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Bob| 4.1.09 @ 11:03AM
Antle, please... It was a Republican Attorney General that convicted Stevens. Furthermore, the conviction was tossed out on a technicality. And it was a Democrat AG that followed the law. It just shows continued incompetence on the part of the Bush administration. You are trying to blame this on Obama when he had nothing to do with it. When Republicans can again be objective, analytical, competent, big tent and pro-education, they will win again because fiscal conservatism is needed in this country.
Basil Plumley| 4.1.09 @ 11:08AM
I won't lose much sleep over Ted Stevens being out of the Senate. He was one of the worst appropriators in Congress.
That being said, I also won't lose sleep that the Bush DOJ is no longer in charge. Their prosecution of Stevens, Libby, the two folks from AIPAC, as well as the "raid on Curt (Able Danger) Weldon's office a couple of weeks before the 06 election was embarrassing.
Somewhere, in the foggy memories of the past, I can hear W say "Help is on the way". For whom?
I would put the DOJ in the same category as much of the government/bureaucracy; politicized. That is a shame since justice should never be politicized.
tonypal| 4.1.09 @ 11:21AM
Bob:
While I agree with the latter part of your post, I'm trying to figure out where exactly in Mr. Antle's 17 word story he blames the Teleprompter administration for this mess.
W. James Antle III| 4.1.09 @ 12:08PM
Bob, I didn't mention Obama's name, did not say Stevens was innocent, and repeatedly wrote articles critical of Stevens during the 2008 election.
All I said was exactly what happened: the charges against Stevens were dropped because of DOJ misconduct. And I linked to an objective news report about the story. If I wrote bland, Bob-like headlines for my posts, no one would read them.
As usual, you are arguing with figments of your imagination while lecturing the rest of us to be more intelligent.
Basil Plumley| 4.1.09 @ 12:11PM
@ tonypal
Leave Bob alone. Perhaps, it was reading comprehension that kept Bob from gaining higher honors at Harvard.
I'll bet you didn't know that Bob is/was an uber-successful businessman.
Bill Bailey| 4.1.09 @ 2:19PM
Bob, you're an idiot.
Greg Moore| 4.1.09 @ 2:35PM
Mr Plumly, You have no right to comment on Ted Stevens. He was not your Senator, he was mine and for the State of Alaska he did exactly what we asked him to do. In Alaska the Federal Governement owns the majority of the land and the resources attached to the land. We kept Senator Stevens in office to protect our interests and ensure that we received fair treatment in congress. I personally pray that Ted Stevens runs for Governor of Alaska. He has my vote and many other loyal Alaskan's.
ruth| 4.1.09 @ 3:12PM
Stupid Party strikes (itself) again.
Bobby| 4.1.09 @ 3:28PM
Tonypal, Bill, Basil,
Look, guys, I was just kidding, OK? I didn't study at Harvard. (They have this hang-up about grades.) I wasn't a Ranger in Vietnam. (I was a corporal in the mess where I served. Burgers.) I never made a dime in business as an entrepreneur, because I'm still too busy, um, flipping burgers. I didn't translate - at age 10 - the Old Testament from the "original Aramaic," kuz, as you know, it wuz in Hebrew. And, yeah, I've been banned from Hillyer's comments section for my lies, and I've earned a sorry reputation as a troll.
Then Antle comes along and logically parses my stuff. It's all just not fair. Im, like, way smarter than you wingnuts.
Ran| 4.1.09 @ 3:44PM
I must admit that Bob is usually right. I never finished high school and it shows. The original bible does have some Aramaic in it but I'll never admit that is true. Bob could have posted in Quin's blogs, but I'm sure he didn't want to deal with Quin's thin skin.
I apologize to all.
Bob| 4.1.09 @ 3:54PM
Antle, what is the reason to bring this up if not to implicate Obama's administration? If you think Stevens was guilty, then he received what he deserved and you should not be sorry that Republicans lost the seat. Using inference is a common tactic among partisan bloggers, and you know it. There are a number of ways to treat this subject properly without such misleading inferences. For example, you could have said something like, "Obama's Administration Lets Steven Go". "If a Democrat were not elected to his Senate seat, they might have pursued this further".
If you didn't attempt to use inference here, you're not as good as I thought you were.
ruth| 4.1.09 @ 4:03PM
How old are you guys--about 10? I'm embarrassed for you.
ECM| 4.1.09 @ 5:36PM
Hey Bob,
Do ya know what "snark" is?
If Antle wrote articles critical of Stevens, the logical inference is that it was a joke, but that doesn't comport with the little hobgoblins that lurk in the soft, gooey, fever swamp that is your gray matter, does it?
Ran| 4.1.09 @ 5:53PM
"Any citizen can be convicted if prosecutors are hell-bent on ignoring the Constitution and willing to present false evidence"
Senator Steven's case is beginning to sound rather like the Duke Lacrosse fiasco. One wonders if Campean and Ramos will ultimately be cleared, too? Then again, Reno did little to clear Koresh, yeh?
What most concerns me is the Internationalist tendencies of the present mindset at Justice. These guys are so committed to the limits imposed by the Constitution? It's tough enough keeping Connecticut's Blumenthal to follow existing law.
Ruth,
Yeah, I have a few immature tendencies in me. Laughing at Bobby's Walter Mitty routine is one of them. [Right. Quit now before I get disinvited to post here.
Basil Plumley| 4.1.09 @ 6:01PM
@ Greg Moore
I understand what Stevens means to you but you have to understand that the rest of the country was not very happy with the profligate spending coming out of DC. Stevens became the poster child for spending and arrogance. Oddly, Murtha wears that mantle today.
Other than that, I have no other issues with Stevens. Like Ray Donovan, I hope he find where to get back his reputation.
I find it odd that the Bush DOJ went after Stevens and other members of the GOP but still did not tried William Jefferson and indictments/investigations of Mollohan and Murtha have incredibly not borne fruit despite the overwhelming stench.
BTW, aren't we coming up on the 4 year anniversary of Tom Delay's indictment? Could someone tell me when that trial starts? Last I heard, Delay was ready but Ronnie Earle (who thankfully has finally retired) has delayed (pun) the trial. I seem to recall some lawyer friends telling me that justice delayed is justice denied.
Bob
Just admit you have been AmSpecked. It would do you a lot of good. Your last response was embarrassing and weak.
W. James Antle III| 4.1.09 @ 6:43PM
Bob, you're not very good with "inferences." Perhaps you should just stick to commenting on what people actually write?
ruth| 4.1.09 @ 7:47PM
Bob lives in an alternate universe--just wish he'd stay there.
ruth| 4.1.09 @ 7:54PM
Forget it, Ran--no way AmSpec would disinvite you. If they let Blobbo post, and many of those other freaks, I'm sure you have no worries. I can't talk, anyway--sometimes I ask myself who wrote the post that I'd just submitted.
caffeine head| 4.4.09 @ 7:56PM
the justice system is partially fault in the Steven's case, but then it would seem that the public's short attention span might also be at fault in this and similar scenarios