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Murphy| 5.25.09 @ 1:06PM

Excellent cartoon. It's good to see it here.

A frequent "message" of tea-party protesters was that we now live under "tyranny" or even "fascism."

I'm sure those who fought and died for this country and its democratic institutions would be puzzled and pained to learn their sacrifice was in vain.

Oldefarte| 5.25.09 @ 1:55PM

Murphy: Those who faught and died in our military did so to prevent this country from the "tyranny" and "fascism" of dictators such as Hitler, Hussein,etc. They did not fight to save your "democratic institutions", ie the Democrat Party, Acorn, Rainbow Push,etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old Texican| 5.25.09 @ 2:05PM

In the words of my pioneer grandfather, "A lot of those boys died HARD! Lord giv'em one last place in your place".

My thoughts and prayers exactly. Most of those men that fought in WWI and II grew up in poverty, but in a freedom worth defending.

Our more recent fallen still fought for that same freedom.
I wonder what their comrade's thoughts and actions will be, (heck, are at this moment), as they hear about vets providing their own private health care or vets accused of being potential terrorists.
Murphy's law:
That is NOT our message. Our message is that we SHALL NOT LIVE UNDER TYRANNY OR FASCISM IN THE FUTURE.
A few of us already see the future consequences of what is happening in DC. Heck, we saw it in California last week. The voters voted NO, so the rest of us (productive persons) will probably wind up bailing their gubmint out too without our consent.
Call it what you will...that is "boss-government".

Richard Baker| 5.25.09 @ 2:19PM

Murphy:
If you don't know what fascism and tyranny are then you ARE part of the problem. Your lot would have been bothered by the original Tea Party in 1773. I see that enslavement by a tyrannical government doesn't seem to concern you. As a Virginian, I'll stand with Washington, Jefferson, and George Mason against the Saul Alinskys of this world.

Murphy| 5.25.09 @ 2:58PM

Still ... It is rank ingratitude to sit safe at home protected by the most liberal and successful democracy in human history and complain you live under totalitarian fascism.

I don't think you people know what you're saying when you make these complaints, nor do I think you understand the nature of the sacrifice men made that we honor today.

Fart --

By "democratic institutions" (note the small d) I do not mean the Democratic party. I know it's a complicated concept, but the word "democratic" and its cognates are impressed into the service of many different kinds of semiotic functions.

Democratic institutions include our election procedures, our judicial system, our Constitution, and all of our laws.

The first tea-party happened when men were not represented in their government.

While it is understandable to express -- occasionally -- outrage at government overreaching by the use of hyperbole, at some point (and why not on Memorial Day?), you have to get ahold of your words and use them properly.

Last November we had an election. You were able to organize, to campaign, to rant and rave and carry on, to attend Palin rallies and shout "treason" at the mention of Obama's name -- really almost anything you liked, within the law. You were not denied your franchise; you were able to vote for whom you chose.

You live in a representative democracy. It won't always go your way; it's messy, confusing, and maddening; it doesn't always work; it's never pure, never simple, never perfect, and never even all that rational. But you should cut out talk that you live under fascism, because it dishonors those who endured actual fascism, as well as those who died fighting to destroy it.

Old Texican| 5.25.09 @ 3:30PM

Murphy
I am going to take you seriously this ONE LAST TIME!
Do you drive a car?
Do you ever look beyond the taillights of the car in front of you?
Just yesterday...I led a whole string of traffic behind me onto the road shoulder to dodge a fellow who was coming toward us...and who had lost control of his car.
I was dodging him out of my own "self interest".
All the cars behind me mimicked my dive to the shoulder.
No one will ever know how many lives I saved when I saw him lose control...a quarter mile ahead of me at a close rate of nearly 140 miles per hour.
Bud, I am very fortunate to have seen him "lose it".
I am very fortunate to be in a position to see our governing people "lose it", and understand what is happening...just in time to maybe keep it from happening.
If you close your eyes I can't help you.
Please, for your own sake...follow me to the shoulder.
I am forty years or so ahead of you in traffic. I watch carefully for on-coming folks who lose it, accidentally...or on purpose.
Writing here like this puts me on lots of "lists".
I do it anyway for youngsters who have not been here before.
(See, once again I am taking you at your word that you are simply young/myopic and not a fifth columnist for the murderors that have taken our government.)
They are murderors. Please make no mistake!

They murder us "softly...with their words..."
(Old song you won't remember).
Finally, Sir, you are conversing with a person "who fought...and might very well die...fighting to destroy fascism."

I hope you survive. Perhaps you can whisper many of these same words to your grandchildren.
God bless and keep you and yours.
Old Texican

Ran| 5.25.09 @ 3:51PM

Yogi, thanks for the reminder.

Murph, just shove it for a day, will ya? Better people than you risk their lives and have given their lives so that mamzerim such as yourself could waste yours.

Richard Baker| 5.25.09 @ 6:52PM

To Murphy:
Is it delusional to study history and note the similarities between the decay of previous civilizations and correlate that history to what is happening about us? Tyranny is related to the actions of tyrants. Whether they be Democrat, Republican, Fascist, Nazi, or Communist, tyranny is adequately described in history and in the dictionary. Try to remember that your lot described Bush and Cheney as if they intended to throw the entire US system away. The Kenyan in the White House has spoken openly in tyrannical terms, or haven't you been listening? Remember his intention to put the coal industry out of business? Or did that slip your mind?

Murphy| 5.25.09 @ 7:04PM

Richard Baker --

The president is American; he's not a Kenyan. I know facts like this trouble the nervous membranes of your ideological enclosure, but the truth's the truth.

Now, I wouldn't say your historical surmises are "delusional," but they are filled with errors, weak suppositions, and needless confusion.

I'm not sure what you mean by my "lot," and I don't know what that has to do with tea-party people claiming we live under a fascist totalitarian government. It doesn't make the claim any more true or reasonable that some people said foolish things about Bush.

Richard Baker| 5.25.09 @ 7:40PM

Murphy:
If he's "natural born" as the Constitution requires, why has he spent about $1 million to fight, in court, against revealing his true birth certificate which resides in Honolulu? Or did you miss that? All Obama has to do to is allow the Governor of Hawaii to release the record and this will all make his critics look bad, don't you agree?. Regardless of any judge, as a citizen in a constitutional republic, we ALL have standing in this manner. I guess that his grandmother's statement that she was present at his birth, in Kenya, holds no credence. Silly old woman, I guess.

No one is saying that we live under a fascist or totalitarian system. If you would read the Constitution, you'd notice that it a system of limits on the Federal government. And...Obama has said that he finds the Constitution too limiting. Or did you miss that, as well? You really need to do a little research.

ruth| 5.25.09 @ 8:49PM

Murphy/Jeremiah, you have more nerve posting on a thread honoring our military after you accused our brave soldiers of being war criminals on an earlier thread. You are a dog.

Nolan Ryan| 5.25.09 @ 8:54PM

Strange I don't remember this "cartoon" making any appearances when the leftists were actually protesting the military and their role in OIF and OEF. I must have been out of the country when they hit the editorial pages.

Daisy| 5.26.09 @ 12:03AM

Awesome cartoon. Tea Party/Washington DC--July 4, 2009!! Honor our heroes who have fought and died for our freedom!

Floyd Looney | 5.26.09 @ 3:04AM

seems to me that dissent was patriotic a few months ago. Now its anti-American to question bad government policies?

Deborah D | 5.26.09 @ 4:55AM

Want to know what former Reagan Administration special assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence, Herbert E. Meyer, has to say about what's happening today? He says we're experiencing a revolution. I couldn't agree more.

Read it here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/revolution.html

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