As I write,
this report hasn't been confirmed yet but if Hillary Clinton
is going to be Barack Obama's secretary of state, doesn't that
discredit a major argument in favor of the change agent's
presidential candidacy? During the primaries, and to a lesser
extent during the general election, Obama argued that his lack of
foreign-policy experience didn't matter because he showed better
judgment on these issues than the foreign-policy establishment of
both parties. The main evidence he showed superior judgment was
his early opposition to the Iraq war. In fact, if Obama had not
opposed the war from the beginning he would have been much less
likely to win the Democratic nomination.
It was the equivalent of Ross Perot's rejoinder that he didn't
have any experience running up a $4 trillion national debt.
Barack Obama didn't have experience leading or voting the country
into a $1 trillion war. Obviously, this line of argument wasn't
persuasive to Joe Lieberman but it was in line with most
rank-and-file Democrats' thinking -- and that of many
independents as well.
So who does Obama turn to when he starts hiring people for major
positions in his administration? Joe Biden for vice president,
even though Biden voted to authorize the Iraq war. Rahm Emanuel
for White House chief of staff, even though Emanuel supported the
war and says he
would have voted for it even if he knew there were no weapons
of mass destruction. And now Hillary Clinton for secretary of
state, even though she famously voted for the Iraq war.
Obama now seems to owe Biden and especially Clinton an apology,
given that he used their war votes and his early antiwar speech
against them to great effect. If Hillary had voted against the
Iraq war, it is difficult to see how Obama could have beaten her
in the Democratic primaries without taking stands that would have
doomed him in the general election. In fact, it's hard to see how
he would have beaten her at all.
Again, if this report is confirmed, it will be interesting to see
how antiwar activists react to this. Are they antiwar or just
anti-Republican?
They're anti-Republican before they're anti-war. And, since our
Military has done a tremendous job in circumventing the "we can't
lose this militarily or win it militarily" argument/truth, they
have everything to gain by not folding at this point, reducing
the success of the surge to a necessity in a unnecessary war, and
reaping the geo-political reward.
My relatives song of praise for the USA is that she liberated but
never occupied.
During the UN debate leading up to the War, the Polish delegate
mused about Poland's past, and said that the Poles used to
aphoristically advance the argument that the way to liberation
was through attacking the US and forcing an occupation.
I think, or perhaps more truthfully hope, that Iraq is a great
success, and that she inspires those around her, and that
President Bush will be viewed by history as the decent, and
perhaps even noble, man that I think he is.
Donulvi Dolam| 11.19.08 @ 10:29AM
Take note that the US army in Iraq has just been allowed to stay
another 3 years, the truth is that the Armies in Iraq and
Afghanistan are mearly holding ground until further developments
of the Iranian issue; once that's resolved Pakistan might need to
remodel its borders with the Taliban and Iraq and Afghanistan
will be left to their own devices albeit with IMF loans.
I would hasten to say these troubles will not end for quite
sometime yet.
Stopwar| 11.19.08 @ 2:01PM
Obama was the only hope for peace among the Presidential
Canidates. The deaths of over a million people, U.S. being
directly or indirectly responsible, may not move Obama and more
invasions will come, time will tell.
you're dumb| 11.19.08 @ 5:00PM
stu.b.con | 11.18.08 @ 6:42AM
How about "anti-American"?
^^^ Very original. Do people like you even pay attention to or
listen to democratic speeches or find out what their policies are
or what? Do you just automatically assume they're a commie
because they're a democrat or left-wing?
Brantley| 11.23.08 @ 7:11PM
It appears that Obama has the best interests of Americans in mind
when he selects people for his administration that he differs
from politically. They can bring a different perspective to
problems than those that politically agree with one another 90%
of the time perhaps could not.
stu.b.con| 11.18.08 @ 7:42AM
How about "anti-American"?
Mary| 11.18.08 @ 9:00AM
They're anti-Republican before they're anti-war. And, since our Military has done a tremendous job in circumventing the "we can't lose this militarily or win it militarily" argument/truth, they have everything to gain by not folding at this point, reducing the success of the surge to a necessity in a unnecessary war, and reaping the geo-political reward.
My relatives song of praise for the USA is that she liberated but never occupied.
During the UN debate leading up to the War, the Polish delegate mused about Poland's past, and said that the Poles used to aphoristically advance the argument that the way to liberation was through attacking the US and forcing an occupation.
I think, or perhaps more truthfully hope, that Iraq is a great success, and that she inspires those around her, and that President Bush will be viewed by history as the decent, and perhaps even noble, man that I think he is.
Donulvi Dolam| 11.19.08 @ 10:29AM
Take note that the US army in Iraq has just been allowed to stay another 3 years, the truth is that the Armies in Iraq and Afghanistan are mearly holding ground until further developments of the Iranian issue; once that's resolved Pakistan might need to remodel its borders with the Taliban and Iraq and Afghanistan will be left to their own devices albeit with IMF loans.
I would hasten to say these troubles will not end for quite sometime yet.
Stopwar| 11.19.08 @ 2:01PM
Obama was the only hope for peace among the Presidential Canidates. The deaths of over a million people, U.S. being directly or indirectly responsible, may not move Obama and more invasions will come, time will tell.
you're dumb| 11.19.08 @ 5:00PM
stu.b.con | 11.18.08 @ 6:42AM
How about "anti-American"?
^^^ Very original. Do people like you even pay attention to or listen to democratic speeches or find out what their policies are or what? Do you just automatically assume they're a commie because they're a democrat or left-wing?
Brantley| 11.23.08 @ 7:11PM
It appears that Obama has the best interests of Americans in mind when he selects people for his administration that he differs from politically. They can bring a different perspective to problems than those that politically agree with one another 90% of the time perhaps could not.