Quin, I join
Phil in the camp of dire pessimism. The "massive shift" took
place between Sept. 16 and Oct. 2, the date Team Maverick
effectively conceded defeat by pulling out of Michigan. McCain's
endorsement of the bailout was the
decisive event of the campaign. After the first
debate (Sept. 26), the swing voters swung solidly to Obama, and
any apparent motion in the polls since then has been a
statistical mirage. The eight-point advantage Obama held in the
Sept. 29 Gallup tracking poll is likely to be his final
margin of victory -- call it 53%-45%.
Obama's popular vote margin will not be less than 5 points
(52%-47%) although I doubt it will be as large as 54-44.
Still, Obama will win a crushing Electoral
College majority -- including Florida, Virginia, Ohio,
Colorado and (obviously) Pennsylvania -- and easily
exceed Bush's record 2004
total of 62 million votes, becoming the first Democrat
to get a popular-vote majority since
Jimmy Carter in 1976. (And we all know what a triumph the
Carter administration proved to be.)
Agreed. The irony is that the immigration policies that
Republicans like McCain have championed are going to doom him in
Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and maybe even his own home state.
Hopefully, the "silver lining" in this election will the giant
splash of cold water about to hit Republican Party in the face,
but they don't call the Republican Party the Stupid Party for
nothing.
J David| 11.3.08 @ 2:48PM
Where's Mr Lawler's censorship when the commie-lib Dems get on
here making wild and ridiculous charges against Republican's.
Hmmm, I guess we can't call Obama "Hussein", although it IS his
name, but we have to put up being called a bunch of retarded
names by DKossacks that just go around flaming, and Axel-turfing
sites. It will be too late to be justly "impolite" by calling
Marxists by their names once they get elected and then SHUT THE
SITE DOWN.
Michael Roush| 11.3.08 @ 2:56PM
Robert Stacy,
Concerning your predictions, I say from your lips to God's ears.
I see the defection of Powell, Noonan, Duberstein, Buckley and
others not as their repudiation of conservative ideas or even the
GOP. I see their defection as a repudiation of the far right wing
of the Republican Party - the part of the party that is in fact
white, racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-immigrant etc. Time for
moderate Republicans to rise up and take back their party. Want
to know who resides in the far right leadership? Look at who
supports Sarah Palin and who writes passionately in her defense.
dan| 11.3.08 @ 3:31PM
Michael - yes, all those sexist far right wingnuts. You know -
the tens of thousands of them that go to Palin rallies wherever
she goes.
Maybe she's sexist too?
dan| 11.3.08 @ 3:32PM
Duberstein left because he didn't get the transition team job he
lobbied for on the McCain campaign. Opportunist - like many
(though not all) of the others who have backed Obama.
M. Tobias| 11.3.08 @ 3:47PM
Predicting elections is a lot like divination, the same things
are interpreted differently by different people. This election is
even worse as there is a tremendous emotional investment in one
of the candidates. All I can say is wait for it. The only polls
that matter are the ones people vote in on Nov. 4th.
Michael Roush| 11.3.08 @ 3:51PM
Dan,
I don't think Sarah is a sexist. I think she is a totally
uninformed, highly ambitious opportunist. She'll make a great
reprise to that other totally uninformed, highly ambitious
opportunist - W.
Spicy Joker| 11.3.08 @ 5:50PM
Michael Roush,
I keep hearing that this election is a referendum on Bush and
that McCain is no different from him. I guess you must think Bush
and McCain - the two biggest proponents of the amnesty bill - are
racist and anti-immigrant. Let's be honest: liberals label
conservatives racist, sexist, and so on to delegitmize them so
they don't have to debate them.
Spicy Joker| 11.3.08 @ 1:05PM
Agreed. The irony is that the immigration policies that Republicans like McCain have championed are going to doom him in Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and maybe even his own home state. Hopefully, the "silver lining" in this election will the giant splash of cold water about to hit Republican Party in the face, but they don't call the Republican Party the Stupid Party for nothing.
J David| 11.3.08 @ 2:48PM
Where's Mr Lawler's censorship when the commie-lib Dems get on here making wild and ridiculous charges against Republican's. Hmmm, I guess we can't call Obama "Hussein", although it IS his name, but we have to put up being called a bunch of retarded names by DKossacks that just go around flaming, and Axel-turfing sites. It will be too late to be justly "impolite" by calling Marxists by their names once they get elected and then SHUT THE SITE DOWN.
Michael Roush| 11.3.08 @ 2:56PM
Robert Stacy,
Concerning your predictions, I say from your lips to God's ears. I see the defection of Powell, Noonan, Duberstein, Buckley and others not as their repudiation of conservative ideas or even the GOP. I see their defection as a repudiation of the far right wing of the Republican Party - the part of the party that is in fact white, racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-immigrant etc. Time for moderate Republicans to rise up and take back their party. Want to know who resides in the far right leadership? Look at who supports Sarah Palin and who writes passionately in her defense.
dan| 11.3.08 @ 3:31PM
Michael - yes, all those sexist far right wingnuts. You know - the tens of thousands of them that go to Palin rallies wherever she goes.
Maybe she's sexist too?
dan| 11.3.08 @ 3:32PM
Duberstein left because he didn't get the transition team job he lobbied for on the McCain campaign. Opportunist - like many (though not all) of the others who have backed Obama.
M. Tobias| 11.3.08 @ 3:47PM
Predicting elections is a lot like divination, the same things are interpreted differently by different people. This election is even worse as there is a tremendous emotional investment in one of the candidates. All I can say is wait for it. The only polls that matter are the ones people vote in on Nov. 4th.
Michael Roush| 11.3.08 @ 3:51PM
Dan,
I don't think Sarah is a sexist. I think she is a totally uninformed, highly ambitious opportunist. She'll make a great reprise to that other totally uninformed, highly ambitious opportunist - W.
Spicy Joker| 11.3.08 @ 5:50PM
Michael Roush,
I keep hearing that this election is a referendum on Bush and that McCain is no different from him. I guess you must think Bush and McCain - the two biggest proponents of the amnesty bill - are racist and anti-immigrant. Let's be honest: liberals label conservatives racist, sexist, and so on to delegitmize them so they don't have to debate them.