The American Spectator : The Spectacle Blog : Obama to the Rescue

les grossman| 2.10.09 @ 1:22PM

set up

Bobbi| 2.10.09 @ 1:34PM

Just a little nitpick thing, Mr. Klein. It's "Fort Myers," not "Fort Meyers." This is such a set up. I am sorry that the woman and her family are homeless. But it is not the government's responsibility to provide a roof over anyone's head. Does she not have any other family to turn to? How about a church? The government is not anyone's daddy.

Other Guy| 2.10.09 @ 1:36PM

What bout me? Myz unemployments chex only 25% what i was gettin at McJob -- when u goin cut me bigger chex

JEM95| 2.10.09 @ 1:44PM

My knee hurts President Obama. Can you heal it?

Jack McGavin| 2.10.09 @ 1:49PM

Can you say "When does the Second American Revolution begin"?

Bobbi| 2.10.09 @ 1:55PM

I am now ashamed to admit this. I am a resident of Buckingham, which is right next to Fort Myers. I don't know who these people are! I am hanging my head in shame.

Jack Black| 2.10.09 @ 1:55PM

I wish the 2nd american revolution would begin soon. Too bad I live in CA where 2nd Amendment Rights are limited. Too bad President Obama hates the 2nd Amendment. Soon it will be too late.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed...

BUY GUNS, EARLY AND OFTEN (oh wait its vote early and vote often).

Hgailey| 2.10.09 @ 1:59PM

I have a pain in my posterior. Suppose HRH the Prez could kiss it?

John| 2.10.09 @ 1:59PM

MEMO

FROM: Reality
TO: The One

SUBJ: Owning it.

All Hail the Obamessiah!!! All Hail!!!

You sign this check... you bought the pig in the poke. There is no blaming the devil Bush and the evil Republicans anymore.

You asked for it... You Got it...

Tiger184| 2.10.09 @ 1:59PM

Hoo-boy! Get on the gravy train, homeys!

I am gonna stay home and play video games all day long, just send the check, 'kay?

I quit producing today| 2.10.09 @ 2:05PM

Gonna put my feet up and get that unemployment check -- move back into mom's basement and play some Halo 3 --
Oh wait, Unca Barry didnt buy me an XBox 360 yet. Come to think of it he didnt buy me the game either.
_______
I found John Galt -- I executed him. --BHO

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 2:12PM

I want to go somewhere else and start a new country.

Via | 2.10.09 @ 2:15PM

I am certainly glad I am fortunate enough not to have to rely on any of the commenters for help. It makes me wonder what has made them so cynical and calloused.

Elliot| 2.10.09 @ 2:17PM

Yeah, everyone. Go ahead and mock sincerity. Mock someone that come from small means and made something of himself, only to try to help others in need. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This is why the republican party has turned into a complete joke.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:24PM

Via, the problem is too many people rely on the gubmint for help. I have no problem helping my fellow man, and I do through charitable giving and volunteer work. However to have 30% or so of my hard-earned $$$ taken from me at the point of a gun (unless you're Tim Geithner, then you get to run the IRS) so it can be spread around to non-productive leeches is a little, umm, disheartening.

Helping someone through a rough patch in their life is one thing. Cutting someone a check every two weeks is not helping them get back on their feet, it'subsidizing sloth.

Former FL resident| 2.10.09 @ 2:24PM

Via, I suspect they simply have no souls.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 2:26PM

One big loser nation, that's what we've got here, and I say this with the utmost sincerity. I'm not trying to be calloused or cynical or trying to mock anyone, but you liberals are a big joke. Ever try to rely on yourself when you're in trouble? I know it's a novel concept to you, folks, but try it once, it might work and you might not be so ashamed of yourselves anymore. At least I wouldn't be so ashamed of you.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:27PM

Elliot, did the prez whip out his wallet and offer up his own $$$ to help this lady? No. He is taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers. If you weren't dependent on welfare to feed your 6 kids and they baby mommas you might see the implicit unfairness in this.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 2:27PM

Yes, that's right, we have no souls, we are the walking dead.

Sue| 2.10.09 @ 2:30PM

Elliot: You missed the point. If Obama helps her, then who's next? I have been in a similar situation as Henrietta Hughes. There's soooo much help in America for people who need help, thanks to great Americans who donate their time and money. It is NOT the government's responsibility to rescue her. PS I finally got a job, put myself self through college (worked during these years) and have an advanced degree in social work. Had the government rescued me, I have no doubt I wouldn't be typing these words.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 2:30PM

Crusader, watch your attitude, your tone. Don't be so judgmental. You must comply with our country's new sensitivity. Appliances for everyone!

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:32PM

Ruth, I don't know if I would call the welfare recipients losers. I mean to me it seems they have won life's lottery. They get to be perpetual children and get paid to boot.

Elliot| 2.10.09 @ 2:33PM

I'm sorry, are you guys struggling to pay the bills? Well, guess what, this stimulus plan is for you too! You'll get relief too. If you're not struggling and you are rich, but think our duty as a country is to sweep the sick, unemployed and homeless under the carpet then you really need to take a look in the mirror. I don't know what kind of idealist imagination you live in, but history has proved time and time again that selfish behavior such as that will just result is disaster. Time to face reality, folks.

joe.attaboy| 2.10.09 @ 2:33PM

Well, we don't need to worry...the media will certainly do a swift and detailed examination of this woman's story and will reveal all the sordid details of how the government failed her in the first place...you know, just like they way they "looked into" our pal, Joe The Plumber.

Oh, wait, Joe supported McCain, didn't he?

Sorry....

In all seriousness, this whole thing stinks. Why do I have images of Bill Clinton making the cross of rocks on Normandy, on a beach where there are no rocks?

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:35PM

Sorry Ruth I am just a soul-less cretin who thinks I should get to keep the money I make so I can spend it on, I dunno, food and clothes for my kids instead of 40s and Black 'n Milds for DeKwan.

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Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:44PM

(Cue ET voice) El-lee-ot, I will type slowly so you can hopefully understand.

It. doesn't. matter. if. I. am. not. struggling. to. pay. my. bills. It. is. none. of. your. business. how. much. money. I. make. If. you. don't. want. to. struggle. then. instead. of. rims. for. your. Impala. pay. your. electric. bill.

In all seriousness Elliot the point is in America, the cool thing about it is the person with the most influence on your destiny is----YOU! I have a brother who is content to make juuust enough money to pay his bills and put gas in his car and eat. He's happy. He could do better but at least he isn't crying to the gubmint to give him money. Me, I want better things so I try to do the things (education, save, don't spend more than I make, sacrifice, etc) to allow me to purchase those things I want. When your messiah's gubmint takes away from me to give to you then I can't. In America, I am not responsible for whether or not you or your kids and they baby mommas go to bed hungry. You are.

How come "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply in this country economically?

Elliot| 2.10.09 @ 2:44PM

I'm sorry, I'm just blown away. The government shouldn't help it's suffering citizens? Seriously, what world are you guys living in? Are you telling me that if you were laid off from your job, got evicted and were forced to live in you car with your kids, you would refuse any type of help from the government? You'd let your family suffer over that ideology? No way. It's simply not true.

sre| 2.10.09 @ 2:46PM

When 51% can vote themselves goodies from the other 49% and enforce that taking through the strong arm of the government, it's pretty much the end of the game.

