The American Spectator

ds80| 6.26.09 @ 8:18PM

Cap-and-Tax: another nail in the 2010 election coffin of pea-brained Liberals.

Obama now OWNS whatever the deleterious effects of cap-and-tax will be on our already weak economy. Can't blame Bush for this.

JackSprat| 6.26.09 @ 8:31PM

New Jersey is suffering from the pollution to a greater extent than the less industrial states.

Aaron| 6.26.09 @ 8:48PM

Actually, climate scientists have found that heavy downpours are one consequence of climate change. Last year, there was also a heavy downpour and thunderstorm at the Senate debated climate and energy legislation.

-Aaron Huertas
Press Secretary
Union of Concerned Scientists

Matthew Vadum| 6.26.09 @ 8:55PM

So good to hear from frauds at the "Union of Concerned Scientists" [sic] which will accept anybody as a member upon payment of a small fee. See http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1186063502.pdf

Have you parasites managed to recruit any actual scientists lately?

Aaron| 6.26.09 @ 9:04PM

Actually, I have found that heavy downpours occur as a result of either Nimbostratus or Cumulonimbus clouds and have nothing what-so-ever to do with "climate change". Last year, there were a lot of down pours and thunderstorms and the Senate wasted mine and your money debating stupid topics. Take your talking points elsewhere Huertas.

-A. James van Hine

John Thacker| 6.26.09 @ 9:06PM

219 means it was unpopular, so they let some members vote against. But I'm sure that the Democratic whips would have been able to twist a few arms if need be.

Pete Milton| 6.26.09 @ 9:28PM

Chicken Little is Matthyou's idea of an actual scientist.

2Anglico| 6.26.09 @ 10:30PM

Where's my pitchfork?

Ellis Wyatt| 6.26.09 @ 10:41PM

If this were to ever become law by getting out of the Senate, which is highly doubtful, it would lead to the end of the democrat left and the law would quickly be overturned by a future Congress. I already laid off a number of people after the inaugaration in anticipation of this tax increase, but it is my guess that there are alot of businesses that are not ahead of the curve. Look for continued surge in unemployment and a crashing economy in the short run in response to this becoming one step closer to being law.

tollen| 6.26.09 @ 11:59PM

It is hard to believe that Dave Reichert voted against Boeing. He will not be re-elected.
I started emailing my seantors today!!!!!!

A. Russell Jordan| 6.27.09 @ 12:14AM

Concerning Ellis' "crashing economy in the short run": Somebody (my mother) was asking why powers that be would purposefully steer our nation into the proverbial iceberg. It's subject to debate, but my guess is that a worthless dollar would spark an outcry from the grieving Michael Jackson fans/Obama supporters for the "gub-ment" to "do something". To which the powers that be would happily respond with an all new Euro-compatible currency- ushering in an honest-to-God global banking system. Why else would these "smart" folks in powerful positions lobby for such nonsensical legislation that very obviously debases our currency and our national sovereignty?
Remember, folks. If your head is in stuck in the ground, it means your butt is in the air, and what good can come from assuming that position? Stand up for what you know is right. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

Sean| 6.27.09 @ 2:40AM

When has government ever overturned something like this once it is passed? If the current crop of mainstream Republican ever get a majority again you are more likely to see additions to this legislation than it being repealed. Sort of like Medicare and Department of Education. The grassroots Republican party members better wake up and stop pushing the Bush McRomneys as leaders.

DanNY| 6.27.09 @ 7:06AM

I wrote soemthing about John McHugh last night:

http://nygoe.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/congressman-john-mchugh-judas-to-become-secretary-of-the-army/

Tenn Slim| 6.27.09 @ 8:13AM

All
OK, on to the Senate. We know the culprits here. My Dem Rep actually voted NO, HOO RAH.
Next up, Educattion reform, Immigration, the press for OBNA never ends. REMEMBER OLD SAUL Alinsky's basic rule. "Divert, never admit failure, smear, press continuously. " We, the Conservative base, have made one goal line stand. Now, we are called on again. HOLD FAST.
Semper Fi
end

