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In recent weeks, I've spent time pondering the question of what has gone amiss with American manhood, and it's good to see that some people appreciate it:

For an involved discussion on the feminization of the modern man, start with RS McCain, then go to Melissa Clouthier, then back to Mr. McCain, who calls men cowards for not standing up to the women who would squash them.

Ah, for the good old days of The Dark Night of Patriarchal Oppression:

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Angel| 3.21.09 @ 3:49PM

I blame the feminization of the American male on white liberal men. Feminazis couldn't have succeeded in their efforts without these fine specimens of manhood. Weenies.

Jeremiah| 3.21.09 @ 4:36PM

Wasn't it Rush Limbaugh who was pulled out of an airport line for carrying Viagra to a country known for its skintrade?

I'm a white liberal man. I don't need that stuff. Who really is the new castrati?

What about Ted Haggard and all the other closet-cases harbored by the Big Tough Real Men of the Republican party?

When men brag about their masculinity -- well, we all know what that means.

The questions remains, why does Mr McCain feel his manhood is threatened?

ruth| 3.21.09 @ 5:20PM

Jeremiah, Angel is specifically referring to you. You are the white liberal weenie archetype. Sorry, babe.

Jeremiah| 3.21.09 @ 5:32PM

I wonder what view of "American manhood" one gets just from reading out three greatest literary figures (not including Emily Dickinson): Melville, Emerson, and Whitman.

A critic once famously wrote that one could learn more about sex watching any sitcom than reading all of Emerson, the Sage of Concord. Whitman's Leaves of Grass is a paean to homosexual love (amid many other forms of erotic love), and Moby Dick -- let's just say it ventures far from what we usually consider normative heterosexual "manhood."

Jeremiah| 3.21.09 @ 5:34PM

Ruth --

Clearly you believe that I'm the sort of man that turns to others to have my masculinity to confirmed.

You're mistaking me with your conservative friends.

ruth| 3.21.09 @ 5:51PM

Jeremiah, 'Thou doth protest too much'. LOL! Also, trust me--no way do I mistake you with the Conservative men in my life. You know I still luv ya, though.

Ron Robinson| 3.21.09 @ 10:15PM

I saw a very sad video recently (alas, I don’t remember where, because I found it so revolting) where a clergyman turned to the camera halfway thru an interview and exhorted young men not to break up with their girlfriends. That was enough for me; I surfed on with a vaguely disgusted feeling…

For 3 or 4 generations now, most fathers, especially ‘educated’ ones, have not made it a priority to try to pass mature masculine values along to their sons. After all, sons no longer spend most of their days in the company of their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, and older cousins. We send them to school instead. Trivial masculine behaviors abound, but deep abiding traditional masculine values seem to be much more rare these days.

Most of those rare sons who suspect the ‘oversight’ and wish to develop true mature masculine values have quite a task in front of them. Most just clan up and practice laddish behavior and agree to co-sign each others’ BS false masculinity.

Forging true independent nature masculinity happens fastest in battle. As Gable said, it’s about winning many small battles with honor and not making a big deal about it. Yes, combat does it best, but the many small social battles we fight every day can serve as well; it just takes longer.

Guys, if your girlfriend is calling up all her chums and bragging all about you, then you are in very deep trouble. In a couple of years she will wail ‘what happened to the man I met??!!??’

A husband who applies honest husbandry however, can deliver 98-99% of what his woman says she wants, and make it look easy. If he is very clear about the man he has wanted to become and has progressed toward it, then he will also be very clear on the 1-2% where he will never budge – and that is the foundation of his mature masculinity, and his foundation for a successful relationship. With that, a woman can trust him. Without it, she can never trust him; and won’t.

Visit watchcenter.blogspot.com and click on ‘the men’ in the left menu for links to some phenomenal resources, quotes, stories, reviews and much more discussion of mature masculinity.

Heather| 3.21.09 @ 10:56PM

See, Jeremiah; Mr. Robinson is the Conservative man we women brag about. Bravo, Mr. Robinson--wish there were more like you.

John| 3.21.09 @ 11:16PM

I told my wife of 21 years, today... "You know y'all (meaning women in general) are just looking for wives..."

We had been talking about the lives of our sons, and daughter. My oldest is at a major east coast university, Dean's list, with a bright future ahead of him.... He shoots... loves football... is respectful to his teachers, loves God and attends Mass weekly... He works hard. I think (though I am a tad prejudice) that he is a nice looking young man with tons to offer a young woman...

Of course, when he shows up in a room full of available women... they all run screaming for the exits... Well, he's opinionated... He thinks too much... He talks too much... He's too conservative... One girl even told me... "We'll [he]'s a really nice guy... but too nice... and really... like... you know... he's such a GUY..."

In remembering that... I was talking with my beloved wife who was just helping me adjust a cervical collar (fresh neck surgery for a deteriorated compressed disk cause by football, or rappelling... or some such outdoor activity of my misspent youth) over my flannel shirt...

"You're such a redneck..." She says... "You weren't this much of one when we got married..." Then she paused... noting that I had been wearing jeans and flannel shirts for years before I ever met her... "Well, maybe not..."

Well I might be a redneck... but I am a redneck with money... I raised two boys to be men, one is there, and one is almost there... I raised them to be respectful of women.

I also taught them that women and men are not the same. That they are not equals in capabilities, talents, or desires. Which is the way God intended it to be. Where men are weak women are strong... Where women are weak men are strong. We were intended to be complementary and supplementary creatures that joined together for the common purpose of raising a family.

Well.. we were... I am not so sure anymore. Hence my proposition to my wife.... that women are so wrapped up in themselves that they want wives, not husbands... and men are driving themselves mad trying to be that way.

This modern confused crap isn't working anymore. Western society is committing suicide. Not being equal in affections does not mean not being equal in the eyes of the Almighty... and most certainly not in the Law.

And that is the only marginally PC thing that I will have to say about that.

Still a man at 50, and don't intend to be anything else --- John

Red Phillips| 3.22.09 @ 4:22PM

"When men brag about their masculinity -- well, we all know what that means."

No Jeremiah I'm not sure I do. Why don't you help me out a little? Would that be something like the guy who is always crowing about his own morally superior racial sensitivity and calling everyone else a racist is really very insecure about his own deep seated unegalitarian feelings? Something like that?

You want a model of a man? Your namesake would be a good place to start. Calling people to righteousness, like perhaps not killing their babies or harvesting them for research, and to return to the God of their Forefathers is a very manly activity. But who has time to save babies when there are people who belong to all white country clubs to condemn?

ruth| 3.22.09 @ 7:51PM

John, trust me; a lot of us ladies are NOT looking for wives. Too much estrogen can be deadly--I don't need more. Stay strong--good God in heaven, we need men like you. Don't worry about your son, he'll do fine--tell him never to lower his standards. The right girl will find him and they will build a good life together. My daughter is a blue-eyed, blonde stunner (sorry I couldn't resist) and she's also an opinionated Conservative (pro-life, too). She's also had her share of dustups with her college friends. I've given her the same advice--stay close to your God, keep your head up, and don't lower your standards. The right hottie will find you, and he will be forever!

Jim| 3.22.09 @ 8:03PM

Jeremiah,
If you choose to sit down to urinate so be it, no need to make straw man arguements to justify your homosexuality.

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