Gosh, it happened so fast.

Elliot| 2.10.09 @ 2:53PM

I give up. Crusader, you're a flat out bigot. Unfortunately, for the Republican party, people like you have become their voice. So, go complain until you're red in the face. Luckily, people like you are a dying breed. You are shrinking minority, pal. In 20 years, they'll look back on people like you the same when we look at klan members. If that's how you want to be remembered, so be it. Sounds like a pretty horrible existence. Enjoy.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 2:56PM

Elliot, most folks who are responsible have a "disaster plan" in place for if something like you describe happens. We have "Plan B's" so to speak.

Number one, if I were to ever get laid off my family wouldn't starve for a while, due to savings.

Number two, I have enough in savings to pay they mortgage for a few months, so I wouldn't get evicted right away or be forced to live in my car. (In your scenario you forgot to mention what happens when you live in your car and the repo man comes and takes it. Just lookin' out.)

It's called "planning." Look into it! You plan a disaster and then if/when the disaster hits you are prepared to ride it out until it's over. Kinda like I live on the coast so I have bottled water and food stocked up for hurricane season. Same principle.

Back to your scenario, I am fully confident if disaster struck me like you said I could find SOME type of work to get me back on my feet. Or, sell some possessions to help me through.

It's called hope. Perseverance. Some presidential candidate talked about it alot before he was inaugurated, but now he's all doom and gloom. Hmmm.

LoriInWa| 2.10.09 @ 2:59PM

Elliot, it doesn't say anything about charity in the constitution for a reason. What you liberals don't understand is it is not the government's place to FORCE people to be charitable. If you give 10% of your gross income to charity, THEN you can start whining about the evil, soul-less right. Until then, shut your pie hole and get an education...starting HERE:

http://fee.org/nff/not-yours-to-give/

I don't tell you how to spend your money and you NOR the government have the right to tell me how to spend mine!!!

Sean| 2.10.09 @ 2:59PM

Damn, Crusader. You have a plan for everything, huh? Lucky you. Everyone should do that! Everyone should be fully prepared for whatever disaster heads their way!

My god... sorry, bro, but that's the most asinine explanation I've ever heard. Seriously? That's your solution. Ha.

Trotter| 2.10.09 @ 2:59PM

Elliot, you clueless dolt. If someone in my family was in need, I would help them out because they are family. If I didn't have the means to help sufficiently, I would go to my church to figure out appropriate assistance.

You, on the other hand, spew your sanctimonious bilge in smug outrage while using MY money to help someone in your family. The point that many have tried to make to you is that too many people such as yourself and dear Henrietta look to the government (me and you) first, and not family, friends and church.

So, how dare you take the faux moral high ground on my dime.

hope| 2.10.09 @ 3:00PM

it's not sloth if there are no jobs.

i too want my fellow americans taken care of and treated with compassion. not insults, guns and cynicism. seriously, people. get a grip!

drakebaker| 2.10.09 @ 3:01PM

Psssst....Byrd has many many times apologized for his past. Right or wrong, he is still seated. So, don't use him as an example. Uh, all of those cities you mention have one thing in common-are you suggesting that BECAUSE they are black, they are criminals? Or, can it be due to other factors? Racism??? hmmm......people like you...?? You are a racist, my dear. Do some research you uninformed idiot. Its NOT because of their COLOR that there is a high crime rate. Read a little and get back to us...

SAM| 2.10.09 @ 3:03PM

"Elliot| 2.10.09 @ 2:33PM
I'm sorry, are you guys struggling to pay the bills? Well, guess what, this stimulus plan is for you too! You'll get relief too. If you're not struggling and you are rich, but think our duty as a country is to sweep the sick, unemployed and homeless under the carpet then you really need to take a look in the mirror. I don't know what kind of idealist imagination you live in, but history has proved time and time again that selfish behavior such as that will just result is disaster. Time to face reality, folks. "

Sorry, Elliot, family, extended family, friends, church, local community. That's where this woman's needs can be met. We don't need to redistribute wealth through the DC clearinghouse to solve this woman's problems.

Equal opportunity, not equal results.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:03PM

Idiots, hey man can you fax me a copy of your COnstitution where it says the gubmint can collect taxes to help our fellow man? That line is missing from mine.

Elliot, I think it is unlucky that people like me are a dying breed. If you understand simple arithmetic you will see why. Consider:

In 1940 there were 42 workers paying into Social Security for every SS recipient. By 2040 there will be around 2. So, what do we do Elliot? Do we raise taxes on those 2 workers or what? Do we cut benefits? Raise the minimum retirement age? Pease tell me the answer?

My guess is by 2040 Roe v Wade will have morphed into where we just kill old people anyway, so maybe it won't matter. That should buy SS a few more years anyway.

Elliot have you ever heard that saying "give a man a fish and he eats for a day, but teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime?" Would you not agree that cutting welfare checks is more akin to giving fish? What life skills are we teaching folks so that they are better able to deal with life if we make them dependent of a gubmint check every month?

jello| 2.10.09 @ 3:05PM

Hello crusader?? Is there anybody in there?? Are you really this ignorant, or is this a joke?? I tell you what, take your savings that you have buy you and your lucky family plane tickets, and move to Iran. You will just LOVE it there, I promise!!!!! If you can't afford the tickets, I can help...

SAM| 2.10.09 @ 3:05PM

BTW: why does Obama need this dog and pony show? He has the Dem votes to enact this nonsense. Pass it, then own it.

Basil Plumley| 2.10.09 @ 3:07PM

Amen Trotter, amen

It is my hope that Elliot "gets it" before he breeds. I have enough folks to take care of.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:08PM

Sean, no, I never saidf I have a plan for everything. I specifically addressed Elliot's specific example, you effing idiotic g-d d@m moron liberal f@ggot. Sorry when dealing with straw-man nitpickers my turretts acts up.

Anyway Sean, no, if lightning struck my house and burned it down while a bus was at the same time in the process of running over my children while my wife was getting murdered by a minority welfare recipient AND my mom and dad's house blew up because of a gas leak AND my sister's family was abducted by aliens (house and all) AND my brother dropped dead of young age and his house was destroyed by a tornado, well, no, I am not prepared for that, so you got me.

But, if I lost my job tomorrow I could could meet my obligations for about 6 months, and in that time I am sure I could find some type of work to help me get back on my feet. I am sorry you can't, but again I reiterate it is not my responsibility to ensure you are prepared as well.

Shed | 2.10.09 @ 3:11PM

Eliot. Phone home. Ask for a brain. Crusader isn't implying what you are inferring. Charity comes from the heart. Government handouts come from tyranny, the forced appropriation of the fruits of one's labor. Big difference. And Sean, dude, take the earphone out of your I-Pod and make a plan. Don't just sit there and think Big Nanny State is gonna cover your sorry behind. Libs are good at three things: making excuses, blaming others for their lot in life, seeking solutions to their problems by confiscating from others. For the truly needy, we have had a safety net in place since FDR. The problem is more and more people think they should be covered by that net when what they really want is equally of outcome without equal effort to acquire the things they desire (as opposed to things they need). Is any of this sinking in? I gather not. That's OK. I have something you guys will never have. Self respect.

