I'm actually looking forward to the end of this election cycle,
so I can take a break from horse race stuff, but I wanted to take
a moment to respond to this
misguided Daniel Larison post, in which he dismisses the chances
of Sarah Palin capturing the GOP nomination in 2012 and suggests
that Mike Huckabee "could become the presumptive frontrunner." I
generally think it's way too early to count any candidate in or
out in 2012. The makeup of the GOP field will largely depend on
which issues are most salient four years from now, and how
beatable Obama is perceived to be (should he get elected). For
instance, should the economy stagnate for the next four years,
you can see a plausible Mitt Romney scenario. Instead of trying
to unrealistically present himself as a social conservative
crusader again, Romney could emphasize that he's a competent
manager who understands economics and can turn things around. I'm
sure he'll still be showing up at conservative events and loyally
raising money for Republican candidates, and in another four
years, there will be more distance from his policy conversions so
the flip-flopper label won't be quite as damaging.
I don't think you can rule Sarah Palin out, either. Larison is
right about her having high unfavorables among the broader
electorate, but she's still very popular among Republican voters
who will be voting in the primaries. She'll enjoy high name
recognition, will be able to raise tons of money and hire good
talent, and appeal to grassroots conservatives and Republican
women. She has the opportunity to get more accomplishments under
her belt in Alaska and, if she's serious about running, she could
have a Prince Hal
moment and decide to spend more time learning about national
and international issues. ("And like bright metal on a sullen
ground/my reformation, glittering o'er my fault/Shall show more
goodly and attract more eyes/Than that which hath no foil to set
it off.") Another thing to keep in mind is that during this
campaign, she's had to adapt to the idiosyncratic positions of
John McCain, so there's no way of knowing how she'd perform
running as her own woman.
As for Huckabee, let me dissect Larison:
It seems to me that Huckabee now starts to look much better to
the conservative elites who were ridiculing him as
Huckleberry just half a year ago; he becomes the
relatively safe governing choice who can also generate
tremendous grassroots enthusiasm.
Relatively safe? Huckabee is a complete loose cannon,
capable of saying outlandish things at any moment, like when,
while theoretically in the running to be McCain's VP, he made an
Obama assassination joke. He also still has an atrocious
record as governor that didn't stand up to much scrutiny and next
time around, he won't be able to operate under the radar for as
long as he did during this cycle.
Larison goes on:
Many of his former critics may come to recognize
the missed opportunity of running with Huckabee’s
pseudo-populism on economics this year, and going forward
he may be able to develop a policy agenda that is not
limited to praising the wonders of the Fair
Tax.
If McCain's performance during the last two months has taught us
anything, it should be that a Republican candidate cannot run as
an economic populist on one hand, and attack the Democrat as a
socialist on the other, without tying himself in knots.
More:
Not having been a critic of Palin, Huckabee will not have
alienated her supporters, and he will probably carefully
avoid doing so over the next few years in the same way that
he stayed on good terms with McCain voters. Provided
that he never, ever again tells the ridiculous story about
how foreign wars make it possible for children to have
schooldesks, and provided that he could get someone to give him
some money, he could become the presumptive
frontrunner.
Those are a lot of conditions. Unfortunately for Huckabee, people
were always saying he'd have a shot if he could raise money and
stop saying stupid stuff, but it never happened. There's no
reason to think 2012 will be different.
More:
Having spoken out against the bailout early on, he will be
well-positioned to satisfy libertarians and populists
alike. Given the deterioration of the McCain
campaign since it went to war with journalists, the value of
favorable free media coverage,
which Huckabee was able to attract so
effectively during the primaries, cannot be
underestimated.
First off, Huckabee will never, ever, be satisfactory to
libertarians given his staunch social conservatism that in the
1990s went as far as to call for the quarantining of AIDS
patients, and his tax and spending record in Arkansas. His
opposition to the bailout on populist grounds while he was a TV
commentator will mean absolutely nothing to libertarians four
years from now, weighed against the rest of his record. As for
the media, the only reason they liked Huckabee this time around
was that a) he was the lovable loser and b) they hated Mitt
Romney. Should Huckabee have a legitimate chance at anything, the
media will soon turn against him. Remember, it wasn't too long
ago that McCain referred to the media as his "base."
