A new self-described "right-wing" student group,
Youth for Western
Civilization, has caused controversy at the University of
North Carolina by bringing to campus two Republican congressmen,
Tom Tancredo of Colorado and Virgil
Goode of Virginia, to talk about illegal immigration. In both
cases, liberal student protesters disrupted the events.
Well, if she's speaking about what an awful thing she did,
basically trashing herself, I wouldn't object. But I doubt it.
Timothy L. Pennell| 4.23.09 @ 9:02AM
Look. Folks on the right, have no-one to blame, but themselves.
What's good for the goose. Go disrupt THEIR speakers. Start
charging THEIR stage. Like the 911 Commision said: They were at
WAR with us, but we weren't at WAR with them. Stop crying like a
buncha women, and start fighting back, like MEN. THAT'S the only
way.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 9:27AM
Timothy,
What awful advice for conservatives! There is a lot to be said
for civility, and even for extending it in public to people who
don't have the capacity to return it.
When you break up somebody else's meeting, you're fitting in to a
story about them. When somebody else breaks up your meeting,
they're fitting into a story about you. One of those things is
better than the other, just pragmatically, and and all of the
benefits of being civil are just gravy.
Crusader| 4.23.09 @ 9:36AM
"Youth For Western Civilization."
Hmmmmmm.
Sounds like a rightwing domestic terrorist group. Maybe they
should have named themselves something innocuous, like "Islamic
Jihad." Groups like that get left alone by our gubmint.
Daisy| 4.23.09 @ 9:40AM
MattSwartz: Poster boy for whiny GOP wimps everywhere.
Pete| 4.23.09 @ 9:43AM
At the very least, bring sufficient security so that you can get
your message out.
If the GOP is considered to be wimps, they have brought that on
themselves with their behavior vis-a-vis the thuggish Leftwing
Democrats during the past 6 years. Trying so hard to be liked. I
don't give a rip if the left likes me! I do intend to conduct
myself in such a way that they RESPECT me or FEAR me! Respect me
because I have the courage of my convictions and fear me because
within that security I will kick butts and take names!
Smitty| 4.23.09 @ 10:25AM
Bravo, Gayle! Love your spirit.
Lily| 4.23.09 @ 10:27AM
I'm tired of liberal thugs, too.
Basil Plumley| 4.23.09 @ 10:32AM
Well stated Gayle!
Do you have a sister/relative named Ruth?
I pity the Lib-misogynists (like Bob) who will try to take you
down with his "superior education".
ruth| 4.23.09 @ 10:58AM
Gayle must be my long lost twin. Good morning, Basil P. :)
ruth| 4.23.09 @ 11:01AM
I think Blob's gone. Haven't been graced by his presence for a
while.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 1:19PM
Apparently here, everyone is either a "wimp" or "Jacobin" on this
issue.
I don't care who calls me a wimp, but I care a lot if
conservatism starts adopting the methods of the French Revolution
rather than the American one.
Anyone willing to break up a meeting and suppress somebody else's
peaceful, nonviolent (and I'd add non-pornographic) speech is
merely proving that they don't know how to behave in a civil
society. I have more in common with liberals who sit and discuss
issues calmly (there are not many of these) than I do with
self-proclaimed conservatives who justify the throwing of chairs
at other people's heads just because their targets are
"liberals".
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 1:44PM
Being too conservative for Burke. It's the new version of being
too Catholic for the Pope, and apparently there's an epidemic of
it in these comment threads.
I don't belong at HuffPo, I belong at The American Conservative,
which is a better magazine than AmSpec.
They update their blog too slowly, though, so you're stuck with
me. It must be annoying how often I get things right about
conservatism that RushBots get wrong, though.
Yes, civility is important for conservatives. The University
needs to provide adequate security to keep their students under
control. But if the University fails to do that, then there is
something to be said for Youth for Western Civilization providing
their own security. And something to be said for sticking it out.
I thought it looked bad that Tancredo left the last time after
the window was broken. The mindset should be we're here and we're
having our meeting, and if you want me to shut up or leave then
you come down here and make me. My money is on a significantly
numerically inferior group of conservatives against a bunch of
whiney tofu eating libs. I would protest outside their lib
meetings, but I wouldn't attempt to disrupt them.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 10:26PM
Red,
You've got it all wrong. As Conservatives who are Right, it is
our obligation to put a stop to people who think differently. If
they're giving aid and comfort to the enemy, we should probably
waterboard them immediately...
JosephineSouthern| 5.2.09 @ 1:43PM
What has happened to Chapel Hill?