Basil Plumley| 2.10.09 @ 3:12PM

@SAM

Answer: Because there are still seats available on the Titanic?

Tagee| 2.10.09 @ 3:12PM

Crusader: You ARE a dying breed, and thank GOD for that. You are a white, racist bigot who feels superior to other races. Problem is, deep down, you know you are INFERIOR, and that is what really gets you mad. Anyway, take your fat belly and receded hairline, get off the couch and go tell a black man how you feel. Get it off your fat hairy chest. Then, let's see how superior you feel.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:13PM

(This is fun)

Jello, I am ignorant because...

- I can meet my obligations without the gubmint's help?
- I sock some cash away every payday in case of an emergency?
- I buy extra bottled water and non-perishable food because I live on the coast?
- I believe I am most responsible for my own well-being?
- I want to be left alone and leave yoou alone?

I mean I don't get it? I don't see how ignorant applies to any of there. Pay attention to the other libtard f@gs on here. My correct lib label would be "soulless cretin," "racist," or "Klansman." Not ignorant.

Anyway I apologize for my "racist" comments. Unlike Robert Byrd I never lynched a black guy or even burned a cross on anybody's lawn. All forgiven or what?

Savannahgirl| 2.10.09 @ 3:13PM

It's easy to see how the Republicans lost - this country has had it up to here with the ugly, selfish, hateful, Limbaugh/Coulter attitude of mock, deride, bash and ridicule in the meanest way possible anything that differs from their intolerant narrowminded POV. Have fun in the wilderness folks - that's where you'll be for the forseeable future. The world is a changin' and you ain't.

to crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:15PM

NO, you are ignorant because you are a racist. Its 2009, put your KKK robes away.

crusader is an idiot| 2.10.09 @ 3:15PM

I think coulter and limbaugh are CRUSADING here....

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:16PM

Tagee, hey I don't like homos either so are you going to call me a closet homo now? Haha! Again typical libtard response. It is funny how vile you all get when someone on the right uses your own tactics against you, even slightly.

Anyway when the whiteys all die away who is going to pay the welfare?

Shed | 2.10.09 @ 3:17PM

So, being self-reliant makes you racist? That is an astounding leap of logic. Would you please do my taxes? Imagine the write-offs!!

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:18PM

Hey now I aplogized fair and square just like Robert "Grand Wiz KKK" Byrd. How come you all forgive him and not me????? How come equality of outcome doesn't apply to me?

hey crusader...| 2.10.09 @ 3:18PM

You don't like homos either, huh crusader? why?

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:19PM

Shed, being White makes you racist. Come on!

crusader....| 2.10.09 @ 3:20PM

When the whiteys all die? Yikes, crusader, you are seriously whacked out. You are a racist pig and a homophobe. Do you know what year it is? how old are you? You are in your 50's, probably blue collar, fat, had a bad relationship with your alcoholic father and get no sex from your wife. How am I doing?

crusader hater| 2.10.09 @ 3:21PM

You are not forgiven because you are an idiot. Fat and stupid. Byrd is skinny and smart. Get it?

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:23PM

Holy Cow, Crusader, keep em flying! There are a lot of worthless slacker dingbats still living in mom's basement! Must be now that Starbucks is closing shops, they have no where to go to work, AND, since practically all of them studied things like ethnomusicology, or dhimmwitted poetry, or Goreball Worming Theory, they have no real trade skills, other than pouring coffee and bitching about how they expect a handout for squat.

Frederick| 2.10.09 @ 3:26PM

Obama just makes me want to quit my job and get stuff for free! Yeah, baby! Free stuff...woohoo!

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:26PM

Hey hey crusader. It was a joke. A pun attacking the typical libtard reponse of "if you are against X it is because you are a closet X." Or int his case because I am self reliant I feel a deep-rooted inferiority to the black man.

To crusader...actually you are a big 0-fer. Maybe get some roids from A-Rod to u p yer battin' average.

Year: 2009
Age: 39
Income: CLASSIFIED
Fat: No, job won't allow it.
Bald: No, but I do have to keep my hair short
Dad: Not an alcoholic, and we actually get along swimmingly.
Sex life: Purty darn good.

In other words I am a typical rugged, individualistic American, not a libtard, metrosexual, whiney, pansy, emasculated, semi-f@ggot like most lib "men."

How'm I doin'???

Pat Quinn| 2.10.09 @ 3:28PM

WWJD?

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:29PM

Thanks JDubya! But most props must go to the fish in the barrell, oops I mean libtards who frequent this board. Without them I am nothing. Haha!

crusader...| 2.10.09 @ 3:29PM

Hey hey crusader. It was a joke. A pun attacking the typical libtard reponse of "if you are against X it is because you are a closet X." Or int his case because I am self reliant I feel a deep-rooted inferiority to the black man.

To crusader...actually you are a big 0-fer. Maybe get some roids from A-Rod to u p yer battin' average.

Year: 2009
Age: 39
Income: CLASSIFIED
Fat: No, job won't allow it.
Bald: No, but I do have to keep my hair short
Dad: Not an alcoholic, and we actually get along swimmingly.
Sex life: Purty darn good.

In other words I am a typical rugged, individualistic American, not a libtard, metrosexual, whiney, pansy, emasculated, semi-f@ggot like most lib "men."

How'm I doin'???

How are you doin'??? YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!

repubs=idots| 2.10.09 @ 3:30PM

Aww...you poor little Dubya lovers. You must HATE your lives now, eh?

Shed | 2.10.09 @ 3:32PM

Crusader, I think you're doing good. The country ... not so much after reading a lot of the Lib vitriol out there. No reason. No logic or common sense to their arguments. No reasoned, rational responses. Just name calling and race baiting. You can't win an argument when you are the only real person in the room and the opponents are shrieking bags of emotional waste.

Lisa| 2.10.09 @ 3:34PM

Elliot, Sorry but we aren't a dying breed! In fact, I am raising 3 young conservatives who in turn will give me at least 10 little conservative grandchildren. We conservatives work hard and give much of our time and our money. It is the business owners and "evil rich" who are the first to dip into their pockets for charities. How many hospital wings, university departments and arts centers are funded by those who wish to sit on their butts all day? Ask Joe Biden how much he gives to charity each year!! It is the government's job to keep me safe, it is my job to keep me healthy, happy and prosperous! Read your Constitution and get back to me when you are enlightened!

crusadersanidiot| 2.10.09 @ 3:34PM

Sorry Ruth I am just a soul-less cretin who thinks I should get to keep the money I make so I can spend it on, I dunno, food and clothes for my kids instead of 40s and Black 'n Milds for DeKwan.

Above is a sentence from crusader. Read between the lines. This is a guy who is clearly ignorant. Hey, move the heck out of this country...you are no longer needed. Take your white robes and cap with you...don't need that here either.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:36PM

I do not hate my life. And I did not like everything GW did.
But, I can say that in about three years, after you find out that your quiche and colonic fest of a DemocRAT party has sold out this country, you will remembering the "better" years, when you had food stamps, sat on your fat ass watching Oprah, and pretty much relying on others to take care of you.
Instead, you will be one of the workers on the potato prolatariat, wondering if the end of the line is serving toilet paper, toothbrushes, or perhaps a tin of tuna.

