Is President Obama's long honeymoon finally coming to an end?
It's a question I've been hesitant to ask so far in his
presidency, and I only do so now with caution. It's important to
keep in mind that approval ratings fluctuate week to week and
Obama still remains generally popular. That said, we now have a
flurry of recent data suggesting that his support is starting to
wane.
Yesterday, I noted a Quinnipiac
poll in the political bellwether state of Ohio showing
Obama's approval rating dropping to 49 percent, and today
Rasmussen finds that he received his
lowest rating ever in the firm's "Presidential Approval
Index." While Rasmussen has been criticized by some for releasing
polls that tend to skew Republican, Obama's approval rating has
dropped to 56 percent in the latest Gallup daily tracking
poll, also a new low. At the same time, his Gallup
disapproval rating has climbed to 36 percent, its highest ever.
While, taken individually, each of these polling results could be
seen as a blip, taken together, they indicate public perception
of Obama is slipping -- something that can be seen in the Gallup
chart below.
It's quite possible that what we're seeing now is just a hiccup,
and that Obama will bounce back in a week or so, just as he did
on many occasions during the campaign when it seemed his appeal
was fading. However, it should be noted that the recent downtick
in his approval ratings has coincided with the release of
unemployment data and amid criticism that his economic stimulus
bill is not working. And given that even the White House now
expects unemployment to keep creeping up into the double-digits,
it likely means that we can anticipate serveral more months of
bad job reports, each one putting pressure on Obama. It's
important to remember that the next few months will be cruical
for the health care fight, and the best thing Democrats have
going for them on that front is that Obama remains popular. If he
begins to lose credibility, people will become more skeptical
when he claims that health care legislation will save money, not
add to the debt, not lead to tax increase, not mean a government
takeover, not mean that people lose their current insurance, etc.
Philip, this is all related to jobs. As I've stated several
times, jobs are a lagging indicator and you will not see a
reversal until the end of this year/beginning of next. I've also
said for over 6 months now that you will see double digit
unemployment numbers. In fact, Romer said that in Jan/Feb (she is
the most reliable of Obama's economic advisors). Obama's approval
ratings will continue to drop until the job picture improves.
When we are through with this economic cycle, the numbers will
stabilize and grow -- albeit slowly. Also remember that only
about 10% of the stimulus dollars are spent. The infrastructure
spending won't really begin to affect these numbers until the
beginning of next year because of the lead times involved.
That said, I fully agree with your analysis and conclusions. You
are on target again without overstatement.
JimE| 7.8.09 @ 7:31PM
Bob,
What is it like going through life as an unthinking, mindless
drone?
Bob| 7.8.09 @ 8:14PM
I wouldn't know, JimE -- what is it like? So, what does an
unthinking, mindless drone lemming have in common with a Palin
supporter????
EVERYTHING....
R. Dittmar| 7.8.09 @ 8:28PM
One thing that gives me comfort is the thought that a majority of
Americans remain totally disgusted with Washington in general. A
few years ago the polls seem to show that even though voters were
completely fed up with Bush’s incompetence, they became even more
repulsed with Congress. Washington pols may simply have no margin
for error anymore because most Americans automatically assume the
worst.
Jobs may come back for reasons that have little to do with
government and Obama may return to popularity. I think there’s a
very good chance however that as things continue to deteriorate
any good will that voters have will totally evaporate never to
come back.
Liberal Reader| 7.8.09 @ 8:37PM
Obama is a serious politician.
I mean that in two ways. He's "serious" in the sense that he
takes governing seriously. He studies and consults and thinks. He
actually reads books about issues he's deciding.
But he's also a serious politician in that he's extremely
competitive.
If you think he's going to sort of drift into low numbers, and
cede control over the manner in which he is perceived to the
folks at Fox News, you're crazy.
He campaigns better than anyone I've ever seen. He's not going to
roll over, and he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another
once-in-a-lifetime politician comes along. Chances of that seem
slim.
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:28PM
agreed, the GOP can't offer another Reagan because Reagan's
dignity is nearly extinct.
Today the hero ('anti-hero' back in the day) is Michael Jackson,
who "touched the hearts of children."
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:30PM
agreed, the GOP can't offer another Reagan because Reagan's
dignity is nearly extinct.
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:44PM
so just to make sure you get the message, you CAN rest assured
he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another once-in-a-lifetime
politician comes along. Chances of that seem slim. Very very slim
indeed. yes indeedy. alrighty?
somnolence| 7.8.09 @ 9:59PM
The Anointed One can be readily beaten in 2012 because he
ultimately will look back at a now unforseen spectre and crash
into a train wreck which is straight ahead. You betca! Mr.
