Gasp! 'Joe the Plumber'
told Glenn Beck he was 'appalled' at some of the things he
heard come out of McCain's mouth while the two travelled together
for a short period during the campaign. Specifically, 'Joe'
was unhappy about McCain's opinion on the bailout, which
shouldn't exactly have been news to him. I mean, the
Maverick ran as a Republican, but he wasn't exactly a
card-carrying conservative.
He did, however, think Sarah Palin was 'the real deal.' Whew.
Aren't you relieved?
I guess if anyone can smell out the sometimes-appalling opinions
of a politican it's a plumber, but then, 'Joe' wasn't appalled at
the offer to sign a
deal with a small publishing company in Texas (which he did).
It's America, anyone can have opinions. I'm the first to admit I
liked the way 'Joe' was able to dissect some of Obama's ideas in
a way the McCain camp had failed to by that point in the
race. ('Redistribute the wealth' has never been heard so
many times in a span of a few days.) And sure, he can be
appalled at some of McCain's ideas, but it seems disingenuous for
'Joe' to go from just bein' a simple plumber looking to expand
his company, to a knowledgable source on the bailout wondering
why one of the more liberal GOP Presidential candidates in recent
years wasn't more conservative, to signing a book deal to write
"Joe the Plumber: Fighting for the American Dream."
You have to remember that Joe was touted as an ordinary American.
If this is true, then his opinion would seem to carry an
inordinate amount of weight as it would reflect the opinion of
the bulk of Americans. Besides, he got a book deal and he will
probable sell more than Nancy Pelosi did.
Mary| 12.10.08 @ 5:44PM
I like Joe. He seems to be a genuinely good guy.
I also understand the desire to want to be able to let loose with
what you think of McCain's handling of the campaign, now that
it's over.
But Joe probably would have been better served taking a cue from
Governor Palin. Her loyalty to the "maverick" and his marvelous
maverickness is classy and smart. I also happen to think it's
genuine and not politic.
It didn't help Joe that he wasn't paid up on his taxes. It was
important to be unassailable on this issue, given the salience of
both his question and Obama's response.
I'm not sure if owing back taxes is public info or not, and
conceding that those who rifled through his files should probably
be fired if it isn't, it still blemished his "solid, play by the
rules, why do you want to punish me?" image.
I'm glad he's going to make some money for himself and his
family.
He admitted that he and his mom and dad had been on welfare for a
while, and said he appreciated the hand up. It was open and
honest, and I admired how he spoke on the subject.
I don't ever want to hear the word maverick or the phrase 'joe
six-pack' again. They're likely to become my Niagara Falls
moment...
We're not morons, you know? Why do they have to treat us like we
are?
If you gave a lot of us one year of intense study time with very
sharp, apolitical, Country loving advisors -if there is such a
thing- and provided for our meals, housing, etc., and dressed us
up real purdy-like, I bet a lot of us could have done a better
job than McCain did in his debates with Obama.
This is my last ragging on the Senator and Great Patriot from
Arizona: nothing worse that being a bloviator -especially in the
cheap com-box seat- who repeats the same mantra over and over
again.
Still, and dropping a g in solidarity: I'm just sayin'.
ruth| 12.10.08 @ 5:46PM
I've read that Joe couldn't work as a plumber any longer because
of the local unions. If that's the case, I hope book sales help
him earn income. I think he was treated terribly during the
campaign. His privacy was violated in the worst way by the press
and Ohio government officials. Is our country such that we can't
ask a simple question of a Presidential nominee?
Ran| 12.10.08 @ 6:20PM
Good for Sam 'Joe the Plumber' Wurzelbacher. [The only man in the
race with whom I identified... wasn't on a ticket.]
Let's not be disingenuous: Joe wasn't asked about the bailouts in
the role of a specialist in economics. He's simply a
gent trying to make sense of Washington's failures. Despite Joe's
lack of Rhodes credentials, he's obviously one Hell of a lot more
informed about some economic issues than Sen. Chuckie Schumer or
our august President Elect-to-be.
ECM| 12.10.08 @ 7:52PM
This post seems a bit too Tim Egan-esque for my tastes--why
behoove the man for making a few bucks (especially) after he was
dragged through the mud for daring to ask a simple question?
This whole post smells like sour grapes more than a legitimate
gripe/comment.
stuart| 12.10.08 @ 10:03PM
I respect the guy's moxie, his insight, and his plainspokenness-
and that he came forward at a time when McCain was staggering
from one half-developed point against Obama to another. (McCain
didn't even get a TKO against Bill Ayers)But a book deal? What
exactly can he tell us in a book that he didn't in on-air
appearances or in newspaper interviews? What's going to be the
title? The Audacity of Tools?
trurl| 12.10.08 @ 11:29PM
You can bet I'd jump at the chance if it were me. It's a free
market, if they think there are people out there ready to buy the
book more power to him.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 9:11AM
"Joe the Plumber" isn't just a plumber anymore, and OBVIOUSLY not
of his own choosing at the start. "Joe the Plumber" is a symbol
created by a combination of forces, Left and Right, positive and
negative, and like a good entrepreneur is taking advantage of a
chance to feed his kid after his job was taken by liberal gov't
employeees and the press. HOW IS A GUY SUDDENLY SOUGHT OUT FOR
"COMMON MAN" OPINIONS, that fortunately lean Right, BEING
"DISINGENUOUS"?!