The biggest problem facing Huckabee, however, is that while he
was able to gain traction among evangelicals in a year when none
of the candidates really spoke to them, he never performed well
outside of that demographic. And next time around, he'll have
more competition for that group of voters. Palin, for instance,
would garner a lot of support among the group, as would Tim
Pawlenty. Pawlenty, in particular, would be tough for Huckabee,
because he also has a similar populist appeal, but comes across
as more plausible (if more boring). Also, Iowa is a border state
to Minnesota, so as a fellow Midwesterner, he'd be a threat in
the caucuses, where Huckabee made his name. Additionally, perhaps
Bobby Jindal would take a shot, or a Mark Sanford. In any event,
we'll have at least two years until we can begin to discuss this
stuff more seriously, so I'll stop now.
A lot of great names discussed here. Safe to assume the GOP
ticket will be led by someone who is not a member of Congress?
Derek| 10.23.08 @ 4:11PM
I'm currently supporting the McCain/Palin ticket, but if they
lose come 2012 I will definitely be on the Huckabee bandwagon. I
think the more the media underestimates Huckabee the better he
will do, so please by all means Mr. Klein continue to
underestimate the man.
mark m| 10.23.08 @ 4:22PM
I got a great idea...give Huckabee a national TV show for a few
years and let the public see (free of charge) his kindness,
charm, humor, and see he is a regular guy like the rest of us,
not a theocratic like the frightened, secular spinsters said he
was. There's no way anyone else could compete in 2012. He's got a
show?...NO WAY DUDE! AWESOME!!!
MK in Arizona| 10.23.08 @ 6:53PM
No way will Huckabee even be considered as a presidential nominee
in 4 years. Look at the difference between what he is doing now
and what Romney is doing now. Huckabee is regulated to being a
goofy talk show host while Mitt is out working for the Republican
party and sharing his knowledge of the economy. Romney will be
prime to take over as the one that will save the Republican party
and get our country back on track. Even though I was extremely
dissappointed that Romney was not our nominee (he would be
winning against Obama right now) maybe waiting until 2012 will be
Mitt's time when everyone is tired of Obama taking hard working
American's money and giving it to those who don't even contribute
any taxes. The next four years will be hard to stomach but with
the strong possibility of Romney as President in 2012 maybe I can
make it through!
mark m| 10.23.08 @ 7:29PM
To be "relegated" to a silly, little national TV talk show is
truly greatest feat of up-side-down thinking I have ever heard.
Whatever you do man, DO NOT give that reasoning to a
psychiatrist, you'll be committed.
George from Arkansas| 10.24.08 @ 9:49AM
While Mike Huckabee is certainly entertaining from time to time,
and he would likely run a decent campaign due to his good
communication skills, he would make a terrible president due to
his very limited economics, business, and science knowledge.
Given the complex problems faced by the country and the need to
make tough decisions, I don't think we can trust Mike Huckabee
for solutions. Mike is a great communicator, but he has very
limited education in law, business, and economics. He's trained
as a preacher. Mike was an ok governor of a small state. He was
best at feathering his own nest. If he had been the nominee, he
would have been crucified by the press for his many ethical
lapses. We need a President who is extremely smart - both book
smart and with common sense. While Huckabee has a tiny bit of
common sense, he has no formal education in economics, business,
science or law. He's also very stubborn about what he doesn't
understand. While I'm sure he's a wonderful story teller and
preacher, it would be nice to have someone who actually
understood the law and economics running the country. We don't
need someone like us to be President, we need the best and the
brightest to be our President. We need someone who's smart enough
to know when foreign leaders as well as Harry Reid and Nancy
Pelosi are feeding him a line of BS. Mike Huckabee is
unfortunately not the right person for the job.