Brooks.
somnolence| 7.8.09 @ 10:27PM
Count Basie(who was blacker than Michael Jackson by the way) said
it best: "I believe that people were dancing before rock and
roll." And tell me true, is O.J. sweet or stale where he is now?
To me Michael Jackson is not in the same league as real black
heroes such as Malcolm X, Jackie Robinson, or Miles Davis. As far
as Obama, in case you haven't noticed, being distracted by all
the news over The Gloved One the last two weeks, well, that train
wreck is fast approaching. Just ask the chairman of Caterpillar,
or even Senator Robert Byrd. Cap and trade could be one of the
first nails in the coffin. You betcha!
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 10:33PM
OJ will serve less than a decade with time off.
but, again, Sominex, you wont bet. I offered to bet a Dole guy in
'96 that Clinton would be reelected, but he declined the bet.
happens over and over.
Anyway I like Obama better than Bush.
Flower Power| 7.9.09 @ 2:13AM
You like Obama because you're a crappy liberal. Commie.
C4P| 7.9.09 @ 2:17AM
I don't care how competitive Obummer is and I don't care if he's
a good politician--15 to 20% unemployment will end his political
career. He's a stinkin' fascist anyway.
Country Boy| 7.9.09 @ 7:00AM
yup, zippyBoy is in for a rude awakening if he thinks he can
charm to folks into forgetting about the unemployment numbers.
Add to that all the "in your face" stuff of his and the Misses's
lifestyle, just not good. The 52% who voted for him are starting
to see what an ignorant, shallow narcissist zippyBoy really is.
In other words, a highly paid scam-artist.
janranch| 7.9.09 @ 7:45AM
The American people are boycoting this administration with a NO
spend and Don't buy GM, Chrysler and GE, and soon to be Walmart
with their decision to support the Health bill. We don't think
our vote counts anymore with the crooked ACORN involvement. So
that leaves us no choice but to sink this economy even further.
When we get an adult in charge--we will spend $$$$
Jill| 7.9.09 @ 7:56AM
"Jobs lagging" is a WH talking point distributed to the MSM. Lost
jobs after 9/11 was the "first indicator" of the supposed Great
Depression of 2002 from the Dem Party's talking points at that
time. Ascendancy of Marxism and overturning the American
Revolution are things ordinary Democrats should be eternally
ashamed of, not celebrate. What books does Obama read before
making careful decisions to jeopardize our allies existence while
empowering dictators who oppress Hondurans, Iranians and N.
Koreans? Dems at this thread should realize the campaign is over.
Governing has begun, and so far Obama has caused the US to defend
an alien agenda contrary to the spirit of American citizens. That
this has not yet dawned on you only means your identity as a
Democrat has overtaken your ability to judge Obama's actions.
Tim| 7.9.09 @ 8:25AM
"Obama is a serious politician."
True, he won't rollover and quit after his first bloody nose
(ahem). But I will take issue with you on him being the best
campaigner. Bill Clinton gets my grudging respect for that title.
At his speak he shrugged off anything that hit him and went right
on.
Meanwhile the GOP apparently has got Bush III warming up. Good
Grief. Let's just run McCain again.
Echohawk| 7.9.09 @ 8:46AM
I live in Ohio and times are tough here. Ohioans are pragmatic;
if the employment figures don't improve by 2011, it doesn't
matter how affable and likable Pres. Obama is, he won't win this
bellweather state.
Bill| 7.9.09 @ 8:50AM
Obama isn't a politician, he is a celebrity, an actor who reads
off a teleprompter scripted by a writer.
he has not provided CLEAR evidence he is met the prerequisites
for the position which he serves.
Reading books to prepare him how to decide on world issues at
this point is a little freighting don't you think?
What has been accomplished is providing the Democrats with a
super slush fund(Stimulus I), for them to buy votes with in 2010!
The money will flow then, when votes are needed for the 2010
elections!
Obama promised what he could not deliver. Now, they say they
misjudged the seriousness of the economic situation.
Perhaps, looking at the poll numbers that are just out it, maybe
the American people realize they misjudged the situation too!
I worry about what Bill called the "super slush fund(Stimulus I)"
-- ACORN and the Census don't make me much happier. If the
mainstream media ever decides to actually do their jobs instead
of being a lapdog to The One, they could help their country by
shining a bright light on the ACORN-Obama-Stimulus connection.
Nothing like the American taxpayers paying for Democrats to be
re-elected.
Matthew Vadum (here at Amspec) has been one of the few to looking
deeply into the corruption ... we need more.
