One of the regulars on Bill O'Reilly's show is Dr. Marc Lamont
Hill, who will be joining Columbia University's faculty this
fall.
An amiable liberal, Dr. Hill is always earnest and occasionally
provocative with his take on things racial. While his
sparring with O'Reilly is frequently interesting, and Hill is
doubtless a smart guy, when he makes as many factual errors in
one night as he did last night discussing a Specter health care
reform town meeting in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, he should be called
out.
Dr. Hill apparently attended Specter's meeting (I was
outside talking to the crowd, Hill was inside). In discussing
this with O'Reilly he made three factual errors, using his
mistakes to attribute racism to the crowd. This is wrong.
Mistake # 1: Apparently there were "birthers" in the Specter
crowd, those who have this thing about questioning Obama's
legitimacy to be president based on his supposed birth not in
Hawaii but outside the U.S. Dr. Hill than laid this at the feet
of racism, saying that such an allegation only pops up against
the nation's lone black president.
This is not true. Chester Alan Arthur, the nation's 21st
president, was born (so it was insisted) in Vermont. In fact his
father owned a farm some fifteen miles over the border in Canada.
When Arthur ran as James Garfield's running-mate in 1880, a New
York lawyer named Arthur Hinman was hired by Democrats to
investigate. Hinman claimed Arthur came to America from Ireland
when he was fourteen, and hence was not eligible to be on a
presidential ticket. When this proved to be a political
non-starter, the allegation was changed to say he was born in
Canada. As with Obama, the allegations were dismissed after
investigation by reporters of the day. Still, they were made
repeatedly. Hinman would go on to publish a book
entitled, How A British Subject Became President of the
United States.
So Obama is in fact not the first president to face this
treatment, and Arthur was your basic portly white guy Republican.
The allegations Hill says he heard in Lebanon were not unique and
not racial.
Mistake #2: Hill attributed the age of the protesters -- in their
70s and 80s -- and the fact that "30 or 40 years ago" they were
voting Republican as a sign of racism. This is stunningly bad
history.
Lebanon is a solidly Republican area. It is that because Central
Pennsylvania was a huge source of support for Abraham Lincoln,
the Republican Party of which he is viewed in these parts as the
founding father -- and which was decidedly pro-civil rights.
Indeed, during the 1960s, the two prominent Republicans in
Pennsylvania -- U.S. Senator Hugh Scott and Governor William
Scranton -- were huge liberal Republican supporters of civil
rights and both very popular in Central Pennsylvania. To impute
racism to people who would have been among their strongest
supporters and who voted Republican because they self-identified
with Lincoln is egregiously bad Pennsylvania history. Dr. Hill
should know better.
Mistake # 3: Dr. Hill was upset because people in the Specter
meeting referred to President Obama as "that guy" or "that man."
Surely Hill should know that Franklin Roosevelt's critics
famously referred to him derisively as "that man in the White
House."
If Obama supporters want to tout the President as another FDR, it
is silly to attribute precisely the same kind of criticism FDR
received, right down to the derogatory nickname, as something
racial. It is, in its own uniquely American fashion, extremely
presidential.
Here's hoping Dr. Hill cracks the books a bit more before he says
things like this on O'Reilly.
I saw that show last night and I am happy for the corrections. I
hope O'Reilly reports on them. I thought he handled Dr. Hill
pretty well. The guy is so biased, he can't think straight. It
makes him look like a clown, much like Geraldo talking about
illegal immigration.
Ammo Guy| 8.19.09 @ 2:14PM
I’ve seen Hill on many programs and he can’t help but view life
thru his racially tinged viewing glass. He reminds me of the
Woody Allen character in Annie Hall who saw anti-Semitism behind
every remark or situation…save for the fact that Hill is not even
remotely funny, except as a caricature. I know Columbia is
delighted to have him, but I’m sure that every pale student in
his class will have to toe the party line in order to get a good
grade.
Michelle| 8.19.09 @ 2:38PM
Hill may be an amiable liberal but he lies through his smiles.
The faster he speaks the more he lies: It's so annoying I tune
him out.
Nobama| 8.19.09 @ 2:42PM
Pete--you're right! Geraldo does look like a clown when he's
talking about ILLEGAL immigration. I thought he was going to
throw a chair at O'Reilly during one of their 'discussions'.
Oldefarte| 8.19.09 @ 2:59PM
All Americans with 'COMMON SENSE' know [or should] that blacks
and liberals use the words RACISM, DISENFRANCHISEMENT,
DISCRIMINATION, GENTRIFICATION, etc as 'one word'
labeling/branding because their ususally too stupid to
rationally/logically argue their inarguable positions. To attempt
to provide reasoning to their words is ludicrous--------you just
have to accept them as lunacy!!!!!
Mr. Hill was so far off base last night . . . I also was at the
town meeting in Lebanon and the crowd was mixed: young/old;
male/female; and many races. I heard no talk of anyone's race.
People were talking about the government taking over the health
care, and spending like there is no end to our money. We
understood "those people" to mean our representatives and
president. We do not trust "those people!" - with our money and
even less with our health care. There is nothing racial about any
of this!
curmudgeon| 8.20.09 @ 6:45AM
"Lamont" is an anthropologist of education, whatever that means.
In all likelihood, that means he's an absolute ignoramus. But no
doubt that's a racist observation.
Your Majesty| 8.20.09 @ 9:45AM
If Obama birthers are racist, then are Trig Palin birthers
sexist?
