Prudishness feel so comfortable handing down onto one of the departed.

The Church prays for the dead and the living, and today it buries Kennedy with a sacred rite. To the faithful, this is not really just about Kennedy. It's about the community of the living.

So while I appreciate the remonstrances and proclamations of you and the wise men with whom you post here, and while I humbly defer to your infinite authority in all faith matters, temporal and spiritual, and while I feel you must be right, since cite so many men whose acumen and deep learning surpasses my own in so many ways, I wonder if there is no room in religion for Ted Kennedy, who heard mass two or three times a week throughout his life and attended confession regularly -- including in the days before he received last rites.

Liberal Reader| 8.29.09 @ 3:07PM

Wanderer --

I post at the New York Times various online threads under my own name. I do not post here under my own name because I think many people -- not you -- are real wing nuts and even prone to violence. The next Oklahoma City bombers are people who thrill to the words that Democrats are "Nazis" or fascists and that tyranny is come to America.

ConservativeWanderer| 8.29.09 @ 3:23PM

Jeremiah.

As I said... mere assertions are not proof, no matter how much you and your secular savior Obama want to make them so.

You've shown no proof, therefore you are--once again--shown to be a sanctimonious, hypocritical, liar!

Nobama| 8.29.09 @ 3:38PM

Jeremiah, Marcel, Tom Paine, Leo, Liberal Reader, Rolfey, etc., (I know there are more names but I don't care enough to make an effort to remember them all): You DON'T post under you REAL name at AmSpec? Really? We had no idea.

I do have to laugh, though: Since you were outed, you don't even try to change your name after another F-Bomb orgy. Pissant.

Mary Louise| 8.29.09 @ 3:56PM

Jeremiah,

First of all, I don't speak for the Roman Catholic church. I'm a self-excommunicated apostate. My Zwingli quote should have discouraged you from making that part of your argument.

I wrote to you on another thread that I could easily be separated from God once I die. And there was no false modesty involved. I'll also add that when those who knew me recall my past, they will remark. They will have every reason to remark. And I would encourage them to do so from the other side, if I could. What I did that was evil should be remembered and remarked. If I helped anyone, one-on-one, sister to brother and that's remembered, that's good too. But those aren't things people talk about in the community of the living. They just do them. Kennedy can't be separated from his world of politics because politics is like a rhizome, and the community of the living apparent to all as single, dignified strands. If the good I did is interred with my bones, it will be fitting and just. Honesty is not something you understand, Jeremiah, and mores the pity.

The reason you should be wary of approaching is that you're a disingenuous, miserable sort of person. You may be ill, I've thought of that. Maybe you're bi-polar. Maybe you drink. Your antics here reveal something is wrong with you.

But back to the points you raise. There's room in religion for truth and for not hoping for the demise and damnation of anyone. And there's room for letting sleeping dogs lie. No reference to EMK as dog here, just an expression whose equivalent I can't formulate right now.

In my old Catechism it's written that I may wish someone dead if I believe his or her death would alter circumstances and return a much needed peace. I'm paraphrasing. Best example of this would be Bin Laden. I agree with the Old Catechism. What the new one says, I can't speak to. It might not address such a matter at all.

For your own edification, one doesn't hear the Mass, one prays it. And I don't know what attending two or three times a week means, or if it means anything. There are probably many people who are at heart agnostic who attend Mass frequently.

Sometimes I think you might be agnostic or an atheist altogether. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against honest atheists. I have a Buddhist friend who lost 2 children tragically and he is one of the bravest, kindest people I know. In effect, he does not say "why me?" He says "why not me?" Buddhism is no religion, it's a philosophy. You take and use Jesus's name as if means nothing.

Perhaps you hold on to the faith because it's something you've fashioned as a substantial aid to your views on social justice, and one that has roots far more impressive than anything secular being held onto, in name, by your party.

I asked you not to play any games with me. And I'm going to continue to do that. You called me a Nazi and a racist; I never called you or anyone else here any such thing.

And the only reason I care and continue to bring it up is to illustrate how much you are divorced from reality, and how much you are a product of that modern liberalism that can and does elevate and pay obeisance to the collective, but cares not a whit about the individual.

I never approached you, you always approached me. I don't approach many others either because I'm not here to play the schoolmarm.

Your side is exploiting the Senator's death for political gain. Had he done some soul-searching, evident to all, he wouldn't be held in such low regard by so many people. Again, see Liddy and Profumo.

You're in as much judgment mode here as anyone else. I don't respect your intellect or your opinion enough for your lack of regard for me and my fellow conservatives to matter. And I don't mind the occasional expletive; sometimes you can't get a better punctuation mark. Even though I'm quite sure it doesn't matter to you, nothing is going to change on my end until I see that your faith is not a bad one.

I don't wish you ill, and this is my last response to you because I only have so much time to spend here at Amspec and I'm afraid that we'll always talk past each other. That's an enormous waste of effort and energy.

You don't seem to have the Peace of the Lord. And I sincerly wish it for you because it'll make you a happier person.

Sue Zento| 8.29.09 @ 5:59PM

This is complete bullshit. Have none of you heard of Soviet disinformation. Check your facts folks. Big red (not surprising) flag is that the attribution is off. Tim Sebastian was not a correspondent for the London Times - he was a distinguished BBC Correspondent for many years before becoming an author and host of Hardtalk, the BBC's flagship interview program.