I hope you are happy you voted a socialist into office.

Hey lisa?| 2.10.09 @ 3:38PM

Uh, Lisa??? Conservatives are definitely a dying breed. Just like their cousins, the KKK members of yesteryear and white trash of today. So, if you insist on rasing your offspring as conservatives, remember that they will probably defy you in the coming years and you will find yourself at odds with them. Or, maybe they will remain and drink their mountaindew eat their mac and cheese and let you visit them at the trailer park. Either way, you are doing them an injustice. Now, turn Rush off and join humanity. Your kids will thank you.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:38PM

Shed, thanks. I try! Its not always easy but life wouldn't be fun if it were.

Lisa, you go girl! I have 2 (for now) and I am teaching them to (gasp!) think critically and question and debate and they love it. Once a month we also go camping or fishing or hiking and do a little "outside the classroom" learning.

That is when I am not feeling inferior to the black man. Haha!

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:39PM

Lisa,
Good for you! Mazeltov! I have two out here.

The great thing for us? Eventually, all of these moonbats will die off. They will enforce abortions on themselves, or have decided to not have kids (thank God), or a gay...so no reproduction. Then, we will take back our country and end this generational nightmare started in the 60's by a bunch of do nothing pot smoking first generational slackers.

"The problem with socialisms is that eventually you will run out of other people's money"

hey Jdubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:39PM

Your GED didn't afford you the proper education...don't post if they are going to be replete with grammatical errors. Ugh. You are an idiot.

Sue| 2.10.09 @ 3:41PM

Elliot: My 'idealist imagination" I live in is CAPITALISM. What's yours...SOCIALISM?
Now go back and read up on your history on how socialism has been tried and FAILED.

I am not unemployed, and I CHOOSE to help the needy.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:41PM

Don't dare to disagree, do not dissent with the Obamassiah because then the liberal, mind-numbed libtards will bust out their: You are a bigot, racist, homophobe, soulless, gun toting, war lover hater. How dare you object when they try to pick your pocket. Actually, =idots, (nice spelling, must be that publik skool education), I love my life. I just pity whiny, weak libtards like you.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:42PM

To crusadersanidiot. Yeah, that was a pretty good line. But then again I had a lot of good ones in this thread, so you had a lot to choose from.

Anyway why should I move? I kinda like it here.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:43PM

I find it hilariously amazing how little these dingbats know about anything historically significant.
FACT 1: The DEMOCRATS were the south. The south were slave owning Confederate Seperatists. ERGO: DEMOCRATS = Slave Owners

Well, that pretty much sums it up. If you enjoy being a submissive dhimmi to the Democrat Party and provide a vote, you will get your 5lb block of cheese and gas ration book.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:44PM

This isn't about race. It's about winners vs. losers. Libtards are losers.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:45PM

TO: hey JDubya

Acutally, I have a degree in Physics, douche bag.

I am sure I can spin circles around your clueless melon head, if provoked.

Zuzu| 2.10.09 @ 3:45PM

I hope this comment thread gets linked far and wide, for the unbelievably racist comments this site allows.

dana| 2.10.09 @ 3:46PM

I am a conservative. I live my liife the right way and want that. i do miss bush i think he did a fantatic job and was honest and smart. my kids go to shcool and i am happy to say that their isnt blacks their. I hope theirs not as many liberels as I see here as in the country. our country was made from a foundition based on whites too bad some of you liberels dont see it this way. smartin up,

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:46PM

Funniest thing about liberals; they are the most judgmental people of all, and they have no sense of humor.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:47PM

Zuzu what's racist, the comments or YOUR LIBTARD interpretation of them? Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:47PM

I agree with Crusader.

You know the old phrase: "Beggers can't be choosers".

So, to all of you who want us to leave, get a clue. How much monopoly money can the government print before a loaf of bread is around Weimar or Zimbabwe prices?

We pay the taxes so you can sit on your lazy butts. Shut up and get me a drink beyotch!

hey dubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:47PM

Are you sure your degree is not in FYSICS?

anesthesiadoc| 2.10.09 @ 3:47PM

As a person making a lot of money and paying a lot in taxes, as a person who never received welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, as a person who has never qualified for educational grant money and as a person who has never known poverty: I am willing to pay more in taxes and have less to spend on a new car and house if Henrietta Hughes across this nation do not have to suffer the humiliation of sharing their poverty with an entire nation. GOP philosophy being espoused here is not knew to me but it never ceases to disgust me. And I hope your indifference and lunacy continue because you people are why the GOP lost in 2006 and 2008 and will ensure a generation in the wilderness for your party and "principles".

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:49PM

Dana is a liberal troll; you can tell by the atrocious grammar and spelling. Publik skool education. It's that liberal 'tolerance' on display once again.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 3:50PM

Oh, hey Jdubya, nice to see that you hide behind some retarded rhetoric.
At least I have a degree. I earned it the hard way by studying and working several different jobs.
As for you, coffee pourer?

hey jdubya!| 2.10.09 @ 3:51PM

Oprah, and pretty much relying on others to take care of you.
Instead, you will be one of the workers on the potato prolatariat, wondering if the end of the line is serving toilet paper, toothbrushes, or perhaps a tin of tuna.

I hope you are happy you voted a socialist into office.

The above was ostensibly written by a person with a degree in Physics! Notice the errors, and the logic disconnect (end of the line, not front..). Ahem. No, dont think so! What an arse he is!!!! I am sure he is on his lunchbreak..get back to the register, you fool.

imp| 2.10.09 @ 3:51PM

Crusader, so far you have been called:

Soul-less
Judgemental
Bigot
Dying breed
Minority
Ignorant
White Racisist Bigot
Inferior
Fat Belly - Receeded Hairline-Hairey
Ugly
Selfish
Hateful
Intolerant
Narrow Minded

Does that about cover it all from all of the Liberals here...ya know the ones from the Party of Tolerance and Inclusiveness?

All because you are fully prepared to take responsibily to work to take care of you and yours? Amazing.

Tell ya what, Crusader, you keep on being responsible for you and yours, and I will do the same.

NO WE ARE NOT a dying breed!

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:52PM

Zuzu is a proud, card carrying member of Obama's Thought Police brigade. Watch what you say, libtards are watching, and they'll send you to a re-education camp.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:53PM

A-Doc (sorry "anesthesia" is too long to spell out),

It's great that you worked hard and now make a lot of money. It's also great that you want to help your fellow man. What about this? What about instead of the gubmint confiscating your hard-earned money before you even get to see it, YOU are actually in charge of 1 - how much you donate to charity and 2 - to whom you donate. I mean what a concept! You having final say over YOUR OWN money! Who'd-a thunk it?

I think that is the "conservative" position. I make it, I will spend/save/donate/wipe my butt with it the way I want to. Is that so unfair? Does that make me a racist?

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 3:56PM

Imp, yeah for the party of tolerance and inclusiveness and hey, let's throw in "bipartisanship" they sure have a funny way of showing it.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 3:56PM

ADoc, you are a tool. Henrietta was a set-up by the Obama camp. I wouldn't want you to be my doctor, did you graduate last in your med school class?

