Turkey long has been allied with the U.S., seen as a bulwark
against both the Soviet Union and radical Islam. However,
ties have been fraying in recent years for a number of
reasons. The Turkish public has turned hostile to
Washington and Americans cannot even count on the friendship of
secular nationalists.
Particularly disturbing is evidence tying the so-called "deep
state," long viewed as a threat to democratic governance,
especially by the moderately Islamic ruling party, to the 2007
murder of three Christians, a German and two Turkish
converts. The crime was grotesquely brutal and cruel, yet
public officials have seemed almost as willing to criticize the
victims as the murderers. According
to Christianity Today:
In April 2007, five young men tortured and
killed two Turkish converts and a German Christian at a
Christian publishing house in the southeastern city of Malatya.
When the resulting trial began in January 2008, the court and
the Turkish public regarded it as a straightforward case of
overzealous nationalists killing missionaries, whose activity
was widely regarded as a national threat.
But in recent months, lawyers have tied the case to a more
serious national threat. Prosecutors have expanded their
investigation beyond the five assailants to local officials.
The murders are now seen as a plot by the "deep state" group
Ergenekon, a cabal of generals, politicians, and other
prominent figures accused of trying to overthrow the
government. Ergenekon is already accused of plotting a national
coup and killing several people, including a Catholic priest.
"From the very beginning, it was clear that some other people
were involved with this, because in Turkey you cannot do
something on this scale without being noticed by state agents,"
said Orhan Kemal Cengiz, the lead prosecuting attorney for the
Malatya case. He invited lawyers from across Turkey working on
Ergenekon-linked murder cases to form "a common eye" on the
Malatya murders.
Turkish politics long has had a vicious authoritarian
edge. Be careful what you say about the military and don't
ever think about criticizing Ataturk, the founder of modern
Turkey. But aiding and abetting murder? If the
allegations are true, it turns out there isn't a lot of moral
difference between Islamic radicals and nationalist secularist
radicals in Turkey.
Turkey has a worse religious freedom profile than either Iran or
Saddam-era Iraq.
Cumhur| 7.3.09 @ 9:54PM
what? are? you? talking? about?
I am a Turkish-American living in Cleveland, but I had hard time
understanding this article.
People, not just in Turkey, desire more Just and Wiser American
policies. Turkey did NOT want the war in Iraq; and Wants
Palestine issue solved YESTERDAY. Otherwise, we are peachy with
Americans.
The problem is the Europeans. They seem not globalized enough
yet.
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MattSwartz| 7.4.09 @ 1:57AM
Cumhur,
You are giving good answers to questions that are not being
asked.
If Turks tend to be pro-American, then that's fine. The question
is whether Turkey provides equal protection to all it's citizens,
including political dissidents and religious converts.
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CheMan (Aka AntiChrist)| 7.23.09 @ 3:42PM
Christians have such a fanatical "Persecution" Complex. Look at
Paulin, GW Bush, Swaggart, etc. They love blaming the big bad,
evil, atheistic, Liberal Media for all their problems. They never
do anything bad, say anything stupid...oh no. Christians,
Never!!!!
Look at the bombs falling in the Middle East, the situation in
Pak vs. India, the Muslim separatist in Phillipines, etc.
Whenever, there is a conflict, the Christian West (excluding many
of us Leftists) loves to either encourage Muslims to kill Muslims
or others to do so. With all the anti-Muslim violence the
Judeo-Christians encourage or perform directly, can you blame the
Muslims in Turkey or elsewhere for not trusting or admiring
Christianity (or Judaism). I can't!!!
MattSwartz| 7.3.09 @ 2:12PM
Turkey has a worse religious freedom profile than either Iran or Saddam-era Iraq.
Cumhur| 7.3.09 @ 9:54PM
what? are? you? talking? about?
I am a Turkish-American living in Cleveland, but I had hard time understanding this article.
People, not just in Turkey, desire more Just and Wiser American policies. Turkey did NOT want the war in Iraq; and Wants Palestine issue solved YESTERDAY. Otherwise, we are peachy with Americans.
The problem is the Europeans. They seem not globalized enough yet.
Beyond that, all is well. slm.
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The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Turkish Anti-Christian … | Contemporary Christ links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
MattSwartz| 7.4.09 @ 1:57AM
Cumhur,
You are giving good answers to questions that are not being asked.
If Turks tend to be pro-American, then that's fine. The question is whether Turkey provides equal protection to all it's citizens, including political dissidents and religious converts.
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Steynian 371 « Free Canuckistan! links to this page. Here’s an excerpt:
CheMan (Aka AntiChrist)| 7.23.09 @ 3:42PM
Christians have such a fanatical "Persecution" Complex. Look at Paulin, GW Bush, Swaggart, etc. They love blaming the big bad, evil, atheistic, Liberal Media for all their problems. They never do anything bad, say anything stupid...oh no. Christians, Never!!!!
Look at the bombs falling in the Middle East, the situation in Pak vs. India, the Muslim separatist in Phillipines, etc. Whenever, there is a conflict, the Christian West (excluding many of us Leftists) loves to either encourage Muslims to kill Muslims or others to do so. With all the anti-Muslim violence the Judeo-Christians encourage or perform directly, can you blame the Muslims in Turkey or elsewhere for not trusting or admiring Christianity (or Judaism). I can't!!!