JP| 7.9.09 @ 9:20AM
I tend to agree with Bob. President Reagan and the GOP in general
took big hits in 1982. Like Obama, Reagan was generally liked,
but when unemployment hit 9% in 1982 (from 5% in 1981), his
approval ratings went down and the GOP lost seats in the
mid-term.
That said, one must also realize that in 1981 interest rates went
to 19%, inflation dove from 14% to 7%, and oil prices as well as
precious metals prices plunged. The economy began to rapidly
improve in 1983.
President Obama has no such mitigating factors. President Reagan,
while he did begin to run up defecits has much less debt to worry
about. The dollar soared (as one would expect when the Fed fixes
interest rates so high), and the lowering of the top marginal
interest rates from 78% to 28% fueled the consumption based
economy we knew so well.
President Obama's defecits run about 25% of the GDP; he is
borrowing huge junks of money from future earnings in order to
subsidize the take over of GM, Chyrsler, and AIG. He is proposing
to borrow another trillion to finance Universal Health Care, and
the Waxman Markey Cap and Trade threatens to set forth a trillion
dollars in new taxes. The remainder of the Bush 2003 tax cuts are
set to expire next year.
None of this bodes well for job creation for 2009 or 2010 -or
2011 and 2012 for that matter.
JP| 7.9.09 @ 9:35AM
"Obama is a serious politician.
I mean that in two ways. He's "serious" in the sense that he
takes governing seriously. He studies and consults and thinks. He
actually reads books about issues he's deciding."
Serious as in offering a record number "present" votes during his
short time spent in the US Senate. Serious as in inheriting his
House Seat from a disgraced Bobby Rush? Serious as in getting his
Chicago Times Man David Axelrod to plant gossip in the newspapers
about potential rivals?
Liberal Reader:
Obama, until this summer, has had cocooned politcal life. From
his time in the Illinois Senate until his inaugeration some 12
years later, he faced not one political challange. His only
accomplishments was the authoring of 2 autobiographies. Unlike
Bill Clinton, he never faced defeat, nor had he had to build
alliances or pay his dues. There is nothing in Obama's past
record or life that one could point to and say he is a thoughtful
or masterful politician. In reality, he is a political hack that
was the product of the Cook County Machine.
There is no indication he reads anything. If he isn't campaigning
across "safe districts", he is out of the country where he
denounces his own nation, or is falling at the feet of thugs. His
only major piece of legislation -The Stimulus- was actually
authored by Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, and Senator Reid.
rob king| 7.9.09 @ 9:46AM
So the bamster 'reads books' when he is faced with a
decision....well, alrighty then that makes us all feel better.
Books are at best simply the imaginings of some pundit or others
little mind. They are NOT based on truth, but merely on the spin
of the day. They cannot be based on truth because there will be
no truth until there are absolutes, and sorry no signs of that
coming any time soon. Maybe the next generation or the one after
that will produce a great new direction. It will have to happen,
or we perish from idiocy.
jqt| 7.9.09 @ 9:51AM
"There is no indication he reads anything"
Yeah there is , he reads "Urdu poetry"
Bob| 7.9.09 @ 10:00AM
JP -- The fundamentals of the economy are worse now than in 1982
primarily because of the level of consumer debt and the fact that
the wealth in the housing market has disappeared. That said,
people still vote their pocketbooks and will continue to do so.
rob king -- you said this:
"Books are at best simply the imaginings of some pundit or others
little mind. They are NOT based on truth, but merely on the spin
of the day."
So the Bible is just imaginings of a little mind. Hmmm.... Is it
better to read books and listen to other thoughts, or to not read
and just go fishing in waders like Palin? Hmmm....
dmc| 7.9.09 @ 10:06AM
And he reads Pushkin. He told us so....
goodspkr| 7.9.09 @ 10:17AM
"He campaigns better than anyone I've ever seen. He's not going
to roll over, and he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another
once-in-a-lifetime politician comes along. Chances of that seem
slim. "
Liberal reader
LR, keep telling yourself this. Obama campaigns well when he
isn't being specific in anyway. He ran on "hope and change" in
2008 with a financial meltdown going on. This garnered him 53% of
the vote.
In 2012 he will have to run on his record. What will unemployment
be then? What will prices be then (his policies are highly
inflationary)? What will the world look like then (he's siding
with Iran, Venazula, etc.) And the MSM is now actually starting
to look into his past and are now telling us some unsavory
things.
If you think it will take an extraordinary candidate to beat him,
you were probably surprised when Jimmy Carter lost.
dmc| 7.9.09 @ 10:39AM
His popularity has always been of the pop culture variety. Wide
perhaps, but shallow which makes his support VERY shaky and
dependent on the whims of a fickle public. He can't continue to
live on the charisma that got him elected (along with facing a
very weak opponent in McCain).