Teleprompter Messiah| 2.10.09 @ 3:59PM

Anasthesiadoc:

When can we expect you to cut checks to the IRS so the Henrietta's of the world don't have to live in poverty? There is nothing illegal about doing it right now. How about turning over 90% of your handsome salary to show your great altruism?

Smug moralizing without action is bombast.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:00PM

Crusader, you are not a racist, they are. Liberals always demonize those who disagree with them in order to silence debate. They don't have an argument so they use bully tactics. Predictable and tedious.

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 4:00PM

A-Doc, man I was just thinking that if you were taxed less you could maybe adopt as many "Henrietta Hugheses" as your paycheck would allow. You could house, clothe, feed, educate, whatever all these Henrietta Hugheses!

Man this will WORK! Maybe we could frame the tax cut debate this way?

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 4:02PM

Oh but A-Doc? Yeah man don't do anything I wouldn't do with those Henrietta Hugheses you adopt, know what I'm sayin'?
*wink wink*

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 4:07PM

man, I just went to Malkin's site and say a pic of Henrietta Hughes. For a chick who's living in her car she sure looks to be doing alright.

Question: How can poor people be fat?

Discuss---

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:10PM

Man, we are in trouble. Those trolls were weak. Poor sentence structure and no critical thought. This country has been dumbed down.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:11PM

That's another one against you, Crusader. You are a fatist, too.

Jan| 2.10.09 @ 4:14PM

SORRY GUYS BUT PEOPLE LIKE ELLIOT SHOULD BE DELETED,,,, CLICK!!
I FEEL BETTER ALREADY

jan| 2.10.09 @ 4:18PM

people like Elliot are not interested in fishing, they just want to eat the fish someone else caught

Lisa| 2.10.09 @ 4:20PM

To "Hey Lisa",
To set you straight on my family tree. My cousins are not the "KKK" nor the "White Trash". Four of them routinely head to Haiti with the "Doctors without Borders" program, one is serving in Afghanistan, one is a presbyterian minister, one sang the National Anthem at a Kansas City Royals baseball game, two are farmers, and 5 are small business owners.

What is the injustice in teaching my children to work hard and to rely on no one but themselves for their happiness? They help me deliver Meals on Wheels twice a week, adopt families through St. Vincent dePaul for Christmas and routinely give up their Saturdays to help others. They are not perfect, as yes, they do love Mac n' Cheese but they will never look to their neighbor with greed and envy in their eyes. They will never sit on their behinds watching "Judge Whoever" when there is a "Help Wanted" sign in someone's window. They will never say, "But what about me?" They will NEVER jump in the wagon! They were raised PULLERS by PULLERS and you Riders should either jump out of the wagon or shut up!

teleman| 2.10.09 @ 4:20PM

LOL. I love reading these message boards! It's like watching an argument between a dad and a 3-year-old. When the 3-year-old can't figure out what to say, they just start screaming "NO FAIR!"

Stock up. Dig in.

Gary| 2.10.09 @ 4:21PM

@JDubya - The parties have switched meanings so many times I'm not sure the south being Democrats during the Civil War means anything... weren't they fighting for states rights? I'd say... "wish they won" but then I'd be branded a racist.

@Crusader - I think you should move. We should all move. Let the dolts try to figure out where the money went and when they all die off we can come back and reclaim the country.

@Lisa - We may not be a dying breed, but we are becoming outnumbered. Something to do with only having children we can afford to feed while some other people we all know who actually see children as a source of income.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 4:26PM

Hello hey jdubya!

Thanks for the grammar lesson! It is nice to know that there are plenty of poets and literature majors around when you could care less.

Nope, I came here on lunch break. I own my business.

Still, it is nice to see that your attacks are weak, like your party's philosophy.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:26PM

It's still good sport to torture these morons. I'd rather laugh than cry.

Sam Adams| 2.10.09 @ 4:27PM

Personal attacks mean you you've lost the debate.

Crusader sounds like a soldier, cop or maybe a fireman.

Crusader posts what many think but will not post as they know they will get personally attacked and the debate nullified hence refuse to bother.

Most other who think like this have jobs and little or no time to visit and post here.

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:29PM

The libtards had to go; their McDonald's lunchbreaks were over.

JDubya| 2.10.09 @ 4:32PM

Hi Gary,

The South wanted to secede from the Union to preserve slavery as an industry. The fact that the North was heavy in industry, the introduction of significant textile mills and, of course, the cotton gin threatened the way of life in the South.

When I mean slave owners today, I am not referring to indentured servitude, but using one's vote in return for a meager existence, I feel is just as bad.

I am a Yank by bloodline.

[Man, I am off for about 15 minutes to take care of a business issue (potential welfare generating stipends from taxpaying capitalist) and there are like 100 new items]

ruth| 2.10.09 @ 4:32PM

There really was no debate, the liberals were just outraged that we objected to having our pockets picked. How dare we?

Lisa| 2.10.09 @ 4:33PM

Gary,
Yes, we are becoming outnumbered. More and more are seeing that riding in the cart requires far less from the individual than pulling it does. Ayn Rand was right, the Secondhanders will destroy the world. Us Producers do need to do more than listen to the radio! I, at least, am prepared. For my Christmas gift, my dad took me to a Concealed Carry class. Now I am a mom who doesn't just pack her kids' lunches!

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…a question? But let’s not get alarmed the left’s power grabs. The American people will never let America get as bad as Zimbabwe. Just look at some of the questions asked to the President in a townhall meeting in Florida: …Henrietta Hughes… said she was unemployed and homeless, and living with her family in a very small vehicle. “The Housing Authority has two years waiting list. We need…

Gary| 2.10.09 @ 4:38PM

@JDubya

My understanding on the whole Civil War thing is that it is vastly more complicated than any modern history course teaches us. I do know the slavery angle was a part, along with trade issues between the north and south. Bottom line for me is that the federal government tried to impose itself way too much into state affairs. All been down hill from there.

But then again, I'm from the south :-)

Regardless, I don't want to hijack this thread... but it is nice to know we can disagree without resorting to calling each other names.

If only others would learn that lesson.

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Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 4:39PM

As most can see, the only people posting on here are card carrying KKK members. It is not for a loss of words or cause that keeps one from posting here, but when the land is full of rubbish, the smart people move on. This site is full of old fashioned, old time thinking racist trash! I

Gary| 2.10.09 @ 4:42PM

@Lisa

Excellent! My wife (oddly named Lisa as well) and I are signing up for a few gun courses as well. Can't do the concealed carry since we happen to live in one of those north east states that believes in selected inclusion of the Constitution... and the "shall not be infringed" thing is not part of that inclusion.

crusader| 2.10.09 @ 4:49PM

For you knuckledragging dolts: For the last 8 years, your hero managed to run our country into the ground (when he wasn't f----- up the enlish language or handing contracts out to his cronies). How sick that you are ok with that. Obama rules..put that in your KKK hat and smoke it! YEEHA!!!!! (for you guys in the trailer...well, I guess that would be all of you....well, really one of you pretending to be all of you!!) Oh, for you that wrote "oddly named lisa"-you do realize that there is more than ONE Lisa in the country, right?

