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The Senate has voted to block President Obama from transferring prisoners detained at Guantanamo Bay to the United States.

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Murphy| 5.20.09 @ 2:48PM

Republicans have succeeded in intimidating Harry Reid into accepting the absurd, abolutely ludicrous notion that 224 detainees cannot safely be housed in the United States, a nation that successfully manages to incarcerate more people than any other country in the world.

Republicans' public fearful fretting about detainees being brought to the states is a shameless political stunt offered in considerable bad faith. The shame is that Democrats continue to have leaders in Congress who are easily manipulated by shallow hacks in search of the next cheap political point.

We are becoming a nation of spineless non-persons, and it's a goddamn shame.

Big J| 5.20.09 @ 2:49PM

Maybe the evil Booosh and Cheney weren't that far off, after all, eh Mr. President?

Let's see, now:

Stop military tribunals for detainees, no start them back up again.

The troop surge in Iraq didn't work, but let's apply that strategy to Afghanistan.

Stop wire taps, no, maybe not.

Close Gitmo, no better not do that. What ever would we do with the suspected terrorists?

Running the country is not nearly as easy as the previous 43 presidents made it look, is it Obama?

JerseyJ| 5.20.09 @ 3:07PM

Murphy ... "Republicans' public fearful fretting about detainees being brought to the states is a shameless political stunt offered in considerable bad faith. "

Good for the goose and all that. Libs best get used to taking what you dish.

Murphy| 5.20.09 @ 4:15PM

JerseyJ --

If "the Democrats do it too" is the best defense you've got for Republican behavior, then no wonder the Republicans are even lamer than the Democrats.

Mary| 5.20.09 @ 6:39PM

Two men are responsible for this: Vice-President Dick Cheney and Senator James Webb.

They may be at odds with one another; they may even dislike one another, but they are patriots first and always. I’d trust the Country in the hands of either one of them.

President Obama finds himself in this prone position because 1) he’s a theoretician, first and always, and, 2) his following on this issue is an influential force, one he doesn’t want arraying and petrifying against him.

His callow understanding of war and terrorism led him to behave precipitously, hence his Executive Order “closing” Gitmo. He didn’t align himself with knowledgeable, patriotic, bipartisan men. He aligned himself with woolly headed ideologues who wouldn’t know the first thing about dealing with issues outside of their theories. They're perfumed and protected, which accounts for the luxury of theorizing. They’re poseurs when measured against men like Cheney and Webb.

Here’s what our Director of the FBI said concerning the transfer/release of detainees to the U.S.:

***Pressed about whether detainees would pose a risk if held in a maximum security prison, such as Colorado's Supermax, Mueller said he doubts anyone sent there could escape. But he added, "In gang activity around the country, using it as an analogy, there are individuals in our prisons today who operate their gangs from inside the walls of prison. So while there may not be the opportunity to escape, there may still be the risk."

Mueller also said any detainees released into the U.S. by judges who deem them no longer dangerous would very likely be subjected to FBI surveillance.

"To the extent that persons who have some background in either supporting, facilitating, or training with terrorists, it would present a concern to which we would maximize our efforts to minimize and mitigate that concern, whether it be by surveillance or wires [wiretaps] or other efforts to assure that we have minimized that concern."

Mueller's comments differed from the assurances given to the same committee last week by Attorney General Eric Holder. He said no terrorists would ever be released into the U.S.***

Obama needs (not wants, needs!) to cut Vice-President Cheney off at the pass. Hence, this attempt at upstaging.

My plea to Cheney is to continue doing what he’s doing, and continue priming his daughter for same. He has been in government for how many years now? How many years of knowledge does he have? 50? It’s vast. He worked with the first President Bush who was head of the CIA.

This administration cannot be trusted on this issue because they politicized it from day one.

May VP Cheney's health hold and his tribe increase.

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