That’s what Rush says about Chicago politics and Obama’s part in
the Blago scandal.
Here’s what he had to say on Obama’s comment (if you need a
refresher):
I had no contact with the governor what — or, uhhh — or his
office, uhhh, and so we — I — I — I was not aware of, uh,
what was happening. And as I said, uh, it’s a sad day for
Illinois.
And what his response means:
It’s Clinton all over again. This is proof of the assertion
that I (and I alone) made yesterday trying to help everybody
understand Obama is not what he says, folks. If you attack him
and parse him on what he says, you’re going to get nowhere. His
supporters support him because of how he says what he says.
Crusader| 12.11.08 @ 4:44PM
I was waiting for obamalamadingdong to come on TV and say,
"I did not talk about my senate seat with that Governor, Blagoyevich" and wag his finger at us.
Jeremiah| 12.11.08 @ 5:39PM
What does Rush know about Chicago politics?
What does Rush know about anything? All he does is watch cable news and comment on it.
He's not a reporter or an expert on any topic. He's not educated. He's clever and he has a good sense of humor. He's an excellent performer and a smart satirist. But that's all. He's entertainment.
He's not really in a position to pass moral judgment on anyone else.
He's a junkie who was last in the news when his Viagra was confiscated at customs on his way home from a world-renown destination for middle aged men seeking prostitutes.
He's been married three times. His first wife claims he never consummated the marriage.
He has been documented deliberately falsifying information on air.
Is Rush fun to listen to?
Sure. But he's in no position to call anyone else's city a cesspool.
ruth| 12.11.08 @ 5:59PM
Jeremiah, the Elite Media are totally corrupt (e.g. Chris 'tingle down my leg' Matthews), and did not vet Obama before the election. There is still so much we don't know about him. Don't blame Rush for their betrayal. It's not his fault that Obama is embroiled in a scandal even before his Inauguration.
ruth| 12.11.08 @ 6:02PM
Rush is a private citizen, Obama is President-elect. Rush's moral character and foibles don't impact my life--Obama's do.
Betterred| 12.11.08 @ 10:38PM
Jeremiah was in Bull smog
was a good friend of mine
never understood a single word he said.
all he could do was whine.
Joy to the world
anyone can see
Joy to rushies on the deep radio wavies
Rush is better than Jeremiahee
Leon| 12.11.08 @ 10:38PM
Anyone is qualified to call Chicago a cesspool.
Jeremiah| 12.11.08 @ 11:15PM
Leon -
Any dumb hayseed can insult the big city. It doesn't matter. You don't like Chicago. Who asked?
Jeremiah| 12.11.08 @ 11:18PM
Bettered --
You're showing no signs of poetic talent. But keep trying. It's a good effort.
Ruth --
Of course Obama's character matters more than Rush's. He's the president.
I was defending Chicago and Chicagoans against Limbaugh's smears.
As a satirist, Limbaugh's job is to poke at politicians. I don't mind that.
I still don't think he has any call to insult a whole town or its "politics."
Alan Brooks| 12.11.08 @ 11:21PM
Jeremiah & Bob's posts are good, but why do they want to be at Amspec? they arent making points that havent been raised already.
Rush's private life is that of a nun compared to Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski-- and why should a conservative care if Rush didnt have sex with his first wife? its ABSURD to think we ought to care about that. he had sex with his other wives, if sex is so very crucial to marriage in your opinion.
ruth| 12.11.08 @ 11:42PM
I agree, Alan, Jeremiah's and Bob's posts are cogent and thoughtful (though you know how I feel about Bob's remarks toward Palin). But why do you post here, Jeremiah? Isn't it a little painful to get shellacked by us meanie Conservatives every day? I wouldn't post at DU or Huff/Post, the obscenities would burn my ears. At least our language isn't bad. I think Rush has a point about the corruption in Chicago, it should be satirized. Besides, I live in California, and everybody makes fun of us, including Rush. I think Chicagoans can take it--they look pretty tough to me.