EagleEye | 2.10.09 @ 4:55PM

Dammit! I missed all of the cool commenting.

As to the KKK comment, take a look and see. It was started by DEMOCRATS to intimidate the abolitionists. The governor of AL during the civil rights was a DEMOCRAT. It was REPUBLICANS who got the Civil Rights Act passed. Who is the concerned party now?

Why is it that because we preach self-reliance and not hand outs we are criminalized. I am no where near financially stable, though I make a decent wage. If I lost my job, I'd have maybe a month to get more work before I would be pawning my stuff.

So? It's my life.

What the Democrat party has been so successful at doing has been to put everyone in a group and then victimize them; show them how those evil, hateful REPUBLICANS are to blame for all of their woes.

If I recall, each time there has been massive federal growth, which in turn strains the country, which in turn kills the economy, it has been initiated by them evil, sneaky, hateful DEMOCRATS.

I'm just sayin'.

The revolution is at hand. Will you be a leader or a follower?

highwall| 2.10.09 @ 4:57PM

Has anyone noticed that the State Representative (Nick Thompson/ wife Chene) who offered their home to Ms. Hughes is REPUBLICAN?
Obama and the Dems love to offer taxpayer money, NOT their own. Remember Obama's sorry record of personal contributions http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/03/obama-releases.html

highwall

Crusader| 2.10.09 @ 5:03PM

Ruth, I guess when they get tired of calling names, they post under my name too. Oh well.

uhhuh| 2.10.09 @ 5:08PM

Ok. Lets see now. The last 8 years...war. Money spent-well over what the stimulus plan amounts to. Four thousand americans dead. constitution: Bush discovered he found it more interesting to tap phones and other interesting stuff. Deficit: Why not? Heck, lets rape the economy..don't worry, the Bush apologists will continue the support because they are unable to think for themselves and form their own opinions.

REPUBLITARD| 2.10.09 @ 5:10PM

Write what you want..guess what? A liberal is in the white house!!!! Conservatism is on life support and the soon the plug will be pulled!!!!! LOVE IT!!! OBAMA OBAMA!!!!!!!! YES WE CAN!!! YES WE CAN...and WE DID!!! BYE BYE Republitards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bobbi| 2.10.09 @ 5:18PM

Our nation is on life support if you haven't noticed. And according to the Obama supporters in Fort Myers today, "No we can't!" They want gubmint to come in and be their daddy. All they want is a handout. Makes me ill.

Real American| 2.10.09 @ 5:25PM

Obama: "Don't worry, little lady. We're going to spend $1 trillion so you and your family can live in the new soon to be crime-ridden projects. $999 Billion of it will be wasted, but don't worry. We'll stick Whitey and his kids with the bill."

Teleprompter Messiah| 2.10.09 @ 5:27PM

Yes We Canners:

You won. Its all yours. Why do you even care about what people on this site write? You're the smart ones with all the answers. You're the broad-minded big thinkers. Why come here?

The "last eight years" is in the past. Bush is back in Texas. Your tin Messiah holds all of the cards. Nothing can legally stop you. Therefore, Move On broad-minded geniuses.

Why are you here other than to pick a fight? Because deep down it bothers you that someone, somewhere, who does not think just like you is happy. Your false God bleeds.

Mary Jane| 2.10.09 @ 5:33PM

Mr. Obama my husband never asks for a second cup of coffee at home. Please help.

Gary| 2.10.09 @ 5:53PM

@crusader

You had me fooled there! Your crafty way of changing "C" to "c" almost had me thinking Crusader accidentally drank the kool-aid. Well, I must say I am greatly relieved that this is not the case.

However, something else does bother me, Mr crusader (who is apparently not Crusader). You see, I mistakenly believed that anyone willing to read commentary on socio-political issues would have sufficient scholastic aptitude to grasp basic language constructs.

I was mistaken.

In the future, I will be sure to include commonly accepted means of indicating humor where they are clearly not needed. However, I am not quite up to par on modern parlance, so would you kindly inform me which of the following is correct?

a) My wife (oddly named Lisa as well :-) ) and I...
b) My wife (oddly named Lisa as well) and I...
c)My wife (oddly named Lisa as well*) and I...
d)My wife ( oddly named Lisa as well) and I

Please accept my apology for causing you any confusion crusader and thanks in advance for the help.

* footnote: this is pointed out because the original poster (OP) has rather conservative view points that the second poster (SP) shares. In this case, the OP has the same name as the SP's wife, which draws lines of coincidental parallel since the OP and the SP's wife share a name and are both about to take classes pertaining to hand guns. This odds of two people (OP and SP) posting to a random web blog with these types of minor parallels is rather small thus the fact the SP pointed this out to the OP is merely a point of interest and some humor.

Gary| 2.10.09 @ 5:55PM

Well phooey... the angle brackets in my previous post were eaten by the HTML parser. That should have read...

a) My wife (oddly named Lisa as well :-) ) and I...
b) My wife ([sarc]oddly[/sarc] named Lisa as well) and I...
c)My wife (oddly named Lisa as well*) and I...
d)My wife ( [WARNING: coincidence ahead!] oddly named Lisa as well) and I...

Oh well...

EagleEye | 2.10.09 @ 6:11PM

@uhhuh - I totally agree with that except for the 4000 dead Americans part. It is actually 7000 if you count the towers; though you cannot win that argument because using the victims of 9/11 would not further your cause.

As to the spending, I will argue WITH you. We spent way too much money. Why? Because no one else in the world wanted to help. No one else in the world had the cajones to stand against terror.

They stay in the background and point the finger at us when they are bombed and killed as if it was our fault.

If you think that were we to withdraw our effort we would not be attacked again, you have no clue about the Middle East and it's psycho radical factions.

If the world had half the b@lls as our troops the effort would have been over ages ago. As it is, we got stuck with the bill.

But what is going on now is 10 times worse. They are giving tax cuts AND spending untold trillions. It is the very same thing the Democrats have been crying about, yet they jump in over their heads at the first chance.

It cannot work. It never has. Obama even mentioned Japan of the 1990's without even having a clue as to what really happened there.

But it doesn't matter. You are correct; you won, we lost. Unfortunately, by the time America realizes what that means, it will be too late.

The revolution is at hand. Will you be a leader or a follower?

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eagleidiot| 2.10.09 @ 6:51PM

eagleye: War of terror is a freakish manipulation by the Bush adminstration. WAR???? Uh, I thought 9/11 had nothing to do with the war? oh wait..then it did. Oh wait..then it didnt. Of course nobody would help. You numbskull!!!!! Your whole argument is ridiculous

Bert| 2.10.09 @ 6:53PM

We should all be grateful that Obama didn't point out that Fannie Mae just lowered its credit standards again

republitards here| 2.10.09 @ 7:14PM

Yes we can: Overcome the outrageous racism that historically indicated we would never have a black President.
Yes we can: Put the replitards that ruined our country back in the rathole from which they came.
Yes we can: Overturn Dubya's old fascist ideology and use stem cell research to help those ailing and those that that may in the future
Yes we can: Bring our men and women back from this unholy war on terror --the one even that fascist Cheney said would never work.
Yes we can: Get rid of the dumbed down replitard ideology and see some hope for the future of this country.
That's right. Balk all you want..but, we WON!!!!!!!!