One additional point about Central PA: the region's Republicanism
is, in no small part, also a decades-long reaction to the corrupt
Democrat machines of Philly and Pittsburgh. PA's large cities
have soaked its rural areas for longer than Obama has been alive
-- and often to line the pockets of big-city pols. (Perhaps Dr.
Hill believes farmers are racist for thinking Philly state
senator Vince Fumo's recent conviction was long overdue.)
The good folks of Central PA rightfully resent being soaked and
suspect that more government means they'll have to bend over yet
again.
I watched the show and I came away with the same thing. I thought
he blabbed most of the segment and did not come with any facts.
He referred to racism like it was going out of style. There is no
way every claim he can blame racism and hate on Obama. The fact
is this is a topic that people are passionate about and will get
riled up. Dr Hill wow.....
Tomi Johnson| 8.22.09 @ 2:03AM
In 2000, the racial makeup of Lebanon, PA was 85.50% White, 3.23%
African American, 0.28% Native American, 1.02% Asian, 0.10%
Pacific Islander, 8.11% from other races, and 1.76% from two or
more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 16.43% of the
population. I would have to go to the town to see if folks there
are racist or not and would have to examine who is in leadership
roles and also who runs the newspaper, chamber of commerce,
school board, etc. As far as racism in America goes, whites are
trying to blame blacks for pulling the race card and using
reverse discrimination to turn away from civil/human rights. In
my opinion, the US will never be post-racial because of its
history and institutional hierarchy. What we have to do is try to
respect everyone and honor MLK more that paying lip service to
equality.
Pete| 8.19.09 @ 1:19PM
I saw that show last night and I am happy for the corrections. I hope O'Reilly reports on them. I thought he handled Dr. Hill pretty well. The guy is so biased, he can't think straight. It makes him look like a clown, much like Geraldo talking about illegal immigration.
Ammo Guy| 8.19.09 @ 2:14PM
I’ve seen Hill on many programs and he can’t help but view life thru his racially tinged viewing glass. He reminds me of the Woody Allen character in Annie Hall who saw anti-Semitism behind every remark or situation…save for the fact that Hill is not even remotely funny, except as a caricature. I know Columbia is delighted to have him, but I’m sure that every pale student in his class will have to toe the party line in order to get a good grade.
Michelle| 8.19.09 @ 2:38PM
Hill may be an amiable liberal but he lies through his smiles. The faster he speaks the more he lies: It's so annoying I tune him out.
Nobama| 8.19.09 @ 2:42PM
Pete--you're right! Geraldo does look like a clown when he's talking about ILLEGAL immigration. I thought he was going to throw a chair at O'Reilly during one of their 'discussions'.
Oldefarte| 8.19.09 @ 2:59PM
All Americans with 'COMMON SENSE' know [or should] that blacks and liberals use the words RACISM, DISENFRANCHISEMENT, DISCRIMINATION, GENTRIFICATION, etc as 'one word' labeling/branding because their ususally too stupid to rationally/logically argue their inarguable positions. To attempt to provide reasoning to their words is ludicrous--------you just have to accept them as lunacy!!!!!
SOT| 8.19.09 @ 3:14PM
Mr. Hill was so far off base last night . . . I also was at the town meeting in Lebanon and the crowd was mixed: young/old; male/female; and many races. I heard no talk of anyone's race. People were talking about the government taking over the health care, and spending like there is no end to our money. We understood "those people" to mean our representatives and president. We do not trust "those people!" - with our money and even less with our health care. There is nothing racial about any of this!
curmudgeon| 8.20.09 @ 6:45AM
"Lamont" is an anthropologist of education, whatever that means. In all likelihood, that means he's an absolute ignoramus. But no doubt that's a racist observation.
Your Majesty| 8.20.09 @ 9:45AM
If Obama birthers are racist, then are Trig Palin birthers sexist?
One additional point about Central PA: the region's Republicanism is, in no small part, also a decades-long reaction to the corrupt Democrat machines of Philly and Pittsburgh. PA's large cities have soaked its rural areas for longer than Obama has been alive -- and often to line the pockets of big-city pols. (Perhaps Dr. Hill believes farmers are racist for thinking Philly state senator Vince Fumo's recent conviction was long overdue.)
The good folks of Central PA rightfully resent being soaked and suspect that more government means they'll have to bend over yet again.
Corve DaCosta| 8.21.09 @ 11:04AM
I watched the show and I came away with the same thing. I thought he blabbed most of the segment and did not come with any facts. He referred to racism like it was going out of style. There is no way every claim he can blame racism and hate on Obama. The fact is this is a topic that people are passionate about and will get riled up. Dr Hill wow.....
Tomi Johnson| 8.22.09 @ 2:03AM
In 2000, the racial makeup of Lebanon, PA was 85.50% White, 3.23% African American, 0.28% Native American, 1.02% Asian, 0.10% Pacific Islander, 8.11% from other races, and 1.76% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 16.43% of the population. I would have to go to the town to see if folks there are racist or not and would have to examine who is in leadership roles and also who runs the newspaper, chamber of commerce, school board, etc. As far as racism in America goes, whites are trying to blame blacks for pulling the race card and using reverse discrimination to turn away from civil/human rights. In my opinion, the US will never be post-racial because of its history and institutional hierarchy. What we have to do is try to respect everyone and honor MLK more that paying lip service to equality.