If things continue to deteriorate, so will his "popularity". I
suspect its starting already.
Tenn Slim| 7.9.09 @ 10:57AM
"they indicate public perception of Obama is slipping" IE
Polls...
Local 4 Calendar cafe polls. If Obama hisself walked into one of
these, he would be laughed out of the store. The PERCEPTION now
EQUALS the ACTUAL. OBNA is on the down turn here in the Big Muddy
Delta, for sure.
end
Semper FI
Reilly| 7.9.09 @ 11:06AM
Americans are sick to death of incompetent and corrupt D.C.
politicians, deficit spending, and political tin ears. Obama won
a lot of independents and some republicans on his empty promise
of "hope & change". -->cleaning up D.C., stopping the
waste, more transparancy, getting rid of insiders, etc. ad
nauseum. In his short tenure he has done the opposite. Tax cheats
in his cabinet, stimulus and bailouts for special interests,
firing IG's who nail his corrupt buddies, and not only are bills
not on the net as promised, they're not even read by congress.
And all the above does not even take into consideration his inept
handeling of the economy . 2010 will be about throwing out
incumbents ~ big time. Hopefully the corrupt Dem majority who is
trying to bankrupt this country will loose enough power to stop
this lying Chicago street thug from imposing his will on the
people, both those who saw through his snake oil and the brain
dead who thought he was a messiah.
Trex| 7.9.09 @ 11:19AM
Obama is very beatable. He's anything but invincible. John McCain
was a doddering old fool who ran the worst GOP POTUS campaingn in
US history & he still came close. When the markets crashed,
instead of blaming Wall Street he should have blamed the Democrat
controlled Wall Street vis-a-vis Fan/Fred & Goldman Sachs for
the mess.
Todd| 7.9.09 @ 1:10PM
I'm a republican, but I cannot vote for John McCain and Sarah
Palin. Why are conservative governments so closely tied with
christianity? The conservative viewpoint is to have a small
goverment that does not intrude on the life of citizens, but
christianity is an infectious religion that imposes their beliefs
on others.
tonypal| 7.9.09 @ 1:56PM
Todd:
You're no more of a republican than Obama. You also have no
understanding of Christians or Christianity. As a Christian, I'll
tell you what I want most. I want to be left alone. I don't want
government telling me how to order my life. I just want to be
left alone.
Now I'm sure that when you start talking about how Christianity
"imposes their (sic) beliefs on other," I assume you mean that
Christians are overwhelmingly opposed to abortion while you're
pro-choice. As someone who is pro-life, I simply want Roe v.
Wade, an incoherent decision made by 7 law school grads,
overturned. The effect of overturning Roe would be to abide by
the 10th amendment and return the matter to the states, where it
belongs. If you disagree with this, then please tell me where in
the US Constitution you find a right to an abortion. While you're
at it, you will get bonus points if you can tell me where it
calls for a separation of church and state, another liberal lie.
Good luck.
Bob| 7.9.09 @ 2:09PM
tonypal -- the problem is not with Christianity per se, it is
with your litmus test that you must be anti-abortion and anti-gay
marriage to be elected in the party. I am pro-choice and I happen
to agree that Roe was wrongly decided. The fact that I am more
fiscally conservative than most of you makes me persona non grata
in the Republican party. That is the problem Todd is talking
about. Until fiscal and security issues become much more
important than social issues to the party, you will not see a
turnaround.
jim| 7.9.09 @ 3:00PM
hey, its obama's economy now. if things get worse he won't get
re-elected, if they get better he will. people always vote their
pocketbook. don't listen to his doublespeak, watch what he does.
he would sound pretty reading 'paradise lost'[perhaps the hardest
read in history]so watch what he does. and, oh yeah, hold on to
your wallets, someone has to pay.......
David| 7.9.09 @ 3:08PM
Obama's negatives will always have a floor that is much higher
than a white presidents because the african american community
will support him unconditionally because of his skin color
regardless of his positions or his competence. Yeah, I said it.