SoCon| 8.30.09 @ 2:59AM

Mary Louise, LR is a cynic. I believe he's an astroturf troll whose assignment is to blog at this particular Conservative web site. It's also possible that more than one troll writes under his handle.

Axelrod created astroturfing and used it to spread lies and dis-information about Hillary during the democrat primary. LR is a propagandist, a chameleon--he'll be anything you want him to be if it will help sow doubt and confusion.

I agree with you regarding his mental illness, though: Only a sick individual would deliberately lie to his fellow countrymen for subversive purposes. He's a marxist true believer, an ideologue; and I have nothing but contempt for him.

Like his hero, Teddy Kennedy, LR/Jeremiah could also be a sociopath; and like his hero, he's a swine.

Zerga| 8.30.09 @ 12:26PM

Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down through the sewer pipe of history

Most writers and provocateurs have the essential component of the Kennedy-Chappaquiddick fiasco all wrong. Mary Jo Kopechne did NOT drown. She in fact suffocated. The woman perished while trapped in the submerged Oldsmobile sedan under water in a pitch black tidal pond. It was long ago figured that Kopechne survived for at least an hour or more after the crash by breathing from an air pocket. No matter how it’s sliced, that has to be a tough way to die.

With a little detective work it has been figured that the real Chappaquiddick story was fundamentally different from the extensive lie promoted by Kennedy himself. Facts strongly suggest that Kopechne disappeared from the party at an earlier time. She’d mentioned to more than one person that cigarette smoke and the stuffy atmosphere at the cottage were making her feel ill. It was figured that Mary Jo Kopechne after making her way outside, found the unlocked Oldsmobile 4-door sedan, laid down across the back seat and fell asleep. There was no conspiracy or plot involved. It was a matter of simple happenstance.

Later that night, the routinely drunk Teddy Kennedy left the party with another woman, got behind the wheel of the Oldsmobile and aimed the car in the direction of the beach road. Kennedy, with one other person in the front and another laying down on the back seat only made it as far as the narrow Dike Bridge. With his driving skills impaired, Kennedy lost control and drove the car off the bridge and into the Chappaquiddick - Poucha tidal pond.

Perhaps it was the cold ocean water that helped Kennedy sober up enough to escape along with the front seat passenger. It is believed that at the time, Kennedy did not know that another person was in the back seat of the car. He made it back on foot to a point where contact was made with political minions. Somehow, the operatives got Kennedy over to the main island of Martha’s Vineyard, where he was checked into a motel. Records later showed that numerous phone calls were made to and from Kennedy’s room telephone during the night. He was later seen, in the early morning, having breakfast at the restaurant while casually chatting with other guests.

Meanwhile, sometime after dawn with the receding tide, police discovered a partially exposed Oldsmobile sedan next to the bridge. Upon closer examination, the body of a young woman was found in a corner area near the rear window of the car. Artificial respiration, as it was known then, was carried out, but Mary Jo Kopechne could not be revived. Noticed at the time, was that no water could be found in the woman’s lungs. Early on, it was figured that Kopechne had not drowned but instead had suffocated. Despite Massachusetts state law in such a case, no autopsy was ever performed on Mary Jo Kopechne’s body to discover the true cause of death.

Kennedy’s later contrived story had him at the risk of his own life “diving repeatedly in an effort to save Miss Kopechne”. At the time, innumerable Massachusetts residents, including me, were outraged. Political stooges had taken depraved actions of the drunk miscreant Teddy Kennedy and spun the homicidal debacle into a performance of heroism.

Despite all, the contemptible Kennedy was elected again and again to the United States Senate by the people of Massachusetts. To this day, I have been unable to find anybody who even admits to having voted for Kennedy. In life and now death Theodore Edward Kennedy was on every level a despicable human being.

If there is one bit of justice to be found in the Chappaquiddick debacle, it is that Kennedy has been forever trapped by his own colossal cover up story lie. For political expediency in the immediate aftermath through his public statement of perjury, Kennedy for all time glued himself into place as the true reason for Kopechne’s death.

Maybe sometime soon, the other woman passenger and witness that night will come forward. It may then be explained that both she and Kennedy had no idea that another person was down in the back seat of that car. Simple fact is that Mary Jo Kopechne perished in tragic accident as an occupant of an automobile driven by a well known habitual drunk. A series of perhaps greater offenses was committed after-the-fact by Kennedy who filed false police reports and fabricated a festival of colossal lies. Truth is, in connection with the Chappaquiddick incident, he perpetrated a cluster of criminal acts. There is no doubt that Teddy Kennedy should have spent forty-seven years in state prison instead of seated within the United States senate.

With that said, the entire federal election system along with congress and senate greatly needs a good strong enema. This nation has to return to the procedures of a true representative republic operated on genuine democratic principles. Perhaps with Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down through the sewer pipe of history, a much needed cleansing can now begin.

ConservativeWanderer| 8.30.09 @ 12:59PM

Someone tell the Zerga-bot that it's already posted that screed in this thread, please?

Zerga| 8.30.09 @ 8:50PM

Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down through the sewer pipe of history.

Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down through the sewer pipe of history.

Teddy Kennedy’s final flush down through the sewer pipe of history.

Marie Anne| 9.2.09 @ 8:33AM

I'm tired of people treating the dead like saints, simply because they've died. My article about that very thing is in the website above.

It deserves to be investigated and proved/disproved, and not swept under the rug so that the Kennedy name isn't tarnished further.

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