GAZA CITY, Gaza (AP) -- Residents of a Gaza neighborhood are
confirming Israel's claim that Hamas militants had opened fire
from the cover of a U.N. school where hundreds of Palestinians
had sought refuge.
Israeli forces fired back with mortars, and hospital officials
says three dozen Palestinians were killed.
Two residents say a group of militants had fired their mortars
from a street near the school, then fled into a crowd of people
in the streets. The Israeli army says two of the dead were
militants. It accuses Gaza's Hamas rulers of "cynically" using
civilians as human shields.
And here's a video from 2007
of Hamas members firing rockets from the same location. Nobody
who is being intellectually honest can dispute the fact that
Hamas uses civilians as human shields to make Israel hesitate,
or, alternatively, to gain a propaganda victory when civilians
are killed. That forces Israel to make a choice. Either Israelis
target Hamas militants -- with the unfortunate consequences that
civilians may be killed -- or they never fire if civilians are in
the area, which would send a signal to terrorists that as long as
they hide among women and children they can fire their rockets
with impunity.
As I've mentioned before, this is also another reason for the
disproportionate death tolls. Israelis go to
great lengths to protect their own civilians, while Hamas
makes the strategic decision to place its own civilians in harm's
way.
Palestinians, love being Martyrs, make them all martyrs.
Marc Jeric| 1.7.09 @ 1:09PM
We used to have the winning rules of engagement - now we are
burdened by the losing ones. In the waning months of WW2 an
American unit of some 20 infantry, one tank, led by a lieutenant
was approaching a beautifully preserved medieval towm of
Ammerschwier in Alsace. Its mayor came out with a white flag,
assuring the Americans that there was no resistance in the town -
thus hoping to save it from damage. So the Americans march in -
when suddenly a hidden sniper killed the lieutenant. The tank and
the infantry retreated and called for air support. The bombers
came in within minutes and blasted the town to smithereens. No
other German town resorted to such means.
After the war the American taxpayer paid for a complete
restauration of that town - including original construction
material and methods; but those rules of engagement won the war!
Interested Conservative| 1.7.09 @ 1:44PM
One quibble with Phil Kleins commentary - it doesn't seem that
the "terrorists" (quoted only since their are numerous synonyms
which come to mind) "hide among women and children". Rather, it's
built into their order of battle.
It's debatable if we need go to the ROE's which Mr. Jeric
recalls, but UN local officials' actions and commentary on IDF
combat moves are so biased that they mislead the debate and
disqualify themselves from useful commentary, as in so much of
their activity around the world.
John| 1.7.09 @ 2:06PM
It's all those dirty Arabs' fault. Israel is #1 in my book. Even
in front of America.
Israel #1
America #2
G| 1.7.09 @ 6:01PM
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rob| 1.7.09 @ 12:51PM
Palestinians, love being Martyrs, make them all martyrs.
Marc Jeric| 1.7.09 @ 1:09PM
We used to have the winning rules of engagement - now we are burdened by the losing ones. In the waning months of WW2 an American unit of some 20 infantry, one tank, led by a lieutenant was approaching a beautifully preserved medieval towm of Ammerschwier in Alsace. Its mayor came out with a white flag, assuring the Americans that there was no resistance in the town - thus hoping to save it from damage. So the Americans march in - when suddenly a hidden sniper killed the lieutenant. The tank and the infantry retreated and called for air support. The bombers came in within minutes and blasted the town to smithereens. No other German town resorted to such means.
After the war the American taxpayer paid for a complete restauration of that town - including original construction material and methods; but those rules of engagement won the war!
Interested Conservative| 1.7.09 @ 1:44PM
One quibble with Phil Kleins commentary - it doesn't seem that the "terrorists" (quoted only since their are numerous synonyms which come to mind) "hide among women and children". Rather, it's built into their order of battle.
It's debatable if we need go to the ROE's which Mr. Jeric recalls, but UN local officials' actions and commentary on IDF combat moves are so biased that they mislead the debate and disqualify themselves from useful commentary, as in so much of their activity around the world.
John| 1.7.09 @ 2:06PM
It's all those dirty Arabs' fault. Israel is #1 in my book. Even in front of America.
Israel #1
America #2
G| 1.7.09 @ 6:01PM
FREE ONLINE TV, MOVIES, MUSIC, VIRTUAL WORLDS, GOOD GAMES, AND FREE COLLEGE EDUCATIONS @ INTERNETSURFSHACK.COM
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