Here's an idea, Russell, try not to be a snooty Noonan, or
Parker, and go find a Lefty to slam. Joe did not choose
celebrity, it chose him. It is good that he thinks Juan Amnesty
McVain was a lousy RINO. I don't really get the point of the
article here... You think Joe should have told Juan to go jump in
a lake? You think Joe the single father shouldn't trade on his
celebrity and try to advance conservative ideals at the same
time? Or are you just being a typical female who doesn't really
know what she thinks and is running purely on the emotional
fluctuation from one minute to the next? Since Joe decided to
write a book maybe he should start leaning Left, since so-called
*conservatives* like you are going to call him names and they
will give him more celebrity in the MSM?
WendyG| 12.11.08 @ 9:21AM
I think Joe is an ungrateful wretch. Seems Sarah Palin is the
only one with the class to appreciate the opportunity McCain gave
her, and to treat him with the respect he deserves. I do not
begrudge Joe anything he gains from his celebrity, but I do wish
he had not attacked McCain publically. It's just wrong.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 10:01AM
Juan Amnesty McVain supports socialism in the form of bailouts,
supported L.O.S.T., Amnesty(McVain-Kennedy Comprehensive
Immigration Reform), McVain-Feingold(Destruction of the First
Amendment), McVain-Leiberman(Mother Gaia worship), took money
from George Soros and his liberal buddies for the Reform
Institute, led the Gang of Fourteen to limit Bush's appointment
of conservative judges(successfully), enthusiastically supports
embryonic stem cell research(use of human beings for the
experiments of mad scientists), refused to support a Protection
of Marriage Amendment(protecting the marital institution from the
oxymoronic homosexual "marriage"). Juan supported the DREAM Act.
Juan regularly shouts down, with obscenities, members of his own
party that disagree with him, and spends most of his time in the
last ten years(over which time his conservative score is in the
sixties)vote with commie-lib Dems and against his own party. He
believes in the myth of man-made global warming while the earth
is steadily cooling. Juan Amnesty McVain is a stench in the
nostrils of all TRUE CONSERVATIVES, and I applaud, and support,
ALL who call him the SCOUNDREL that he has become for raw power
over the American people.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 10:03AM
I hope that all who stab Juan Amnesty McVain the backstabber
twist the knife, and that realizes how the rest of us feel for a
change!
james23| 12.11.08 @ 11:17AM
gee, sticking it to joe for signing a book deal seems a bit
ungracious. McCain ought to buy the first 1,000 copies, since it
was after all ol Joe who managed to pound a couple of 'clues'
about the economy into Mac's fat skull.
Thomas| 12.10.08 @ 5:31PM
You have to remember that Joe was touted as an ordinary American. If this is true, then his opinion would seem to carry an inordinate amount of weight as it would reflect the opinion of the bulk of Americans. Besides, he got a book deal and he will probable sell more than Nancy Pelosi did.
Mary| 12.10.08 @ 5:44PM
I like Joe. He seems to be a genuinely good guy.
I also understand the desire to want to be able to let loose with what you think of McCain's handling of the campaign, now that it's over.
But Joe probably would have been better served taking a cue from Governor Palin. Her loyalty to the "maverick" and his marvelous maverickness is classy and smart. I also happen to think it's genuine and not politic.
It didn't help Joe that he wasn't paid up on his taxes. It was important to be unassailable on this issue, given the salience of both his question and Obama's response.
I'm not sure if owing back taxes is public info or not, and conceding that those who rifled through his files should probably be fired if it isn't, it still blemished his "solid, play by the rules, why do you want to punish me?" image.
I'm glad he's going to make some money for himself and his family.
He admitted that he and his mom and dad had been on welfare for a while, and said he appreciated the hand up. It was open and honest, and I admired how he spoke on the subject.
I don't ever want to hear the word maverick or the phrase 'joe six-pack' again. They're likely to become my Niagara Falls moment...
We're not morons, you know? Why do they have to treat us like we are?
If you gave a lot of us one year of intense study time with very sharp, apolitical, Country loving advisors -if there is such a thing- and provided for our meals, housing, etc., and dressed us up real purdy-like, I bet a lot of us could have done a better job than McCain did in his debates with Obama.
