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Nodice| 10.25.08 @ 8:04PM

False rape accusers needs to spend twenty-five years in prison. Lock up the Crystal Mangums and Ashley Todds!

Ashley| 10.25.08 @ 8:57PM

The bloggers and talk shows and politicians that hyped this story without checking their facts first are just as fraudulent as Ashley Todd.

Paul| 10.25.08 @ 9:14PM

C'mon, she's a "COLLEGE REPUBLICAN!" Isn't that listed in the PDR as a symptom of mental illness in and of itself?

Harry| 10.26.08 @ 1:03AM

Those without principles stand out like a sore thumbs to Ron Paul supporters. (We are all "grassroots" and are continuing the fight for liberty. campaignforliberty.com)

Doug| 10.26.08 @ 1:10AM

This is what's left of the republican base. This is it, folks. This is what 8 years of George W Bush has done to our Country. The true republican base is nothing but a front for racists & radical christian fundamentalists. Nuts & Whackjobs!

GOBAMA!

joe| 10.26.08 @ 1:42AM

The coming defeat of John McCain and the rout of the "mainstream" Republican's in the Congress will be the repudiation of false conservatism that have destroyed the party.

Charles David Sampson| 10.26.08 @ 9:22AM

"This is what's left of the republican base. This is it, folks. This is what 8 years of George W Bush has done to our Country. The true republican base is nothing but a front for racists & radical christian fundamentalists. Nuts & Whackjobs!"
... and may we add an "Ich leiber Amerika, seig heil!" to you comment Doug? I guess under the PC rules of tolerance it's okay to make hate-filled smearing remarks about one's religion as long as it is Christian.

You radical, fascist state-loving liberals sound more extreme than Adolf at his best. Just replace "radical christian fundamentalist" with "greedy, manipulating Jews" and you'd have a speech Hitler would have been proud to read at one of his youth rallys. Just remember one difference Doug, those radical, christian fundamentalist comprise the majority of hard working producers in this country as well as the majority of well-trained and fearless members of our military. So when you and your totalatarian tax-loving opressors bring in the cattle cars to haul away the radical christian fundamentalist to the new gas chambers you've set up for them, be ready for a fight.

James| 10.26.08 @ 1:16PM

Sorry, Sampson. It's been the right-wing that's been shockingly intolerant of Christians this year (see Barack Obama and his church), Muslims, Jews, Mitt Romney's church of Latter Day Saints, should I go on?

Brian| 10.26.08 @ 2:19PM

Sampson your comment that "those radical, christian fundamentalist comprise the majority of hard working producers in this country as well as the majority...of our military" is just plain WRONG! The first part of the statement is just blatant racism and both parts are factually wrong. Step out of your neo-Nazi house and go look at the real world. Christian fundamentalist don't make up a majority in the military and the productivity levels of christian fundamentalists are among the lowest in any measured group.

Amy| 10.26.08 @ 3:03PM

Faaaaack. This is what's left of the party of Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr?

The neocons and religious right have DESTROYED the party and have pushed all of us real conservatives out.

NOW can the GOP think about getting back to their roots? Small government? No foreign intervention? Fiscal responsibility?

PLEASE! I'M BEGGING HERE! AND I'M DOING IT IN ALL CAPS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! YOU'RE KILLING ME!

El Gordo| 10.26.08 @ 3:16PM

Charles David Sampson, that's a well-developed fantasy you have there. Last person I heard talk that way about America was Farrakhan. It's still a free country, still a good country, still a Christian country. The GOP are pushing fear and hate, and not God's love.