David| 10.24.08 @ 3:47PM
Frankly, I think Romney will have the best chances due to his
endorsement of several Senate and Congressional Leaders running
in key political states. Governor Romeny appears to be building
upon his already significant political network for 2012. In
addition, he is also on multiple news networks offering a
political perspective on different issues and candidates.
Mike | 10.24.08 @ 11:06PM
So far off base regarding Huckabee that it's difficult to find a
place to start. This is one conservative, non-evangelical,
retired military veteran who believes Huckabee would have done
much better than McCain or Palin this year.
Ken C| 10.23.08 @ 12:28PM
A lot of great names discussed here. Safe to assume the GOP ticket will be led by someone who is not a member of Congress?
Derek| 10.23.08 @ 4:11PM
I'm currently supporting the McCain/Palin ticket, but if they lose come 2012 I will definitely be on the Huckabee bandwagon. I think the more the media underestimates Huckabee the better he will do, so please by all means Mr. Klein continue to underestimate the man.
mark m| 10.23.08 @ 4:22PM
I got a great idea...give Huckabee a national TV show for a few years and let the public see (free of charge) his kindness, charm, humor, and see he is a regular guy like the rest of us, not a theocratic like the frightened, secular spinsters said he was. There's no way anyone else could compete in 2012. He's got a show?...NO WAY DUDE! AWESOME!!!
MK in Arizona| 10.23.08 @ 6:53PM
No way will Huckabee even be considered as a presidential nominee in 4 years. Look at the difference between what he is doing now and what Romney is doing now. Huckabee is regulated to being a goofy talk show host while Mitt is out working for the Republican party and sharing his knowledge of the economy. Romney will be prime to take over as the one that will save the Republican party and get our country back on track. Even though I was extremely dissappointed that Romney was not our nominee (he would be winning against Obama right now) maybe waiting until 2012 will be Mitt's time when everyone is tired of Obama taking hard working American's money and giving it to those who don't even contribute any taxes. The next four years will be hard to stomach but with the strong possibility of Romney as President in 2012 maybe I can make it through!
mark m| 10.23.08 @ 7:29PM
To be "relegated" to a silly, little national TV talk show is truly greatest feat of up-side-down thinking I have ever heard. Whatever you do man, DO NOT give that reasoning to a psychiatrist, you'll be committed.
George from Arkansas| 10.24.08 @ 9:49AM
While Mike Huckabee is certainly entertaining from time to time, and he would likely run a decent campaign due to his good communication skills, he would make a terrible president due to his very limited economics, business, and science knowledge. Given the complex problems faced by the country and the need to make tough decisions, I don't think we can trust Mike Huckabee for solutions. Mike is a great communicator, but he has very limited education in law, business, and economics. He's trained as a preacher. Mike was an ok governor of a small state. He was best at feathering his own nest. If he had been the nominee, he would have been crucified by the press for his many ethical lapses. We need a President who is extremely smart - both book smart and with common sense. While Huckabee has a tiny bit of common sense, he has no formal education in economics, business, science or law. He's also very stubborn about what he doesn't understand. While I'm sure he's a wonderful story teller and preacher, it would be nice to have someone who actually understood the law and economics running the country. We don't need someone like us to be President, we need the best and the brightest to be our President. We need someone who's smart enough to know when foreign leaders as well as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are feeding him a line of BS. Mike Huckabee is unfortunately not the right person for the job.
David| 10.24.08 @ 3:47PM
Frankly, I think Romney will have the best chances due to his endorsement of several Senate and Congressional Leaders running in key political states. Governor Romeny appears to be building upon his already significant political network for 2012. In addition, he is also on multiple news networks offering a political perspective on different issues and candidates.
Mike | 10.24.08 @ 11:06PM
So far off base regarding Huckabee that it's difficult to find a place to start. This is one conservative, non-evangelical, retired military veteran who believes Huckabee would have done much better than McCain or Palin this year.
Matt| 10.26.08 @ 10:02PM
romney 2012.