Senate Republicans say they will use every parliamentary tactics in the book to really punish the Dems if the Dems push through health care nationalization via "reconciliation" that unfairly limits debate, etc., utterly against all Senate tradition on what the reconciliation process is for. I won't believe it until I see it. They (GOP senators) have made such pledges many times before, but they always capitulate like emasculated chihuahuas when the time comes to really act. That's what they did in mulitiple failed battles (or non-battles, because they didn't really fight on judges. And, considering that it is dififficult for invertebrates to find spines, that's what i fully expect again: Craven capitulation without having achieved much of anything. I sure hope I'm wrong.