Charles David Sampson| 10.26.08 @ 3:22PM

James, please do go on. Anyone can call themselves a Christian, it is not like a doctor, you don’t need a license. Wright does not believe that all men are created in God’s image or that God is the God of all peoples. He believes that all whites, regardless of circumstance, are guilty of black oppression and if God loves them, then he is a racist as well. I am believe those thoughts could reasonably be interpreted as “intolerant” or at the very least, exclusive. They are certainly not Christian. And Barak Obama, after twenty years, now apparently agrees with me and the right, about Rev Wright’s intolerance, at least. And that is the main difference between the tactics of the left versus the right-we don’t call names and stereotype, we engage the other side with logical argument.
The specific facts about these liberal leaders are verified by their own comments and writings. Pointing out to the public the actual words of these leaders is not intolerance. The right may conclude that the remarks are treasonous and racist, but they don’t just call names and lump every black into one category like Doug does with Christians. You may be surprised to know that 50% of the radical fundamentalist Christian “nutjobs” Doug talks about in his in-depth account, actually voted for Clinton both times he ran in the nineties. And not all them voted for Bush in 2000 or 2004.
What I am saying is that the left, like Doug, has a knee jerk hatred for fundamentalist Christians not unlike the hatred Hitler had for Jews. Doug just calls names, like racist and nut-job, but can’t offer a specific case, or any proof, as to why fundamentalist Christians as a group are so inherently bad for the country- just like his mentor. I guess to Doug, Harriet Beecher Stowe, William Wilberforce, and John Brown were a bunch of Christian fundamentalist racists as well. Doug, and the rest of the Bush haters, objectify Christians and do not consider them as individuals and basically, from his comments, he regards them as inferiors in much the same way Hitler regarded the Jews.
The right wing commentators that I read and listen to are careful to qualify their comments. The anti-Muslim remarks they make are aimed at the minority Islamo-fascists who openly condemn the West and vow to destroy us. I don’t consider pointing out the actual words of someone as an act of intolerance.
I have never heard any right wing commentator bash the Mormons. I am not saying that it never happened, but it certainly hasn’t happened a lot, and no right wing commentator I listen to has ever indulged in Mormon bashing, or I would have turned him off.
I voted for Romney even though I don’t agree with the teachings of his faith. As far as I know, no Mormon has ever vowed to take over America or destroy the West or claim that God only loves Mormons. I, like other fundamentalist Christians, voted for Mitt Romney because he had a good track record both in business and government.

Charles David Sampson| 10.26.08 @ 3:24PM

Brian,
"those radical, christian fundamentalist comprise the majority of hard working producers in this country as well as the majority...of our military" is just plain WRONG!

Yes Brian I was wrong and I didn't mean to say it that way. What I meant was that a majority of christian fundamentalist are productive and members of the military. I am very sorry.

Charles David Sampson| 10.26.08 @ 3:27PM

Amy,

How do you define conservative? Pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action, pro-higher taxes, pro-open borders? Then why don't you join the Democrat party, if you aren't really one anyway.

star the wonder pup| 10.26.08 @ 3:33PM

Since when is this a "christian" country, ASSHOLE.

STAR THE WONDER PUP| 10.26.08 @ 3:35PM

Cgarkes-you need to check out Mormon doctrine. They are stone dominionists.

Charles David Sampson| 10.26.08 @ 3:39PM

El Gordo,
Charles David Sampson, that's a well-developed fantasy you have there. Last person I heard talk that way about America was Farrakhan. It's still a free country, still a good country, still a Christian country. The GOP are pushing fear and hate, and not God's love.

What does Farrakan have to do with anything I wrote?

I agree with you that it is still good, free, country. I never said otherwise.

I wrote about liberals like Doug, I didn't say anything about America. Are you capable of reading for meaning. I love this country and served it with honor for six years. I was talking about Doug and the rest of his knee jerk Christian haters.

You compare me with Farrakan, why? I am talking about the nonchalant manner in which people on your side of the isle spew hatred against Christians in this country and no one calls them on it. So I suppose Doug's comment is an example of God's love?

How is the GOP pushing fear and hate? By showing people what members of the Democratic Party have written and said themselves.

I am not pushing hate, I am just using the same tactic the left uses all the time when they compare Bush to Hitler. Just like a liberal, you dish out the name calling and the hate, but you can't take it. Try using reason and logic. It could change your life.

ruth| 10.26.08 @ 6:36PM

Sampson, I hear you and i understand who you are. You're just so worried (as I am) about our country. The left projects it's hatred onto us and they don't even see what they're doing. Thank God for the second amendment.

Emily| 10.26.08 @ 8:22PM

I hardly don't think MLK jr was a republican. Doy. And this girl from what I understand only claimed mental issues when her story started to unravel. If she did have an issue she would've mentioned it at the beginning to the police. This is the same type of crap Karl Rove did. Thankfully the police found out this story was a hoax quickly before it could've gotten out of hand.

Carol in St. Paul| 10.26.08 @ 8:42PM

Sampson: "How do you define conservative? Pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action, pro-higher taxes, pro-open borders? Then why don't you join the Democrat party, if you aren't really one anyway."

So in other words you think "liberals" are pro-abortion? NOPE. "Pro-choice". 'Pro-Affirmative Action". YUP. It means being "Pro-Equal Opportunity". "Pro-Higher Taxes". NOPE. "Pro-Balanced Budgets and against Corrupt Government Spending". "Pro-Open Borders"? NOPE. "Pro-Immigration Law Enforcement".

You got a problem with the above?

Ohruth| 10.26.08 @ 8:44PM

Ruth - the problem for right wing christians is that they think their extremist version of reality is normal. For the majority of us, this is not so. Most of us are not like the head of the southern baptist convention who just called birth control pills a form of murder.

this is NEW for the southern baptists. right wing religious groups in this nation have moved farther to the right over the last decade or so - so far to the right that no one identifies your pov with christianity anymore.