America in decline| 6.27.09 @ 10:19AM

Bold and ambitious American policy is usually best remembered not for the intended, but the unintended consequences. There can be no doubt, cap and tax will be no different. America already has the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. It also is an expensive place to do business: high costs associated with health care, litigation, federal and state regulatory costs. Piling another tax onto businesses simply makes American goods and services that much more expensive and as a result, that much less competitive. This will merely excerbate the trade deficit as demand for lower costs goods from abroad increases and demand for American goods declines. Further, with China and India having no interest in a cap and trade system, on a macro scale, decreasing greenhouse emissions within the US does very little. As for jobs: cap and trade promotes off shoring and out sourcing to avoid the costs of cap and trade. The idea that by taxing emissions highly will start a green job boom is flawed. Markets will innovate when both technology and economic incentive is there. Government cannot force this to occur. It will only get in the way of progess as is the norm. If you want to see where cap and trade is designed to go see Rep. WAXMANS 300 pg Amendment. Scary, strange, complex, and useless (much like Americas income tax). In short, I have just about lost faith in ordinary Americans' desire to be free from unnecessary and obstrusive government policy and more importantly, I have no hope that the gulf of disconnect between citizens and their elected officials shall ever be bridged. This bill sucks!!!

Oldefarte| 6.27.09 @ 1:01PM

I beg my fellow conservatives in the states of these eight to vote AGAINST their re-election-------this is the only way/method to effectively fight against this Obama/Democrat insanity that is upon us all!!!!!!!!!!!!

jJAMES HARVEY| 6.27.09 @ 3:12PM

What more reason to get people out of the house to vote these idiots out of office. With the present recession we do not need more taxes or energy costs.

LCA| 6.27.09 @ 4:31PM

I am the one who created the above Photoshop wanted list that Michelle Maklin is linking to. Please give proper credit. My website is linked to this message.

Paul Feinberg| 6.27.09 @ 5:45PM

Idiocy becomes our Congress. They ignore real scientific data, the actual projected combined effects (or non-effects in light of China and India in non-compliance with these goals) of such activities having an impact on the climate (taking the most rosiest view of the real data), and the consequent economic disaster this activity invites. Everyone of the "stupid elite" who voted for this "tax and trade" should reap the reward of removal from their office in the next election. With double digit employment on the near horizon, reams of scientific data indicating that man-made CO2 plays no role in temperature change, and the moronic socialized medicine on deck by the liberal "thinkers", we Americans stand to pay a very heavy price, possibly the ultimate price, as far as our country is concerned. In one sense however, the Americans who were stupid enough to vote for Obama and this like-minded ilk are reaping their consequent reward. It's a lesson that may cost us all dearly.

Paul Feinberg| 6.27.09 @ 5:46PM

Idiocy becomes our Congress. They ignore real scientific data, the actual projected combined effects (or non-effects in light of China and India in non-compliance with these goals) of such activities having an impact on the climate (taking the most rosiest view of the real data), and the consequent economic disaster this activity invites. Everyone of the "stupid elite" who voted for this "tax and trade" should reap the reward of removal from their office in the next election. With double digit employment on the near horizon, reams of scientific data indicating that man-made CO2 plays no role in temperature change, and the moronic socialized medicine on deck by the liberal "thinkers", we Americans stand to pay a very heavy price, possibly the ultimate price, as far as our country is concerned. In one sense however, the Americans who were stupid enough to vote for Obama and this like-minded ilk are reaping their consequent reward. It's a lesson that may cost us all dearly.

owenzio| 6.27.09 @ 8:53PM

Folks,

All this hotair, churning, and foolish talk about reducing global warming. Are ya kidding with India and China and South America, they are not gonna do squat in this area. We are pis__ng in the wind.

The only technologically sound answer to our energy dependence on foriegn countries is one that is within our grasp if we only had the will>>>its NUCLEAR POWER.

Nuclear Power is the only safe, clean , available 24/7, source of power all possible within the good ol' USA. Nothing else meets those criteria. Not solar, not wind, not hydro, not natural gas. Yea sorry Natural gas is not safe - handling and storing it kills and maims many people each year. Nuclear power has not accounted for one fatality in 30-plus years of 100-plus 1000-Megawatt plants. And don't let anybody tell you the used fuel ("nuclear waste") has hurt anybody, it has not. The volume of the used fuel for all the nuclear power plants is less than 2 football fields stacked about 20 feet high. the volume is very very very small compared to the waste from coal plants which we dump into the atmosphere and get to breathe in (causing 20,000 or more excess lung cancer deaths each year in the US).

Let's get on with building 100 or more new nuclear power plants and start converting to electric and natural gas powered transportation (cars, buses, trains). It justs takes the will of Congress to make this happen. Ask them to do this now.

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