AK| 7.9.09 @ 3:29PM
Listen, we need to stop browbeating the man. The way I see it we
are getting exactly what we asked for when we elected him. The
majority of us bought into his pie in the sky "hope and change"
mantra. An idiot could have realized his policies were going to
drive up unemployment, have companies run for cover, and grind
the economy to a halt. We own him for at least three and a half
more years so let's support him, we asked for it we got it. If we
want a change WE THE PEOPLE will have to make a difference
despite this administration's failed policies. Let's pull
ourselves up by our bootstraps and stop crying in our beer about
the bad choice we made for President. Who cares what happens in
2012, we need to get this economy going now. Let's use American
ingenuity and intestinal fortitude to succeed despite the
economic ballast we are being saddled with. GO AMERICA-
Derold Davs| 7.10.09 @ 8:14AM
The books Obumster reads are Marxist and he is following them to
a T. He probably has the Commie Manifesto memorized and is
executing it flawlessly. America, you don't realize it yet but
you are DEAD and the Liberal Dems have killed you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Texas001| 7.20.09 @ 12:35PM
Liberal Reader said, "He studies and consults and thinks. He
actually reads books about issues he's deciding." Yeah, like the
Spendilous Bill. I am sure he read that page by page and over and
over. he will read the Cap and Tax bill and the (you have to sign
up for abortion in you health care coverage) Health Waste bill.
devan| 8.23.09 @ 6:07PM
The job and economy stats coming from the DC beaurocrats cannot
be believed as these folks belong to the federal employee unions
who helped elect president prompter. He promised the president of
their union that he would increase govt. union jobs dramatically
if he was elected & that is where much of the "stimulus"
money is going - to govt. jobs. They cannot allow him to be
defeated as the union would lose these jobs - and the dues cash
flow - and therefore will cook the books however they have to to
keep him in office. Beware the govt/media/union complex.
Bob| 7.8.09 @ 6:50PM
Philip, this is all related to jobs. As I've stated several times, jobs are a lagging indicator and you will not see a reversal until the end of this year/beginning of next. I've also said for over 6 months now that you will see double digit unemployment numbers. In fact, Romer said that in Jan/Feb (she is the most reliable of Obama's economic advisors). Obama's approval ratings will continue to drop until the job picture improves. When we are through with this economic cycle, the numbers will stabilize and grow -- albeit slowly. Also remember that only about 10% of the stimulus dollars are spent. The infrastructure spending won't really begin to affect these numbers until the beginning of next year because of the lead times involved.
That said, I fully agree with your analysis and conclusions. You are on target again without overstatement.
JimE| 7.8.09 @ 7:31PM
Bob,
What is it like going through life as an unthinking, mindless drone?
Bob| 7.8.09 @ 8:14PM
I wouldn't know, JimE -- what is it like? So, what does an unthinking, mindless drone lemming have in common with a Palin supporter????
EVERYTHING....
R. Dittmar| 7.8.09 @ 8:28PM
One thing that gives me comfort is the thought that a majority of Americans remain totally disgusted with Washington in general. A few years ago the polls seem to show that even though voters were completely fed up with Bush’s incompetence, they became even more repulsed with Congress. Washington pols may simply have no margin for error anymore because most Americans automatically assume the worst.
Jobs may come back for reasons that have little to do with government and Obama may return to popularity. I think there’s a very good chance however that as things continue to deteriorate any good will that voters have will totally evaporate never to come back.
Liberal Reader| 7.8.09 @ 8:37PM
Obama is a serious politician.
I mean that in two ways. He's "serious" in the sense that he takes governing seriously. He studies and consults and thinks. He actually reads books about issues he's deciding.
But he's also a serious politician in that he's extremely competitive.
If you think he's going to sort of drift into low numbers, and cede control over the manner in which he is perceived to the folks at Fox News, you're crazy.
He campaigns better than anyone I've ever seen. He's not going to roll over, and he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another once-in-a-lifetime politician comes along. Chances of that seem slim.
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:28PM
agreed, the GOP can't offer another Reagan because Reagan's dignity is nearly extinct.
Today the hero ('anti-hero' back in the day) is Michael Jackson, who "touched the hearts of children."
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:30PM
agreed, the GOP can't offer another Reagan because Reagan's dignity is nearly extinct.
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 9:44PM
so just to make sure you get the message, you CAN rest assured he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another once-in-a-lifetime politician comes along. Chances of that seem slim. Very very slim indeed. yes indeedy. alrighty?
somnolence| 7.8.09 @ 9:59PM
The Anointed One can be readily beaten in 2012 because he ultimately will look back at a now unforseen spectre and crash into a train wreck which is straight ahead. You betca! Mr. Brooks.
somnolence| 7.8.09 @ 10:27PM
Count Basie(who was blacker than Michael Jackson by the way) said it best: "I believe that people were dancing before rock and roll." And tell me true, is O.J. sweet or stale where he is now? To me Michael Jackson is not in the same league as real black heroes such as Malcolm X, Jackie Robinson, or Miles Davis. As far as Obama, in case you haven't noticed, being distracted by all the news over The Gloved One the last two weeks, well, that train wreck is fast approaching. Just ask the chairman of Caterpillar, or even Senator Robert Byrd. Cap and trade could be one of the first nails in the coffin. You betcha!