You got this all backwards,
A new self-described "right-wing" student group, Youth for
Western Civilization, has caused controversy at the University of
North Carolina
Becky| 4.23.09 @ 7:23AM
Well, if she's speaking about what an awful thing she did, basically trashing herself, I wouldn't object. But I doubt it.
Timothy L. Pennell| 4.23.09 @ 9:02AM
Look. Folks on the right, have no-one to blame, but themselves. What's good for the goose. Go disrupt THEIR speakers. Start charging THEIR stage. Like the 911 Commision said: They were at WAR with us, but we weren't at WAR with them. Stop crying like a buncha women, and start fighting back, like MEN. THAT'S the only way.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 9:27AM
Timothy,
What awful advice for conservatives! There is a lot to be said for civility, and even for extending it in public to people who don't have the capacity to return it.
When you break up somebody else's meeting, you're fitting in to a story about them. When somebody else breaks up your meeting, they're fitting into a story about you. One of those things is better than the other, just pragmatically, and and all of the benefits of being civil are just gravy.
Crusader| 4.23.09 @ 9:36AM
"Youth For Western Civilization."
Hmmmmmm.
Sounds like a rightwing domestic terrorist group. Maybe they should have named themselves something innocuous, like "Islamic Jihad." Groups like that get left alone by our gubmint.
Daisy| 4.23.09 @ 9:40AM
MattSwartz: Poster boy for whiny GOP wimps everywhere.
Pete| 4.23.09 @ 9:43AM
At the very least, bring sufficient security so that you can get your message out.
Gayle Miller| 4.23.09 @ 10:22AM
If the GOP is considered to be wimps, they have brought that on themselves with their behavior vis-a-vis the thuggish Leftwing Democrats during the past 6 years. Trying so hard to be liked. I don't give a rip if the left likes me! I do intend to conduct myself in such a way that they RESPECT me or FEAR me! Respect me because I have the courage of my convictions and fear me because within that security I will kick butts and take names!
Smitty| 4.23.09 @ 10:25AM
Bravo, Gayle! Love your spirit.
Lily| 4.23.09 @ 10:27AM
I'm tired of liberal thugs, too.
Basil Plumley| 4.23.09 @ 10:32AM
Well stated Gayle!
Do you have a sister/relative named Ruth?
I pity the Lib-misogynists (like Bob) who will try to take you down with his "superior education".
ruth| 4.23.09 @ 10:58AM
Gayle must be my long lost twin. Good morning, Basil P. :)
ruth| 4.23.09 @ 11:01AM
I think Blob's gone. Haven't been graced by his presence for a while.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 1:19PM
Apparently here, everyone is either a "wimp" or "Jacobin" on this issue.
I don't care who calls me a wimp, but I care a lot if conservatism starts adopting the methods of the French Revolution rather than the American one.
Anyone willing to break up a meeting and suppress somebody else's peaceful, nonviolent (and I'd add non-pornographic) speech is merely proving that they don't know how to behave in a civil society. I have more in common with liberals who sit and discuss issues calmly (there are not many of these) than I do with self-proclaimed conservatives who justify the throwing of chairs at other people's heads just because their targets are "liberals".
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 1:44PM
Being too conservative for Burke. It's the new version of being too Catholic for the Pope, and apparently there's an epidemic of it in these comment threads.
I don't belong at HuffPo, I belong at The American Conservative, which is a better magazine than AmSpec.
They update their blog too slowly, though, so you're stuck with me. It must be annoying how often I get things right about conservatism that RushBots get wrong, though.
Red Phillips| 4.23.09 @ 5:03PM
Yes, civility is important for conservatives. The University needs to provide adequate security to keep their students under control. But if the University fails to do that, then there is something to be said for Youth for Western Civilization providing their own security. And something to be said for sticking it out. I thought it looked bad that Tancredo left the last time after the window was broken. The mindset should be we're here and we're having our meeting, and if you want me to shut up or leave then you come down here and make me. My money is on a significantly numerically inferior group of conservatives against a bunch of whiney tofu eating libs. I would protest outside their lib meetings, but I wouldn't attempt to disrupt them.
MattSwartz| 4.23.09 @ 10:26PM
Red,
You've got it all wrong. As Conservatives who are Right, it is our obligation to put a stop to people who think differently. If they're giving aid and comfort to the enemy, we should probably waterboard them immediately...
JosephineSouthern| 5.2.09 @ 1:43PM
What has happened to Chapel Hill?
You got this all backwards,
A new self-described "right-wing" student group, Youth for Western Civilization, has caused controversy at the University of North Carolina
THE LIBERAL CRAZIES caused the CONTROVERSY
Put their backs to the wall.
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