I understand what Jonah Goldberg is getting at
here -- that despite the controversies about torture
allegations, popular culture suggests that most Americans don't
instinctively mind rough stuff being done to bad guys. But there
are some important qualifications here. In a TV show or movie,
the audience "knows" to a moral certainty that the person being
dealt with harshly is guilty. And the audience usually "knows"
that the torture is preventing some forseeable evil. Neither of
those things are always known in the real world.