This is my last ragging on the Senator and Great Patriot from Arizona: nothing worse that being a bloviator -especially in the cheap com-box seat- who repeats the same mantra over and over again.
Still, and dropping a g in solidarity: I'm just sayin'.
ruth| 12.10.08 @ 5:46PM
I've read that Joe couldn't work as a plumber any longer because of the local unions. If that's the case, I hope book sales help him earn income. I think he was treated terribly during the campaign. His privacy was violated in the worst way by the press and Ohio government officials. Is our country such that we can't ask a simple question of a Presidential nominee?
Ran| 12.10.08 @ 6:20PM
Good for Sam 'Joe the Plumber' Wurzelbacher. [The only man in the race with whom I identified... wasn't on a ticket.]
Let's not be disingenuous: Joe wasn't asked about the bailouts in the role of a specialist in economics. He's simply a gent trying to make sense of Washington's failures. Despite Joe's lack of Rhodes credentials, he's obviously one Hell of a lot more informed about some economic issues than Sen. Chuckie Schumer or our august President Elect-to-be.
ECM| 12.10.08 @ 7:52PM
This post seems a bit too Tim Egan-esque for my tastes--why behoove the man for making a few bucks (especially) after he was dragged through the mud for daring to ask a simple question?
This whole post smells like sour grapes more than a legitimate gripe/comment.
stuart| 12.10.08 @ 10:03PM
I respect the guy's moxie, his insight, and his plainspokenness- and that he came forward at a time when McCain was staggering from one half-developed point against Obama to another. (McCain didn't even get a TKO against Bill Ayers)But a book deal? What exactly can he tell us in a book that he didn't in on-air appearances or in newspaper interviews? What's going to be the title? The Audacity of Tools?
trurl| 12.10.08 @ 11:29PM
You can bet I'd jump at the chance if it were me. It's a free market, if they think there are people out there ready to buy the book more power to him.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 9:11AM
"Joe the Plumber" isn't just a plumber anymore, and OBVIOUSLY not of his own choosing at the start. "Joe the Plumber" is a symbol created by a combination of forces, Left and Right, positive and negative, and like a good entrepreneur is taking advantage of a chance to feed his kid after his job was taken by liberal gov't employeees and the press. HOW IS A GUY SUDDENLY SOUGHT OUT FOR "COMMON MAN" OPINIONS, that fortunately lean Right, BEING "DISINGENUOUS"?!
Here's an idea, Russell, try not to be a snooty Noonan, or Parker, and go find a Lefty to slam. Joe did not choose celebrity, it chose him. It is good that he thinks Juan Amnesty McVain was a lousy RINO. I don't really get the point of the article here... You think Joe should have told Juan to go jump in a lake? You think Joe the single father shouldn't trade on his celebrity and try to advance conservative ideals at the same time? Or are you just being a typical female who doesn't really know what she thinks and is running purely on the emotional fluctuation from one minute to the next? Since Joe decided to write a book maybe he should start leaning Left, since so-called *conservatives* like you are going to call him names and they will give him more celebrity in the MSM?
WendyG| 12.11.08 @ 9:21AM
I think Joe is an ungrateful wretch. Seems Sarah Palin is the only one with the class to appreciate the opportunity McCain gave her, and to treat him with the respect he deserves. I do not begrudge Joe anything he gains from his celebrity, but I do wish he had not attacked McCain publically. It's just wrong.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 10:01AM
Juan Amnesty McVain supports socialism in the form of bailouts, supported L.O.S.T., Amnesty(McVain-Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform), McVain-Feingold(Destruction of the First Amendment), McVain-Leiberman(Mother Gaia worship), took money from George Soros and his liberal buddies for the Reform Institute, led the Gang of Fourteen to limit Bush's appointment of conservative judges(successfully), enthusiastically supports embryonic stem cell research(use of human beings for the experiments of mad scientists), refused to support a Protection of Marriage Amendment(protecting the marital institution from the oxymoronic homosexual "marriage"). Juan supported the DREAM Act. Juan regularly shouts down, with obscenities, members of his own party that disagree with him, and spends most of his time in the last ten years(over which time his conservative score is in the sixties)vote with commie-lib Dems and against his own party. He believes in the myth of man-made global warming while the earth is steadily cooling. Juan Amnesty McVain is a stench in the nostrils of all TRUE CONSERVATIVES, and I applaud, and support, ALL who call him the SCOUNDREL that he has become for raw power over the American people.
J David| 12.11.08 @ 10:03AM
I hope that all who stab Juan Amnesty McVain the backstabber twist the knife, and that realizes how the rest of us feel for a change!
james23| 12.11.08 @ 11:17AM
gee, sticking it to joe for signing a book deal seems a bit ungracious. McCain ought to buy the first 1,000 copies, since it was after all ol Joe who managed to pound a couple of 'clues' about the economy into Mac's fat skull.
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