David Frum is, in my view,
correct about immigration policy. But good luck selling even
moderate restrictionism to Republican Party "modernizers." That's
not to say there aren't good reasons for reform-minded
Republicans to embrace such a position: it's compatible with the
goals of less income inequality, less cultural/linguistic
balkanization, and less racial polarization. Unfortunately, it is
also very easy for supporters of the Bush-McCain-Obama approach
to immigration to demagogue the issue and in turn whip up the
demagogues on the other side. It's the kind of debate
"modernizers" are temperamentally inclined to shy away
from. But perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised (though so
far the comments don't look that way).
Even Frum can be right from time to time. The problem is he's
made a name for himself as an idiot when he tried to read a bunch
of us out of the party. Such trash split the party and played a
large part in the debacles of 2006 and the Obamanation.
Having said that, the two groups that want illegal immigrants
want them for different reasona, but they make it hard to curb
the problem without an armed uprising. The Demonrats want 'em
because they are gentic socialists and vote the way the left
wingnuts want them to vote. The Chamber of Commerce types want
them for cheap labor. It matters not they are setting up their
own destruction, they still want it.
The sane rest of the population are becoming more angry by the
minute because they are being ignored in this, and other issues
of equal import. I don't know if the tea parties are a start of
something or not, but the road, historically , has led to civil
wars (true civil war - the 1861-65 war was not a civil war but a
war for southern independence for the south, and a war to crush
rebellion in the north). Regardless, the end will not be nice.
SiliconDoc| 4.19.09 @ 11:12AM
The republicans IMO are too stupid and afraid to realize if they
came down hardcore and did what it takes on the immigration
nightmare this nation is facing, they would come out far, far
ahead on it all well into the future.
But they are afraid, and foolish, and soft spined, and claim a
soft heart (when it's really their soft head and guilt ridden
insanity from whom knows where) and they got slapped down with an
uprising the entire republican blogosphere was EXTREMELY PROUD OF
and spoke of after the fact, and still mentions.
I gues it is true, the mental giants of immense self pleasure
will continue to beat the USA into a sick criminal declining pulp
of stupidity based upon their indoctrination mindset straight out
of the communist takeover manual.
I'm not sure how the republicans became the pathetic lying
creatures they already are - but make no mistake the respect for
you as a whole is nearly gone, and by creaming your manginas over
more of the same that was already PROUDLY SLAPPED DOWN BY
AMERICANS, you will go nowhere but backwards.
Welcome to the complete destruction of the USA at your own hands,
you complete idiots.
Forget rule of law, forget the borders, forget terrorism, forget
the national guard now part and parcel of the federal war machine
overseas, just forget the USA - you can and are doing it, and you
know better than ever your BASE, the American people.
I have faith you will completely blow it - and you will happily
secede the USA from itself under the democrat oligarchy arms of
congress - and get a big fat ZERO, your own people hating and
reviling you as they well should, and the party of racists
claiming their new 20 million voters with a soon to be 80 or 90
percent locked block forever - because you are SO STUPID you
cannot stand on PRINCIPLE, which would PROVE you stand against
racism, because that is also a PRINCIPLE, but since you have NO
PRINCIPLE, we all know - yes guess what idiots - you are
racists....
DUH.
You ignorant republican spewing leaders and pukeocracy cannot see
your own way out of a paper bag.
I hope the American people SLAP YOU HARDER because obviously it
didn't knock the crickets from your skulls yet.
PATHETIC was bush waiting till his last day or near so to release
the two border guards - THAT'S HOW BADLY YOU SUCK - COWARDS ON
THE WAY OUT THE DOOR - FINALLY ABLE TO MUSTER EXIT "COURAGE" -
which frankly really was probably completely misplaced
acquiesence to something you did not condone but couldn't help
but cave into - indicating your actual stance is so far off
justice and the rule of law, it's DISGUSTING to even comtemplate.
Tim| 4.17.09 @ 1:14PM
Who cares what David Frum thinks?
Quartermaster| 4.17.09 @ 6:37PM
Even Frum can be right from time to time. The problem is he's made a name for himself as an idiot when he tried to read a bunch of us out of the party. Such trash split the party and played a large part in the debacles of 2006 and the Obamanation.
Having said that, the two groups that want illegal immigrants want them for different reasona, but they make it hard to curb the problem without an armed uprising. The Demonrats want 'em because they are gentic socialists and vote the way the left wingnuts want them to vote. The Chamber of Commerce types want them for cheap labor. It matters not they are setting up their own destruction, they still want it.
The sane rest of the population are becoming more angry by the minute because they are being ignored in this, and other issues of equal import. I don't know if the tea parties are a start of something or not, but the road, historically , has led to civil wars (true civil war - the 1861-65 war was not a civil war but a war for southern independence for the south, and a war to crush rebellion in the north). Regardless, the end will not be nice.
SiliconDoc| 4.19.09 @ 11:12AM
The republicans IMO are too stupid and afraid to realize if they came down hardcore and did what it takes on the immigration nightmare this nation is facing, they would come out far, far ahead on it all well into the future.
But they are afraid, and foolish, and soft spined, and claim a soft heart (when it's really their soft head and guilt ridden insanity from whom knows where) and they got slapped down with an uprising the entire republican blogosphere was EXTREMELY PROUD OF and spoke of after the fact, and still mentions.
I gues it is true, the mental giants of immense self pleasure will continue to beat the USA into a sick criminal declining pulp of stupidity based upon their indoctrination mindset straight out of the communist takeover manual.
I'm not sure how the republicans became the pathetic lying creatures they already are - but make no mistake the respect for you as a whole is nearly gone, and by creaming your manginas over more of the same that was already PROUDLY SLAPPED DOWN BY AMERICANS, you will go nowhere but backwards.
Welcome to the complete destruction of the USA at your own hands, you complete idiots.
Forget rule of law, forget the borders, forget terrorism, forget the national guard now part and parcel of the federal war machine overseas, just forget the USA - you can and are doing it, and you know better than ever your BASE, the American people.
I have faith you will completely blow it - and you will happily secede the USA from itself under the democrat oligarchy arms of congress - and get a big fat ZERO, your own people hating and reviling you as they well should, and the party of racists claiming their new 20 million voters with a soon to be 80 or 90 percent locked block forever - because you are SO STUPID you cannot stand on PRINCIPLE, which would PROVE you stand against racism, because that is also a PRINCIPLE, but since you have NO PRINCIPLE, we all know - yes guess what idiots - you are racists....
DUH.
You ignorant republican spewing leaders and pukeocracy cannot see your own way out of a paper bag.
I hope the American people SLAP YOU HARDER because obviously it didn't knock the crickets from your skulls yet.
PATHETIC was bush waiting till his last day or near so to release the two border guards - THAT'S HOW BADLY YOU SUCK - COWARDS ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR - FINALLY ABLE TO MUSTER EXIT "COURAGE" - which frankly really was probably completely misplaced acquiesence to something you did not condone but couldn't help but cave into - indicating your actual stance is so far off justice and the rule of law, it's DISGUSTING to even comtemplate.