Alan Brooks| 7.8.09 @ 10:33PM
OJ will serve less than a decade with time off.
but, again, Sominex, you wont bet. I offered to bet a Dole guy in '96 that Clinton would be reelected, but he declined the bet. happens over and over.
Anyway I like Obama better than Bush.
Flower Power| 7.9.09 @ 2:13AM
You like Obama because you're a crappy liberal. Commie.
C4P| 7.9.09 @ 2:17AM
I don't care how competitive Obummer is and I don't care if he's a good politician--15 to 20% unemployment will end his political career. He's a stinkin' fascist anyway.
Country Boy| 7.9.09 @ 7:00AM
yup, zippyBoy is in for a rude awakening if he thinks he can charm to folks into forgetting about the unemployment numbers. Add to that all the "in your face" stuff of his and the Misses's lifestyle, just not good. The 52% who voted for him are starting to see what an ignorant, shallow narcissist zippyBoy really is. In other words, a highly paid scam-artist.
janranch| 7.9.09 @ 7:45AM
The American people are boycoting this administration with a NO spend and Don't buy GM, Chrysler and GE, and soon to be Walmart with their decision to support the Health bill. We don't think our vote counts anymore with the crooked ACORN involvement. So that leaves us no choice but to sink this economy even further. When we get an adult in charge--we will spend $$$$
Jill| 7.9.09 @ 7:56AM
"Jobs lagging" is a WH talking point distributed to the MSM. Lost jobs after 9/11 was the "first indicator" of the supposed Great Depression of 2002 from the Dem Party's talking points at that time. Ascendancy of Marxism and overturning the American Revolution are things ordinary Democrats should be eternally ashamed of, not celebrate. What books does Obama read before making careful decisions to jeopardize our allies existence while empowering dictators who oppress Hondurans, Iranians and N. Koreans? Dems at this thread should realize the campaign is over. Governing has begun, and so far Obama has caused the US to defend an alien agenda contrary to the spirit of American citizens. That this has not yet dawned on you only means your identity as a Democrat has overtaken your ability to judge Obama's actions.
Tim| 7.9.09 @ 8:25AM
"Obama is a serious politician."
True, he won't rollover and quit after his first bloody nose (ahem). But I will take issue with you on him being the best campaigner. Bill Clinton gets my grudging respect for that title. At his speak he shrugged off anything that hit him and went right on.
Meanwhile the GOP apparently has got Bush III warming up. Good Grief. Let's just run McCain again.
Echohawk| 7.9.09 @ 8:46AM
I live in Ohio and times are tough here. Ohioans are pragmatic; if the employment figures don't improve by 2011, it doesn't matter how affable and likable Pres. Obama is, he won't win this bellweather state.
Bill| 7.9.09 @ 8:50AM
Obama isn't a politician, he is a celebrity, an actor who reads off a teleprompter scripted by a writer.
he has not provided CLEAR evidence he is met the prerequisites for the position which he serves.
Reading books to prepare him how to decide on world issues at this point is a little freighting don't you think?
What has been accomplished is providing the Democrats with a super slush fund(Stimulus I), for them to buy votes with in 2010! The money will flow then, when votes are needed for the 2010 elections!
Obama promised what he could not deliver. Now, they say they misjudged the seriousness of the economic situation.
Perhaps, looking at the poll numbers that are just out it, maybe the American people realize they misjudged the situation too!
Deborah D| 7.9.09 @ 9:05AM
I worry about what Bill called the "super slush fund(Stimulus I)" -- ACORN and the Census don't make me much happier. If the mainstream media ever decides to actually do their jobs instead of being a lapdog to The One, they could help their country by shining a bright light on the ACORN-Obama-Stimulus connection. Nothing like the American taxpayers paying for Democrats to be re-elected.
Matthew Vadum (here at Amspec) has been one of the few to looking deeply into the corruption ... we need more.
JP| 7.9.09 @ 9:20AM
I tend to agree with Bob. President Reagan and the GOP in general took big hits in 1982. Like Obama, Reagan was generally liked, but when unemployment hit 9% in 1982 (from 5% in 1981), his approval ratings went down and the GOP lost seats in the mid-term.
That said, one must also realize that in 1981 interest rates went to 19%, inflation dove from 14% to 7%, and oil prices as well as precious metals prices plunged. The economy began to rapidly improve in 1983.
President Obama has no such mitigating factors. President Reagan, while he did begin to run up defecits has much less debt to worry about. The dollar soared (as one would expect when the Fed fixes interest rates so high), and the lowering of the top marginal interest rates from 78% to 28% fueled the consumption based economy we knew so well.