You all sound, online, like this girl who faked an attack, saying "Oh noes! The liberals! Now we'll call them socialists since liberals won't do as a smear anymore!"

Your own party just moved to socialize the banking system b/c it is bankrupt, thanks to deregulation (the bank owner I know said this would happen with the S&L;'s were deregulated under the repubs too...and he was right).

We are facing challenging economic times and labels don't do it for anyone now. We need to rebuild this nation after years of mismanagement by the republican "katrinas" like Norquist.

I know right wing christians don't generally like educated people, but maybe you should turn off the hate radio and listen to them sometime. PBS has the best educated viewers in the nation. Fox the worst - because they lie. PBS has informed specialists who are trying to help us look at our problems in order to solve them.

Partisan that you and your ilk offer right now are the path to destruction. The majority of Americans want to work to create a better nation. Too bad you're not one of them.

Ohruth| 10.26.08 @ 9:02PM

I've also wondered a lot lately how right wing christians reconcile Jesus' actions, throwing out the money-changers, the religious leaders making money off of people's fears and those who publicly made a spectacle of their religiosity out of the temple. Jesus said, those public figures were hypocrites doing these things for their own benefit, not the benefit of any god, and especially not any downtrodden souls, with your stances that align you with publicity-seeking "religious" leaders, predatory capitalist practices and hate for poor people. Jesus didn't hate poor people. He hated those who attacked the poor.

The apostles were so inspired by Jesus' example that they gave away everything they owned and ministered to the sick and the poor. Lepers were the equivalent of people with AIDS. What did Jesus do? He loved them. He didn't blame them for their illness and he certainly didn't tell any of his followers to claim they were any better.

Jesus aligned himself with the prostitutes and accepted them as they were. He never mentioned a word about being gay. The rationale right winger christians use to hate our gay brothers and sisters is from a book in the Bible that calls you a damned soul everytime you put on your cotton/poly blend shirt.

The actions and statements by right wing "christians" - I don't think you deserve the name, but I'll use it - display an incredible level of hatred for anyone who thinks differently. Jesus didn't bomb anyone who had a different view. He told his followers to let their lives serve as examples.

The religious right in this nation is a 24/7 advertisement for atheism, if you're what Jesus stood for.

Robert Annal| 10.26.08 @ 11:18PM

Hoax or not,I fell for it,maybe I'm just plain gullible.There have been a multitude of robberies at ATM machines all over the country by both black and white men.A person carveing the letter "B" onto their own face might do it backwards,thinking it would appear correctly to an onlooker.On the other hand,an excited,uneducated assailant might write it backwards.Whatever,this incident has probably had an effect on many voters.Not me because I don't vote.

IndependentTexanForever| 10.27.08 @ 1:34AM

ummm, Hi. Anyone hear about the REAL STORY of the woman attacked in NYC ?
verified by Manhattan District Attorney:
http://gothamist.com/2008/10/18/mccain_supporter_attacked_on_east_s.php

Ashley Todd is obviously a mental case.
AS ARE THE OBAMATRONS WHO DO ATTACK, INTIMIDATE, HARASS, VANDALIZE, HACK, SEND DEATH THREATS!
don't believe it? do a search for Tavis Smiley, Diane Watson, Shelia Jackson, and the various Puma Movement leaders, Texas caucuses, etc etc

MultiplePOV| 10.27.08 @ 2:23AM

Congratulations, Charles David Sampson! Without even passing "go," you've fulfilled Godwin's Law.

MultiplePOV| 10.27.08 @ 2:29AM

ruth | 10.26.08 @ 5:36PM
Sampson, I hear you and i understand who you are. You're just so worried (as I am) about our country. The left projects it's hatred onto us and they don't even see what they're doing. Thank God for the second amendment.
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Yeah, typical rightwinger. A call to violence. Guns. Such a what-would-Jesus-do reaction to not getting their way.

IndependentTexanForever| 10.27.08 @ 2:33AM

Blacks backing Clinton cite pressure to side with Obama
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/042108dnpolloyalty.3eb8a34.html?npc

Tavis Smiley received DEATH THREATS after criticizing NObama:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/16/black_commenter_criticizing_ob_1.html

and more discussion of pressure on blacks to support NObama:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902638.html

I"ve heard first hand accounts on talk radio of people being verbally harassed by black people when they wear McCain tshirts. I've read accounts of the vandalizism of cars bearing McCain or Hillary stickers....

