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During a recent visit to Kyrgyzstan, reporter Michael Ludwig of Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), spoke with one “Sanjar”, a local leader of the Islamist Hizb ut-Tahrir al Islamijja or “Islamic Party of Liberation”. On Ludwig’s account, Sanjar made clear that the goal of Hizb ut-Tahrir is the establishment of Islamic rule throughout Central Asia and ultimately “Islamic world revolution.” But he had a special message for Christians who might find this prospect unsettling. “We are not monsters [Unmenschen],” Sanjar told Ludwig:
We will suggest to Christians that they convert to Islam and if they refuse, they will still be able to practice their religion within well-defined limits. But in exchange for the right to do so, they will have to pay us a special tax.
Jews, however, will not be shown similar tolerance. “We will exterminate the Jews,” Sanjar added.
This nugget is contained in a June 23 article that the FAZ editors astonishingly saw fit to title “The Good Arguments of the Kyrgyz Islamists.” (Hat-tip: WADI-blog.) Apparently, not even a first-hand encounter with the literally genocidal extremism of Hizb ut-Tahrir was sufficient for the FAZ editors to treat the “story” as anything other than the alleged repressiveness and corruption of the Kyrgyz and other Central Asian governments against which the Islamists are fighting.
It is not only in Germany that journalists and political commentators appear increasingly inclined to treat the well-known anti-Semitism of the Islamists as somehow just a bit of incidental folklore. And yet the evidence suggests that Sanjar’s depiction of the relative treatment reserved for Christians and Jews under Islamic rule is in fact an established feature of Islamist doctrine. Thus, during his 2006 trial, when asked whether in threatening to “destroy you” he was referring to all Americans, Zacarias Moussaoui responded as follows:
No, we have difference we make. You are not all the same for us. Okay? For the American, American Jewish, we will exterminate them. For the Christian, it is different. The Christian, we have a way to accommodate them if they don’t fight us.
(For full transcript, see here.)
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Pete| 8.4.09 @ 12:35PM
It baffles me that Jews in this country support those (read Democrats) who would humor these madmen. Seriously, can anyone explain this to me?
Old Texican| 8.4.09 @ 1:57PM
Mr. Rosenthal
Thank you!
It sadly looks like a "religious war" has been declared against us.
Bless his heart, George W. did not want to take it there.
Sadly, the islamists do want to take it there.
I have a lot of confidence in Mossad. 15 years working and living in the Arab/Iranian world as an exec. They saved my arse several times...without a ripple.
The intriguing question in my mind is whether Israel will try to blow up the nukes in Iran...or if they will simply blow up the bad guys all in a meeting somewhere.
Perhaps they will combine that with blowing up Iran's gasoline import points at the same time.
Very difficult to fight a nuclear war on donkey back. Heh.
Bailey| 8.4.09 @ 2:33PM
Yellow Europe--appeasers all.
Bruce | 8.4.09 @ 3:25PM
"We will suggest to Christians that they convert to Islam and if they refuse, they will still be able to practice their religion within well-defined limits. But in exchange for the right to do so, they will have to pay us a special tax."
Nothing new there - the exact same information was available to anyone with enough sense to read Robert Spenser's magnificent book "Stealth Jihad." Any Christian or Jew who doesn't have the time or interest to read Mr. Spenser's book forfeits, in my opinion, the right to express indignation about TheOne's pro-Islamic policies. The fact that not only Jews (mostly North East, Fla, CA, no doubt) - but Catholics - gave big margins to the Pretender is both mystifying and nauseating.
And don't put that much faith in Mossad to fix this, OT. While they are good at what they do - they are not big enough to battle the Islamists on their own. Taking out Iranian nuke capability near term is not going to do anything much in an Islamic cultural war. That will require strength from the US as well as the pantywaist Europeans to solve. Maybe. They have already established major populations in much of Europe, and with their birth rate what it is (while Christian/Jewish rates continue to decrease) they will very soon have insurmountable majorities in many. Then you will see them winning seats in government. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what comes next.
Americans had better get their heads out of their asses soon - before it's too late for us as well.
Jamie Shafer| 8.4.09 @ 5:48PM
Bruce has it exactly right. I am huge fan of Robert Spenser, Mark Steyn (America Alone) and Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs. I understand this situation exactly, but apparently there are many who brush the info aside and decide we who understand are "Extremists." I gather on a regualar basis with some Catholic women and they believe that
Christs peace and love will conquer all - a triumph of hope over experience imho. On Monday I heard that the condition of women in the Islamic countries is not so bad - we just do not understand their cultures - this from bunch of Catholic Feminists who think Vatican II was the greatest thing since Christs resurrection! I hate to say I despair, but I do. I pray and I ask the Lord to give wisdom to the ignorant. God smiles.