President Obama's defecits run about 25% of the GDP; he is borrowing huge junks of money from future earnings in order to subsidize the take over of GM, Chyrsler, and AIG. He is proposing to borrow another trillion to finance Universal Health Care, and the Waxman Markey Cap and Trade threatens to set forth a trillion dollars in new taxes. The remainder of the Bush 2003 tax cuts are set to expire next year.
None of this bodes well for job creation for 2009 or 2010 -or 2011 and 2012 for that matter.
JP| 7.9.09 @ 9:35AM
"Obama is a serious politician.
I mean that in two ways. He's "serious" in the sense that he takes governing seriously. He studies and consults and thinks. He actually reads books about issues he's deciding."
Serious as in offering a record number "present" votes during his short time spent in the US Senate. Serious as in inheriting his House Seat from a disgraced Bobby Rush? Serious as in getting his Chicago Times Man David Axelrod to plant gossip in the newspapers about potential rivals?
Liberal Reader:
Obama, until this summer, has had cocooned politcal life. From his time in the Illinois Senate until his inaugeration some 12 years later, he faced not one political challange. His only accomplishments was the authoring of 2 autobiographies. Unlike Bill Clinton, he never faced defeat, nor had he had to build alliances or pay his dues. There is nothing in Obama's past record or life that one could point to and say he is a thoughtful or masterful politician. In reality, he is a political hack that was the product of the Cook County Machine.
There is no indication he reads anything. If he isn't campaigning across "safe districts", he is out of the country where he denounces his own nation, or is falling at the feet of thugs. His only major piece of legislation -The Stimulus- was actually authored by Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, and Senator Reid.
rob king| 7.9.09 @ 9:46AM
So the bamster 'reads books' when he is faced with a decision....well, alrighty then that makes us all feel better. Books are at best simply the imaginings of some pundit or others little mind. They are NOT based on truth, but merely on the spin of the day. They cannot be based on truth because there will be no truth until there are absolutes, and sorry no signs of that coming any time soon. Maybe the next generation or the one after that will produce a great new direction. It will have to happen, or we perish from idiocy.
jqt| 7.9.09 @ 9:51AM
"There is no indication he reads anything"
Yeah there is , he reads "Urdu poetry"
Bob| 7.9.09 @ 10:00AM
JP -- The fundamentals of the economy are worse now than in 1982 primarily because of the level of consumer debt and the fact that the wealth in the housing market has disappeared. That said, people still vote their pocketbooks and will continue to do so.
rob king -- you said this:
"Books are at best simply the imaginings of some pundit or others little mind. They are NOT based on truth, but merely on the spin of the day."
So the Bible is just imaginings of a little mind. Hmmm.... Is it better to read books and listen to other thoughts, or to not read and just go fishing in waders like Palin? Hmmm....
dmc| 7.9.09 @ 10:06AM
And he reads Pushkin. He told us so....
goodspkr| 7.9.09 @ 10:17AM
"He campaigns better than anyone I've ever seen. He's not going to roll over, and he'll not be beaten in 2012 unless another once-in-a-lifetime politician comes along. Chances of that seem slim. "
Liberal reader
LR, keep telling yourself this. Obama campaigns well when he isn't being specific in anyway. He ran on "hope and change" in 2008 with a financial meltdown going on. This garnered him 53% of the vote.
In 2012 he will have to run on his record. What will unemployment be then? What will prices be then (his policies are highly inflationary)? What will the world look like then (he's siding with Iran, Venazula, etc.) And the MSM is now actually starting to look into his past and are now telling us some unsavory things.
If you think it will take an extraordinary candidate to beat him, you were probably surprised when Jimmy Carter lost.
dmc| 7.9.09 @ 10:39AM
His popularity has always been of the pop culture variety. Wide perhaps, but shallow which makes his support VERY shaky and dependent on the whims of a fickle public. He can't continue to live on the charisma that got him elected (along with facing a very weak opponent in McCain).
If things continue to deteriorate, so will his "popularity". I suspect its starting already.
Tenn Slim| 7.9.09 @ 10:57AM
"they indicate public perception of Obama is slipping" IE Polls...
Local 4 Calendar cafe polls. If Obama hisself walked into one of these, he would be laughed out of the store. The PERCEPTION now EQUALS the ACTUAL. OBNA is on the down turn here in the Big Muddy Delta, for sure.