Roy| 2.10.09 @ 7:26PM

As for the previous poster - yeah. Sure. Whatever. Roflmao.

As for most of the prior posters, much of that argument is a moot point. The government already has more than enough welfare programs to ensure this woman won't starve or freeze. I once looked into it and in Milwaukee and able bodied single man with no dependents would get about $200 a month in no questions asked cash. I don't know about housing programs but I know they are perfectly adequate too. She can get free health care in emergency rooms even if she doesn't bother to fill out the paperwork for Medicaid. Etc.

What it's about is constantly ratcheting up the minimum standard to which people imagine themselves to be entitled, even if they do nothing to earn it and it is paid for with other people's forcibly taken money.

sylviabrown| 2.10.09 @ 10:28PM

It is somewhat ironic that Henrietta Hughes is homeless because of policies enacted by Obama.

Because congress passed an act that required banks to make housing loans to people who could not afford to repay the mortgage. On a interview posted on youtube, she said she had a $1000 mortgage. Can you imagine her bills with insurance, gas, electric, etc.? She was saddled with a big house she could not possibly afford because of Obama and his congress.

He is directly responsible for her situation but now he is her savior?

That is sicko.

Gene| 2.10.09 @ 11:06PM

WOw bama boy sure stired up a stink, giving the well fed lady a smooch and telling her to see his staff, and i would bet ophra will take her under her wing also,, what a setup..

The Patriot| 2.10.09 @ 11:16PM

When did the American motto become "Support your fellow American" instead of "Support yourself so that your fellow American doesn't have to support you."

The American Dream of being or doing or succeeding as much as you want is dying because people are being punished for success and rewarded for failure.

Frosty| 2.10.09 @ 11:38PM

When did America turn into a bunch of fat hogs slurping at the welfare trough? Liberalism is for losers; those who want to take from others what they have not earned. Socialism/Marxism--it's all the same.

Lucinda Sattler| 2.10.09 @ 11:41PM

I live in Fort Myers. This lady is not a set up. She is living in her car. You people are heartless. Give it a while...it may be you. What will you think when it's you?

JP| 2.10.09 @ 11:58PM

"Have fun in the wilderness folks - that's where you'll be for the forseeable future. The world is a changin' and you ain't."

And what exactly has changed? Feb 2009 is much like Feb 1977. The self-righteousness of the Left hasn't changed a bit. See you at the polls.

JP| 2.11.09 @ 12:04AM

Ominous portent of things to come. The new tax avoiding Treasury Secretary spoke about the same time as Obama did in Florids. The results: the Dow took a 370 point dive. Gold is selling like crazy as investors look for safe havens.

Self righteousness will not assist this nation; niether will spending $1.7 trillion of taxpayers money. Obama claims this spending will create 3 million new jobs. That's $450,000 per job. Giving employers a $20,000 tax cut per new employee hired would only cost this nation $60 billion.

What Would Jesus Do?| 2.11.09 @ 1:01AM

I see this site is full of 'generate money off of christ' paraphernalia, so critics, what would your Jesus do?

...and by Jesus I'm not talking about the person who manages your portfolio or that guy that gives you some blow on the weekend.

I guess you probably love Michael Steele's method of dealing with the homeless, since he would have hired dark skin homeless people like Mrs. Hughes to work for the RNC, so she could improve her situation, but then he won't pay her a dime. That's your American way right?

LMAO @ you RNC supporting jokers.

kingcobra1| 2.11.09 @ 9:10AM

to the conservative crusader, the real one. give 'em hell son!!!!!

Crusader| 2.11.09 @ 9:14AM

WWJD, Christians have a PERSONAL responsibility to provide for the poor, the weak, the sick, etc.

Lucinda, why do you say "give it awhile, it may be you?" I thought obambi was gonna provide loaves and fishes to all?

Crusader| 2.11.09 @ 9:17AM

Frosty, when? Oh, about 1932 or so. You know, when our "greatest generation" turned to big gubmint FDR to solve all their problems.

Crusader| 2.11.09 @ 9:34AM

Republitards here,

I'm gonna throttle back a notch and just see if you can engage in reasoned dabate.

First, I think it is a mistake to lump "conservatives" in with "republicans." I am certainly no republican and have not voted D or R in a long time. I vote my conscience, which usually leads me to vote for the Constitution Party on a federal level and obstain from voting in local and state elections.

Anyway, I wanted to address the issues you bring up and see what happens. Maybe you'll surprise me?

Racism - Really not buying this anymore. This is 2009. There is a mulatto president. Can we PLEASE stop assuming all whiteys are racist? He would not have gotten elected without the support of white voters. Just because some of us disagree with him on issues does not mean we are racist. At some point we need to get past calling names and tackle the hard issues that face EVERY American, black/white, man/woman, lib/conservative. We'll be waiting.

Stem cells - Bush's policy was that he would not allocate gubmint money to support stem cell research. If you or any other private citizen or company wants to fork over your own money to fund it or find a magic cure for paralysis then you are more than welcome to give it a shot. Think about that. It is not illegal for anyone to engage in "stem cell research," but the gubmint ain't paying for it. What's wrong with that? Ever wonder why if stem cells were the cure-all for everything we don't have companies investing money into them? How much jack could you make if you invented the cure for cancer, AIDS, paralysis, etc?

The GWOT - If you on the left would stop screaming for a while and listen you may find that you have more in common with folks on the right about this issue than you imagine.

Lastly, you have to be more specific as to which "dumbed down replitard ideology" you want to get rid of so we can have a common ground to debate. As far as hope for the future of this country, what does that mean? Where do you put your hope? I put my hope in hard work, self-reliance, moderation, education, and individuality. Does that make me a racist/facist/whatever else I was called on this thread? Folks on the left appear to put their hope in gubmint. I tend to believe if you put your hope in someone else for your success you are more often than not going to be let down. Invest in YOURSELF. Make YOUR world better before you move on to trying to make everyone else's world more equal.

As far as the "we won" comment, Obama did win the presidential election, but does his "win" trump all the republican congressmen and senators who also "won?" Is his win more equal? :) They won too, but since he won a bigger election does that mean they just have to go along with him? If so, how come it didn't work that way for Bush? :)

Frosty| 2.11.09 @ 11:46AM

Lucinda, with your attitude, it's more than likely it's gonna be you residing in your car soon.

Coverscape| 2.11.09 @ 1:32PM

Speaking of "Obama to the Rescue".....I have some questions.....When did Mr. Obama learn about the devastating tornadoes that hit Oklahoma last night? Where was Mr. Obama and what was Mr. Obama doing while people were being devastated by these storms last night? Did Mr. Obama communicate with FEMA at any time before, during or after these devastating storms? Has Mr. Obama made plans to tour the devastated areas affected by these killer storms? If Mr. Obama wasn't "on the job" regarding these devastating storms, I dare say that he should be held to account for the terrible toll they inflicted! (just like Mr. Bush was in New Orleans)!