Robert| 12.11.08 @ 11:51PM
I'm surprised that Jeremiah doesn't realize Chicago is noted for dirty politics just as Seattle is noted for rain and Buffalo for snow. It's just always been that way, at least all my life and I'm on Medicare.
Alan Brooks| 12.12.08 @ 12:10AM
Palin is too good to be president.
It's a bad world, that's why its a man's world; or vice versa...
ruth| 12.12.08 @ 1:13AM
Come on, Alan, we want to be in on the fun, too! We fight wars now--I think we can handle political wars at home as well.
ruth| 12.12.08 @ 1:19AM
Jeremiah, you from Chicago? Doesn't surprise me if you are--you sound like a nice mid-westerner. Both of my parents grew up on Ohio farms--later escaped to California. When I meet people from the mid-west, I always get along famously with them. Don't take things personally, okay?
Michael| 12.12.08 @ 9:02AM
Jeremiah, you are right on the money about Rush Limbaugh.
Alan, your observtion about Sarah Palin reminded me of a comment by former Nebraska Senator Roman Hruska during the Carswell nomination hearings: "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos." This may have been a reaction to the follies of "the best and the brightest" during the Kennedy and Johnson years, but it is an enduring sentiment in the among too many Republicans and conservatives which explains, in part, the election of George W. Bush, the candidacy of Sarah Palin and the elevation of Joe the Plumber as someone whose opinions are worthy of being seriously entertained. These three epitomize mediocrity if they rise even to that level. I have long believed that the Republican and conservative elites have understood and exploited the anti-intellectualism of a significant percentage of people who constitute the Republican base.
Ruth, you are right. The language is much more temperate here than it is at many of the left wing propaganda sites
Jeremiah| 12.12.08 @ 9:32AM
You ask why I come to Am Spec.
1. I like some of the articles.
2. I like some of the threads, and some of the posts I read on the threads.
3. Like many tax and spend socialist liberals, I am genuinely interested in what people who are unlike me think.
4. As near as I can tell, most "liberals" who post here are deranged baiters. They post to get you people angry as hornets. I do not.
Usually my posts criticize attitudes towards the press and journalists among conservatives, which I find dangerous for the country (and in the end very bad for Republicans) and more generally the distrust and resentment conservatives have for American institutions generally. By "institutions" I'm taking about the big cultural institutions like journalism, science, education, the judiciary -- really any institution whose task is based on Enlightenment values.
Social conservatism is now what it's always been: a critique of modernity and a critique of markets.
The contradiction tells the story: the party of markets and modernity has successfully coopted the party that would critique it on behalf of the average man in the street.
I like reading the ideas of people caught up in these endless coils and having my two cents heard.
Leon| 12.12.08 @ 11:35AM
Jeremiah:
I'd be a lot more intellectually challenged if I defended Chicago.
I doubt that even Frost would these days.
Obamacropolis dotcom| 12.12.08 @ 1:36PM
Washington: "I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man."
Kennedy: "Ask not what your country can do for you..."
H.W. Bush: America is never wholly herself unless she is engaged in high moral principle.
Reagan: "Mr. Gorbechov, tear down this wall"
Eisenhower: "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
Obama: "And as I said, uh"
Joe| 12.12.08 @ 2:36PM
Am I the only person who thinks Blago is the caricature-turned-live version of MAD magazine mascot, Alfred E. Neuman??
ruth| 12.12.08 @ 2:43PM
Michael, you cite the mediocrity of the Republican party--like we have a monopoly on that! Have you seen some of the interviews of ACORN workers? They barely spoke English, and it's their first language. What about Zogby's interview of Democrats who had just voted for Obama? I bet the IQ of many of them was under 100. So, please, stop your hectoring about the stupidity of the Right, the outright ignorance and idiocy of your average Democrat is staggering.
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