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John: Excellent point about renditions, but I'm not sure it will increase them all that much. With the WaPo's revelations about the secret facilities these guys have been flown around to, there are fewer of them available to us, and fewer allies willing to take bad guys. As to waterboarding, there's a dirty little secret: it works. Former al-Q #3 Khalid Sheik Mohammed was a very hard case for the first days he was in captivity. He was, I've heard, waterboarded by experts. Since that time he's been giving up a lot of solid information.