Steve | 2.11.09 @ 3:02PM

Reading the comments above, I'm fascinated by the large proportion of commenters who have no regard for the plight of the homeless woman and feel no need whatever to help her out. One of the comments said it wasn't the government's job to put a roof over her head. Yet at the same time, America is supposed to be a country of faith and Christianity. Christ said "I am my brother's keeper". Christ said, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Clearly many here may go to church every Sunday, but they take their ear plugs. But what do I know? I'm an atheist.....but I think it IS the job of any decent government to look after EVERONE on behalf of all of us who should feel the same way.

ruth| 2.11.09 @ 8:27PM

Steve, you don't understand; most church goers don't leave their faith at the altar. We volunteer our time and effort and donate large sums of money to help the poor. We actually step up and help people ourselves, we don't just stand by and expect government to do it for us. The snarky comments are because many on this blog think the Henrietta deal was an Obama setup. We're not that naive.

Crusader| 2.11.09 @ 10:17PM

Steve, its funny how you can quote Christ but you don't understand the quotes. Jesus didn't say, "Giveth thy money to the gubmint so they can buyeth houses for all the pooreth." Christians have a PERSONAL responsibility to the poor, the weak, the homeless, the sick. Personal meaning not having the gubmint forcibly confiscate our earnings to buy Henrietta a house, or supplement Julio's unemployment check.

I'm fascinated by the large number of Americans who think the gubmint should bail them out of every bad decision they make. Fascinating I tell you!

Whatever you THINK is the job of gubmint I suggest you read the US Constitution so you can KNOW what the job of gubmint is.

Ruth, stepping up and helping ourselves is so "old school." Next time Obamalamadingdong is in my state I think I will swing by and ask him if I can have a hundred thou. Just because. I mean in the grand scheme of things a hundred thou really is pocket change. We're spending just as much on doorbells in Mississippi for pete's sake!

TheVirginian| 2.12.09 @ 10:38AM

Crusader, you are speaking it right. That's all anyone with a brain can ask. Ruth, you are a close 2nd. Steve, it's like this, how do you determine WHO is actually in NEED of assistance, and who is milking the system without the true need. How many of us have seen the struggling out there panhandling, under some premise that they have a condition, or were dealt a "bad deal" in life, only to find they aren't really in need afterall. They leave that corner from panhandling and go get in a nice car and drive to their nice home, with a WAD of cash from SUCKERS (that's what we were to give them money).

As Crusader pointed out, Churches and people of faith (whatever theirs may be) have a moral obligation to help others "i was hungry you gave me food, thirsty-drink....." you get it. I think the Gov't SHOULD (and does) have programs to help those who TRULY need it, but not to take OUR money, to provide a living for the ones who truly COULD, but refuse to make their own way.

The bottom line here, is self responsibility. Taking action to make your OWN way in life. Sure, downtimes come, and maybe there is no friends or family to help one out. Seek help from local churches and organizations, that is what they are there for.

Now..... the racist aspect of all this.. L O L!!! XD it is amazing to me, how people jump to the RACIST!!!! card, and stoop to calling names, and accusations of such. As Crusader said, having a different perspective of life, gov't, politics, WHATEVER, doesn't make me a racist. The only TRUE racists in this forum, are the ones CALLING people racists....... it is YOUR hatred being displayed here not ours. Sit back and reflect on your own self and views of your "opposition". And also as he said, stop blaming all whites for being racist. Get over it already. I didn't do a thing to you, and dont owe any one anything either. I wont be the scapegoat of the past for you. Again, self responsibility...... stop blaming others and take responsibility in your OWN future, and make it happen.

I lost EVERYTHING i owned....... except for the car i came home to it in....... I lived in that car, and slept on the rocks outside at the river for over 2 months, working day labor jobs.... that's right MAKING MY OWN WAY back on my feet. Oh, my mistake, my dog was with me, so i had a car and a dog. She ate before me EVERY day.... this i made sure of. Why? because it wasn't the Gov'ts responsibility to feed the pet I HAD ADOPTED before this situation befell me either..... she was still MY responsibility.

Having said all that, i now own my own home, have a wife, and 8 dogs, 3 vehicles, my own business, and dont want for anything but what i NEED.....

And so you know, i already LIVE in the wilderness XD So, when all the rest of you WAKE up and realize what you are losing right in front of your faces, and you seek refuge in the wilderness, dont worry, we forgive your remarks and will help you find shelter ;)

TheVirginian| 2.12.09 @ 11:22AM

@Gary & JDubya

JDubya is PARTIALLY right, because some of the lower southern states relied on their slaves for production. It is extremely faulty thought however, to believe that we fought over using slaves for industry only.
My family certainly didn't have any slaves (and i believe the politically correct term is indentured servant). As a matter of fact, Robert E Lee abhorred slavery. He fought for Virginia's rights to secede from an overbearing hand, much like the one ALL AMERICANS fought to secede from under British rule.....

This is the fundamental reason we cannot move past race barriers in this nation. To SOME african-americans we are all card-carrying KKK members with deep resentment for losing our slaves (in the south i mean of course ;), and to some whites, it really is like that......... This is laziness in mind, and body. These are the people who EXPECT the gov't to support them and make their way. Those who feel they are owed something. I know it has to be obvious to all else if they examine it closely.

The rest of us, Black, White, Yellow, Red, whatever color one might so label us, have stepped up, and moved beyond the mistakes people in the past made. We have chosen to do for our OWN selves, the goals and achievements we desire. And yet i cannot help but feel we are taking a HUGE step backwards into this mentality again. Others have pointed out, "what message does this teach our society?" The answer is simple.... why work, that involves effort.... if i can sit on my butt and get paid for it why not??.....
So lets put the Civil War behind us. We lost....They won, and just like this election, we lost....they won ....and we are dealing with the consequences of BIG GOV'T. But Jdubya, other than the slave industry remark, you seem to have your head on pretty tight for a yankee XD, hehehe

Lets switch subject back to the "meat" of the topic:
Now this brings me to another point, or a flaw rather in Mr. Obama's "plan". The jobs he claims (this week in press conference, week of 2/8/09) his package will deliver.... "fixing roadways, bridges and schools"..... ummm, ok, for those of us with construction background, SOME of that MIGHT apply. I seriously doubt, that "John the accountant Doe" who lost his job in this economy, will have a CLUE as to how to fix a bridge. I have construction background of over 20years, and have yet to have EVER worked on a bridge. That is a state or county level gov't task. Those highway dept. men have training in that field not only for their own safety, but for constructing something that directly affects the safety of everyone who crosses that bridge.

Yes this is nitpicking, but if he is going to use those type of jobs as examples (he could have said ANYTHING but those) then I have trouble accepting that as a viable solution to the millions out of work at the moment. And in all fairness, he mentioned doing medical transcription data entry..... even i can do this. That is a viable option, but i cannot honestly believe there is enough of that for me, and all else to do, sustained. It would be temporary job creation at best. Even what isn't laden/labelled with pork, stinks of fictionary statements.

Joe patriot| 2.12.09 @ 4:15PM

Like it or not, this country is nearing the brink of a change...a revolution. Our constitution was formed as the ground rules for the shaping of this country.
I dont care how you vote(ed). If you want to justify the deformation of our constitution, You are an enemy of this great nation and an enemy of mine.
And there are plenty of Americans who feel the same way I do, who aren't afraid to defend what we know is right, no matter the cost.
THAT is the American Way!

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