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Fellas, I don't necessarily disagree that Gonzales is no big loss or that he deserves to go. "Poor reason" was the wrong way to put this scandal. I am just looking for a solid case that Gonzales deserves to go -- independent of his other shortcomings. The media and nutroots have uncritically presumed that he should go without really explaining why. If the justification is either lying to Congress or total incompetence in not knowing the facts, then I am satisfied.