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Reilly| 7.9.09 @ 11:06AM
Americans are sick to death of incompetent and corrupt D.C. politicians, deficit spending, and political tin ears. Obama won a lot of independents and some republicans on his empty promise of "hope & change". -->cleaning up D.C., stopping the waste, more transparancy, getting rid of insiders, etc. ad nauseum. In his short tenure he has done the opposite. Tax cheats in his cabinet, stimulus and bailouts for special interests, firing IG's who nail his corrupt buddies, and not only are bills not on the net as promised, they're not even read by congress. And all the above does not even take into consideration his inept handeling of the economy . 2010 will be about throwing out incumbents ~ big time. Hopefully the corrupt Dem majority who is trying to bankrupt this country will loose enough power to stop this lying Chicago street thug from imposing his will on the people, both those who saw through his snake oil and the brain dead who thought he was a messiah.
Trex| 7.9.09 @ 11:19AM
Obama is very beatable. He's anything but invincible. John McCain was a doddering old fool who ran the worst GOP POTUS campaingn in US history & he still came close. When the markets crashed, instead of blaming Wall Street he should have blamed the Democrat controlled Wall Street vis-a-vis Fan/Fred & Goldman Sachs for the mess.
Todd| 7.9.09 @ 1:10PM
I'm a republican, but I cannot vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Why are conservative governments so closely tied with christianity? The conservative viewpoint is to have a small goverment that does not intrude on the life of citizens, but christianity is an infectious religion that imposes their beliefs on others.
tonypal| 7.9.09 @ 1:56PM
Todd:
You're no more of a republican than Obama. You also have no understanding of Christians or Christianity. As a Christian, I'll tell you what I want most. I want to be left alone. I don't want government telling me how to order my life. I just want to be left alone.
Now I'm sure that when you start talking about how Christianity "imposes their (sic) beliefs on other," I assume you mean that Christians are overwhelmingly opposed to abortion while you're pro-choice. As someone who is pro-life, I simply want Roe v. Wade, an incoherent decision made by 7 law school grads, overturned. The effect of overturning Roe would be to abide by the 10th amendment and return the matter to the states, where it belongs. If you disagree with this, then please tell me where in the US Constitution you find a right to an abortion. While you're at it, you will get bonus points if you can tell me where it calls for a separation of church and state, another liberal lie. Good luck.
Bob| 7.9.09 @ 2:09PM
tonypal -- the problem is not with Christianity per se, it is with your litmus test that you must be anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage to be elected in the party. I am pro-choice and I happen to agree that Roe was wrongly decided. The fact that I am more fiscally conservative than most of you makes me persona non grata in the Republican party. That is the problem Todd is talking about. Until fiscal and security issues become much more important than social issues to the party, you will not see a turnaround.
jim| 7.9.09 @ 3:00PM
hey, its obama's economy now. if things get worse he won't get re-elected, if they get better he will. people always vote their pocketbook. don't listen to his doublespeak, watch what he does. he would sound pretty reading 'paradise lost'[perhaps the hardest read in history]so watch what he does. and, oh yeah, hold on to your wallets, someone has to pay.......
David| 7.9.09 @ 3:08PM
Obama's negatives will always have a floor that is much higher than a white presidents because the african american community will support him unconditionally because of his skin color regardless of his positions or his competence. Yeah, I said it.
AK| 7.9.09 @ 3:29PM
Listen, we need to stop browbeating the man. The way I see it we are getting exactly what we asked for when we elected him. The majority of us bought into his pie in the sky "hope and change" mantra. An idiot could have realized his policies were going to drive up unemployment, have companies run for cover, and grind the economy to a halt. We own him for at least three and a half more years so let's support him, we asked for it we got it. If we want a change WE THE PEOPLE will have to make a difference despite this administration's failed policies. Let's pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and stop crying in our beer about the bad choice we made for President. Who cares what happens in 2012, we need to get this economy going now. Let's use American ingenuity and intestinal fortitude to succeed despite the economic ballast we are being saddled with. GO AMERICA-
Derold Davs| 7.10.09 @ 8:14AM
The books Obumster reads are Marxist and he is following them to a T. He probably has the Commie Manifesto memorized and is executing it flawlessly. America, you don't realize it yet but you are DEAD and the Liberal Dems have killed you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Texas001| 7.20.09 @ 12:35PM
Liberal Reader said, "He studies and consults and thinks. He actually reads books about issues he's deciding." Yeah, like the Spendilous Bill. I am sure he read that page by page and over and over. he will read the Cap and Tax bill and the (you have to sign up for abortion in you health care coverage) Health Waste bill.
devan| 8.23.09 @ 6:07PM
The job and economy stats coming from the DC beaurocrats cannot be believed as these folks belong to the federal employee unions who helped elect president prompter. He promised the president of their union that he would increase govt. union jobs dramatically if he was elected & that is where much of the "stimulus" money is going - to govt. jobs. They cannot allow him to be defeated as the union would lose these jobs - and the dues cash flow - and therefore will cook the books however they have to to keep him in office. Beware the govt/media/union complex.
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