Obama Vandal arrested:
http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=39354

Local news reports vandals in Alabama:
http://www.whnt.com/global/story.asp?s=8544531

i mean, the stories are endless and the usually don't get past the local news....
WHY?

because it's Racist if you speak out against NObama??? .......LOL!!!!!!! .......GET REAL .....GROW A PAIR .....GEE, I MUST HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION WHEN RATIONAL POLITICAL DISCOURSE AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION COMPLETELY EXCLUDING ANY DISCUSSION OF RACE OR ETHNICITY WAS ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY AS A RACIST ACT!!!!!!! ........LOL!!!!!!!!!

btw, MLK was indeed a Republican. Learn some history. :)

MultiplePOV| 10.27.08 @ 2:33AM

Emily | 10.26.08 @ 7:22PM
I hardly don't think MLK jr was a republican.
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Like Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Jr. *was* a Republican. Doesn't that show you how far that party has veered from its once moral roots? My father was a Republican *and* a social liberal. If he were alive, he'd be devastated to see his once Grand Old Party taken over by "low information voters," race-baiters, fear-mongers, cronyism, and corruption.

MultiplePOV| 10.27.08 @ 2:51AM

Dear Independant Texan:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-villa_park_signoct17,0,1501910.story

http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/3479

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-dorchen/obama-canvasser-punched-i_b_136003.html

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=307949

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR2008093002315.html

The stories are endless. I don't need to resort to shouting with all caps, however. I know this will all end soon--with Obama as president.

Remember what McCain said. You have nothing to fear. Let's just all get along.

P.S. This thread was about Ashley Todd's hoax that a Black Obama supporter scratched a B in her cheek--an obvious hoax briefly trumpeted by rightwing bloggers such as Drudge (but, to her everlasting credit, not Malkin). Ashley Todd *was* race baiting.

ruth| 10.27.08 @ 5:05AM

So many mindless, sock-puppet liberals and so little time. Why don't you all just crawl back under your rock where you belong? Losers.

ruth| 10.27.08 @ 5:08AM

Like I said before, "thank God for the 2nd amendment."

axel01| 10.27.08 @ 6:19AM

Ruth, that the all true conservative spirit: threaten with a gun if things doesn’t work for your side.

Hick

ruth| 10.27.08 @ 11:46AM

Come on now, axel, don't be paranoid. I am talking about dialogue--not violence. The 2nd amendment is for protection but you probably don't understand that. You sure have your undies in a twist. So funny.

Jake| 10.27.08 @ 3:38PM

Ashley was playing to the crowd with her race-bating stunt, and the crowd ate it up. Today's Republican Party is the Party of Fear.

They love anything that confirms their worst fears, particularly the meme that says the big black man goin' getcha!

I'm lovin' this. Thanks Ashley!

Ruth (other Ruth...)| 10.27.08 @ 3:39PM

Other Ruth, you're scaring me a bit here. I'm a Christian too, but my thought isn't "Thank God for the 2nd Amendment." What could the liberals do that you would possibly need to defend against with a gun?

My denomination has a pretty high regard for Jesus, what with his being God and all that. So we kinda take what he said pretty seriously, you know? Like the whole "Thou shalt not kill?" Yeah, we think that applies to pretty much everyone (including but not limited to fetuses). The 2nd Amendment is for protection, but not for Christians, who follow a higher law. When the early church started mixing religion and nationalism, things went downhill.

But then maybe your denomination is less interested in the Prince of Peace, and doesn't care about breaking his commandments. Though if you love him, it would kinda help to keep them, unless you don't believe he said that either. Dang your Bible is so much easier to follow without the possibility of sacrifice!

Anyway, please stop giving us Ruths a bad name.

ruth| 10.27.08 @ 4:44PM

Calm down there, other Ruth. I didn't make the connection between liberals' deeds and guns--you did. Don't put your words in my mouth. I believe both the first and second amendments are valuable, right? Go take your meds, you've missed a few doses.

INDEPENDENTTEXANFOREVER!!!!| 10.27.08 @ 7:23PM

MultiplePOV, who made you the official moderator of this blog, my friend? How on earth would know whether or not I'm "shouting" ???? and fyi, I live in NYC, baby, there's very little I'm afraid of... i'm certainly not AFRAID of B.O. and his brainwashed radical followers. They just sicken me.

dude, you're taking the internet thing a little too seriously... lol
take a deep breath
:)

friend of the family| 10.29.08 @ 10:50AM

O.K. Just to let you know ! She as been locked up until after the election. Question is why? Answer is because she was attacked.
The only way to end the story was for the police to lock her up and call her crazy!
And the truth is that the Goverment will not let her speak for herself.

The family is in great pain and fear.
BIG BROTHER IS IN CONTROL!

Find someone else to argue about!

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